Thursday, May 26, 2005

Lost Finale

-- SPOILERS --


First, the praise:

-- bonus carry-over from last week:"black rock" reveal. Whizza.
-- Subtle Rousseau clue that they were focusing on the wrong boy.
-- Statue reveal on Charlie
-- Michael's secret sin
-- *GURK* "Do not. Hit me. Again."
-- the realization that if the show now just became Michael, Jin, and Sawyer on Vengeance Road looking for the kid, I'd watch every episode twice. I don't care how gay that makes me. Twice.

But all in all, that ...

... that ...

.. was not what I was hoping for.


On one hand, shortly after I wrote this, I got a quick e-mail from one of the show creators saying "Hilarious! You will see this addressed soon!" So the whole "you six people clique" was amusing.

Again, this is all from loving the show. But to borrow from our Jargon Preservation Project, there was an awful lot of "up and back".

Huge chunks of flashback, with little or no new information -- the only bit being the revelation of "devoted Dad" Michael's secret sin ... no new info in Charlie's, Locke's, Hurley's (except the comic being his, but was that worth five minutes?*), and you could say maybe Jin gave you at least a variant on his info.

We already knew that Locke and Jack had different views of the island. They've had this almost exact same speech before, in a slightly different context. Although I have to say, Jack might have been a little more open to the whole "This island is hinky" speech after seeing the Giant Snatching Black Cloud of Doom. He's approaching a Second-season Scully Blindspot here.

If you didn't see the science teacher thing coming, well ... you don't watch a lot of TV.

The greatest moment was, of course, "We have to take your boy". My wife was freaking, and it was magnificent -- although I guessed it from the French Chick comment earlier when she said the Others were "coming for the boy." I was thinking -- "Now hoo-haw, THAT'S a GODDAM CLIFFHANGER!" Then I remembered that they needed to blow up the hatch. How do you beat THAT?

You don't.

You know they're going to open the hatch. There's no suspense. As a viewer, you know it's the season finale, you know they've been harping on trying to open the hatch for close to ten episodes, any suspense beats on whether they're going to open the hatch are wasted beats. So the payoff for the cliffhanger has to be, what'll we see IN the hatch?

A ladder? You mean, the hatch has some way of traversing within and without it? Oh sweet MOTHER OF GOD !! And it goes really far down? Not so far down as to be deeper than, say an ordinary parking garage's ventilation shaft , but DOWN? AAAAAGHHHH!

Feh. I didn't want to see everything. I didn't want to see the Control Room with the Brain-puter and the floating brains in jars full of diet ginger ale. I'm fully aware, those who-loved-it-and-think-we're-being-grumpy-pants, that you need to leave some mysteries for next season. You don't find Mulder's sister in Season One (on the other hand, you don't make mulder's sister an ascended spirit-girl, either. Fuckers.).

But I think that if all three hours of Exodus were compressed into one, I would've been lying on the floor in a puddle. I firmly believe the writers struggled valiantly against network-order bloat, but in the end were defeated.

This is a tricky moment for the show -- genre shows create rabid audiences, but once you lose them, they don't just go away -- they frikkin' turn.

I look forward to second season, but I hope they're working on the bible even as we speak.


*there is a theory that this was to show Hurley wasn't supposed to get on the plane -- he was the only one the numbers/island were trying to stop from coming. If so this flashback is fair game. But personally I wouldn't spend five mintues laying obtuse pipe in my cliffhanger finale.

42 comments:

caseyko74 said...

Again, I have to say, they should have had all this worked out. I am not saying every line of dialogue should be plotted out, but the overall plot should be known.

And the Jack vs Locke thin seems forced. Really, what the hell does Jack need more to convince him. He already spent an episode running around trying to find the ghost/corpse of his father. And as you said, they have had this speech before.

I am wary of the show at this point.

Oh, my other big problem with last night's finale. Locke talks about fate and the island bringing them there; but when Hurley runs up and starts saying the numbers are bad, he blows the hatch anyway. Seems to be someone so obsessed with the mysticism of the island might have stopped.

cyan said...

