Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Harry Harrison has Escaped ...

... dead?  Please.  Too clever.

Harrison is one of the Godfathers of Leverage.  If you stroll around in the eternally crowded pub in my head, past Ellery Queen, just before Simon Templar's booth, having a beer with Alexander Monday you find Slippery Jim DiGriz.

DiGriz is the gentleman con/man thief of the future, eventually recruited as a sort of spy just because, well, it seemed a shame to waste a man of his talents.  DiGriz is a fighter, a hacker, a con man, a thief and a mastermind -- we just split him up into a bunch of different characters.  But even more important than the mechanical influences is the thematic one, the paragraph I can still quote a third of a century on, hearing my own twelve-year old voice in my head:
"We must be as stealthy as rats in the wainscoting of their society. It was easier in the old days, of course, and society had more rats when the rules were looser, just as old wooden buildings have more rats than concrete buildings. But there are rats in the building now as well. Now that society is all ferrocrete and stainless steel there are fewer gaps in the joints. It takes a very smart rat indeed to find these openings. Only a stainless steel rat can be at home in this environment."*
DiGriz is one of the reasons I always shake my head when some fans ask "Wouldn't law enforcement have caught up with our guys by now?"  There are still gaps in the joints, plenty of room for cunning justice- rats of the 21st Century.

Whatever caper you're on now Harry, give 'em hell.

In the comments, toss me the crime book or TV series you read you still hold dear.  The detective, the spy, the con man -- who are your rats in the joints?







*This is the reason the hacker in The Core was named "Rat." In one of the script cuts which made that movie less cool, in the original script Aaron Eckhardt's character recognizes the quote, setting the foundation for he and DJ Qualls' friendship.  (Blame the Paramount exec who was convinced we were making Das Boot.) 

150 comments:

  1. Anonymous8:28 AM

    Peter Balish, Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire

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  2. Many of the Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser stories are essentially capers -- "The Two Best Thieves in Lanhkmar" or "Claws from the Night", at least. And I sure loved those tales. I'd argue that "Swords of Lanhkmar" is an extended caper.

    I think in an effort to get me out of all "this science fiction junk" my mom got me to read The Scarlet Pimpernel, which ranks high on my list of Awesome Adventure.

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  3. Vlad Taltos, at the moment.

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  4. I still miss Spenser. Not the one from the 80s TV series, but the one who had 50-something novels written about him by Robert B. Parker. This was the guy who revolutionized and revitalized the hardboiled detective subgenre of mystery. There's a reason I always liked Det. Bonano in Leverage, and it's because it feels like a character pulled from the pages of Robert B. Parker's Boston. I know they're still writing new books in the series, but it's never going to be the same without Parker behind the words.

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  5. I love almost all of Robert B. Parker's detective series. When Parker died, I was saddened over his loss. But I also found myself almost mourning a good many characters that I'd grown to love. Especially those like Vinnie Morris, the mob shooter with quick hands. He, and others like him, weren't exactly good guys. They'd done some pretty bad things. Yet they made for very interesting allies.

    Reminds me of Eliot, actually. He could easily fit into Robert B. Parker's world.

    Of course, there are now new writers taking up the various Parker series. So the characters I'd thought I'd never see again are back...in a sense. I'm still deciding what to think about that. I did read the new "Lullaby" and found the characters to be pretty true.

    So what are your thoughts on another author taking over someone else's world and characters? I guess in television it isn't that uncommon, is it?

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  6. Hah, that was wild. Darryl and I posted almost at the same time about the same author. Hey Darryl!

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  7. Another great talent called away. RIP Harry!

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  8. My middle school years were all about Agatha Christie. Then in high school I went through an extended Dashiell Hammett/Lillian Hellman phase. But honestly ... the property that's probably done the most to shape who I am today is Encyclopedia Brown. RIP Donald J. Sobol.

    The most recent detective story to stick with me is The Last Good Kiss, which I think I read on your recommendation. So thank you for that.

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  9. Bernie Rhodenbarr, from Lawrence Block's "The Burglar Who..." books.

