One of my favorites of the year for a variety of reason, not the least of which being Bex and Alicia Witt. Post your comments, questions and half-baked theories below.
So if LeFay just walked through the door of the Library, could anyone? Or was it because she is LeFay? Do folks often just walk in the door and find Jenkins?
So...Cassie holds onto a little bit of magic at the end of Fables of Doom, then she has a line about how it's maybe a little too easy for her to figure out the magic under the table in this episode, and then a famously powerful sorceress shows up at a STEM fair and physically resembles Cassie a whole lot. Anything we should be taking from that?
1) did she call him Taliesin? A bard *would* make a pretty super librarian . . . Sounded more like "Thaleus" though maybe . . .
2) Baird sure is the conduit for a lot of incredibly strong magic. I can't wait to find out some of the stuff you guys have in mind for these characters. Also I love her with Flynn and I really hope he's sticking around. This and Falling Skies are both only part-year, right? Right?
3) that said, if I asked nicely, would Baird marry me? Jk. But really. Lol, not really. But really.
4) SO excited to have so much of the Leverage team back making TV magic!
Thanks for the rundown of the ep order! I'm a huge continuity buff and while the eps do work out of order mostly, I wish this had been in the same order before the finale with the whole "loom of fate" business. With that being said and I bet most of this is gonna get a "spoiler" but if we get a second season will the King Arthur stuff with Galahad/Dulaque (who I don't know enough about Arthurian history to guess who he could be) continue? Because that was an awesome "She called him WHAT" moment. Thanks!
First, OMG (and I NEVER use that acronym) but this was fantastic. Loved the little bits that Stone and Cassandra got to reveal. And yeah, we definitely got a great candidate for another LIT.
Was Baird protected by the pentagram? Or does she have a rule of 3 coming? And how does Dulac (and Morgan herself) avoid some serious rule of 3 feedback?
And a question I'm sure you won't answer - is Jenkins Merlin?
If this episode doesn't result in Emmy nominations, There Ain't No Justice.
The mom-using-magic-so-her-daughter-can-win reminded me of the episode "Witch" back in season 1 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Coincidence that both daughters were named Amy?
Also, props to the props people for using an Android (or at least Android-esque) phone; somehow A.L.B. doesn't seem like it'd pass Apple's app store review, and would have to be sideloaded. :)
@alliem: Just to save Mr R a bit of time, subtitles showed it as "Galeas". Which a bit of quick Googling revealed as an alternate name of Galahad, the son of Lancelot du Lac (who was in turn the son of Ban) and knight of the Round Table. This is why I leave the subtitles on. :)
What direction was Critter given for Cassandra? I find her costuming... unrealistic for well, anyone. Everyone else seems true to character. But of am often doing a 'WTF is she wearing!!!'
These ideas are not completely mine and are in fact from a conversation on Twitter I had earlier after the episode, but Galeas is the nickname of Sir Galahad of the Round table, and Lancelot's full name is "Lancelot Du Lac" So, am I and my accomplices in figuring things out, on the right track? However, what could possibly turn Lancelot to do so much bad? After all, trying to destroy the Library? Trying to kill Santa? The Arthurian legends, the worst Lancelot did was sleep with Guenevere who was his true love. He was faithful to her, and he did good for the round table, even if his affair did cause an end to Arthur's reign. So what could have changed in the last thousand years to cause such a change in character? Am I going to get the word SPOILER thrown at me for bringing this up?
Fantastic episode!! I loved Morgan Le Fay, my question is what did she call Jenkins? I'm assuming you can't tell us what that means for Spoiler reasons, but can you tell us the name?
This was a fun ep - seeing Cassie in her element and being so psyched by all the science projects. Lindy was great!
So, we know Cassie is super smart - tonight she even mentions all the trophies she won before getting the tumor - so would she still be Librarian material without her tumor? Any chance magic can cure her tumor and still leave her capable of the cool visualization stuff, but maybe so she can do it on command, instead of it being there all the time?
And I'm not sure if this is standing out for me because of the order the eps are airing in, but this is at least the second time that Jones has discovered something and the others haven't thought it important (the girl in the hospital from 'Fables' and now the levitating ball from the Newton's cradle). "Cassandra" is the prophet cursed so no one believes her in Greek Mythology - but here it seems to be Jones in that role. Coincidence? Intentional? Significant?
Aside from all the girl-swooning you caused by having Kane read poetry, I just wanted to comment on how he recited it, with choice pauses and words emphasized - I don't think I've ever heard that poem recited like that before. Did he do multiple takes of the recitation and, if so, did he do it a few different ways? And, if yes, will you put the outtakes on the DVD?
So, about midway through the episode I was like "ah, they're going to figure out how to disrupt everything and Morgana won't get her magic boost and then she'll wither and die or something."
Now, I like how things ended, but it makes me curious why you ended it the way you did.
Also, Cassie is definitely getting pretty good at magic.
Any chances we'll get to hear more about those otherworlds in season 2? Assuming there is one anyway.
That was a really fantastic episode. I loved Cassandra fangirling.
So if Jenkins is Galahad, that means he's Lancelot du Lac's son, and if Dulaque is Lancelot... OMG! This is going to be awesome!
Three questions, now: 1. Did a past Librarian ever crossed paths with Morgan Le Fay? 2. Does Jenkins coming to work for the Library have anything to do with Morgan? 3. Is Morgan's "Fear the hero" about Flynn? Might he go too far to recover the Library?
So, I'm watching "Power of Three" on DVR, but before I jump into "Heart of Darkness", I flip over to where one of my local Iowa stations is running "The Boiler Room Job" ep of Leverage . First commercial break I get, they run a PSA for the state STEM group, talking about upcoming events including the state Science Fair. Hope ours doesn't turn out like Chicago did.....
Q: 1a. Baird and the rule of 3. Did she used magic to harm or just to wish that the tables were equal between her and Morgana? 1b. and does that related to Morgana saying she was now woven into the Loom of Fate?
@MacSTL - re: Cassandra's clothes... social awkward nerd wear? The kind of clothes someone might wear who didn't get to hang out much with her own age/social group and instead only adults, so she perhaps had only her parents/family as a pattern for what to wear? She really does have a spinster aunt vibe at times. Soooo much cutesy floral and pastel.
Cassie does seem to really be embracing the magical side of things. Given how her mind parses science, it really doesn't seem to be a stretch to see her do the same for magic. I'd like to see the tumor cured, but I'm not in any hurry. Also that girl really does have a few issues she needs to work through.
@Eri Smith re: Lancelot & Galeas(Galahad) (Good guess on who picked that earlier) I would personally be fucking amazed that any relationship could last a thousand years unchanged, especially given the kind of stresses Jenkins little speech at the end of Apple of Discord hinted at. People change. Especially maybe if someone has an ideal or goal they're chasing over the well being of normal people. That might really warp someone.
Less questions, more theory: Le Fey warned to be wary of Heroes, not Villains, and she sounded like she was running scared. If DuLaque was once Lancelot then he could well still be considered a Hero? What did Lancelot traditionally want? Gwenhwyfar, Arthur? Could he be working to ressurrect either or both of them? Since it's not like Lancelot doesn't have a history of being obsessed with chasing something, far beyond where Sanity might otherwise prevail.
