Friday, March 15, 2013

Veronica Mars Kickstarter thoughts


After my ... discussion with some folks on Twitter the other night, I was interviewed by a very nice reporter from Hollywood Reporter, who had the courtesy to not misquote me (rarer than you think). I'd say, however, that fellow Leverage EP Chris Downey (@chrdowney) and big-time Veronica Mars fan sent me an email about the Veronica Mars Kickstarter which, although it was a question, actually summarized the issue far better than I could dealing with multiple lines of questioning over 5 hours:

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John:

I just tried to follow your Twitter war with the Veronica Mars Kickstarter haters.  What, exactly, is their problem?  

There is a product (VERONICA MARS MOVIE) that is being offered to consumers in exchange for money.  The more money you pay, the more product you receive.   For $35, you get a pretty good deal:  A digital copy of the movie and a script (I think).  For $100 (what I paid) you get that plus some swag and updates about the movie.  And there is an intangible value as well, i.e. the knowledge that but for my contribution, this product would not have been made.  That may prompt someone to pay $200 instead of $35.  That is, I think, similar to the intangible value someone puts on a shirt that costs $450 because it bears a designer label.

Who, exactly, is getting screwed here?

When the kickstarter funded VERONICA MARS MOVIE gets made, does the studio have an obligation to share the profits with the contributors?  Fuck no.  The contributors are receiving fair value for their money.  How do we know that?  Because yesterday, the free market decided that $35 for a digital copy of the movie plus a script was a pretty good deal.  

The fact that I pay $15 to see OZ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL after it's made instead of $35 to see VERONICA MARS MOVIE before it's made, is, I think irrelevant.  All that matters is if I, the consumer, believe I am receiving fair value.

What am I missing here? 

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The answer, of course, is he is missing nothing. Capitalism is harrrddd.

It's worth parsing out the three primary questions regarding the Veronica Mars Kickstarter I've encountered.

Question 1: Corporate involvement taints this Kickstarter project.

Answer 1: Massive sums of capital are needed to make television and movies. It's gonna come from somewhere -- a private human or collection of humans (that, for tax purposes, will form a corporation) or a production company that feels comfortable assuming the risk because they have distribution channels already in play (a big entertainment corporation). These are your two choices, because true crowdfunding on the scale necessary doesn't exist right now. (There's a running discussion on Twitter right now if a subscription model is bound by the same rules. So far -- unresolved!)

The first generation of these projects are going to be based in exploiting the social capital of established IP's. For legacy reasons those IP's will be owned by an entertainment corporation. The next generation of this sort of thing will be based around creator-driven projects, maybe. Big, big maybe. But those creators will still need distribution channels, and there's no guarantee those problems will be solved at the same time. So odds are, they'll wind up partnering with an established entertainment entity that already has distribution deals.

Also, it's KICKSTARTER. A common business term is right there in the name. It's not a charity site like Kiva (which is awesome, and you should go there). Whether the implication of "small business" or "indie" is hard-wired into the site is a matter of opinion, but I'd argue that once Double Fine raised $3.3 million for a video game, we all knew what the site was about. (Full disclosure: I backed them. Because they are cool and make cool things)

I mean, I hate to break it to you, but Double Fine is not two guys in a garage. It's a successful twelve-year old game studio that's released multiple profitable games into the mass market and looks to have around two dozen employees. You understand that they don't take the Kickstarter money, put that in a separate bank account, and then only draw from it when paying people who make the game, literally dollar for dollar, right? It moves into their overall financial structure as one of their revenue streams, it's used to collateralize loans -- that's just how businesses are run. Any illusions you have that they dumped that money into a kid's saving account and scrawled adorable handwritten checks to coders are your own.

In the Veronica Mars case a superhumanly determined creative person, Rob Thomas (@RobThomas) is using the Kickstarter system to raise funds to convince some fairly hip people in a single division of a very cautious studio that there is a low enough risk in making a Veronica Mars movie that they should invest their own time and money in IP they already own, and then assume all the risk of distribution -- and that risk is real, whether you want to believe that or not. 

Let's get this straight, right up front: the gross cost of making the Veronica Mars movie (getting insurance, completion bond, union contracts, just the fucking accounting etc, etc), distributing it, and then dealing with the expenses of maintaining that IP, from soup to nuts, will almost certainly cost more then the Kickstarter will make, and would be even MORE if it weren't leveraging Warner Brothers' existing relationships and contracts. 

You think Rob Thomas, personally, wants to be writing residual checks for the rest of his life?  The answer is "no", and I am sure of that because my friend Dean Devlin (@Electric44) will be writing Leverage residual checks for the rest of his life, and he is quite vocal about what a pain in the ass that is.

If somehow the thing is in the black from Day One because costs are low and the Kickstarter gets to a ridiculous number, that's cool. Why? Because we spend pretty much all our time in television financing trying to mitigate risk, and one of the ways we do this by getting pre-sales in different markets. This just means there's a new pre-sales market with different, wonky set of requirements. Not a game-changer. But an interesting data point.

Pre-sales are an important part of the television and movie financing process, and there's not a lot of daylight between the nature of the pre-sales contract revenue stream from a foreign buyer and an audience human. We finance movies and TV off audience pre-sales -- for example estimated future ticket sales, DVD sales, or download sales -- already. Hell, we finance based on theoretical profits kicked out by a modeling formulas, often absent actual data.   And we get giant bank loans for that shit. Movie studios don't use the profits from successful movies to make their next movie, because they have to wait a couple years for all those monies to come in. They get bank loans based on projections of that future income of a successful movie. TV financing is different because of the nature of the license fee income and evolution thanks to the increased throughput, but not fundamentally so.

SIDEBAR: I'd note this raises a possibility that most people are ignoring. Everyone's focusing on new IP or old IP. What's intriguing is the idea of bolstering current IP. Edging in a couple extra episodes, doing a much more spectacular DVD release, that sort of thing, may be more relevant down in the 1.x-2.x million per episode budget world. Maybe. You might also argue there's no such thing as non-current IP anymore. But that's a different post. :END SIDEBAR

Do you want cool things? Do you want bigger, more expensive cool things? Then as your desired projects scale up, reliance on the established infrastructure -- both financing and distribution -- will increase. Until a theoretical brand new perfectly democratized financing and distribution system are created, and even then things will gravitate back to cartels and leveraged production because the free market already kind of taught us that's the most efficient way to make big expensive chunks of entertainment.