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  10. @Liz - I'm not sure about the other writers picking up the baton. In TV of course it's a necessity, and if it works it's a sign you've built your show correctly. But there is something very specific about the animating tone of a show or series of books. Meh.

    I devoured the Parker books in my college years. Big favorites, and if you look at the more low-crime Boston-based eps of Leverage, you can certainly smell the Spenser influence on them. Bonanno is definitely a Spenser-style character. FWIW, my favorite Leverage episodes -- with one or two notable exceptions -- are those eps where the Boston crime vibe is front and center. THE BOYS NIGHT OUT JOB is absolutely in the Spenser milieu.

    Oh, and Eliot's named after him. So there's that, too.

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  11. I have to say Poirot, and on TV of course "Columbo" best character ever. On spy area "The Man from U.N.C.L.E." love the show. Can I say the "A-Team"? I remember doing an assignment for an English Class like a small theatrical representation I needed gun shots I recorded them from one episode of the "A-Team" really love the show.

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  12. Anonymous9:21 AM

    I was a huge Stainless Steel Rat fan as a kid. Vlad Taltos as well. Dresden is a detective, as well as a wizard. I'll echo Spenser and throw in Jesse Stone. Also, the original Bourne was pretty cool.

    And for a laugh (and a stretch), Pratchett's Sam Vimes, of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch (and Lord Vetinari is the Mastermind of Masterminds).

    Oh, and about a half-dozen others I can think of, but this is supposed to be a short list, yeah?

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  13. Padillo & McCorkle, in the novels of the great Ross Thomas. Artie Wu. The great Clinton Shartelle

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  14. Sherlock Holmes, Sir Percy Blakeney, Jim de Griz and his ability to speak Esperanto "like a native", the A-Team, MacGyver, Stingray (well, ideologically), Lord Peter Wimsey, Howl Pendragon, the IMF (original TV series), Tommy and Tuppence Beresford, Nancy Drew, Parker Pyne, Isaac Asimov's Azazel and George, Isaac Asimov's Gregory Powell and Mike Donovan, Isaac Asimov's Dr. Susan Calvin, Columbo, Furuhata Ninzaburo, all the grifters from "The Sting", Maurice Le Blanc's Arsene Lupin, the Star Trek crew, Miles Vorkosigan, Nick and Nora Charles, Han Solo, Encyclopedia Brown and Sally Kimball and the entire oddball population of Idaville. Terry Pratchett's Moist von Lipwig is pretty entertaining, but a bit too sillily named for my taste.

    As you can probably tell, I didn't get out much, but I grew up with a fairly lively imagination.

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  15. Kenneth Royce's XXY Man. The ex-con trying to go straight, but cursed by the extra Y chromosome that makes him predisposed to criminal activity.

    I've always been drawn to the 'good guy who thinks he's a bad guy', but Royce trumped all that. Both the books and the short lived TV show are worth tracking down.

    Oh, and just to keep the British flag flying; the Carter novels by Ted Lewis. Jack's Return Home (filmed as Get Carter), Jack Carter's Law and the wonderfully titled Jack Carter and the Mafia Pigeon.

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  16. Elvis Cole, World's Greatest Detective, and his partner Joe Pike

    Jack Reacher

    Jane Whitefield

    Vlad Taltos

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  17. The Bishop's in that pub, also, right? Playing chess with someone, eating a good meal, and every so often fussing over Slippery Jim like a doting father?

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  18. That paragraph from Stainless Steel Rat has stuck with me for eons, but what's also fresh in my mind from that book is its slambang, TV-style, hook-'em-and-run opening. "I was waiting for the word charge, I thought it made a nice touch that way," says DiGriz as he triggers the explosives that drop a safe on the head of the robo-cop who's come to arrest him.

    I also fondly recall a few more sucker-punch Harrison bits, from his short stories:

    "Teddy, I'm going to kill a man."
    Silence, just silence. Even the eyes and arms were still.