..Cue Obligatory girl swoon here for Kane reciting Byronic poetry. First Yeats, now Byron...*siiiiigh* She walks in beauty, like the night Of cloudless climes and starry skies; And all that’s best of dark and bright Meet in her aspect and her eyes; It's not like I don't already have massive love for the Librarians as a show, but it's when you brilliant nutcases, fairly shamelessly use Poetry to show Jake Stone as the dead sexy, intelligent geek he is is just ....(happy place sigh) And then having him do so in order to reach out to a troubled kid, was just an extra cherry on a general topping of Kane awesomeness. Actually his entire speech about costumes and roles was eloquent and heartfelt.
Not to mention his opening line, "I have access to every art portfolio in History. Where else would I be?" Not that it was much of a stretch, but you pretty much took my headcanon out of my head and dumped it all over the screen.
3. Sorry, lost track if this has been asked before, but just how good is Jake Stone at compartmentalising his life, and are we ever going to see both halves come crashing together at all?
4. Are we ever going to see something seriously shake up Ezekiels almost superhuman self confidence? I'm always torn between laughing my arse off at Ezekiel, and wanting to smack him over the head. ...and for whoever asked what kind of parent calls a kid Ezekiel? Asian parents for who english is a second language, trust me, he got off pretty lightly. Or ónes who are devout Christians.
As a librarian who spent most of high school at the science fairs -- with a geology project, no less (not a volcano, though) -- this episode had to be about the best thing ever. Thank you!
Normally, librarians wouldn't judge at a science fair at that level (I know, because I'd love to judge, but alas, I'm not qualified). Did Morgan just not care about the judging, or did she figure out who they were when they introduced themselves and figure that she might as well keep them around to get caught up in the rule of three?
Loved the way that everybody had a day off, but still ended up doing some kind of work at the library. (Except Ezekiel) Please don't tell me he finally got around to using the magic door of the Annex for a bank robbery. I have a really bad feeling about the sirens in the background and the package he was holding. At the scene when Baird was dangling Morgan le Fay over the guardrail, why didn't she just shoot her in the head or something, and then go rescue the kids? It doesn't take that much time to shoot somebody, does it? Was Jenkins being overdramatic in the last scene with Baird, or is the whole 'the end is nigh' thing really true? What happens to Amy afterwards? Does she just go back to her normal life knowing that magic is real? Please tell me that she becomes one of the junior l.i.t your mentioned earlier. Loved that scene where Stone is talking about wearing costumes to hide yourself. And last, but definitely not the least, the big question....So is Jenkins Galahad and Dulaque Lancelot? Are they really father and son?
Another great episode. Whoever made the choice to have Christian Kane recite my favorite Byron poem has my everlasting love. Wish he could have recited the whole thing.
This episode was great! My question: I know you've said we'll see Jake's family in S2 if the show gets renewed -- any chance of seeing Cassandra or Ezekiel's family as well at some point?
Hopefully by the time this gets to be answered we will have a second season announced.
1. how likely are we in season 2 to get a person from a characters past show up and cause complications. My choice would be Stones as my Kaniac heart craves more back story and angsty looks.
2. will there be an annex within the annex for all the jr lits. who will be their guardian. Poor Jenkins
I thought I saw the 7 on Jake's back also; he would do that in "Leverage" . I suspect it is from his song and album "House Rules" ( Rule number 7 you don't touch the women but they can touch whatever they want ). Still waiting to see what special talent/ability Stone brings the group; seems to be mostly Jones and Cassandra coming up with solutions and saving the day
1) I *adore* Ezekiel! He seems like he's starting to warm up to the folks around him (I mean, stealing a trophy for Cassandra bc she didn't have any?!). Methinks that he's more human than any of them (or even he) realize(s).
2. Any particular reason why Cassandra was wearing a seratonin necklace? Or was that the costuming department being awesome again?
3. The use of Byron was adorable.
4. Man, the tension between LeFay and Jenkins was palpable. Alicia Witt does a freaking incredible job--I can't wait to see her if/when she comes back. My question, though, is whether or not there will be some epic showdown between she and Jenkins and/or she and Baird?
5. "Fear the hero," eh? Maybe the hero's trying to maintain the status quo when he really shouldn't be? (It seems to me as though the artifacts are particularly dangerous *because* they're concentrated magic. If this status quo were lessened [or gotten rid of entirely], would it decrease their power [and maybe the need for a Librarian]?)
Thanks for the wonderful ep (science-y folks, unite!) and for answering all of us. :)
So we leave closed captioning on because we're all doing different things on different screens, and it helps to be able to read as much as listen. Every once in a while, closed captioning misses a line. It happens.
But in this episode, it missed the line when Morgan named Jenkins.
This episode was a bit of a PTSD flashback for me. I can't tell you how many of those things I got roped into judging in grad school. I also had a fair number of summer high school students that I had to mentor so they could make those stupid projects. For realz though, those parents be crazy.
So questions...
1) Thanks for the answers in the last post. After I posted, I realized that the black mask was mentioned in the Horns of Dilemma too. Related to that observation, I was wondering if you had started filming episodes prior to choosing a new direction or did you have to pull things in post?
2) Why was the spell screen the visualization from Windows media player?
3) This may be more of a writing process question. Were Cassandra's and Stone's interactions with their respective kids intended to be extensions of themselves or were they projecting themselves onto the kids?
I was going to ask you to spell Galeas for me, but the other commenters covered that one for me.
Observations...
1) Yay for Bex Taylor-Klaus! I always thought that she was grossly underutilized on Arrow.
2) I hate to say it, but I kind of like this better than stealing a science fair.
3) Whomever coined the term "mathemagics" has earned a cold alcoholic beverage on me.
Can we get Amy Meyers back in the future as another Librarian In Training? Because she was seriously wonderful.
Alicia Witt was also wonderful, and I had a fun bit of deja vu when I googled her and discovered that she played Alia in the David Lynch DUNE movie.
You mentioned in a previous post that magic "doesn't work on Jenkins", but clearly Morgana's the exception. Have we seen magic pointedly not work on Jenkins? If so, I've missed it.
Who wrote the "Otters are evil bastards" bit? I nearly fell out of my chair for that.
Kane has a strength/facility with playing opposite children that is very similar (in my opinion) to Matt Smith's. Is that something you keep in mind when writing eps that will have children in them?
Considering the episodes airing out of order, with both Fables and Heart coming before Midnight Ride and Apple, in regards to Jake's much warmer attitude towards her is it safe to say that Jake does trust Cassandra again by Santa's Midnight Ride or is that something that's still coming up or is it just never gonna happen? What can I say, I'm invested in their relationship or lack there of.
Also, I don't know if it's a thing, but I appreciate how similar Cassandra is to Willow Rosenberg, both redheaded mathematical geniuses with bubbly personalities who are perhaps very gifted when it comes to magic.
And judging by what Morgan called Jenkins, if he is Galahad, why would he say 'whatever it is we were' to Dulaque? I mean, that would make Dulaque his dad wouldn't it? Unless Jenkins stopped seeing Dulaque as his father a long time ago.....