I could not agree more with you about the Finale. As a whole the show is excellent. The season finale sucked in regard to progress of the plot. I hope it doesn't go onto autopilot next season. It's such a great show.

My write up on it
(added a link to this)

Alex said...

Did I grab a snack and miss something? What was Michael's secret sin?

Nicolle said...

I didn't see Artzt coming simply because I was really hoping Dan Roebuck was going to be somewhat regular. I'm sorry, I like Dan Roebuck, and he was geeking it up fantastic and now Hurley's back to being the only vaguely realistic archatype on the show. But you could argue the whole thing was a "Professor: Look I've made a radio out of coconuts!" slap to the face. But what show doesn't need a neckerchief wearing Bill Nye-type macgyvering things up now and then? I'm going to miss Artzt, *sniff*
I guess I'll just go back to waiting for Locke to start grilling folks- Heart of Darkness is such a great comedy.

Rogers said...

Michael's conversation with his mom -- despite all his protestations, he never really wanted Walt back.

Uneasy Rhetoric said...

Ah, but the ladder didn't go all the way down. It was broken and twisted and just plain missing.

Which means they'll need some rope. Hopefully they won't hang themselves from it.

Shawna said...

This is what I get for having a day job. I hadn't gotten around to blogging my reactions and I visited you first.

Now I have no need. You see the show the same way I do. They will have me for the season opener, but it has to be damn good.

Amandarama said...

I too believe that Hurley was the only one the island was trying to actively keep off the plane. That, somehow, he stands a good chance of foiling the island's "plans" through the aura of his collosally bad luck.

I also have a theory that somehow Walt, with his weird psychic powers, created this crisis with "The Others". Just one more test his dad needs to conquer to prove how much he loves him. I mean, if he can miracle a polar bear onto the island...?

So, I guess I figure that the theme for next season is "Fat Man and Little Boy".

Bill Cunningham said...

And then after all the "cliffhanger ending" falderal on LOST we have a REAL cliffhanger ending on ALIAS.

It came out of nowhere and truly set us up for wanting more, more more...

Rogers said...

If only I didn't hate ALIAS' blatant misogyny so much, everyone's raving about the season finale

Nicolle said...

Amandarama- that might say that Russo is an invention of Walt's as well, heck maybe even Ethan to some extent. He's definitely effusing a children of the corn vibe, but that's a lot of unconscious manifestation. Maybe he'll get there in time, but right now I'm not buying that.

My theory of the minutes is that it all ties back into the backgammon theme and the line is fairly clear right now. Except Locke, who may be orchestrating and refereeing everything. It's kinda like Earth's own version of "The Games" or what have you; what, with ALL the Survivors that seem to have been pulled there in the past, over how many eons? Yeah totally reading to me like vaguely Comic Book/Greek/Alien/Supernatural Survival game right now. It's Jumanji!

That Girl said...

I only disagree with one thing - I thought the scene between Jack and Locke was great. I thought it really highlighted that both of the "leaders" had potential blind spots that were so deeply rooted they dont even know they are a danger to themselves. Faith versus science, each a fanatic and ignorant of reality. I thought it was also a kind of mirroring-current-politics scenario, with the islanders (and us) caught in the middle.
But that's just my view.

Diane said...

I don't think they've done a lot with Walt's powers in the past 10 episodes, have they? ("10" being "some number bigger than 2.) There was the one moment where he touched his Dad's hand and said something like, We have to get off the island. But other than that...were there manifestations or other creepiness?

One thing I really liked in this episode was how the high school teacher was clearly modeling a red shirt during that whole sequence, but they went ahead and gave him a distinctive personality anyhow.

Chris said...

Plot plot plot plot plot.

Geez. Is that really the be all and end all of network television?

Yes, there are mysteries on this show which we have an expectation will be explained -- or to be more specific, will move forward and change these characters' situation and our perception of it. Certainly, I don't want an X-Files-like flailing, but the final resolution of the sister storyline in that show was not as responsible for its ennui than the general lack of direction and change.