Note: Some people will say I'm blurring the line here a lot between what are technically different financial organs -- financing, revenue, pre-sales, etc. Agreed. But parsing it all out precisely would take 15,000 goddam words. Let us just say that for the purposes of this discussion Money is Money, people who know better know what I mean, and people who don't know now know more than they did.

QUESTION 2: The investors are being duped/cheated.

Answer 2: People are not idiots, and I see no one intentionally misleading anybody. And trust me, as a guy who waded through 5 seasons of research on high-level corporate scumbaggery, I know misleading when I see it.

I think this is one of the big things people are missing: "intangible values" are part of the deal, and have been a legitimate "part of the deal" for an eternity.  As Chris so adroitly notes, the free market has determined that the people are getting the value they want for their money. As I said in the Hollywood Reporter article: "You pay for value added all the time. In this case, the value added is that the thing exists."

Some people were arguing that this was in no way circumventing the "gatekeepers", it was actually enriching them. (Some people typed that rather hysterically in all caps...) I think that fundamentally misunderstands the nature of "gatekeeping". It's not about who owns the stuff, it's who decides what gets made when

Or, rather more memetically, "People will trade money for control."

Since audience humans do not want to/are not qualified to spend all the time learning how to write, or make television, and probably won't come to a perfect solution that makes everyone creatively happy, they vest that control in someone they trust -- in this case, Rob Thomas. In a government, by the way, that's called a republic.  We are passingly familiar with that system, as a culture.

All that to say Warner Brother is not "getting $2 million for free." They are providing both actual physical products and other intangible rewards that are nonetheless of a non-zero value as established by the free market of Veronica Mars fans. "Free" would mean "we give you nothing in return." You know. Free.

Is there a chance that the movie might not actually get made? Sure. Shit happens. Is there any chance if that happens that the WB, who's holding that money in a production account, would want to be on the other end of a super-high publicity giant goddam class-action suit if they keep the money? You're adorable.

Yeah, the audience might not get what they want. Happens when you buy a book or go see a movie or buy a DVD set based on reviews. Life happens.

Question 3: I wrote a post for a nationally respected magazine that was factually wrong in several places, made a sexist crack about indie artist Amanda Palmer, and made an elitist argument extolling the virtues of exclusivity and relying on traditional financing, then when the internet smacked me down for it I spent hours pretending what I was REALLY saying was I concerned about the mixture of that traditional financing and crowdfunding, completely contra the article I actually wrote. Why is everyone being so mean to me?

Answer 3: The internet is big, mean and smart. Sack up.

230 comments:

  1. Clyde Lee Graham11:41 AM

    So John, Global Frequency?

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  2. Here's the further fun in it (for me):

    Alt-financing allows for alt-media. That is, media that in no way would ever be freaking seen on today's TV screens. It would be strangled in its cradle during the pitch meeting, if not aborted beforehand. I'm thinking 6-pack series, serials (and by that I mean serials, not "on-going dramas") and transmedia.

    The point is that Veronica Mars is yet another crowbar working at the locked door of our perceptions as to how "TeeVee" is supposed to look. As stated in the article, the future-thinking digital division of WB is handling the legal and marketing/distribution for VM. That means a "TV movie" for the fans - with a few token theatrical release "events" - and not something big, bloated and unidentifiable as Veronica. Something smart both financially and creatively. Something that slices to the bone of its target, and not bludgeons the masses.

    Do we really expect anything less from the sassy Miss Mars?

    So anything that pushes the boundaries of what and how stories are told in this day and age gets a big thumbs up from me as well as a few of my pulp-earned shekels.

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  3. I love you. You are the wise cranky uncle who says sensible things at Thanksgiving and inspires the nieces and nephews to join the Peace Corps.

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  4. I didn't throw in for the VM one because I've never seen VM, but the point about getting to say "I was a part of that!" is why I have thrown in on several other Kickstarters. The one I'm the proudest of funding and will frequently point out to people was the restoration and port to Blu-Ray of "Manos: The Hand Of Fate". Seriously gives me great joy to tell people, "That awful movie? I made sure it was available for future generations to be tortured with."

    If future generations invent time travel and come back into the past to get me and convict me of crimes against humanity for backing that project, I will count it as a win.

    Anyway, answer #3 is the best. Although I thought you were very nice to keep answering that gentleman's questions (and I use the term 'gentleman' loosely) when he kept dodging yours.

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  5. THANK YOU for this. I watched the twitter war with fascination, and came out with a lot more information than I had before. (and was thouroughly entertained while acquiring it!)

    But having it summarized here is something that I can share with friends, and it's quite a lot clearer than trying to parse through pages of re-tweets.

    It's very much appreciated.

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  6. I think this is moving the Kickstarter platform forward, but I do feel al ittle annoyed that this is happening on the heels of Torment: Tides of Numenera's computer RPG Kickstarter. They became the top dog kickstarter with a widely dismissed video game genre, using a setting and a dev team that themselves were all but kickstarter native, and now they've been blown out of the water by a project based on a TV show that had 2.5 million viewers per week. I just wish my corner of the crowd funding long tail had more time in the limelight, before this new transition state stole all of the press about kickstarter after only a week. But I'm obviously self-aware about the hipsterishness of this upset feeling I have.

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  7. Intangible, yes...like the feeling of having supported something you enjoy. Or the satisfaction, a sensation of "Hah!", at seeing a quality show get new life when so many of my favorites have been canceled and I couldn't do a thing about it. Tonight, a lot of people are going out, easily blowing through a wad of cash, with nothing left to show for it when the night is over. Except for that intangible something that makes it enjoyable for them. (And possibly a hangover.) What's the difference?

    Stupid question of the day: what is an IP?

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  8. I think this (from Downey's email) is the relevant piece of the story:

    "Because yesterday, the free market decided that $35 for a digital copy of the movie plus a script was a pretty good deal."

    Kickstarter tries super-hard to make clear that "pledges" in exchange for "rewards" are *not* market exchanges. They say:

    "Backing a project is more than just giving someone money, it's supporting their dream to create something that they want to see exist in the world."

    Kickstarter doesn't really distinguish between backing as presale and backing as NPR-style low-value rewards in exchange for genuine donations and exactly because Kickstarter doesn't draw that line, you can't say "oh, person x backed something, therefore that backing is the fair market price of the reward."