Thanks for the invitation to post half-baked theories!
The idea that, with enough built-up magic, Morgan Le Fay can visit other realms was an interesting reveal, especially after she imparted her message about the hero being more a worry than the villain.
Hmmm... the Library is cut off from Earth, but perhaps it might be accessible from other worlds? So someone who builds up a scary amount of magical power could use it to get to the Library. Flynn, the hero, seems pretty desperate to get back - perhaps desperate enough to experiment with magic that could have dangerous, even catastrophic risks? That might make a hero scarier than a villain.
I like the idea of Cassandra's grasp of equations making her a good fit for handling magic.
You mentioned in a prior blog post that we were going to be meeting someone soon who was 'good at opening doors' in reference to the Library being locked away/lost.
I think I know where Morgan Le Fay is planning to go to hide. Or at least, if I was her, I would be thinking about catching up on some reading. (Assuming, of course, that she's expecting Flynn to do something asinine and Ragnarokesque to get back into the Library. If she expects it to fail, then inside the Library is about as safe as one could be.) The real question to me is how much, and what, she learned from being in the Annex. I'm guessing she's drawn some conclusions based on the fact that there's a Guardian and three Librarians running about, none of whom were Flynn. (Loved her "oh, you're a Guardian. Should I speak slower?")
It'll be interesting to see where things go with Jenkins/Galahad and Dulaque/(Lancelot?). I'm not 100% convinced that Dulaque isn't Mordred or possibly even Merlin, partially because Lancelot is a bit more straightforward than I would anticipate.
It seems from the comments that a fair number of people didn't listen carefully enough to Jenkins' explanation of the Rule of Three, because he says that any magic harm you do 'with malicious intent' (or something to that effect, I forget the exact line) comes back on you threefold. Using magic to level the playing field and allow you to harm someone in pursuit of protecting innocents is hardly malicious intent, and if anything I'd say Eve would have had a positive boost in store for her but that probably got burned helping their Key of Farraday defense work.
Big fan of mathemagics. Might I also suggest cryptonunciation and/or archeaovocabulary as fields of magical research?
Bex's "Magic is real?" bit gave me such a surge of sympathetic joy that I actually teared up a tiny bit. If I were in Amy's place I don't think I'd have been able to say much other than make excited squee noises.
Lord Byron is always nice, but I felt that Jake talking about how he wore his costume too well for too long was more touching. (On the subject of poetry somewhat less overused and at least as potentially applicable, might I suggest/request that someone use part of Robert E Howard's "Recompense" at some point?)
1. Who came up with all the science projects -- both the ideas and the presentations? Did you hijack a local STEM competition?
2. I did not even recognize Detective Falacci. (L&O:Criminal Intent was the spiritual predecessor of Elementary, up until it became the Let's Torment Goren show.) I liked how she had such a light touch with that air of amusement -- and that she could send Jenkins into a panic.
3. Jenkins and his free will -- how much does he leave the team dangling so they figure stuff out for themselves, and how much does he boost them along so they finish up and he can go back to his "real" work?
Given Jenkin's obvious connection to Dulac (and now Morgan Le Fay), I find it strange that no one has had the "What are you not telling us?" talk with him yet. Is it safe to assume that's coming up soon?
Related question: How much does Flynn know about Jenkins? Does he know more than we do? (Does the library have an employment file with his resume, which someone could check?)
Lancelot did more than have an affair with Guenevere. He made war on Arthur. That having been said, sleeping with the queen was no small matter. In those days, the king and queen were the state. Sleeping with the queen had political implications, because it could affect the line of succession. So, Lancelot was guilty of treason on two counts.
On the other hand, Lancelot was the queen's champion, so he had a duty to protect her. When Guinevere faced execution, Lancelot had to choose between breaking his oath to Arthur (who he had, in fact, already betrayed) and his oath to Guinevere. That seems to fit Jenkin's statement ("a very... complicated situation").
There's another, much more subtle possibility. According to some versions of the legend, "Galahad" was Lancelot's original birth name, as well as his son's. So, it could possibly be that Jenkins is the real Lancelot and Dulaque is an imposter. That seems to be somewhat of a reach, however, especially since the fairy vouchsafed him as the son of (King) Ban. Lancelot was raised by fairies, so they should know. (Then again, fairies are known to lie.)
I was surprised by Cassandra's audible curse when the cloud of flies came out of the student. Was that intentional, or was the sound of the buzzing supposed to effectively bleep it out, but didn't?
Galeas and Dulaque, eh? Well, this could be fun figuring out how Judson and Charlene fit in. Arthur and Guinevere? Although ... hmmm, Charlene used to be a Guardian, you've said, and Merlin often kind of acted as Arthur's Guardian so maybe there's a little gender-bending here and Charlene is Merlin to Judson's Arthur? Though I don't recall, from my reading of the stories, Merlin ever pestering anyone for receipts...
Does the mathemagics have any relation to Fletcher Pratt and L. Sprague De Camp's Harold Shea series of books which have been described as "a high point in the application of sternest intellectual logic to screwball fantasy" and used symbolic logic to travel between various fantasy lands?
I'm not sure whether I should thank you or something else for what you did to my heart when Christian Kane started reciting my favorite poem of all time. Even without that bit, that scene between Stone and the kid was beautiful and I loved it.
How does the back door work from the outside? For example, Flynn came into the annex through the back door (and didn't apparently know it was even working?!) and now Jones has done the same thing. They don't have access to Jenkin's globe-mechanism-thing from outside the annex, presumably, so how do they work the door without it? Or, if that mechanism doesn't work the door, what does?
Hi- First I am loving the show and really hope it gets picked up for more seasons. My question is that if Cassandra "was" Merlin and still had a spark of magic wouldn't Morgan have been able to sense it at the science fair? Or maybe she was busy concentrating on her own plans for the feedback loop that was coming.
So, according to this episode, saying the "absolute truth" means admitting we're a little too in love with Eve Baird. Well, I think my incessant fawning over her is evidence enough hehe But really, her underdog pep talk is inspiring. Combine that with Rebecca's opal eyes, no wonder Leonard hears a thousand angels singing when she's talking to him. And she must have done baking soda volcanoes back in school.
1. The desk was the first thing I noticed! She's able to use it without all the usual clutter - they're there but she has more space for her research. 2. None of them takes the day off, right? Jenkins has an idea Ezekiel uses the Backdoor for not Librarian purposes but he isn't surprised with it, how cute. Do they even have a separate housing near the Annex or did they all decide to inhabit the place (which I'm supposing has larger spaces than what we've been shown)? 3. When was Eve woven into the Loom of Fate, when she dabbled with the Rule of Three or when she was chosen as the Guardian by the Library? Isn't it amazing she's the first to get Morgan Le Fay off guard in a long time ~wooh~ I remember one of your answers a few episodes back about why a specific letter for a Guardian whereas thousand potentials for the Librarian that implies that Baird's role is quite important (or I dare say even more important than Flynn's) in the grander scheme of things. 4. Speaking of roles, I like this parallel between Jenkins and Eve. She's reiterating she's not here to kill and I think it says a lot how she's come a long way to the point she has a much clearer grasp on why she's the Guardian and what she's supposed to do in the face of the whole magic returning to world. Also, drunk Jenkins seems not his usual chill self, there's palpable fear about the implication of meeting Morgan Le Fay. Last saw him react similarly was with Dulaque - can't wait to see the finale to see what it all means~ 5. Oh and Morgan isn't fazed with Eve's power, she looks delighted too. And a smidge turned on even when she could be dropped from that ledge, I'm not sure. Her presence in the STEM Fair though, it's as if she counted on the Librarians coming in and their actions going according to her plans. Creepy.
