Anglophones tend to overuse the japanese grammatical particle "wa." My guess is that an informal male approach to "Where's the money" in Japanese would be, "Okane doko?"
Blimey, excellent response. You don't half have a multiphonic audience :)
Cockney; "Where's me pony?"
Of course, the amount varies the word, so a monkey is a tenner, a pony is £25 right up to "an archer" which is 2 grand, named after Lord Archer who tried to bung a prostitute 2 grand in a brown envelope to stop her testifying against him in a perjury trial.
Dosh, moolah, wonga and folding are also acceptable terms for money in general.
@ anonymous re: firefly, I disagree. Having lived in two foreign countries (France and Moldova), it's very common for English-speaking expats to incorporate vocabulary from the host language into their speech while maintaining an English pronunciation that could render the word unintelligible to native speakers.
That said, David Boreanaz's pronunciation of "Mi-e foame" (I'm hungry) as "Me foamy" instead of "mee-eh fwah-meh" never fails to make me giggle.
All three Japanese suggestions are correct. Entry No. 1 (Okane wa doko desu ka?) is the textbook/polite query, Entry No. 2 (Kane wa doko da?) is what the gangster or cop would say in a menacing voice, and Entry No. 3 (Okane doko?) is what your significant other might say in a casual setting.
I cringe at the thought of anyone trying to use the "phonetic" pronunciations given here.
Any actor worth his salt needs to have a class in foreign language pronunciation. The consonants and vowels in English are almost uniformly unlike those in most other languages, so even a "phonetic" transcription is going to be pronounced horribly.
At the very least, learn IPA and look up the pronunciation of the language you are interested in on Wikipedia.
The point of the Chinese in Firefly was that is was really bad anglicized slang Chinese. Does Mal look like someone who spent a few years studying the intricacies of proper pronunciation?
Now, River, Simon and Inarra, sure their Chinese should be better. Inarra has an excuse, having been slumming it on Serenity for a while. River is crazy so she gets a pass. Also, it's pretty good for a TV show written by and for Americans.
Stress varies by dialect, but central Basque is weakly stressed, so it's probably easiest to say it evenly. Pronunciation is pretty much as it looks, though that r should be a flip.
Turkish: Nerede para?
Stress is on the last syllable, otherwise pretend it's Spanish for pronunciation. As with Japanese discussed above, there are a lot of other ways this question could be asked, depending on context.
Some of us in other countries and hence unlikely to see the promos would like to know which languages win in the end. (I'm entranced by the Old English idea.)
About the Chinese in Firefly - I thought the point of it was that in their universe, everyone was effectively bilingual. They curse in Chinese the same way English-speaking French folk occasionally say "merde".
And yes, Firefly's Mandarin pronunciation was atrocious.
The Korean dialog supplied by rwellor ("ton odieyo") makes it sound like "Money" is the name of a town or something, and it sounds too polite. "Ton odisso" would be better.
But then again, isn't Albert in your writing staff Korean?
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Japanese - [romaji] - "Okane wa doko desu ka"
Phonetic - Ohkahnay wa doko des ka.
C'est où le fric?
(French)
Ubi argentum?
(Latin)
Not very helpful I know...
Hopefully this is what you mean by "whatever language you rock."
Finnish - "Missä on raha?"
Phonetic - Meessa ohn rah-ha? (The ä is pronounced like the 'a' in 'cat', accent in each word is on the first syllable.)
Missä rahat ovat?
[Finnish]
Missa ra-hut ohwatt.
And the a in the first word is pronounced like in cat, not like in arm.
In Swedish it's "Var är pengarna?" and in German "Wo sind die Geld".
Chelete E kai?
(Sesotho)
The phonetic is basically as is written.
ton odieyo
(Korean - "money, where is it?")
Rob's Nipponese is rather proper.
Takakura Ken would first mumble something like, "Kane wa doko da." When he didn't get an answer fast enough, he'd then yell it
"Wo ist das Geld?"
German is all I can contribute, I'm afraid.
Russian:
gdye dyengi?
(the "ye" denotes one letter that sounds like "yeh")
Sorry, no other languages . . .
-Betsy
"Poo eenay ta lefta?"
-phonetic Greek
Spanish: Donde está el dinero?!?
Anglophones tend to overuse the japanese grammatical particle "wa." My guess is that an informal male approach to "Where's the money" in Japanese would be, "Okane doko?"
(Oh-kah-nay-doh-koh?)
German: Wo ist das Geld?
in German "Wo sind die Geld"
Geld is usually singular in German, Chaos has it right.
In Danish: Hvor er pengene?
New Orleans:
"Where is da fuckin' money mutherfucker?"
Mississippi:
"Boy, whar is da money?"
All my other languages have been covered. Alex, you stole my Latin. Trying to find it in tagalog, Jesus I am getting old.
Air-way iz-day onney-may?
I'm not doing it right, am I?
Oh, well, while I'm here, you lot should look up Soul Eater (Late Night edition) on Veoh. See screensnaps. You'll like!