    That said, critics have a leg to stand on only to the extent that backing levels are set above a fair market price for the reward -- if it's straight presales, like DoubleFine's adventure game, the prices will match those of comparable goods in the non-Kickstarter market. But that's something we can actually estimate. Above $275, everything is super-custom ("n minutes of an actor's time" isn't really comparable to anything), so probably can be assumed to be fine. But let's list the lower level rewards:

    $10: a script. Comparable to an ebook, probably fine.
    $25: t-shirt plus script. Implied price of t-shirt is $15, fine.
    $35: $25 plus digital movie, implied price of movie $10. fine.
    $50: $35 plus deluxe dvd. $15 for the dvd extras sounds plenty market.
    $75: $50 plus movie poster. $25 for a movie poster is still market.
    $100: $75 plus a blu-ray disk. Maybe a little over.
    $175: $100 plus three seasons of VM on DVD. Fine.
    $200: $100 plus the poster is signed by the cast. Fine -- signed posters are expensive.
    $275: $200 plus the three seasons on DVD. Fine.

    So it's not quite true that you can just fiat that it's ok because people paid, since there may well have been lots of the morally-odder "donation" piece bundled in. But if you actually look at the rewards it should be pretty clear that's false. There's no real donation component -- just someone funding a whole movie off presales to individuals.

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  9. I'm so glad you posted this. I tried to post up some thoughts on my blog yesterday:

    http://cheonvath.blogspot.com/2013/03/veronica-mars-crowdsourced.html

    For one thing, I erroneously used the term "presales", which I meant as something akin to advance ticket sales or like using a bake sale to fund a theater production, only larger... but apparently it means something else in formal terms which I was informed of really pedantically.

    At any rate, I'm glad this is here to point to.

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  10. John, I want to give you a hug and buy you a pint of Guinness.

    I have always admired and respected your handle on how to create discussion using social media and how available you are your fans. Countless times I've been stunned at how honest and forthright you are about the truth behind making TV that people love. It is TV that people love, too. I have been on board the fun train with Leverage and I know the work you, Chris, and Dean put into things. I was at ConCon and I know the exact amount of work and behind the scenes hassle it was to get that rolling. It was worth every penny.

    This is just another fine example of the sort of impact someone can make if they actually create a smart conversation.

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  11. GinaFan5:40 PM

    What if a guy, looking like a hobo, approaches you on the street and asks if you can spare some money for food. You generously give him ten dollars. Then he walks to the intersection and waves to someone you can't see, and up rolls a limo. He jumps in saying, "Guys, I got the beer money!". That would seriously piss me off.

    On the other hand, if the same guy offered you a DVD+swag that you liked, and you agreed to pay $45, and a while later you found you could have gotten it for $35, oh well, you got what you wanted for what you agreed on. No big deal.

    It kind of depends on the level of deception. If the guy was standing in front of the limo, and asking for beer money, and you gave it, you wouldn't feel cheated.

    If WB were hiding around the corner knowing they were going to make a VM movie, and secretly got an indie producer to setup a kickstarter under the premise that the only way it would be funded and made was with donations, and all you got was a little sticker for your $45 donation. Jesus.

    There's always some risk in making a film, and the rewards go to those taking the risk. With kickstarter, some risk is being passed to the audience, and they are rewarded by getting to see the film that, presumably, -otherwise wouldn't be made(or made as well)-.

    The audience does often have a good "estimate" of how likely it is that a movie will be made. Imagine if Disney started a kickstarter for the next Star Wars movie. People might chuckle. But, as long as the donation/reward ratio simply resembles pre-sales, why not?

    Often, however, I imagine that the people thinking of making the movie have a better "estimate" of whether or not they will make it.

    Whenever there is an "estimate", there is always some chance that it's wrong, and even grossly so. That leaves lots of room for deniability in cases of intentional deception.

    I'm sure nobody is going to be deceived, ...until they are.

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  12. Anonymous5:52 PM

    omg, I've missed you! great post. I am so happy to use my money to vote for getting to see the 21st century Nancy Drew again. Make it so

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  13. Anonymous9:05 PM

    @Liz--IP = Intellectual Property. i.e. copyright.

    As is noted in the article, "Massive sums of capital are needed to make television and movies", so what used to happen was that creators (e.g. Rob Thomas) would transfer the copyright to a studio (WB) in exchange for the money to make the TV series (or movie).

    In the future, it *may* be possible for the next Stephenie Meyer to retain the rights to her story by crowd funding the movie/TV series instead of relying on studio money.

    Leverage was a step in this direction, except that, instead of thousands of people putting up tens or hundreds of dollars each, you had one person (Dean Devlin) foot the entire bill.

    HTH - Mark

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  14. Perfection. I'm thrilled by the opportunity to shout "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY" for more Veronica Mars!

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  15. Remembering that something similar was attempted re: Enterprise back when the cancel order from its host network was made known. Of course, the Trek United fan group was rebuffed at the time. I wonder if CBS/Paramount might be taking a look at how WB worked this out with an eye towards...well, perhaps not Enterprise, but other properties in their catalogue?

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  16. All very well laid out, as one might expect. You won't need a Twitter re-write ;-)

    I backed the Double Fine Kickstarter as well, in my case for $15, which buys me a digital copy of the game. I don't really care how they manage their funds beyond that. I love their products and it wouldn't have gotten made without a successful campaign. The fact that they exceeded their goals means a better game is being made. In other words, Downey got it right.

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  17. Trying to think about this from the outside (I.e. As somebody who is neither involved in TV/movies nor has any interest in the VM thing since this kickstarter was the first time I ever read the name), I guess big part of the problem is the realisation that "this _is_ what winning feels like". This was explained to me a long time ago in a totally different context. Meaning you fight for an idea for a long time against the inertia and unwillingness of the big guys. Now you _want_ winning to be a Conan sort of thing, i.e. see their houses burning and hear the lamentations of their women, but what it _actually_ is like is that the big guys say "now that you mention it .." and suddenly switch to doing what you always argued for and possibly even claim that they were the first ones to have that brilliant idea in the first place.

