You know, I'm a big fan of The Daily Show and Colbert Report. But I can say that this is the first time that Bill Hicks -- who did not die, but transcended mortality -- out on the border between the Real universe and the Chaosium from whence the Cthulhic Horrors spring, way out there on the border where he fights the Creatures of Madness with Elvis's old six-shooters powered by his own prodigious sex magicks ...
This is the first time Hicks looked back over his shoulder at us and smiled.
That was.... *sniff* beautiful. Yes indeed, Bill would have been proud. I often wondered how he would have dealt with the current situation, but I figure he'd have had an aneurysm about ten months in....
ReplyDeleteWow. I assumed you were laying it on a bit thick with the Hicks love, but you were absolutely right. That was beautiful to watch.
ReplyDeleteKaboom! Baby's kickin'.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if he were still alive today would Hicks have mellowed out with age? I would hope not as I would fear a Hick's without anger might indicate some sense of complacence on his part of maybe a loss of hope.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I always wondered about, and maybe you could answer this from your time in standup Rogers, is that when I hear old Hicks CDs and such, I can't help but feel that Dennis Leary was just a blatant rip off of his sytle and rant minus the insight that accompanied Bill's observations. Would something like that be the equivalent of "Them's fighting words" in the standup community? To see your act and style debased for the masses.
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ReplyDeleteI can't really speak to that, but I do know that's a pretty common opinion among Hicks fans. It led to the circulation of this joke (or something like it):
Q: Why did Denis Leary become famous and Bill Hicks didn't?
A: No cure for cancer.
The better punchine is "Tony V", but that's another story. Let Rick Jenkins tell it to you.
ReplyDeleteStructurally, Leary and Hicks aren't that close. And I'l let Leary slde on a lot of stuff because ofThe Job
I just watched No Cure for Cancer with my wife this weekend, and let me tell you, I spent a *lot* of the time wanting to smack Denis Leary for his "being an ignorant American is good" routine (maybe it's an act to him, but it's shameless pandering and enabling to a lot of the audience) and even more so for his constant, overwrought, and unfunny use of irritating noises and stupid facial mugging.
ReplyDeleteIf Leary was ripping off Bill Hicks, he missed the point almost entirely. If anything, it was more like Bill Hicks through the filter of an attention-needy, high-school-level class clown.
This is not to say that I don't like anything that Leary has done, but No Cure for Cancer definitely hasn't aged well for me.
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ReplyDeletedid you see TDS' "British correspondent" report after the terrorist arrests? It was all pretty good, but when he veered into "our bodies are 75% water, only saunas beside the boarding area will render us safe" it achieved ecstasy.
And I miss Bill Hicks.
radiosilence, on youtube there is a video of St. Hicks on the "Dennis Miller Show" (yes, I hate that fuckin' sellout) where Miller asks Hicks about going over to London and says "Isn't Leary over there now?" and Hicks says "Yeah, well there about 5 years behind the times with comedy over there". Even Miller laughed at the obvious slam of Leary.
ReplyDeleteHicks was the greatest. Have all his CDs and both DVDs (theres a new biography of him out now I need to snag, too) and still can't get enough. Funny you mention Elvis because, like the unfortunates who refuse to believe Elvis is dead, Hicks is the one person that I just can't bring myself to accept that he is really gone. I think if Bill was still alive today, it all might've been too much for him not to strangle some chickenhawk wingnut and I wouldn't blame him.
My favorite (like asking me whats my favorite Beatles song or Duane Allman solo but..) is still the piece he does called "Arming the World" and plays the U.S. as Jack Palance in Shane "Pick up the gun!". Everyone is laughing along until he does his perfect gun blast sound effect and falls on the stage. Everyone gets quiet, its just overpowering.
Thanks for the great post as always.
it must be a bill hicks day, i came across this quote an hour before visiting here,
ReplyDeleteOn the theft of his material by Denis Leary: "I have a scoop for you. I stole his act. I camouflaged it with punchlines, and to really throw people off, I did it before he did."
umm... am I missing something? Here I was all set up for an archived recording of Hicks, and I get a sketch from last week's Daily Show. I mean, it was all right, but it's not Hicks. :(
ReplyDeleteI don't get the cult of Bill Hicks.
ReplyDeleteI saw a documentary about him a couple of years ago with enough clips from his various routines for me to decide he wasn't entertaining or funny.
That 9/11 line took some balls. But it was pulled off superbly, and the audience seemed to get it too (if a little hesitantly). I need to watch TDS more.
ReplyDeleteOn the Hicks/Leary thing, I'm well aware of the ripping off of some material (drugs, and smoking - the Jim Fix routine is almost verbatim) but I saw "No Cure For Cancer" years before I got a chance to see any Bill Hicks and it was dear to me for a very long time so no matter what hindsight says, I still love it. The difference I see though is while Leary was very funny, Hicks was just devastating, and in the end his comments stay with me longer overall.