Ancient Greek:
ποῦ τὰ χρήματα;
I've never been good at modern Greek, but it's probably more or less the same, something along the lines of
πού τα χρήματα;
Rough transscription:
pou ta chremata?
Lard Jaysus, biff those bucks the frig over, bye.
[Newfoundland]
Old English, probably wrong:
Hwǽr is gold?
Hwǽr is icge gold?
Maybe pronounced something like:
Hwahr eess gohld?
Hwahr eess eechyeh gohld?
Ha, probably not.
I can confirm "gdye dyengi?" for Russian.
I think "dhuddu ellidhe?" would be "where's the money?" in Kannada, a South Indian language.
No Mandarin yet, surprisingly.
chee-an zai nar
There are tones. Most importantly, nar=where is falling-then-rising (whereas nar=there is just falling).
Ere-whay is-ay e-thay oney-ma?
Russian:
Gud-zyeh deng-ee
Where money?
Note: first word has very short first syllable, almost an a-choo sort of thing.
Just to comment, although I loved the show I couldn't understand a word of Chinese spoken on Firefly.
TV shows need cast members who can really speak the language. What's the point of a good idea if you can't implement it well?
Italiano: dove è il denaro
Pidgin English:
Wai nao sell ani?
And maybe my french is too south-west Ontario public school, but I thought it would be:
Ou est l'argent?
So, win your bet yet?
Italian: Italiano: dov'è il denaro
dove (where) + è (is) combine into dov'è
sorry, forgot the pronunciation:
dove è il denaro
pronounced
do vay eel dee nar oh
accent on the bold words
Arabic:
Ayn al-maal?
Ayn al-taaqid? (cash)
Dialects on request.
Farsi:
Kojaa pulinaqid? (cash)
Kojaa puli?
adding "Maal" in the middle would set it to "Where's my money?"
portuguese with a carioca (rio de janeiro) accent would be -
"onde esta o dinheiro?"
(onjee eshta u djinyeiru?")
or for more of a slang
"cade o dinheiro?"
(ka-deh u djinyeiru?)
Since I was beaten to the German, I'll give you Hungarian instead:
Hol van a penz?
My best phonetic:
Hole von ah panes?
Actually, the Hungarian would be "Hól a pénz?"
You dont need the "van"
It's pronounced "whole - ah - peynz"
Ukrainian:
Гроші де?
or "Hroshi de?"
Russian:
где деньги?
others had the transliteration down fine.
In Vietnamese : Tien dau?
Phonetically: Tea'n Dow[ry]
Literally: "Money where?"
Czech: Kde jsou prachy?
Phonetic: gde sou prah-khi
Tagalog/Filipino: "Nasaan ang pera?"
Nah-sah-ahn ahng pe-rah? Pronounce "a" as in alms, not cat. Pronounce "e" as in everything.
Welsh: "Ble mae'r arian?"
Phonetic: Bleh [A bit like as in Tony Blair]
Mae-r [Mae to rhyme with Thai, with an "r" on the end]
Arr-yann [Arr as in a pirate's excalmation, yann to rhyme with Man]
Blimey, excellent response. You don't half have a multiphonic audience :)
Cockney; "Where's me pony?"
Of course, the amount varies the word, so a monkey is a tenner, a pony is £25 right up to "an archer" which is 2 grand, named after Lord Archer who tried to bung a prostitute 2 grand in a brown envelope to stop her testifying against him in a perjury trial.
Dosh, moolah, wonga and folding are also acceptable terms for money in general.
And of course, "let me feel the fibre of your fabric" (see eg Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels"
Dutch: Waar is de geld?
(The W is like an English V, and the g in geld is like ... well, collecting spit in the back of your throat I guess)
Hebrew, bitches!
Eifo hakesef?
Phonetically: Ey (like Fonzie says)-fo' ha-ke-sef?
For "Where is my money", it's Eifo hakesef sheli? That extra word pronounces as shell-ee.
Romanian, informal, Moldovan dialect:
Unde's banii?
(oon-dehss bah-nee)
@ anonymous re: firefly, I disagree. Having lived in two foreign countries (France and Moldova), it's very common for English-speaking expats to incorporate vocabulary from the host language into their speech while maintaining an English pronunciation that could render the word unintelligible to native speakers.
That said, David Boreanaz's pronunciation of "Mi-e foame" (I'm hungry) as "Me foamy" instead of "mee-eh fwah-meh" never fails to make me giggle.
My hovercraft is full of eels.
Drop your panties, Sir William, I cannot wait until lunchtime.
Chaos said:
"Wo ist das Geld?"
Yes, but he asked for phonetic translations.
Therefore:
"Vo ist das Geld!?!"
HTH, HAND
odo hagolaa
gold where
in western apache
In Samoan:
'Ofea le tupe?'
Which translates directly as:
Where the money?
There is no 'to be' verb in Samoan.