Maybe it's just me, but I've ceased watching lost expecting Locke-in-a-wheelchair reveals every episode, let alone every flashback.

Yeah, I can understand some of the discontent, but I also hope the writers don't bow to such pressure and stop just spending time with these characters. Does every scene really need to provide new insight into their psyche or history?

And to address an actual point that has been made: I don't think Jack is taking a "there's nothing weird about this island" stance at all. His problem is with Locke's fatalism.

Believing in mosters and a sentient island doesn't mean you have to believe that the island has your best interests at heart.

*That's* their conflict, and with both personal growth and violent deaths existing hand-in-hand on the island, it's hardly surprising that such a diagreement might exist.

Rogers said...

Well, yeah. Every scene set in the present storyline should have some revelation into their psyche, through their actions or dialogue. That's good television. What the hell is a scene which DOESN'T illuminate a character's personality through their choices, opinions, humor, reaction to the world around them? Only pure pipe scenes fall into that category, and nobody likes pipe.

Actually, I could give a rat's ass about their history. As Mamet said "What's the purpose of backstory? To give executives something to talk to writers about."

That was more my point about the flashbacks. To me, when you flashback and steal time from characters doing new and interesting stuff right now in the present -- allowing them to define themselves through dialogue and action -- there should be a reason to spend that valuable story real estate. I don't really want another Locke in the wheechair flashback either, I'm not clamoring for more flashbacks (god, I wish they'd drop them), I'm asking that when they do do them, they'd best serve some damn purpose of either a.) further illuminating character or b.) moving along the plot. (Which, by the way, are the only two good reasons to do a scene in a show anyway.) Too many of the flashbacks, particularly the ones in the finale, simply restated either information we already knew. They illuminated neither story nor character. And so, as an editor friend of mine says, they are guitar picks.

And plot's not a sin. Look at, say, my favorite show, DEADWOOD. You don't explore character in a vaccuum. There's hardly a more character-rich show on the air. But we know Swearingen's character by the actions hs takes, the ways he deals with his conflicts and his stated opinions about other character's actions. That's what defines him and fascinates us. And character's actions -- that which they do -- is plot.

And as for your intepretation of Locke's conflict with Jack, I think you're dead right that that's what's intended. But I'm working in a vaccuum here in regards to Jack. He doesn't acknowledge weirdness, he takes no actions regarding the weirdness, his dialogue is set in tone of skepticism instead of opposition. I'd trade another goddam flashback for two minutes of honest dialogue between Jack and Said on the "what the fuck is going on here and what do we do about it" topic.

Amandarama said...

Ironically, I think the last time I spent this much time attempting to apply the skills of "Critical Interpretation" I picked up with my English degree to something...it was to a "Catwoman" script :)

For Diane - Here's my breakdown around why Walt may be more responsible than he seems. Be warned, it's kind of lengthy. Hopefully it's coherent.

For additional background, review episode 1x14 "Special" - which is about Michael getting custody of Walt.

Here goes:

My theory is Walt's always wanted the attention of a parent to himself. He didn't want to share mom with stepdad (stepdad thinks he's creepy). Mom dies. Stepdad gives him to Michael. He overhears Michael asking Walt's grandmother to take him. Plane goes down on island. Ok, we're stranded on the island - I'll make Dad jealous by hanging with Locke. Dad just gets pissy and controlling ("You can't see him"). Walt wants dad to prove his love: he miracles the crisis with the polar bear. Boat nears completion - getting off the island means possibly getting sent to grandma's; Walt burns the boat down. Michael is accidently poisoned by Sun; Walt realizes he needs to get Michael out on the ocean, away from the majority of other survivors - sure Dad didn't die, but why risk any more accidents? "We have to get off the island!" They launch the boat. Walt and Michael have a nice moment where Walt "learns to drive" and finds out that the rudder is the boat's tool that will get them to civilization. Suddenly, the rudder falls off. Sawyer (with the help of Michael and Jin) saves the rudder. That night, they encounter "The Others" - who wreck the boat, kidnap Walt, wound Sawyer and strand Michael (the x-factor here will be Jin): subtext - "Come save me Daddy. Prove your love. Don't leave me."