    Winning means that the thing you've always wanted finally gets done. It does NOT mean that everybody finally sees you as the winner while the former big guys lose everything and die lonely deaths.

    hence the problem a large number of people seem to have with the idea that "movie gets crowdfunded! Yay! Wait .. What? A studio profits from it? But .. But *splutter*"

    and I understand the feeling, I really do, and it certainly explains how being part of the crowdfunding for Iron Sky was/is more satisfying, since that was very much an "against the odds" endeavour, but .. Still. You gotta at some stage accept that there's winning and then there's winning, and this here is the latter kind, whether you like it or not.

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  18. Thank you Maestro!

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  19. One thing that's cool about the VM Kickstarter is that it's a new, quantifiable way of measuring audience interest. Lots of people *say* they are interested in certain shows or ideas, but naturally not all of them will plunk down money to see it happen. In the past, this has caused studios to (wisely, I think) shoot down lots of great ideas because the audience interest can't be proven to be big enough to provide a return on investment. With a Kickstarter, you can see *exactly* what the audience interest is: $3.5 million and rising. It seems like it would make it easier for studios to assume risks when they can more accurately gauge the audience interest.

    P.S. Words cannot describe my excitement over this project. Veronica Mars, kicking butt with brains and beauty again! YES!

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  20. Anonymous5:23 PM

    1) It's already affecting creative decisions: http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/exclusive-veronica-mars-creator-rob-thomas-on-the-wildly-successful-kickstarter-movie-campaign/3/

    2) When has a big studio ever given money back? Hollywood's creative financing where the #1 blockbuster movie doesn't turn a profit is legendary. "Dear fans, your contribution was an investment and, as you know, all investments are risky. We used your money to pay for a script and rent offices, but couldn't come to an agreement with the talent. Have a poster and a digital copy of the script. One download per IP address, digitally watermarked, and we'll spend millions and millions of dollars to hunt you down and sue you if it shows up on Pirate Bay. Good day."

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  21. @Anonymous

    Holding the funds in a production account implies certain things it's not worth going into now, but no, they wouldn't/couldn't keep the money. Those funds are quite specifically, by Hollywood accounting purposes, pre-sales, and keeping them would be fraud.

    It's not enough cash to bother lying about, basically. Plus always assume lazy>evil for studios.

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  23. Anonymous9:00 AM

    It may also be worth pointing out that Rob Thomas is no babe in the woods. He has lawyers, too, and I'm sure his deal with the studio is as solid as it can be. The question here is not "Do you trust the studio?" It's more like "Do you trust Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell?" And they both have a lot to lose if this project goes down in flames.

    I have some slight connections to the movie business, and know people who will be working on this when it happens. They are all legit, experienced, movie folks. They've seen it all and know a scam when they see one. This isn't.

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  25. I really like the idea of using kickstarter to show fan support for sequels. I think there is a value on the simple fact that they will make a movie when they otherwise would not have. I happily contributed and would be happy to contribute for other shows I have loved and lost like Buffy or Leverage!

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  26. I think there is a value on the simple fact that they will make a movie when they otherwise would not have.

    That's a fact that somehow has escaped Major Writer from a Major Publication.

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  28. "What's intriguing is the idea of bolstering current IP. Edging in a couple extra episodes, doing a much more spectacular DVD release, that sort of thing, may be more relevant down in the 1.x-2.x million per episode budget world."

    This is a much less exciting future than the one you envisaged back when you were writing your 4th generation media stuff.

    Rather than what you were talking about back then (smaller, more independent outfits which were able to take more risks because they were selling directly to a smaller audience) the we're now talking about a world in which crowdfunding can have a marginal impact on quality or quantity.

    And you're probably right, it's just that the other future sounded better!

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  29. mrmike12:16 PM

    Clyde Lee Graham said...
    So John, Global Frequency?


    This. :-)

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  30. @Phil - I mean this particular crowdfunding model. I still think the other one could evolve.

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  31. Phil - I mean this particular crowdfunding model. I still think the other one could evolve.

    You would think one would need the other to be proven as a method before it could get started.

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  33. Damn, but I'm *STILL* not over my scary fan girl crush on you, Rogers. The smarts, they are sessy.

    As for capitalism being hard, having just read quite a bit about Ayn Rand, I'd say Oooohhh yeah, it be complicated.

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  35. "Assume lazy>evil for studios." made me laugh.

    Please blog more, good sir.

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    Jika penyakit kelamin dibiarkan maka akan tumbuh seperti bonkol yang besar sekali, dapat tumbuh seperti kembang kol dan tidak menyebar. Karena kemiripan bentuknya, kutil kelamin pun sering disebut dengan jengger ayam. Meskipun kutil kelamin hanya tumbuh di alat kelamin tetapi lebih mengganggu dibandingkan kutil di bagian tubuh lainnya. Jika tidak diobati kutil kelamin menimbulkan beban psikologis bagi penderitanya.
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  63. Anonymous6:38 PM

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  64. https://www.academia.edu/9959775/Obat_herbal_untuk_kutil_di_alat_kelamin
    https://www.academia.edu/9947545/Obat_Kutil_Kelamin_Tradisional_Yang_Ampuh
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    https://www.academia.edu/8845005/Obat_kutil_kelamin_di_apotik_herbal
    https://www.academia.edu/8448408/CARA_CEPAT_MENGOBATI_KUTIL_DI_KEMALUAN
    https://www.academia.edu/8371464/OBAT_KUTIL_DI_KEMALUAN_OBAT_KUTIL_KELAMIN_TRADISIONAL
    https://www.academia.edu/8326439/Obat_kutil_di_kemaluan_Obat_kutil_di_Penis
    https://www.academia.edu/8326135/Obat_Ambeien_Herbal_Obat_wasir_di_Apotik
    https://www.academia.edu/10136134/jual_obat_kutil_kelamin
    https://www.academia.edu/10136202/obat_kutil_di_daerah_kelamin
    https://www.academia.edu/10136213/obat_tradisional_kutil_di_kelamin
    https://www.academia.edu/10136231/obat_dokter_untuk_kutil_kelamin
    https://www.academia.edu/9806752/obat_wasir_di_apotik

    http://denature-herbal.com/2015/01/17/cara-mengatasi-ambien-dengan-obat-herbal/
    http://www.apotikherbal.net/2015/01/bagaimana-cara-mengobati-ambeien-cara.html
    http://obat-penyakit-kelamin.blogspot.com/2015/01/obat-yang-manjur-untuk-penyakit-kencing.html
    http://denature-herbal.com/2015/01/19/obat-wasir-yang-sudah-terdaftar-di-bpom/

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  65. Anonymous6:43 PM

    Salah satu Penyakit Menular Seksual (PMS) adalah Penyakit Kutil Kelamin. Banyak orang yang belum tahu apa itu penyakit kutil kelamin dan cara mengatasinya. Berikut pertanyaan yang sering diajukan untuk mengenal lebih jauh Penyakit Kutil Kelamin.