    =====

    "We did the right thing, didn't we? . . . He will rise up, Garth, won't he rise?"

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  19. My fave thief/hacker/con man (all three) is Trent Castanaveras (aka Trent The Thief or Trent The Uncatchable), in Daniel Keys Moran's "The Long Run".

    That it's an awesome book doesn't hurt, but Trent himself is one of my favorite characters of all times.

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  20. RIP Harry, and I hope your estate sells some books to Hollywood. The Stainless Steel rat a no brainer, Deathworld as a mini series. And best of all Bill the Galatic Hero.

    A new series blowing me away is Contiuum.

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  21. Nero Wolfe has always been my personal favorite. Incidentally, it was watching the A&E Nero Wolfe series that lead me to Leverage in the latter half of season 2 because Timothy Hutton was in both series (this also meant I started Leverage with all the Tara episodes then went back through season 1 afterwards, go figure).

    Mind you, I’m not one of those fanatic “Timothy Hutton should have been Archie Goodwin instead of Ellery Queen” people from the murder mystery episode of Leverage. I’m a big fan of Ellery Queen as well and that made a lot more sense.

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  22. Anonymous11:37 AM

    There are a lot of character who have lived in my head at one point or another:


    Travis Magee
    Irwin Maurice Fletcher
    Inpector Frances Xavier Flynn
    Benjamin January
    Kathleen Mallory
    Aud Torvingen
    Harry Dresden
    Slippery Jim (of course)

    Alexander Scott
    Kelly Robinson
    Thomas Magnum
    Laura Holt
    Chuck Bartowski
    Sarah Walker

    Now, to conquer the captcha.

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  23. Cordelia Gray11:44 AM

    Cat Caliban, by DB Borton (Lynnette Carpenter)
    Little know series, but hysterical and socially conscious. In fact, I thought you might have referenced the first book in the series, One for the Money, in The Gold Job--it utilizes Cincinnati's abandoned underground subway tunnels in the mystery.

    Lord Peter Whimsey and Harriet Vane by Dorothy L Sayers--great send up of the British advertising industry and class system in 1920's and 30's. And gotta love Nick and Nora Charles.

    Just a few of my picks--love humor in my mysteries. Giggled for days after The Ten Li'l Grifters Job.

    RIP Harry

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  24. A "short list" sorry...but to start: Hammett and the perpetual present narration of his stories, Parker and Spenser's tightly woven moral sense (and if Eliot's named for Spenser then is Parker named for his author? 'cause that would be fun although the poets thing works too); Baroness Orczy and the delightful high action outrage of deposed aristocracy; Pratchet with Vimes unerring nose for Real crime; Rex Stout with Nero Wolfe's OCD and agoraphobia and compulsion for order (and of course, Archie's awesome memory - and no, it isn't actually eidetic). I loved the Man from Uncle's derring do, The A Team's derring don't, and of course Mission Impossible (hate the movies, but that's mostly a Cruise thing). What I dislike so much about so many crime and heist novels/dramas today is that they are so damn orderly, just one of the things that make Leverage such a welcome delight.

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  25. Bob Howard of The Laundry.

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  26. Favorite Detectives/Spys/Sneaky and/or Magnificent Bastards

    Williard Phule of Phule's... series by Robert Asprin.

    Harry Dresden.

    DS9's Garrek.

    The Patrician and Sam Vimes.

    John Constantine

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  27. Damn. Another one gone.

    Slippery Jim was one of my first literary crushes. So was the Continental Op.

    Columbo was a bit of a rat with badge---he and Nate would have understood each other very well, I think.

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  28. 3I loves me some Jean Tannen (and his mouthy friend) and Moist Von Lipwig is the second or third best character on the Discworld, but for me, there is only one real answer:

    John Dortmunder.

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  29. It's very English but I have always liked A.J Raffles master jewel thief and England cricketer - batsman and bowler of leg spin.*

    E.W Hornung who wrote the stories was Conan Doyle's brother in law.

    Agree about The Saint (from the stories rather than Roger Moore.)

    Harry Palmer from Len Deighton.