Chris said...

I think there's a difference between shining fresh light on characters and ensuring your scenes are founded upon interesting and true character reactions. Indeed, it's those interactions a character has with their world which make sense -- because they're not revealing some hereto unknown aspect of their psyche -- that help involve us with the character because we feel we 'know' them... at least a little bit.

In fact, I'd say the most pertinent criticm of the show -- that characters like Sayeed and Jack don't have 'wtf is going on and what should we do' conversations -- is because we expect these guys to do so.

(Well, I have a little more faith in these characters' ability to deny and suppress the real dangers which affect them, so perhaps I don't expect it as much as others. I'd say that a lot of (in)actions -- psychic or otherwise -- which we tend to attribute to actual character intent or writer laziness can be more honestly explained by people just being people.)

This isn't to say I'm satisfied by nothing scenes, particularly flashbacks -- (I fought such a battle at work last month). Indeed, some of lost's mid-season character shows felt a little wasteful. Having said that, I do think there's something to be said for writing a scene 'simply' for mood, restatement, or pace. Is that true for all shows or even most shows? No. Is it the 'right' choice to keep lost viewers happy, particularly with its 'genre' show rep? Maybe not.

But while we're mentioning deadwood, I might add that another great hbo show, the sopranos, doesn't reveal new aspects of its characters or push plot along every scene. Instead, we often get the same mistakes, the same non-addressed emotions, the same hypocrisy. I fear I might be drawing too long a bow here, but I felt that the momentum and tone of lost's final episode(s) suited the small moments we got. It was almost like a montage without music, luxuriating in what has changed and what hasn't, before it all changes again.

It was important, I think, to reaffirm exactly where and from what a lot of these characters were flying from when they crashed.

Taking the time to paint those contrasts are important, even if we've seen some of the colours before.

Rogers said...

Well, yes, but even those nothing scenes, the characters making the same mistake, are illustrative. Why has the character not progressed? Is this is fatal flaw? What's my fatal flaw, how would I react? Have they in fact regressed, or are they making these mistakes in a situtation they wouldn't do so otherwise?

I'm not saying every beat has to be new -- you're right, we need to build some sort of knowledge/relationship with characters, to form the viewer addiction/connection. "Consistency, not continuity" as my friend Giffen says.

However, too many of the scenes, for me, were total null scenes. At the very least, a pace scene should remind us why these characters we're watching in the downbeat are worth watching. I kind of live by the Cintra Wilson line; The price of attention is entertainment."

Also, as far as "that's just people being people" -- well,If I want to see people being people, I'll look out my window. Even more specifically, if you as the writer are making the choice to make this a somewhat obtuse human nature is denial beat, then it had better damn well fit into a greater show context. Which, too often, it doesn't. Also, and this is just me, too often these people crossed from denial into just goddam-obtuse-not-to-ask-the-next-logical-question. Specifically, for me, they weren't people acting like people to me.

Of course, a lot of this comes from being a feature writer. When you transition from TV to features, you at first think that 110 page spread is huge. But now, 20 odd films in, I realize it's almost as much a haiku process as pilot writing. As a result, I tend to be a lot more ruthless with page weight.

I'd agree with you on the attempt to create the "this is where they came from " montage -- I have a different sense of pacing, but fine. I even like that better than what they did. Because the emotional ARC of the entire season -- another context we need to take into account -- was to build suspense and mystery quite deliberately. Even the scene structures/plots of the finale were active. Pursuit/escape in each case.

Maybe that discordance of plot to story, or execution, is what caused to many "WTF?" reactions.

Rogers said...

"Critical Interpretation" I picked up with my English degree to something...it was to a "Catwoman" script :)

I shudder. Although, if it was the shooting script, it had precisely two lines of my dialogue and one variant scene out of sixty in it, so I don't feel too bad.