    Paket Produk de Nature Obat Kutil kelamin herbal, Solusi terbaik untuk menyembuhkan penyakit kelamin yang sedang anda derita, aman dan tanpa efek samping

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  66. Anonymous12:41 AM

    Penyakit ini umumnya muncul karena penderita mengejan terlalu keras pada saat buang air besar. Dengan mengejan terlalu keras, maka pembuluh darah di sekitar anus dapat melebar dan pecah menimbulkan infeksi dan pembengkakan yang berakhir pada masalah wasir atau ambeien tersebut.

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  67. Penderita Penyakit kondiloma atau Kutil Kelamin yang telah terinveksi disarankan untuk segera melakukan pengobatan secepat mungkin sebelum Virus HPV penyebab kutil kelamin makin banyak berkembang biak di dalam sel darah makin lama dibiarkan akan memperparah kondisi organ vital karena kutil kelamin akan terus membesar sehingga terlihat seperti jengger ayam untuk penderita yang baru tertular kurang dari satu bulan biasanya akan lebih cepat ditanggulangi obat kutil kelamin Paling ampuh dari De Nature dan terbaik ada hanya di http://obatkutildikemaluan.blogdetik.com/ untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan kutil pada kelamin silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" AlamiAdalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan (BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.

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  68. Kutil pada alat kelamin luar bisa diangkat melalui laser, krioterapi (pembekuan) atau pembedahan dengan bius lokal. Pengobatan kimiawi, seperti podofilum resin atau racun yang dimurnikan atau asam trikloroasetat, bisa dioleskan langsung pada kutil. Tetapi pengobatan ini memerlukan waktu beberapa minggu sampai beberapa bulan, bisa melukai kulit di sekelilingnya dan sering gatal.

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  69. Kutil dalam istilah medis disebut Papilloma. Papilloma itu sebenarnya
    sejenis tumor jinak pada kulit, berasal dari penebalan lapisan luar
    kulit yang berlebihan. Bentuk kutil ini bisa bermacam-macam.

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  71.  obat kencing nanah De Nature



    Obat Kencing Nanah Gang jie dan Gho Siah.Gonore adalah penyakit menular seksual (PMS) yang disebabkan oleh bakteri  Neisseria gonorrhoeae. Bakteri ini dapat ditularkan dari orang ke orang selama aktivitas seksua.Untuk Pemesanan Obat Penyakit Kelamin Kencing Nanah di 0812-2854-1999 atau Pin BB 53E87F23

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  73. Penyakit kencing nanah bisa disebabkan oleh beberapa faktor seperti seks bebas, penularan, virus hpv, lingkungan, gaya hidup dan lainnya, Maka dari itu kita harus waspada dengan penyakit kencing nanah ini, karena penyakit kencing nanah sangatlah berbahaya, Namun untuk anda yang menderita penyakit kencing nanah, maka anda tidak perlu khawatir,

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  74. Bukan hanya pengobatan medis saja tapi ada juga pengobatan rumah alami yang dapat digunakan untuk menyingkirkan penyakit kutil kelamin ini. Intinya, karena kutil ini muncul di daerah yang sensitif, maka anda harus mencari pengobatan yang terbaik pada kulit Anda dan jika diperlukan juga dibantu dengan tenaga medis yang professional. Sebab dokter akan menjadi sumber informasi yang baik untuk mengobati penyakit ini.

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  77. Sekitar Vagina Tumbuh Daging, Berbahayakah? Kutil Pada Kepala Penis mirip bunga kol atau jengger ayam, Merupakan Penyakit Yang diakibatkan Oleh Virus.Kutil kelamin, atau disebut juga condyloma acuminata, adalah kutil atau daging berwarna kulit atau keabuan yang tumbuh di sekitar alat kelamin dan

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  78. penyakit yang ditularkan melalui hubungan seks : vaginal, oral dan anal. Juga dapat menular melalui persentuhan kulit dengan daerah yang terinfeksi.

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  82. Anonymous3:37 AM

    dapatkan dan buktikan khasiatnya dari obat herbal kutil kelamin yang aman dan ampuh untuk mengobati atau merontokan dengan cepat aman dan nyaman dari penyakit kutil pada kelamin pada pria dan wanita dengan cepat dan aman tanpa efek samping ataupun ketergantungan obat. produk ini merupakan obat herbal ampuh dan manjur yang terbuat dari bahan alami dari alam Indonesia untuk mengatasi penyakit kutil kelamin dengan aman tanpa operasi dari de Nature Indonesia. Penyakit Kutil kelamin adalah salah satu dari dua penyakit menular seksual yang paling sering menular, dan di sebabkan oleh virus. Penyakit satunya lagi adalah herpes genital. Penyakit ini disebabkan oleh virus papiloma manusia sering disingkat sebagai hpv.
    Penyakit kutil seperti luka yang muncul ini juga disebut dengan nama kondiloma acuminate. Kutil tumbuh dengan ukuran kecil, tampak seperti daging berwarna di daerah genital dan anal. Dan penelitian menunjukkan bahwa 10-40% wanita yang aktif secara seksual oterinfeksi hpv, meskipun kehadiran HPV ini pada penderita tidak selalu disertai dengan munculnya kutil kelamin.
    Jalur Penyebaran Kutil Kelamin
    Kutil kelamin menyebar melalui kontak langsung dengan orang yang terinfeksi, seperti melalui vagina , anal, atau oral seks. Sekitar enam puluh persen orang yang melakukan kontak seksual dengan penderita kutil kelamin akan mengalami gejala, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan semenjak hubungan itu.
    Virus papiloma masuk melalui lecet atau luka kecil di area kelamin yang terjadi selama aktivitas seksual. Setelah virus ini masuk, biasanya dibutuhkan sekitar tiga bulan untuk gejala pertama muncul, tetapi bisa juga memakan waktu lebih lama hingga bertahun-tahun.
    Dalam kasus yang jarang terjadi, orang dewasa atau anak-anak dapat terinfeksi secara tidak langsung. Misalnya, menggunakan handuk orang yang terinfeksi , atau jika tergesek alat kelamin. Selain itu, bayi dapat terinfeksi melalui persalinan karena vagina ibunya ada kutil kelamin.