    *leg spin is the trickiest bowling to master and bat against

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  30. Oh geez, where does one start?

    FLETCH SERIES
    THE STAINLESS STEEL RAT SERIES
    THE PHULE'S COMPANY SERIES
    THE MAN FROM UNCLE BOOK & TV SERIES
    THE SPENSER BOOKS
    THE THIN MAN SERIES
    THE AVENGERS
    STINGRAY
    THE ARM SERIES of stories by Larry Niven
    WASP by Eric Frank Russell
    4 AGAINST THE MOB - the story of what Elliot Ness did in Cleveland after he got Capone.
    THE DICK FRANCIS MYSTERIES (in particular ODDS AGAINST and WHIP HAND which gave us Sid Halley, ex-jockey turned P.I.)
    THE MOD SQUAD
    HARDY BOYS / NANCY DREW / TOM SWIFT jr.
    THE MATT HELM books...

    I SPY
    IT TAKES A THIEF
    THE PERSUADERS
    MAN IN A SUITCASE

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  31. Bryan Stearns5:19 PM

    Several of Stephen Cannell's creations, but especially Jim Rockford.

    (Spent part of my youth watching them shoot The Rockford Files in Malibu. (John, send me a twitter DM when you're back in Portland, and I'll share a Rockford artifact with you. -@bryanstearns)

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  32. Amelia Peabody and her incredible family, especially son Ramses. Crimefighters, adventurers, egyptologists, and all around cool characters.

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  33. Trixie Beldon - no one's mentioned that pre-teen fiction from the 60s.

    The A-Team, Scarecrow and Mrs King, Nero Wolfe (books and the A&E series), Alias, the Alex Rider book series, the new Sherlock BBC series, and I just discovered the BBC show Hustle recently. Does the show The Pretender count? Liked that one too.

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  34. Anonymous7:07 PM

    Most of my choices have been mentioned already but I had to add the Brother Cadfael series (both the Ellis Peters novels and the PBS Masterpiece series starring the amazing Derek Jacobi).

    Re: The Parker novels. An honorable mention should go to Joe Mantegna's work on the Spenser audio books. Those tapes were my go to driving companions through college and I still can't read the novels without hearing his voice in my head.

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  35. Izzie7:33 PM

    Wow, can I say that I love everybody who commented? And you too, John!

    I'm old-fashioned in my tastes:

    The Saint
    Nero Wolfe (I actually like Archie better than I like Wolfe, and then I saw Tim in that role and loved him)
    Lord Peter Wimsey (for once, Scotland Yard isn't stupid! I love the way Charles Parker and Wimsey get along)
    Henry from Asimov's The Black Widowers stories
    Miss Marple
    Bernie Rhodenbarr
    The Continental Op
    Ellery Queen
    Father Brown
    Brother Cadfael
    Columbo!!
    Inspector Vimes ;D
    I'm also rather fond of Josephine Tey's The Daughter of Time.

    What else...

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  36. Hmmm, I'll try to restrict myself to ones I haven't seen any mention of yet:

    A trio from Erle Stanley Gardner, the creator of Perry Mason:
    * Donald Lam, under-tall ex-lawyer and private detective. His stories were told in first person, but just because he told you everything he was doing didn't mean he told you everything he was thinking. You'd watch in perplexity as he made all these elaborate preparations and then be as surprised as the bad guys when he pulled it all neatly together into a trap for them.
    * Lester Leith, not just a gentleman thief, but a gentleman Robin Hood who solves the crimes of other thieves and through elaborate schemes makes their ill-gotten gains his ill-gotten gains. Or so believe the police, who to their chagrin can never pin a thing on him, despite having a police spy on him all the time posing as a valet.
    * Ed Jenkins, the Phantom Crook. It takes a tough, intelligent man to stay alive and free with both the underworld and crooked police trying to use him; Ed Jenkins is just such a man. A technicality gives him a narrow tightrope of legal immunity; he's got to dance for his life on that tightrope, never letting them outmanuever him - and making sure anyone who tries to cross him, or tries to harm an innocent, pays dearly for it.

