So, how many health and safety regulations did you have to wrangle in order to stage the cheerleading tournament? ;) And was there a real story that inspired this one?
Where to start? The scene where Parker and Eliot debate over Hardison dangling, the scene where Eliot nearly loses his cool-"C'mon damn why not?GRRRRRR", Nate showing he is the ULTIMATE mastermind, Sophie and her 50 accents, Parker showing her soft side with the girls, it was all wonderful. My question is this John-does Aldis improv some lines? Last week it was "Don't hate on the bbq, hate on the sides", and this week it was "Oh now your in my pool guppy". Both cracked me up!
This was an awesome episode, I have to say. I'm just wondering, for any other commenter, what did Eliot say to Nate at the very end. It looked significant, but I was distracted and didn't catch it.
I'd ask how hard it was for Gina to shift from so many different accents in one ep., but...it's Gina. I'd ask how long it took her to nail each accent, but...um, it's Gina. So instead I'll just ask; Who's idea was it for her to do so many in one episode and had an idea like this been planned or was it just the episode dictating so many?
First Hardison and now Eliot. Is Nate going to end up having basically the same conversation with every single member of the team? Because that could make things very interesting. :-)
(Really, captcha? REALLY? A picture of a hinge? What in heaven's name am I supposed to do with a picture of a hinge? Geesh!)
That last exchange between Nate and Eliot has me thinking. At the end of season 4, Nate said he had big plans and now it seems, at least this time, he tried to get Eliot to think more like a grifter. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks Nate's big plan has all five of our Leverage crew running crews of their own in an effort to pull off the biggest con in history and take down the biggest villain ever. What's bigger than one crew conning someone? 5 crews conning someone? ...... Thanks to Reynolds for my lovely reflective hat.
When the folks in the audience held up the "Badgers" sign, was that to support the cheer squad from Larry Duberman's alma mater or a different school with the same mascot?
This was a near-perfect episode. From the casting of the gorgeous, Demi Moore-like Danielle Bisutti to the way Congress was depicted (topical, seemingly accurate, and funny as hell), and excellent uses for our intrepid heroes, this one just kept moving with great twists and turns while staying relatively linear. I have more fun moments than I have questions, so here's the tally (hassle in Tallahassee, to quote Dan Rather).
1. How did Hardison introduce HR505 in the first place? Was he already working in the Congresswoman's office? 2. It seemed pretty obvious that the team, at least Nate and Eliot, was "made" in the hearing scene, yet they were more interested in Bisutti's facial expression than that fact. Was the audience supposed to be ahead of the team, was it intentional misdirection, or... something else? 3. Nate thinks he has "no weaknesses"? SERIOUSLY?? Even after the episode in a previous season where he had to con someone as if he were conning himself? I'd thought his self-awareness was improving, but that seems a dangerous gap for him to have. 4. In one of the scenes between Nate and Eliot in Congress, Kane had a hair sticking out on his right side. Was there a point to it? (Pun intended!) 5. Parker's "All AAH" and Eliot's wink to Hardison - hilarious! 6. Nice tip of the fedora to Indiana Jones - "Corn subsidies! Why did it have to be corn subsidies?" 7. Loved "War & Peace with math", the "Ready... ready... let's go" duality, and "Fort Devereaux". 8. "Bring it on!" Seriously? Or did you feel it was expected and you HAD to use it? :) 9. I'm gonna keep on praising LoDuca until (and after) you put out another Leverage soundtrack album. STELLAR work on the "casing lasers" scene and the "Let's grift" walk, among others (the Middle Eastern bit was another good one).
I love the silly banter between Eliot and Hardison. I was just wondering how much of that is scripted and how much is ad lib by the guys? I'm thinking of the tree frog bit in particular.
Nate thinks he has "no weaknesses"? SERIOUSLY?? Even after the episode in a previous season where he had to con someone as if he were conning himself? I'd thought his self-awareness was improving, but that seems a dangerous gap for him to have.
I could be wrong here, but I just took that as macho posturing between Nate and Eliot. Rogers has said before that Nate is pretty self-aware about his own failings.
I thought this was the best episode of the season. I love how clever it was, how topical and relevant it was and the fast pacing of the con. I wasn't as crazy about the subplot with Parker getting all earnest, but I'll take it any day when the rest of the episode is that good.
Also, kudos on the cheerleader villain. She was spot on, and I love her line about knowing a few things about quarterbacks.
But I am so totally not kidding about breaking up with you!! Because right now, it so looks like Nate is retiring and getting the team ready to be a 4fer or a 3fer, and the 5 actors are so straight up magic together, that even the possibility of that is just awful terrible maddening!