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  83. Anonymous6:22 AM

    Buktikan khasiat obat kutil kelamin kami yang terbuat dari bahan alami asli indonesia tanpa efek samping dan sangat manjur. Penderita penyakit ini tentunya bertanya-tanya, bagaimana caranya untuk menyembuhkan penyakit ini cukup di rumah saja dan tidak perlu repot-repot harus ke dokter. Atau ada beberapa alasan lainya yang menyebabkan seseorang tidak ingin menceritakan penyakitnya ini, dan anda jangan khawatir karena anda tidak sendirian dalam permasalahan ini.
    Kutil yang terjadi pada organ kelamin ini adalah penyakit yang disebabkan oleh virus menular bernama APV atau Human Papilloma Virus. Virus ini dapat ditularkan melalui kulit atau kontak kulit. Hal ini berarti bahwa seseorang bisa tertular virus ini HPV melalui hubungan seksual dan meski sudah menggunakan kondom. Biasanya penderita juga tidak menunjukkan tanda sedang mengalami penyakit kutil kelamin, sehingga hal ini juga mungkin orang lain untuk mendapatkan kutil kelamin dari penderita yang tidak memiliki tanda-tanda kutil kelamin tersebut. Misalnya jika pasanganya anda memiliki salah satu
    strain HPV yang menyebabkan pertumbuhan kutil kelamin, maka Anda juga bisa mendapatkannya. Keadaan juga bisa menjadi lebih buruk, jika penderita menyebarkan virus tersebut yang sudah berbentuk
    kutil.
    Dari membaca informasi di atas, seharusnya sudah jelas bahwa sangat mudah seseorang terkena virus ini yang kemudian dapat menyebabkan pertumbuhan kutil pada alat kelamin. Kutil yang tumbuh pada alat kelamin ini juga bukanlah penyakit hina yang membuat anda merasa rendah diri dan malu untuk mengkonsultasikanya, apalagi jika ini masih berupa gejala awal, karena banyak penderita yang mengalami pertumbuhan kutil ini pada beberapa bagian alat kelaminya.
    Jadi jika anda bertanya-tanya bagaimana dapat menyembuhkan penyakit ini dari rumah, maka yakinlah saja pengobatan itu ada karena sudah banyak penderita yang menyembuhkan penyakitnya ini dari rumah. Sebenarnya juga ada beberapa alasan kenapa penderita lebih memilih penyembuhan penyakitnya ini dari rumah, yang diantaranya adalah :
    1. Malu
    Ada sejumlah besar rasa malu yang terkait dengan semua PMS, salah satunya adalah kutil kelamin ini. Untuk alasan inilah mungkin anda ingin menyingkirkan kutil kelamin secepat mungkin tanpa harus memberitahu siapa pun, dan hal ini adalah wajar dan dapat dimengerti.
    2. Privasi
    Pekerjaan anda mungkin yang berhubungan dengan kantor atau dokter, sehingga ingin menyimpan penyakit ini dari catatan medis Anda.
    3. Waktu
    Mengobati penyakit ini dari rumah memang lebih efektif rasanya di jaman sekarang. Anda mungkin harus menunggu beberapa minggu untuk janji dokter dan kemudian harus kembali untuk banyak menindaklanjuti perawatan. Tapi jika anda menyembuhkan penyakit kutil Anda ini di rumah, perawatan dapat dilakukan lebih segera.

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  84. Anonymous6:17 PM

    jual obat de Nature Indonesia ampuh dan herbal Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 442 0060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249.Dari namanya saja kita sudah tahu bahwa pengertian dari penyakit ini adalah pertumbuhan kutil yang terjadi pada organ vital atau alat kelamin manusia dengan mengidap penyakit yang seperti ini tentunya juga akan membuat penderitanya merasa sangat malu hingga bisa juga
    berujung dengan frustasi maka dari hal itu bisa disimpulkan bahwa konsekuensi dari penyakit ini bukan hanya dapat berdampak pada fisik tetapi juga emosi penderitanya Menyangkut masalah emosi ini maka paling utama yang dipertaruhkan adalah hubungan seksual penderita dengan pasanganya Jika
    sudah begitu maka apa lagi hal paling utama yang harus dilakukan selain dengan pengobatan yang ampuh Penjelasan di atas sedikit banyak juga sudah menyiratkan arti bahwa penyakit ini disebabkan oleh hubungan seksual atau seks oral yang pernah dilakukan penderita terhadap
    orang yang terinfeksi dan secara lebih khusus lagi dikatakan bahwa penyebab utama penyakit ini adalah virus HPV atau human papillomavirus yang sangat menular Ada banyak jenis HPV yang diduga menjadi penyebab terjadinya penyakit ini dan sekali lagi kami katakana bahwa
    pengobatan secara dini adalah hal yang harus anda lakukan jika sedang terkena penyakit ini Khususnya jika penderita penyakit ini adalah wanita maka biasanya daerah pertumbuhan kutil terjadi di bagian vagina vulva atau perineum anus dan leher rahim Gejala yang terlihat
    pada penderita bukan hanya dari penampilan kutilnya saja yang seperti kembang kol tapi pertumbuhan kulit yang terjadi di sekitar anus dan daerah vagina ini juga akan dirasakan gatal atau sensasi terbakar oleh penderita gejala paling parah mungkin penderita akan
    mengalami perdarahan selama atau setelah hubungan seksual Perlu juga diketahui bahwa virus HPV ini tidak akan menimbulkan masalah kesuburan tetapi jika penderita mengidap penyakit kutil ini selama kehamilan maka akan sangat tidak nyaman dan berisiko Penderita yang sedang hamil juga
    tidak dianjurkan untuk mengkonsumsi obat atau menjalani prosedur medis kutil kelamin seperti penderita umumnya