    Special addition (I hope the science fiction aspects don't disqualify him): Roger Zelazny's nameless troubleshooter from "My Name Is Legion." He may have helped usher in a surveillance society, but at the last, he realized the dangers of it and ushered himself out of the data banks. Now he takes on cases that perhaps could not be solved except by someone outside looking in.

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  37. Sharon McCone12:35 AM

    My fav TV sleuths:
    Honey West
    Veronica Mars
    Hetty Wainthropp
    Laura Holt
    Jonathan Creek
    Alexander Mundy

    Honorable mention to the late Stephen Cannell for Castle/Beckett and anti-hero Jim Rockford

    My fav bunglers:
    Dortmunder
    Stephanie Plum

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  38. In addition to Holmes, Harry Dresden, Garak, and Jim de Griz (it has been WAY too long since I've read the Stainless Steel Rat books), I can't deny there's a corner booth in my headspace occupied by Olivia Dunham (the detective), Peter Bishop (the con man), and Walter Bishop (the mad scientist) from Fringe. The show is so keenly well done, with far-reaching consequences for character action and some of the most natural and razor-edged dialog I've heard on TV in a while.

    Walter, by the way, is drinking a root beer float.

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  39. Jim Rockford and James Bond would be the DNA of slippery Jim on the screen.
    http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2012/08/rip-harry-harrison.html

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  40. It all started for me with Spenser (the TV series introduced me to the books) and Thomas Magnum. Later I discovered Rockford. Love Veronica Mars. Elvis Cole & Joe Pike. Jack Reacher. Harry O. Stingray. Robert McCall (the Equalizer). MacGyver.

    I love the whole hero-with-no-first-name thing so much I stole it for my comic, Near Death.

    I have to ask - if Spenser is Eliot's namesake, why does Eliot spell his name with a "C" instead of an "S?" ;-)

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  41. It's gotta be Travis McGee and Meyer.

    (Though Peter Grant (of the Ben Aaronovitch Folly series is catching up.)

    There was nothing more heart-rending than Green Ripper, until the pipe cleaner cats in Lonely Silver Rain. Hmmm, is Elliot at least a little bit built from a shambling Salvage Consultant residing at Slip F-18 at Bahia Mar Marina, Fort Lauderdale ?

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  42. Marium Leatherby, of The Hearing Trumpet, by Leonora Carrington. A 98 year old deaf lady who steals the Holy Grail with the help of a warewolf, a mailman named Taliesen, some bees, and a bunch of other elderly ladies.

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  43. Susanna L4:08 AM

    My first taste of crime came with my moms Nancy Drew books. I know, I know, it might not really count, but they still have a place in my heart.

    Then I read Agatha Christie and was hooked for life. Hercule Poirot is still the epitome of the word detective for me.

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  44. Archie Goodwin and Nero Wolfe (in that order);
    Matt Scudder (for me the gold standard of "small rat-dom);
    The Saint (I've appropriated his little stick figure as my calling card in visiting my twin sister);
    Harry Gondorff (Newman's portrayal);
    John Steed and Cathy Gale;
    And, especially, the Hon. Galahad Threepwood.

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  45. Anonymous5:14 PM

    Izzy Spellman!

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  46. Great thread...

    Elvis Cole and Joe Pike
    Jane Whitfield (still working my way though these and the other Thomas Perry books)
    Brett Battles - Cleaner series
    Barry Eisler -John Rain series
    Randy Wayne White - Doc Ford series
    Donald E. Westlake - Dortmunder series
    And his alter ego
    Richard Stark - Parker series

    From TV
    Leverage (of course)
    Stingray
    Switch (Eddie Albert and Robert Wagner)
    Mission Impossible
    Columbo
    MacGyver

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  47. Carmen San Diego4:05 AM

    My fav grifters:

    Claudia Black as Vala Mal Doran

    Glenne Headly as Janet aka The Jackal (the character I most want to see on Leverage, giving Sophie a run for her money--literally)
    Michael Caine and Steve Martin also from Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

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  48. Anonymous11:59 PM

    That paragraph from Stainless Steel Rat has stuck with me for eons, but what's also fresh in my mind from that book is its slambang, TV-style, hook-'em-and-run opening.