I find now there's room in my life for both Bill and Denis. And for Rescue Me, I'll forgive a hell of a lot.
I love Bill Hicks, despite having seen Leary first. I thought Leary was great, till I discovered Hicks and realized where a bunch of his stuff came from. Just bought Hick's recently released Sane Man DVD, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet.
ReplyDeleteJoe Rogan, best known for Fear Factor, has some really good stand up, and is also a big fan of Hicks. He's laid into "weak minded joke thieves" like Leary, Williams and Mencia in several interviews, online and on radio.
[Speaking of, lately theres some audio clips making the rounds showing Dane Cook ripping off Louis CK. Can no one be original? Jesus...]
And yeah, that TDS clip is OUTSTANDING.
Bill Hicks is God: "The world is like a ride at an amusement park. And when you choose to go on it, you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: Is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, 'Hey – don't worry, don't be afraid ever, because this is just a ride ...' And we kill those people... It's just a ride."
Peter, it's one of those things you either pick up at the time or you miss out on. When you go through years of hearing the enthusiasm of others and then only see old clips, it's impossible to catch the feeling. Plus there's the experience of watching everyone who was, ahem, inspired by him after the fact, which makes you feel as though you've seen it all before when you look at it years later.
ReplyDeleteBut Hicks was a comedy god who died before he could mellow out or go crazy.
As funny as he was, when I think of Bill Hicks, "subtle" isn't an adjective that comes to mind.
ReplyDeleteThis segment, OTOH, was almost Swiftian.
Really sick thought: What if Hicks lived...and followed Dennis Miller after 9/11?
Lois Laneoff: X-ray vision? Can you see through my clothes?
Ubermensch: Ya! And through his, too. [ points at Jimmy Olstein ] He's a Jew!
(Y'all better be appreciative of that one; I ended up wading through freerepublic.com to get it.)
Man, that is fucking brilliant. I'm not familiar with the work of Bill Hicks, but he's Marc Maron's Comic Deity of Choice, and that's enough for me.
ReplyDeleteI found your site via a circuitous route and I'm glad I did. This is some fine stuff. I've added you to my blogroll, which may get you one or two more hits a day. :)
Bill Hicks was beyond his time; 12 years after his death and his comments on society are still rellevant. Pryor was the black king, Hicks was king hick. Both forever pioneers of free thought and expression.
ReplyDeleteHey... that guy fired Peter Parker!
ReplyDelete(Sorry to play spoilsport, but the clip seems not to be working this morning.)
ReplyDeleteIt appears that YouTube is doing some server maintenance. Even going to the main page gets you a rather amusing "please excuse our mess" page.
ReplyDeleteAnd Rogers, I agree that Hicks is smiling down on us from a higher plane. (I also agree with first responder Chris that, if Bill Hicks weren't already dead, this administration would have done him in.
No, not like that.)
Hicks on Hicks: "Like Chomsky, but with dick jokes."
ReplyDeleteOn the War on Drugs: "Your denial is beneath you & thanks to the use of hallucinogenic drugs, I see through you"
Hicks called Iraq 1.0 the "Persian Distraction", a hyped-up threat meant to take Americans' minds off domestic issues. Sound familiar?
Plus ca change.
I really wish Hicks was around today to weigh in, but barring that, I like John's interpretation.
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I searched for contact methods to Comedy Central, to demand that this become a regular feature. It was a masterwerk!
Excellent comparison to Bill Hicks. I miss him, I really do. I have wondered aloud what he might have to say about things lately, in that no-bullshit, straight-talking, sarcastic style that tended to slap you in the face--first to get your attention, then to wake you up.
Joe Rogan, best known for Fear Factor, has some really good stand up, and is also a big fan of Hicks. He's laid into "weak minded joke thieves" like Leary, Williams and Mencia in several interviews, online and on radio.
ReplyDeleteI really wish that criticism had come from another comedian, because Joe Rogan isn't that funny (outside of News Radio), has taken bits (if not full jokes) from Hicks, and is responsible for Fear Factor. Is there any doubt that Hicks would savage Rogan for conceiving and hosting Fear Factor?
I have to believe that when Rogan heard Hicks's bit about "if you do a commercial, you're off the artistic roll call forever" he read that in the most literal way possible. He told himself that since he wasn't actually doing any commercials, it would have been perfectly okay with Hicks that he was doing Fear Factor.
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ReplyDeleteThe entire parody was brilliant!
ReplyDeleteYou don't think Bill Hicks was influenced by other comedians and never 'pinched' an idea for a joke?
It has all been done before.
I have more respect for people who acknowledge their influences than the ones who think they invented the g****** wheel but arrogance and genius seem to go hand in hand.
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