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  85. Anonymous8:30 PM

    Cara herbal mengatasi kutil kelamin secara ampuh hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249. pertumbuhan kutil kelamin lebih sering terjadi dalam kelompok dan dapat terakumulasi menjadi ukuran yang lebih besar pada jaringan genital. Kutil juga sering kembali muncul setelah pengobatan, hal-hal itu tergantung pada faktor-faktor, seperti ukuran dan lokasi tempat pertumbuhan kutil. Untuk menyembuhkan penyakit kutil ini dapat diberlakukan dalam beberapa cara.
    Sedangkan penundaan berkepanjangan untuk mengobati penyakit ini dapat menyebabkan kutil semakin berakar dalam, anda juga perlu tahu bahwa setiap kutil itu sangat menular. Gejala yang dialami penderita mungkin terdiri dari beberapa letupan, dan jika penyakit ini tidak di obati untuk waktu yang lama maka ada kemungkinan kutil tersebut tidak merespon pengobatan oral atau topical, maka salah satunya jalan adalah melalui operasi. Maka mengetahui betapa rumitnya pengobatan penyakit ini seharusnya menerbitkan kesimpulan penting pada diri kita untuk mendapatkan perawatan infeksi genital secara dini, karena penyakit ini sangat menular dan mungkin anda dapat menyebarkan infeksi kepada orang lain.
    Karena banyak penderita yang malu terlibat dalam pembicaraan tentang penyakit kutil kelamin HPV ini, maka mayoritas penderita kutil kelamin laki-laki dan perempuan biasanya tidak tahu apa jenis perawatan tepat yang dapat digunakan untuk kutil tersebut, khususnya pengobatan yang dapat digunakan secara privasi rumah mereka. Selain itu juga diketahui bahwa apapun jenis pengobatan yang dicoba oleh setiap penderita penyakit ini, belum ada yang benar-benar ampuh untuk menyembuhkan penderita sampai semua virus penyakitnya hilang.

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  86. Anonymous6:20 AM

    Pengobatan herbal dengan menggunakan obat ampuh yang sudah terbukti khasiatnya de Nature Indonesia hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Penyakit kutil kelamin yang terjadi selama masa kehamilan dapat menjadi sumber keprihatinan paling utama bagi ibu hamil. Ada kemungkinan juga bahwa kutil kelamin selama kehamilan dapat diteruskan kepada bayi. Dan pilihan Pengobatan kutil kelamin untuk wanita hamil berbeda daripada yang tersedia untuk perempuan lain.
    Jika seorang wanita yang sedang hamil mengalami penyakit ini juga merasakan gejala yang lebih buruk. Hal ini utamanya dikarenakan sistem kekebalan tubuh penderita secara alami ditekan selama masa kehamilan ini, hingga membuat penderita lebih rentan terhadan virus dan infeksi. Akibatnya penderita mungkin menemukan bahwa kutilnya akan tumbuh lebih besar.
    Yang menjadi penyebab utamanya adalah human papillomavirus (HPV). Tapi mayoritas wanita hamil dengan riwayat HPV memiliki kehamilan yang sehat dan pengalaman melahirkan. Tapi yang paling ditakutkan karena virus ini dapat ditularkan sehingga penderita beresiko mengidapn kutil kelamin, dan wanita hamil yang mengalami penyakit ini bisa juga mengalami gangguan pada proses kehamilanya.

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  87. Anonymous7:47 PM

    sudah terbukti ampuh obat dari kami untuk merontokan kutil kelamin dengan cara memakai obat herbal dari de Nature Indonesia hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Penyakit Kutil kelamin adalah salah satu dari dua penyakit menular seksual yang paling sering menular, dan disebabkan oleh virus. Penyakit satunya lagi adalah herpes genital. Penyakit ini disebabkan oleh virus papiloma manusia sering disingkat sebagai HPV.
    Penyakit kutil seperti luka yang muncul ini juga disebut dengan nama kondiloma acuminate. Kutil tumbuh dengan ukuran kecil, tampak seperti daging berwarna di daerah genital dan anal. Dan penelitian menunjukkan bahwa 10-40% wanita yang aktif secara seksual terinfeksi HPV, meskipun kehadiran HPV ini pada penderita tidak selalu disertai dengan munculnya kutil kelamin.
    Jalur Penyebaran Kutil Kelamin
    Kutil kelamin menyebar melalui kontak langsung dengan orang yang terinfeksi, seperti melalui vagina, anal, atau oral seks. Sekitar enam puluh persen orang yang melakukan kontak seksual dengan penderita kutil kelamin akan mengalami gejala, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan semenjak
    hubungan intim.
    Virus papiloma masuk melalui lecet atau luka kecil di area kelamin yang terjadi selama aktivitas seksual. Setelah virus ini masuk, biasanya dibutuhkan sekitar tiga bulan untuk gejala pertama muncul, tetapi bisa juga memakan waktu lebih lama hingga bertahun-tahun.

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  88. Anonymous12:34 AM

    Bukltikan khasiatnya obat herbal kutil kelamin de Nature Indonesia untuk pemesanan hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Kutil kelamin laki-laki tentunya penyakit menular seksual yang sangat umum terjadi di kalangan laki-laki saja, khususnya yang aktif secara seksual atau memiliki pasangan seksual yang lebih dari satu. Hal-hal seperti ini yang bisa menjadi resiko peningkatan kesempatan untuk menderita penyakit ini. Kutil kelamin di sebabkan oleh virus yang dikenal sebagai virus papiloma manusia (HPV). Bahkan, HPV bertanggung jawab untuk semua jenis kutil. Penelitian juga membuktikan bahwa HPV terdiri dari lebih 40 jenis. Beberapa sumber bahkan melaporkan lebih dari itu. Anda juga harus tahu virus dapat ditularkan melalui kontak langsung atau tidak langsung. Jadi Anda mungkin Anda mungkin saja tidak tahu darimana penyakit ini berasal sehingga menghinggapi tubuh anda.
    Jika penyakit ini terjadi pada laki-laki, biasanya kondisi yang terjadi tidak seperti kondisi lainnya, penderita juga akan mengalami perubahan dalam kehidupan seksnya secara drastis. Kondisi ini kemudian menyebabkan penderita dihadapkan dengan banyak keputusan sulit, dan harus semakin berhati-hati jika mendapatkan mitra seksual baru. Artinya, jika Anda memiliki kontak seksual dengan pasangan yang terinfeksi, kemungkinan besar akan mengembangkan penyakit ini, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan. Karena itulah maka hal seperti ini yang harus sudah anda pikirkan dari sekarang, karena bisa saja anda mungkin tidak tahu sedang mengidap penyakit ini. Hal ini yang kemudian menyebabkan penyakit ini menyebar luas.