Was Morgan Le Fay mentioned in the one of the other Librarian episodes? I'm rewatching the movies because I could swear I heard the name before in one of them
One comment on Mathmagics - some 40 years ago, I recall seeing a 1959 educational film made by Disney called "Donald in Mathmagic Land." Granted, it was aboutmthe magic of math, but the phrase is over 50 years old....
Assuming Jenkins is Galahad and Dulaque is Lancelot, are Arthurian characters they "real" persons in the Librarian universe? Or are they members of the Guild of Fictional Entities (mentioned during the Apple episode)?
If they are fictional entities, that might explain why they're so hard to kill. (To paraphrase a line from the first movie, "It takes more than a fall to the ground to destroy a legend.")
Will the DVD be in the correct order - like the Leverage S1 was?
About the otters (and perhap this has already been addressed), I believe jonrog had some link on a tweet about the evil side of otters. I think that display came from him!
A friend suggested I might enjoy this show, and now The Librarians is my favorite tv show! (I really hope TNT renews it for multiple seasons, or at the very least, Season 2. So, a few random inquiries. None of them are really centered around Jenkins (I honestly adore him/John Larroquette. The way he sing-songed 'the laws of physics are starting to bend' was awesome, as was his mini-speeches about having free will (something picked up from getting yelled at be Ezekiel, maybe?) and the miracles of soda), since you're probably going to classify any answers to those as having spoilers. Grrr.... 1.) Are we ever going to learn more about Ezekiel's past? So far, there's been a few revelations about Eve's, Cassandra's, Jenkins', and Stone's pasts, but not really anything about Ezekiel's. According to one of your earlier posts, he got the Library's letter when can we a teenager. Was he already a their then, or did he become one later, and if so, what happened for him to go down that path? And does he have any family? I'm not sure if it's just me, but I felt like Ezekiel's speech to Jenkins in 'the Apple of Discord' about choices and being a coward touched some personal issue(s) for him. 1b)Ezekiel's my favorite LIT, but even I admit that he's a bit....abrasive, for lack of a better term, to the team in the beginning. Did the writers decide at the beginning to write Ezekiel that way, or is that all John Kim? But now we see him stealing a trophy for Cassandra to make her feel better. What brought about this attitude adjustment? Exactly when/why/how did he 'allegedly' hack the NSA?
2.) Why did was the magic app needed for setting up the 'five-side Tesla coil field'? Wouldn't the rule of three have gotten really wonky for them since they were using the app to counteract the effects of the app? On a side note, since all of them were outside of the center of the giant pentagram, why weren't they blown up? 2b.) What's up with the little yellow glowing bits of code in the app? Didn't know there was a font/color for writing code for granting magical wishes. Couldn't le Fay have written it normally, or was it left deliberately like that to let us viewers know something was seriously hinky?
3.)So does Stone trust Cassandra now? I mean, when she had the plan for creating the Faraday's cage, he let her take the lead without can hesitation. There hasn't been the 'I like you, but don't trust you' speech from Stone for a while now, so has he gotten over the whole betrayal thing.
4.) I'm going to break my own rules on asking about Jenkins here, but it's not that bad? Isn't Jenkins being sort of hypocritical to Baird when he berates her for not having killing Morgan le Fay, given that in 'Horns of a Dilemma' he said the library chose her for more of a reason than to kill?
5.)What exactly is the Loom of Fate? And when le Fay says 'you've already been woven into the loom of fate' is she specifying Baird, or the Library and everybody associated with it? On that note, did Baird tell anyone other than Jenkins about her and le Fay's little side conversion? Are the LITs aware that the world is about to end?
6.) What's Lamia's stake in all of the this? And for that matter, Dulaque's? Neither of them seem to be the type to destroy the world for the fun of it. And Santa's spiel about Lamia secretly wanting to be a good guy seems weird for how devoted she is to Dulaque. My headcanon at the moment is that Lamia had some kind of connection with the Library at some point, before everything went to hell, and then she vowed vengeance and joined up with Dulaque to reach it. Maybe the Library could have helped somebody she cared about with magic, but didn't because of the rules?
A) @NeilJasper double Spoiler answers to your questions. I think that makes you King of the LibrariFans.
B) MORGAN LE FAY!!!!!!!
C) I want to hear the rest of the sea otter speech. Are they evolving into that furry thing from The Mile High Job?
D) Leonard falling in love with Baird was hilarious! A thousand-million humour points.
1) Wait. I thought you said Jenkins was immune to magic. Is it just her? Or is it something like the Power of the Name? She can affect him because she knows who he is?
2) Is their introduction "We're/I'm the Librarian(s)" the magical equivalent of psychic paper?
E) I love the way Baird is just now starting to understand that not all the bad guys have the same motives. Le Fay is not Dulaque. Not everybody wants to rule the world. Apple!Eve did though, so that might be where it's coming from.
'm always torn between laughing my arse off at Ezekiel, and wanting to smack him over the head. ...and for whoever asked what kind of parent calls a kid Ezekiel? Asian parents for who english is a second language, trust me, he got off pretty lightly. Or ónes who are devout Christians.
Well, actually Ezekiel Jones actually suggests an adoption, possibly by devout Christians. Might be parent issues there....
This is where the UK drops behind as SyFyUK keeps to that antique scheduleof one show a week. It's like living in the stone age. So here's my final real-time question of the season: What's the myth/legend/story/thingy you most want to do, but can't for whatever reason (budget/intellectual property/tone/too dumb/too awesome)?
So I feel stupid for having to ask, but A.L.B.? Does that stand for something that the general viewing audience should already know? ie How did Cassandra look at those letters and immediately know it was a 'magical app'?
Jenkins said in "Horns of a Dilemma" that the back door doesn't stay open very long. So how did Morgan le Fay go through it to the Annex a good while after the LITs arrived at the STEM fair. Also, the announcer said this was the sixth annual fair. So if le Fay's purpose was to gather magical energy, why didn't she do it at the beginning, instead of waiting six years to release her magical app?
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I'm very happy to not own a smart phone!
Original draft: "Science works, bitches"?
"Galeas"?
Sneaky.... and very suggestive. Especially where Dulaque comes in.
I am glad I don't own a smartphone!!!
so....Arthurian legend huh?
So where are the actual judges during all this?
So if LeFay just walked through the door of the Library, could anyone? Or was it because she is LeFay? Do folks often just walk in the door and find Jenkins?
So Galahad, okay. And putting Morgan le Fay in green, very nice touch. :-) Critter is knocking it out of the park.