God that thing's going to be a fucking curse.

Chris said...

I've got to say I liked it, but only because I didn't expect any resolution. But yes, they need to tighten up next season. I'm thinking part of the problem is that cult shows used to have at least a season to develop before the glare of intense scrutiny and popular acceptance. Or, more likely, they labored along their whole lives in obscurity before the network pulled the plug.

Now, it seems Lost is going a bit X-Files: the storylines are being dragged out to avoid resolution rather than provide it. Because resolution could mean the end of the gravy train.

My whole take on it is over at our group blog, Big Action!, handily located in the blogroll to your right (pimp pimp).

Sizemore said...

Can we start calling the monster 'Rover' yet? Locke was right that it wouldn't hurt him. All it ever did to Number 6 was bring him back to the village. Made mincemeat out of the extras though.

The show lost something special when it dumped the Locke/Walt/Michael as Dr. Smith/Will Robinson/Robot theme. I loved watching Michael wave his arms around screaming "Danger Walt! Danger!"

DMc said...

I agree it was very flabby - not going with the network note to expand the finale would have served them better. But I disagree that we didn't get anything new teased to us.

I think the information that Hurley's luck was trying to keep him *off* the plane could indicate that he's not supposed to be there. Or not.

I think it's suspicious that we spend a great scene with a hot (in looks as well as career) actress Michelle Rodriguez only to have her, you know, die in the crash. She *was* in the tail section, which they've been teasing all season. I think while we've been looking for "the others" there are "others" from Flight 815 that we don't know about. And I think Michelle Rodriguez is one of them.

And the thing in the ground, the monster, being obviously mechanically based? I don't think that had been answered definitively before, had it?

I think one of the problems with this show and how much people expect there to be the "why aren't they thinking more about this" questions is that it has only been 40 days -- in story time. Yeah, we've spent months chewing over what went down, but for them it's only a month and change. And look at all the crap that's gone down. They've spent so much time reacting that I don't know how much time there has been for long heartfelt talks about just what the hell is going on.

All of this is part and parcel of my real feel on this show, which is unlike Twin Peaks, or even X-Files, I actually believe that they know where they're going here...at least in broadstrokes terms.

The plane flashback stuff -- I think the key scenes there was the man talking to Jin, and Michelle R. -- and the rest was just tonal. I think we're going to see those two again -- on the island.

I agree though -- unless there's a radical way to reinvent them, I think they should wayyy pare back on the flashbacks next season.

DMc

Bill Cunningham said...

I'm wondering how everyone will feel when the first season DVD set comes out and we get to listen to the commentaries on various episodes (only various because unlike the very excellent DEAD ZONE DVD's no one wants to put commentaries on all their episodes anymore). I know I looked at several series differently when I heard the creators' comments.

I think for many of us, myself included, a light will shine on the path the story is on if not the direction.

Anonymous said...

To get an idea where they're going, you can see the promo for the next season by hopping over to http://www.oceanic-air.com/seatingchart.htm

and clicking on The Numbers at the bottom of the rows.

If you float around the seating chart and the rest of the site, you can find a supposed section early Exodus Draft where JJ Abrams notes are screaming "No!" to an actual appearance of the monster, some of the bottle letters, a map of the island with a whole bunch of french notes on it, and a few other things...

Hadyn said...

Why am I posting a comment on a REALLY old blog now?

Because lasy night we in New Zealand got to see the Lost finale. And we down here agree with you all entirely.

I felt a little let down by the whole "We've come for yer boy" scene. It ran well and the guys in the boat were hella creepy, but the second we actually saw the boat we knew what was up. No one has a little dinky boat out in the middle of the Pacific! (Actually when the French woman said her bit we knew what was up).

The piece about how the others are conjured by Walt is so good. I have sent it to all my friends.

Hurley is a great straight man. The bit where he takes the torch and comments that he didn't understand why they were using fire when walking with dynamite was hilarious.

Naku noa na

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