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  89. Anonymous5:41 AM

    Untuk menemukan jenis pengobatan kutil kelamin yang benar-benar ampuh, kita tentunya harus melakukan hal yang sama oleh banyak orang pada umumnya. Dimulai dengan mencari ke berbagai toko obat untuk menemukan berbagai jenis obat itu yang bisa dalam bentuk krim, salep, atau beberapa jenis cairan lain yang diterapkan pada kulit penderita yang terkena. Jika pilihan medis yang dipilih, maka penderita akan mendapatkan pengobatan topical medis. Tapi penderita juga terkadang tidak memahami betul tentang penyakit ini, hanya tahu bahwa penyakit ini sudah membuat mereka tidak nyaman dan ingin secepatnya hilang dari kulit mereka. Tapi jika berbagai usaha kita untuk menemukan pengobatan ini ternyata tidak memberikan hasil yang memuaskan maka keputusan selanjutnya yang dipilih sebelum terlambat adalah segera memeriksakan diri ke dokter supaya bisa langsung menerima pengobatan dengan resep yang terkontrol. Biasanya pada saat itulah pasien akhirnya tahu bahwa yang menjadi penyebab penyakitnya ini adalah virus Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) dan nama penyakit ini juga dikenal dengan penyakit kondiloma acuminatum. Virus tersebut masuk ke dalam tubuh penderita melalui hubungan seksual dan obat yang biasanya akan diberikan dokter adalah obat topical kulit.

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  90. Anonymous10:12 AM

    Siapa yang tidak tahu dengan penyakit yang cukup mengganggu satu ini? Yah, namanya adalah wasir.

    Namun, terkadang bila penyakit tersebut makin parah, maka hal tersebut tidak dapat diremehkan lagi. Bisa-bisa jiwa penderita yang mengalami hemoroid atau wasir tersebut akan terancam yang dikarenakan terjadi pendarahan secara terus menerus karena mengalami wasir yang berkepanjangan.

    wasir dibedakan menjadi 2 macam berdasarkan letaknya yaitu wasir jenis interna dan wasir jenis eksterna.

    Kali ini kita akan membahas tanda-tanda wasir. Bagi yang belum mengetehui tanda-tanda tersebut, sering mengejan, terlalu lama duduk di toilet, terlalu sering duduk atau berdiri, wanita hamil dan masih

    Nah, sekarang marilah kita bahas bagaimana tanda-tanda wasir. Tentunya setiap penyakit pastinya akan menunjukkan gejala-gejala tertentu, baik itu penyakit luar maupun penyakit dalam. Wasir pun demikian, wasir atau orang-orang banyak mengenalnya sebagai ambeien ini memiliki tanda-tanda atau gejala-gejala tertentu sehingga dapat diprediksi apakah orang tersebut mengalami wasir atau ambeien atau tidak.

    Tanda-tanda wasir yang terjadi pertama kali adalah seperti gatal-gatal yang terjadi di permukaan dubur atau anus, terkadang bisa juga terasa nyeri. Selain itu, terdapat lendir ataupun darah yang keluar bersama kotoran.
    Tanda-tanda wasir lainnya adalah seperti keluarnya tetesan darah segar yang bercampur dengan dubur setelah ituterdapat benjolan lunak yang terdapat di permukaan dubur. Pada orang yang menderita wasir yang parah, benjolan tersebut biasanya cukup besar dan diiringi dengan rasa nyeri di sekitar dubur sehingga penderita biasanya mengalami kesulitan duduk.

    Selain itu, terkadang ada pula tanda-tanda wasir yang sulit untuk dikenali karena tidak semua wasir biasanya menunjukkan keluhan-keluhan tersebut. Maka dari itu, lebih baik kita harus mecncegah daripada mengobati.

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  91. Anonymous8:51 AM

    Jika Anda mengidap kutil kelamin, tentunya penghapusan kutil kelamin ini adalah apa yang ada di pikiran Anda sepanjang hari. Kutil juga tidak berbahaya bagi kesehatan Anda sehingga pengobatanya adalah pilihan anda sendiri, apakah ingin obat kutil kelamin atau tidak. Bahkan sebagian ahli medis yang melihat penyakit anda ini belum sebegitu parah hanya menyarankan supaya anda membiarkan penyakit ini akan hilang dengan sendirinya. Tapi jika kita perduli dengan kesehatan tentunya akan berpikir untuk segera mengetahui cara mengobati kutil kelamin menghilangkan penyakit ini jika sudah menginfeksi tubuh kita, ciri kutil kelamin yang berbahaya. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249

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  92. Anonymous9:03 AM

    Kutil kelamin adalah penyakit yang sangat umum, dan bisa mempengaruhi lebih dari 5 juta pria, wanita dan anak-anak, seperti setiap tahun yang terjadi di Amerika Serikat. Penyakit ini memang jarang terjadi pada wanita yang sedang hamil, karena banyak penderita wanita yang mengalami penyakit ini setelah melahirkan. Tapi yang sangat disayangkan jika penyakit ini terjadi pada saat wanita sedang hamil tapi dia tidak pernah menyadari hal itu, dengan begitu maka akan ada kemungkinan penyakit akan terus berkembang menjadi lebih parah, satu-satunya jalan terbaik adalah dengan melakukan check up secara rutin, dan mencari penyebab kutil kelamin tersebut. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249
    Yang menjadi penyebab penyakit ini adalah Virus papiloma manusia (HPV) yang bisa menyerang siapa saja tanpa pandang bulu, termasuk wanita hamil. Dan obat kutil kelamin mungkin sulit untuk di temukan di apotik di daerah anda. Dan sesungguhnya wanita hamil memiliki resiko yang lebih besar jika terkena penyakit ini karena dapat mempengaruhi pertumbuhan janin yang sedang dikandungnya. Segera cari tahu apa ciri kutil kelamin tersebut. Tapi jangan khawatir karena di jaman sekarang ini, pengobatan kutil kelamin sudah dikenal secara meluas, intinya anda harus segera menghubungi dokter terdekat jika sudah terkena penyakit ini.

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