So...Cassie holds onto a little bit of magic at the end of Fables of Doom, then she has a line about how it's maybe a little too easy for her to figure out the magic under the table in this episode, and then a famously powerful sorceress shows up at a STEM fair and physically resembles Cassie a whole lot. Anything we should be taking from that?
Costuming/wardrobe question ... Did I really see Payless beige patent leather pumps on Morgan le Fey? (I am pretty sure I own the same shoes!)
1) did she call him Taliesin? A bard *would* make a pretty super librarian . . . Sounded more like "Thaleus" though maybe . . .
2) Baird sure is the conduit for a lot of incredibly strong magic. I can't wait to find out some of the stuff you guys have in mind for these characters. Also I love her with Flynn and I really hope he's sticking around. This and Falling Skies are both only part-year, right? Right?
3) that said, if I asked nicely, would Baird marry me? Jk. But really. Lol, not really. But really.
4) SO excited to have so much of the Leverage team back making TV magic!
Is Sin trying to clone Black Canary?
Thanks for the rundown of the ep order! I'm a huge continuity buff and while the eps do work out of order mostly, I wish this had been in the same order before the finale with the whole "loom of fate" business. With that being said and I bet most of this is gonna get a "spoiler" but if we get a second season will the King Arthur stuff with Galahad/Dulaque (who I don't know enough about Arthurian history to guess who he could be) continue? Because that was an awesome "She called him WHAT" moment. Thanks!
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First, OMG (and I NEVER use that acronym) but this was fantastic. Loved the little bits that Stone and Cassandra got to reveal. And yeah, we definitely got a great candidate for another LIT.
Was Baird protected by the pentagram? Or does she have a rule of 3 coming? And how does Dulac (and Morgan herself) avoid some serious rule of 3 feedback?
And a question I'm sure you won't answer - is Jenkins Merlin?
If this episode doesn't result in Emmy nominations, There Ain't No Justice.
The mom-using-magic-so-her-daughter-can-win reminded me of the episode "Witch" back in season 1 of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Coincidence that both daughters were named Amy?
Also, props to the props people for using an Android (or at least Android-esque) phone; somehow A.L.B. doesn't seem like it'd pass Apple's app store review, and would have to be sideloaded. :)
@alliem: Just to save Mr R a bit of time, subtitles showed it as "Galeas". Which a bit of quick Googling revealed as an alternate name of Galahad, the son of Lancelot du Lac (who was in turn the son of Ban) and knight of the Round Table. This is why I leave the subtitles on. :)
What direction was Critter given for Cassandra? I find her costuming... unrealistic for well, anyone. Everyone else seems true to character. But of am often doing a 'WTF is she wearing!!!'
These ideas are not completely mine and are in fact from a conversation on Twitter I had earlier after the episode, but Galeas is the nickname of Sir Galahad of the Round table, and Lancelot's full name is "Lancelot Du Lac" So, am I and my accomplices in figuring things out, on the right track? However, what could possibly turn Lancelot to do so much bad? After all, trying to destroy the Library? Trying to kill Santa? The Arthurian legends, the worst Lancelot did was sleep with Guenevere who was his true love. He was faithful to her, and he did good for the round table, even if his affair did cause an end to Arthur's reign. So what could have changed in the last thousand years to cause such a change in character? Am I going to get the word SPOILER thrown at me for bringing this up?
Fantastic episode!! I loved Morgan Le Fay, my question is what did she call Jenkins? I'm assuming you can't tell us what that means for Spoiler reasons, but can you tell us the name?
This was a fun ep - seeing Cassie in her element and being so psyched by all the science projects. Lindy was great!
So, we know Cassie is super smart - tonight she even mentions all the trophies she won before getting the tumor - so would she still be Librarian material without her tumor? Any chance magic can cure her tumor and still leave her capable of the cool visualization stuff, but maybe so she can do it on command, instead of it being there all the time?
And I'm not sure if this is standing out for me because of the order the eps are airing in, but this is at least the second time that Jones has discovered something and the others haven't thought it important (the girl in the hospital from 'Fables' and now the levitating ball from the Newton's cradle). "Cassandra" is the prophet cursed so no one believes her in Greek Mythology - but here it seems to be Jones in that role. Coincidence? Intentional? Significant?
Aside from all the girl-swooning you caused by having Kane read poetry, I just wanted to comment on how he recited it, with choice pauses and words emphasized - I don't think I've ever heard that poem recited like that before. Did he do multiple takes of the recitation and, if so, did he do it a few different ways? And, if yes, will you put the outtakes on the DVD?
Thanks for the epic Sunday night entertainment!
So, about midway through the episode I was like "ah, they're going to figure out how to disrupt everything and Morgana won't get her magic boost and then she'll wither and die or something."
Now, I like how things ended, but it makes me curious why you ended it the way you did.
Also, Cassie is definitely getting pretty good at magic.
Any chances we'll get to hear more about those otherworlds in season 2? Assuming there is one anyway.
That was a really fantastic episode. I loved Cassandra fangirling.
So if Jenkins is Galahad, that means he's Lancelot du Lac's son, and if Dulaque is Lancelot... OMG! This is going to be awesome!
Three questions, now:
1. Did a past Librarian ever crossed paths with Morgan Le Fay?
2. Does Jenkins coming to work for the Library have anything to do with Morgan?
3. Is Morgan's "Fear the hero" about Flynn? Might he go too far to recover the Library?
So, I'm watching "Power of Three" on DVR, but before I jump into "Heart of Darkness", I flip over to where one of my local Iowa stations is running "The Boiler Room Job" ep of Leverage . First commercial break I get, they run a PSA for the state STEM group, talking about upcoming events including the state Science Fair. Hope ours doesn't turn out like Chicago did.....
/\ thanks, several people! I watch on an old SD TV and the subtitles aren't always the easiest to figure out when you're tired. :)
I've just got to say: Ezekiel Jones is one of my favorite characters on television right now.
Q: 1a. Baird and the rule of 3. Did she used magic to harm or just to wish that the tables were equal between her and Morgana?
1b. and does that related to Morgana saying she was now woven into the Loom of Fate?
@MacSTL - re: Cassandra's clothes... social awkward nerd wear? The kind of clothes someone might wear who didn't get to hang out much with her own age/social group and instead only adults, so she perhaps had only her parents/family as a pattern for what to wear? She really does have a spinster aunt vibe at times. Soooo much cutesy floral and pastel.
Cassie does seem to really be embracing the magical side of things. Given how her mind parses science, it really doesn't seem to be a stretch to see her do the same for magic. I'd like to see the tumor cured, but I'm not in any hurry. Also that girl really does have a few issues she needs to work through.
@Eri Smith re: Lancelot & Galeas(Galahad) (Good guess on who picked that earlier) I would personally be fucking amazed that any relationship could last a thousand years unchanged, especially given the kind of stresses Jenkins little speech at the end of Apple of Discord hinted at. People change. Especially maybe if someone has an ideal or goal they're chasing over the well being of normal people. That might really warp someone.
Less questions, more theory: Le Fey warned to be wary of Heroes, not Villains, and she sounded like she was running scared. If DuLaque was once Lancelot then he could well still be considered a Hero? What did Lancelot traditionally want? Gwenhwyfar, Arthur?