    I read once that Harrison used to practice writing just the opening few paragraphs of stories, because that's all editors would see and if you didn't have a first page that would make them turn to the next page, you'd already lost.

    I'm glad that opening paragraph was one of the ones that became a full-length story.

    Nobody has mentioned Artemus Gordon from the Wild Wild West TV show. (Pretend the movie never happened.) Sure, James West got all the attention, but those capers would never have worked without grifter/actor/master of disguise Artie slipping in while nobody was looking and laying the groundwork.

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  49. Anonymous9:55 AM

    Again, one that's not mentioned; Callan, played by Edward Woodwood is a late 60s, early 70s TV show about a reluctant assassin for the UK secret service - the complete antithesis of James Bond. The stories are dark and murky, and hardly anyone is a likable character.

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  62. Penderita Penyakit kondiloma atau Kutil Kelamin yang telah terinveksi disarankan untuk segera melakukan pengobatan secepat mungkin sebelum Virus HPV penyebab kutil kelamin makin banyak berkembang biak di dalam sel darah makin lama dibiarkan akan memperparah kondisi organ vital karena kutil kelamin akan terus membesar sehingga terlihat seperti jengger ayam untuk penderita yang baru tertular kurang dari satu bulan biasanya akan lebih cepat ditanggulangi obat kutil kelamin Paling ampuh dari De Nature dan terbaik ada hanya di http://obatkutildikemaluan.blogdetik.com/ untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan kutil pada kelamin silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" AlamiAdalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan (BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.

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  63.  obat kencing nanah De Nature

    Obat Kencing Nanah Gang jie dan Gho Siah.Gonore adalah penyakit menular seksual (PMS) yang disebabkan oleh bakteri  Neisseria gonorrhoeae. Bakteri ini dapat ditularkan dari orang ke orang selama aktivitas seksua.Untuk Pemesanan Obat Penyakit Kelamin Kencing Nanah di 0812-2854-1999 atau Pin BB 53E87F23

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  64.  obat kencing nanah De Nature

    Obat Kencing Nanah Gang jie dan Gho Siah.Gonore adalah penyakit menular seksual (PMS) yang disebabkan oleh bakteri  Neisseria gonorrhoeae. Bakteri ini dapat ditularkan dari orang ke orang selama aktivitas seksua.Untuk Pemesanan Obat Penyakit Kelamin Kencing Nanah di 0812-2854-1999 atau Pin BB 53E87F23

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  65. Penyakit kencing nanah bisa disebabkan oleh beberapa faktor seperti seks bebas, penularan, virus hpv, lingkungan, gaya hidup dan lainnya, Maka dari itu kita harus waspada dengan penyakit kencing nanah ini, karena penyakit kencing nanah sangatlah berbahaya, Namun untuk anda yang menderita penyakit kencing nanah, maka anda tidak perlu khawatir,

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  66. Bukan hanya pengobatan medis saja tapi ada juga pengobatan rumah alami yang dapat digunakan untuk menyingkirkan penyakit kutil kelamin ini. Intinya, karena kutil ini muncul di daerah yang sensitif, maka anda harus mencari pengobatan yang terbaik pada kulit Anda dan jika diperlukan juga dibantu dengan tenaga medis yang professional. Sebab dokter akan menjadi sumber informasi yang baik untuk mengobati penyakit ini.

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  67. Sekitar Vagina Tumbuh Daging, Berbahayakah? Kutil Pada Kepala Penis mirip bunga kol atau jengger ayam, Merupakan Penyakit Yang diakibatkan Oleh Virus.Kutil kelamin, atau disebut juga condyloma acuminata, adalah kutil atau daging berwarna kulit atau keabuan yang tumbuh di sekitar alat kelamin dan

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