All three Japanese suggestions are correct. Entry No. 1 (Okane wa doko desu ka?) is the textbook/polite query, Entry No. 2 (Kane wa doko da?) is what the gangster or cop would say in a menacing voice, and Entry No. 3 (Okane doko?) is what your significant other might say in a casual setting.
As usual: context is everything.
I cringe at the thought of anyone trying to use the "phonetic" pronunciations given here.
Any actor worth his salt needs to have a class in foreign language pronunciation. The consonants and vowels in English are almost uniformly unlike those in most other languages, so even a "phonetic" transcription is going to be pronounced horribly.
At the very least, learn IPA and look up the pronunciation of the language you are interested in on Wikipedia.
Yes, well, these are throwaway lines for a promo, so, we can limp by.
>>>Just to comment, although I loved the show I couldn't understand a word of Chinese spoken on Firefly.
I was going to make the point that the Chinese language probably changed in Firefly's time ... but the *English* was still recognizable!
It must be hell on all those people Firefly fans inflict their "Chinese" on.
Hmmm ... all these languages for Leverage. Are we going to have a bust-out-in-tongues scene ala Global Frequency? You're such a tease, Rogers!
The point of the Chinese in Firefly was that is was really bad anglicized slang Chinese. Does Mal look like someone who spent a few years studying the intricacies of proper pronunciation?
Now, River, Simon and Inarra, sure their Chinese should be better. Inarra has an excuse, having been slumming it on Serenity for a while. River is crazy so she gets a pass. Also, it's pretty good for a TV show written by and for Americans.
In Klingon: nuqDaq 'oH wIj
In Romlan: hh taeth
Your guess is as good as mine to the phonetics
for the phonetic on the apache
o is always long like OK
so, odo would be said
Oh Doe
(it's an apache pronounciation of the spanish "oro")
hagolaa (literally "in what place")
hah go laah (double vowels are said twice as long)
for money the same thing would happen as with "oro." peso, becomes beso.
beh so. (not bayso, that's something else entirely).
get a real apache to say it. not wes studi.
Forgot the stress for the Romanian.
(OON-dehss BAH-nee)
Also, @ chigirl:
do vay eel dee nar oh
Wouldn't it be "day nar oh?"
Icelandic - Hvar eru peningarnir?
Qvar eru penegardner?
,,car" with a v in there,
,,era" with a u, not an a,
,,pen"-,,ee"-,,gardener"
As in the Finnish, accentuate the first syllable of each word.
Still probably sounds like a line from Mighty Ducks 2, but there it is.
Basque:
Non dago dirua?
Stress varies by dialect, but central Basque is weakly stressed, so it's probably easiest to say it evenly. Pronunciation is pretty much as it looks, though that r should be a flip.
Turkish:
Nerede para?
Stress is on the last syllable, otherwise pretend it's Spanish for pronunciation. As with Japanese discussed above, there are a lot of other ways this question could be asked, depending on context.
"lee ngun hey nie ah?"
that's Cantonese with "ngun" being money. the "ng" is a little tricky.
Hawaiian:
Aia i hea ka kālā?
(I think)
Some of us in other countries and hence unlikely to see the promos would like to know which languages win in the end. (I'm entranced by the Old English idea.)
American Sign Language:
MONEY WH-Q:WHERE-IS-IT
I think a better Cantonese version would be:
"Dee cheen hai been do?"
About the Chinese in Firefly - I thought the point of it was that in their universe, everyone was effectively bilingual. They curse in Chinese the same way English-speaking French folk occasionally say "merde".
And yes, Firefly's Mandarin pronunciation was atrocious.
KiSwahili:
Fedha iko wapi?
[Fay-thah ee-ko wah-pee]*
Pidgen English in East Africa:
Guh-muh muh-nuh
Bonus rapper, in KiSwahili:
Centi Hamsini (50 Cent)
*The iko may be wrong, as locatives are difficult.
Japanese, gruff and demanding, phonetic, will come across sounding like: "kah-nay-ah-DOH-KOH-dah"
The Korean dialog supplied by rwellor ("ton odieyo") makes it sound like "Money" is the name of a town or something, and it sounds too polite. "Ton odisso" would be better.
But then again, isn't Albert in your writing staff Korean?
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Portuguese (from portugal, not from Brazil - Yes, there are differences)
Normal: Onde está o dinheiro?
Slang: Onde está o guito?
I'm not even going to try phonetic...
Portuguese phonetic:
Ond shtah u ghitu?
In the north of the Country, you could also hear something like
"Onde está o graveto?"
Ond shtah u grabehto?
Something like that.... :-)
Mandarin Chinese:
(phonetic)
Chee-in dzai nalee?
Chee-in dzai nar?
(pinyin)
Qian zai nali? / Qian zai nar?
(characters)
钱在哪里？ 钱在哪儿？
Esperanto:
Kie estas la mono?
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ha-dlv a-de-la?
(the "v" is a nasal "uhn" sound)
Norwegian:
Hvor er pengeren?
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