Could he be working to ressurrect either or both of them? Since it's not like Lancelot doesn't have a history of being obsessed with chasing something, far beyond where Sanity might otherwise prevail.
..Cue Obligatory girl swoon here for Kane reciting Byronic poetry. First Yeats, now Byron...*siiiiigh*
She walks in beauty, like the night
Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
And all that’s best of dark and bright
Meet in her aspect and her eyes;
It's not like I don't already have massive love for the Librarians as a show, but it's when you brilliant nutcases, fairly shamelessly use Poetry to show Jake Stone as the dead sexy, intelligent geek he is is just ....(happy place sigh) And then having him do so in order to reach out to a troubled kid, was just an extra cherry on a general topping of Kane awesomeness. Actually his entire speech about costumes and roles was eloquent and heartfelt.
Not to mention his opening line, "I have access to every art portfolio in History. Where else would I be?" Not that it was much of a stretch, but you pretty much took my headcanon out of my head and dumped it all over the screen.
3. Sorry, lost track if this has been asked before, but just how good is Jake Stone at compartmentalising his life, and are we ever going to see both halves come crashing together at all?
4. Are we ever going to see something seriously shake up Ezekiels almost superhuman self confidence? I'm always torn between laughing my arse off at Ezekiel, and wanting to smack him over the head. ...and for whoever asked what kind of parent calls a kid Ezekiel? Asian parents for who english is a second language, trust me, he got off pretty lightly. Or ónes who are devout Christians.
As a librarian who spent most of high school at the science fairs -- with a geology project, no less (not a volcano, though) -- this episode had to be about the best thing ever. Thank you!
Normally, librarians wouldn't judge at a science fair at that level (I know, because I'd love to judge, but alas, I'm not qualified). Did Morgan just not care about the judging, or did she figure out who they were when they introduced themselves and figure that she might as well keep them around to get caught up in the rule of three?
Loved the way that everybody had a day off, but still ended up doing some kind of work at the library. (Except Ezekiel) Please don't tell me he finally got around to using the magic door of the Annex for a bank robbery. I have a really bad feeling about the sirens in the background and the package he was holding. At the scene when Baird was dangling Morgan le Fay over the guardrail, why didn't she just shoot her in the head or something, and then go rescue the kids? It doesn't take that much time to shoot somebody, does it? Was Jenkins being overdramatic in the last scene with Baird, or is the whole 'the end is nigh' thing really true? What happens to Amy afterwards? Does she just go back to her normal life knowing that magic is real? Please tell me that she becomes one of the junior l.i.t your mentioned earlier. Loved that scene where Stone is talking about wearing costumes to hide yourself. And last, but definitely not the least, the big question....So is Jenkins Galahad and Dulaque Lancelot? Are they really father and son?
Another great episode. Whoever made the choice to have Christian Kane recite my favorite Byron poem has my everlasting love. Wish he could have recited the whole thing.
This episode was great! My question: I know you've said we'll see Jake's family in S2 if the show gets renewed -- any chance of seeing Cassandra or Ezekiel's family as well at some point?
Hopefully by the time this gets to be answered we will have a second season announced.
1. how likely are we in season 2 to get a person from a characters past show up and cause complications. My choice would be Stones as my Kaniac heart craves more back story and angsty looks.
2. will there be an annex within the annex for all the jr lits. who will be their guardian. Poor Jenkins
The 7 on Stone's back: Shout out to The Rashomon Job?
I thought I saw the 7 on Jake's back also; he would do that in "Leverage" . I suspect it is from his song and album "House Rules" ( Rule number 7 you don't touch the women but they can touch whatever they want ).
Still waiting to see what special talent/ability Stone brings the group; seems to be mostly Jones and Cassandra coming up with solutions and saving the day
Hi!
1) I *adore* Ezekiel! He seems like he's starting to warm up to the folks around him (I mean, stealing a trophy for Cassandra bc she didn't have any?!). Methinks that he's more human than any of them (or even he) realize(s).
2. Any particular reason why Cassandra was wearing a seratonin necklace? Or was that the costuming department being awesome again?
3. The use of Byron was adorable.
4. Man, the tension between LeFay and Jenkins was palpable. Alicia Witt does a freaking incredible job--I can't wait to see her if/when she comes back. My question, though, is whether or not there will be some epic showdown between she and Jenkins and/or she and Baird?
5. "Fear the hero," eh? Maybe the hero's trying to maintain the status quo when he really shouldn't be? (It seems to me as though the artifacts are particularly dangerous *because* they're concentrated magic. If this status quo were lessened [or gotten rid of entirely], would it decrease their power [and maybe the need for a Librarian]?)
Thanks for the wonderful ep (science-y folks, unite!) and for answering all of us. :)
So we leave closed captioning on because we're all doing different things on different screens, and it helps to be able to read as much as listen. Every once in a while, closed captioning misses a line. It happens.
But in this episode, it missed the line when Morgan named Jenkins.
Did you have something to do with that?
This episode was a bit of a PTSD flashback for me. I can't tell you how many of those things I got roped into judging in grad school. I also had a fair number of summer high school students that I had to mentor so they could make those stupid projects. For realz though, those parents be crazy.
So questions...
1) Thanks for the answers in the last post. After I posted, I realized that the black mask was mentioned in the Horns of Dilemma too. Related to that observation, I was wondering if you had started filming episodes prior to choosing a new direction or did you have to pull things in post?
2) Why was the spell screen the visualization from Windows media player?
3) This may be more of a writing process question. Were Cassandra's and Stone's interactions with their respective kids intended to be extensions of themselves or were they projecting themselves onto the kids?
I was going to ask you to spell Galeas for me, but the other commenters covered that one for me.
Observations...
1) Yay for Bex Taylor-Klaus! I always thought that she was grossly underutilized on Arrow.
2) I hate to say it, but I kind of like this better than stealing a science fair.
3) Whomever coined the term "mathemagics" has earned a cold alcoholic beverage on me.
Thanks again. You rock.
Can we get Amy Meyers back in the future as another Librarian In Training? Because she was seriously wonderful.
Alicia Witt was also wonderful, and I had a fun bit of deja vu when I googled her and discovered that she played Alia in the David Lynch DUNE movie.
You mentioned in a previous post that magic "doesn't work on Jenkins", but clearly Morgana's the exception. Have we seen magic pointedly not work on Jenkins? If so, I've missed it.
Who wrote the "Otters are evil bastards" bit? I nearly fell out of my chair for that.
Kane has a strength/facility with playing opposite children that is very similar (in my opinion) to Matt Smith's. Is that something you keep in mind when writing eps that will have children in them?
Considering the episodes airing out of order, with both Fables and Heart coming before Midnight Ride and Apple, in regards to Jake's much warmer attitude towards her is it safe to say that Jake does trust Cassandra again by Santa's Midnight Ride or is that something that's still coming up or is it just never gonna happen? What can I say, I'm invested in their relationship or lack there of.
Also, I don't know if it's a thing, but I appreciate how similar Cassandra is to Willow Rosenberg, both redheaded mathematical geniuses with bubbly personalities who are perhaps very gifted when it comes to magic.
And judging by what Morgan called Jenkins, if he is Galahad, why would he say 'whatever it is we were' to Dulaque? I mean, that would make Dulaque his dad wouldn't it? Unless Jenkins stopped seeing Dulaque as his father a long time ago.....
Thanks for the invitation to post half-baked theories!
The idea that, with enough built-up magic, Morgan Le Fay can visit other realms was an interesting reveal, especially after she imparted her message about the hero being more a worry than the villain.
Hmmm... the Library is cut off from Earth, but perhaps it might be accessible from other worlds? So someone who builds up a scary amount of magical power could use it to get to the Library. Flynn, the hero, seems pretty desperate to get back - perhaps desperate enough to experiment with magic that could have dangerous, even catastrophic risks? That might make a hero scarier than a villain.
I like the idea of Cassandra's grasp of equations making her a good fit for handling magic.
(Sorry, this is a long one)
OHO! Ohhhhh hooo....
You mentioned in a prior blog post that we were going to be meeting someone soon who was 'good at opening doors' in reference to the Library being locked away/lost.
I think I know where Morgan Le Fay is planning to go to hide. Or at least, if I was her, I would be thinking about catching up on some reading. (Assuming, of course, that she's expecting Flynn to do something asinine and Ragnarokesque to get back into the Library. If she expects it to fail, then inside the Library is about as safe as one could be.) The real question to me is how much, and what, she learned from being in the Annex. I'm guessing she's drawn some conclusions based on the fact that there's a Guardian and three Librarians running about, none of whom were Flynn. (Loved her "oh, you're a Guardian. Should I speak slower?")
It'll be interesting to see where things go with Jenkins/Galahad and Dulaque/(Lancelot?). I'm not 100% convinced that Dulaque isn't Mordred or possibly even Merlin, partially because Lancelot is a bit more straightforward than I would anticipate.
It seems from the comments that a fair number of people didn't listen carefully enough to Jenkins' explanation of the Rule of Three, because he says that any magic harm you do 'with malicious intent' (or something to that effect, I forget the exact line) comes back on you threefold. Using magic to level the playing field and allow you to harm someone in pursuit of protecting innocents is hardly malicious intent, and if anything I'd say Eve would have had a positive boost in store for her but that probably got burned helping their Key of Farraday defense work.
Big fan of mathemagics. Might I also suggest cryptonunciation and/or archeaovocabulary as fields of magical research?
Bex's "Magic is real?" bit gave me such a surge of sympathetic joy that I actually teared up a tiny bit. If I were in Amy's place I don't think I'd have been able to say much other than make excited squee noises.
Lord Byron is always nice, but I felt that Jake talking about how he wore his costume too well for too long was more touching. (On the subject of poetry somewhat less overused and at least as potentially applicable, might I suggest/request that someone use part of Robert E Howard's "Recompense" at some point?)
1. Who came up with all the science projects -- both the ideas and the presentations? Did you hijack a local STEM competition?
2. I did not even recognize Detective Falacci. (L&O:Criminal Intent was the spiritual predecessor of Elementary, up until it became the Let's Torment Goren show.) I liked how she had such a light touch with that air of amusement -- and that she could send Jenkins into a panic.
3. Jenkins and his free will -- how much does he leave the team dangling so they figure stuff out for themselves, and how much does he boost them along so they finish up and he can go back to his "real" work?
Awesome episode, possibly my favourite yet.
Please tell me there's a tabletop RPG in the works for this?
Given Jenkin's obvious connection to Dulac (and now Morgan Le Fay), I find it strange that no one has had the "What are you not telling us?" talk with him yet. Is it safe to assume that's coming up soon?
Related question: How much does Flynn know about Jenkins? Does he know more than we do? (Does the library have an employment file with his resume, which someone could check?)
Lancelot did more than have an affair with Guenevere. He made war on Arthur. That having been said, sleeping with the queen was no small matter. In those days, the king and queen were the state. Sleeping with the queen had political implications, because it could affect the line of succession. So, Lancelot was guilty of treason on two counts.
On the other hand, Lancelot was the queen's champion, so he had a duty to protect her. When Guinevere faced execution, Lancelot had to choose between breaking his oath to Arthur (who he had, in fact, already betrayed) and his oath to Guinevere. That seems to fit Jenkin's statement ("a very... complicated situation").
There's another, much more subtle possibility. According to some versions of the legend, "Galahad" was Lancelot's original birth name, as well as his son's. So, it could possibly be that Jenkins is the real Lancelot and Dulaque is an imposter. That seems to be somewhat of a reach, however, especially since the fairy vouchsafed him as the son of (King) Ban. Lancelot was raised by fairies, so they should know. (Then again, fairies are known to lie.)
Was turning a spell into an app a deliberate reference to Charles Stross's Laundry series, or just great minds thinking in parallel?
I was surprised by Cassandra's audible curse when the cloud of flies came out of the student. Was that intentional, or was the sound of the buzzing supposed to effectively bleep it out, but didn't?
Galeas and Dulaque, eh? Well, this could be fun figuring out how Judson and Charlene fit in. Arthur and Guinevere? Although ... hmmm, Charlene used to be a Guardian, you've said, and Merlin often kind of acted as Arthur's Guardian so maybe there's a little gender-bending here and Charlene is Merlin to Judson's Arthur? Though I don't recall, from my reading of the stories, Merlin ever pestering anyone for receipts...
Does the mathemagics have any relation to Fletcher Pratt and L. Sprague De Camp's Harold Shea series of books which have been described as "a high point in the application of sternest intellectual logic to screwball fantasy" and used symbolic logic to travel between various fantasy lands?
I'm not sure whether I should thank you or something else for what you did to my heart when Christian Kane started reciting my favorite poem of all time.
Even without that bit, that scene between Stone and the kid was beautiful and I loved it.
How does the back door work from the outside? For example, Flynn came into the annex through the back door (and didn't apparently know it was even working?!) and now Jones has done the same thing. They don't have access to Jenkin's globe-mechanism-thing from outside the annex, presumably, so how do they work the door without it? Or, if that mechanism doesn't work the door, what does?
Hi- First I am loving the show and really hope it gets picked up for more seasons. My question is that if Cassandra "was" Merlin and still had a spark of magic wouldn't Morgan have been able to sense it at the science fair? Or maybe she was busy concentrating on her own plans for the feedback loop that was coming.
The locker-filled hallway looked a bit familiar. Was that location featured on a Leverage or something?
So, according to this episode, saying the "absolute truth" means admitting we're a little too in love with Eve Baird. Well, I think my incessant fawning over her is evidence enough hehe But really, her underdog pep talk is inspiring. Combine that with Rebecca's opal eyes, no wonder Leonard hears a thousand angels singing when she's talking to him. And she must have done baking soda volcanoes back in school.
1. The desk was the first thing I noticed! She's able to use it without all the usual clutter - they're there but she has more space for her research.
2. None of them takes the day off, right? Jenkins has an idea Ezekiel uses the Backdoor for not Librarian purposes but he isn't surprised with it, how cute. Do they even have a separate housing near the Annex or did they all decide to inhabit the place (which I'm supposing has larger spaces than what we've been shown)?
3. When was Eve woven into the Loom of Fate, when she dabbled with the Rule of Three or when she was chosen as the Guardian by the Library? Isn't it amazing she's the first to get Morgan Le Fay off guard in a long time ~wooh~ I remember one of your answers a few episodes back about why a specific letter for a Guardian whereas thousand potentials for the Librarian that implies that Baird's role is quite important (or I dare say even more important than Flynn's) in the grander scheme of things.
4. Speaking of roles, I like this parallel between Jenkins and Eve. She's reiterating she's not here to kill and I think it says a lot how she's come a long way to the point she has a much clearer grasp on why she's the Guardian and what she's supposed to do in the face of the whole magic returning to world. Also, drunk Jenkins seems not his usual chill self, there's palpable fear about the implication of meeting Morgan Le Fay. Last saw him react similarly was with Dulaque - can't wait to see the finale to see what it all means~
5. Oh and Morgan isn't fazed with Eve's power, she looks delighted too. And a smidge turned on even when she could be dropped from that ledge, I'm not sure. Her presence in the STEM Fair though, it's as if she counted on the Librarians coming in and their actions going according to her plans. Creepy.
Was Morgan Le Fay mentioned in the one of the other Librarian episodes? I'm rewatching the movies because I could swear I heard the name before in one of them
One comment on Mathmagics - some 40 years ago, I recall seeing a 1959 educational film made by Disney called "Donald in Mathmagic Land." Granted, it was aboutmthe magic of math, but the phrase is over 50 years old....
The wanted poster on the stage set--anyone we know??
Assuming Jenkins is Galahad and Dulaque is Lancelot, are Arthurian characters they "real" persons in the Librarian universe? Or are they members of the Guild of Fictional Entities (mentioned during the Apple episode)?
If they are fictional entities, that might explain why they're so hard to kill. (To paraphrase a line from the first movie, "It takes more than a fall to the ground to destroy a legend.")
Will the DVD be in the correct order - like the Leverage S1 was?
About the otters (and perhap this has already been addressed), I believe jonrog had some link on a tweet about the evil side of otters. I think that display came from him!
A friend suggested I might enjoy this show, and now The Librarians is my favorite tv show! (I really hope TNT renews it for multiple seasons, or at the very least, Season 2. So, a few random inquiries. None of them are really centered around Jenkins (I honestly adore him/John Larroquette. The way he sing-songed 'the laws of physics are starting to bend' was awesome, as was his mini-speeches about having free will (something picked up from getting yelled at be Ezekiel, maybe?) and the miracles of soda), since you're probably going to classify any answers to those as having spoilers. Grrr....
1.) Are we ever going to learn more about Ezekiel's past? So far, there's been a few revelations about Eve's, Cassandra's, Jenkins', and Stone's pasts, but not really anything about Ezekiel's. According to one of your earlier posts, he got the Library's letter when can we a teenager. Was he already a their then, or did he become one later, and if so, what happened for him to go down that path? And does he have any family? I'm not sure if it's just me, but I felt like Ezekiel's speech to Jenkins in 'the Apple of Discord' about choices and being a coward touched some personal issue(s) for him.
1b)Ezekiel's my favorite LIT, but even I admit that he's a bit....abrasive, for lack of a better term, to the team in the beginning. Did the writers decide at the beginning to write Ezekiel that way, or is that all John Kim? But now we see him stealing a trophy for Cassandra to make her feel better. What brought about this attitude adjustment? Exactly when/why/how did he 'allegedly' hack the NSA?
2.) Why did was the magic app needed for setting up the 'five-side Tesla coil field'? Wouldn't the rule of three have gotten really wonky for them since they were using the app to counteract the effects of the app? On a side note, since all of them were outside of the center of the giant pentagram, why weren't they blown up?
2b.) What's up with the little yellow glowing bits of code in the app? Didn't know there was a font/color for writing code for granting magical wishes. Couldn't le Fay have written it normally, or was it left deliberately like that to let us viewers know something was seriously hinky?
3.)So does Stone trust Cassandra now? I mean, when she had the plan for creating the Faraday's cage, he let her take the lead without can hesitation. There hasn't been the 'I like you, but don't trust you' speech from Stone for a while now, so has he gotten over the whole betrayal thing.
4.) I'm going to break my own rules on asking about Jenkins here, but it's not that bad? Isn't Jenkins being sort of hypocritical to Baird when he berates her for not having killing Morgan le Fay, given that in 'Horns of a Dilemma' he said the library chose her for more of a reason than to kill?
5.)What exactly is the Loom of Fate? And when le Fay says 'you've already been woven into the loom of fate' is she specifying Baird, or the Library and everybody associated with it? On that note, did Baird tell anyone other than Jenkins about her and le Fay's little side conversion? Are the LITs aware that the world is about to end?
6.) What's Lamia's stake in all of the this? And for that matter, Dulaque's? Neither of them seem to be the type to destroy the world for the fun of it. And Santa's spiel about Lamia secretly wanting to be a good guy seems weird for how devoted she is to Dulaque. My headcanon at the moment is that Lamia had some kind of connection with the Library at some point, before everything went to hell, and then she vowed vengeance and joined up with Dulaque to reach it. Maybe the Library could have helped somebody she cared about with magic, but didn't because of the rules?
Since nobody asked: Whose brain was in the jar?
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B) MORGAN LE FAY!!!!!!!
C) I want to hear the rest of the sea otter speech. Are they evolving into that furry thing from The Mile High Job?
D) Leonard falling in love with Baird was hilarious! A thousand-million humour points.
1) Wait. I thought you said Jenkins was immune to magic. Is it just her? Or is it something like the Power of the Name? She can affect him because she knows who he is?
2) Is their introduction "We're/I'm the Librarian(s)" the magical equivalent of psychic paper?
E) I love the way Baird is just now starting to understand that not all the bad guys have the same motives. Le Fay is not Dulaque. Not everybody wants to rule the world. Apple!Eve did though, so that might be where it's coming from.
'm always torn between laughing my arse off at Ezekiel, and wanting to smack him over the head. ...and for whoever asked what kind of parent calls a kid Ezekiel? Asian parents for who english is a second language, trust me, he got off pretty lightly. Or ónes who are devout Christians.
Well, actually Ezekiel Jones actually suggests an adoption, possibly by devout Christians. Might be parent issues there....
But come on....what happened to Jonas?
This is where the UK drops behind as SyFyUK keeps to that antique scheduleof one show a week. It's like living in the stone age. So here's my final real-time question of the season: What's the myth/legend/story/thingy you most want to do, but can't for whatever reason (budget/intellectual property/tone/too dumb/too awesome)?
So I feel stupid for having to ask, but A.L.B.? Does that stand for something that the general viewing audience should already know? ie How did Cassandra look at those letters and immediately know it was a 'magical app'?
Jenkins said in "Horns of a Dilemma" that the back door doesn't stay open very long. So how did Morgan le Fay go through it to the Annex a good while after the LITs arrived at the STEM fair. Also, the announcer said this was the sixth annual fair. So if le Fay's purpose was to gather magical energy, why didn't she do it at the beginning, instead of waiting six years to release her magical app?
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