Nate and Eliot had a back and fourth this week about “good people” this makes me wonder. Does Nate even believe in “good people”? People that do the right thing simply because it’s the right thing.
How much of this was "must. suppress. gag. reflex" and how much of this was "bloviating is fun!"? Did you make all the writers give stump speeches? I was particularly impressed with the "as someone who once did something vaguely related, I'm going to pretend that I am now an expert on this subject" trope.
I'm loving watching how Nate's obviously preparing the rest of the team for ... something. Can't wait to find out what it is, although I have a guess and it's got me very, very nervous.
Questions: 1. Was any of the Pep stuff inspired by/based on CrossFit? 2. By any chance was Sophie's assistant "Ginger" a shoutout to The West Wing?
My compliments on the handling of the cheerleading stuff. You had fun with it without taking all the easy, predictable digs, and you raised some legit points about the safety issues.
This one took a while to hook me in I think...but when it came together at the end it was great.
I still feel Bring It On did cheerleading better, but then that's the only thing I have to compare it to, lol.
I'm really getting the feeling that Nate is grooming Eliot in his own way...actually, he seems to be grooming everyone in some form. Interesting. Oh, and it looks like Eliot has the same thoughts. That is not the expression you want to see on his face.
How long until we start to see some fallout/tension from what Nate is planning?
Watching this one having seen the Penn & Teller Bullshit on Cheerleading, and the massive greedy racket (let's call it what it is) that controls it, this one felt different to me. Like I'd done part of the research.
It was great how each of the characters got their own place to go, but I think this might be the first episode where Eliot really didn't hit anybody.
I'm guessing that last look from Eliot means he's figured out something of Nate's plans.
Gina Bellman got the best laugh of the night, though, with that Hoo-Ha bit. And she had a lot of great stuff this episode. She was working hard on this one.
And while I love all the Leverage directors, there's just this characteristic feel to a Frakes episode that says "I'm bringing the funny".
Last but not least, didn't we have a pickup decision by this time last year? Should we take TNT's silence as ominous?
I'm with allyone on this one. It seems like Nate is spending a lot of effort into settling the team into the new digs and maneuvering everyone to function without him. It's almost like he's very slowly walking into the background though I haven't worked out what his motivation might be. This worries me with all the portents about the super teary-eyed season finale.
@IMForeman A little google-fu shows that the Season 5 pickup was on August 12th last year. However TNT hasn't announced a renewal/cancel since the end of June so I wouldn't panic just yet.
I agree with allyone and antisocialbutterflie, it does feel like Nate is stepping away from the others a little bit with each passing episode. Or maybe a better way of putting it is that he's allowing them to step up more each week and do things on their own. I'm really hoping it's just Nate finally letting up a bit of his control-freak grip with this new found zen attitude of his.
I swear Rogers, possibly final season or (hopefully) not, if you kill one of the fab five it will be a total buzz kill.
Oh and by the way, that "hoo-ha" line read was fabulous! Totally hilarious.
I just have to say I know you are up to something. And I know you know you are up to something. And you know, we want to know what the something is you are up to, but you know what, I'm not sure I want to know, because, sometimes the not knowing is really much better. So thanks, I think.
Honestly, I didn't think season 5 could be better than all the others, bu the whole crew is fabulous. But I fear, this is a final season. And if you go on to other things, I will be both happy and sad.
I haven't cared about a TV show in ages. This is smart and funny and great, and I hope you keep doing things that make all of you very happy.
Oh, yeah: Whence came Sophie's minions? I felt like I should recognize them, but I didn't. Or is it just that all staffers are essentially interchangeable?
@Vanessa: The show moved to a six-act structure in season 4. (Thank you, DVD commentaries!)
OK it's been hinted at and I'm putting pieces together. I REALLY hope I'm on the WRONG track. This season, from what I've observed so far, is strongly reflecting Season 1.
First, (filming benefits aside) Nate moves the team to a new city relatively close to their original HQ; i.e. Chicago to Los Angeles.
Second, the new office and even the reveal of the new office has a familiarity to the first.
Tonight's episode was super-political, just like in Homecoming Job.
Nate has been working on something top-secret that affects the team & you've said that he's this year's Big Bad. Eliot picked up on Nate's test of his mastermind skills.
All of this is drawing me to a conclusion that makes me squirmy, queasy, and sad. At the end of Season 1 the team broke up. They said their goodbyes & went their separate ways.
You've already said that the finale will make us cry. The story of this show has always had a symmetrical flavor and moved in circles. I hate to even post this comment, cuz it'll just increase the anxiety that everyone is feeling. Hopefully renewal news in not being held back because this is the end. Hopefully you would/will tell us when the story is over. Hopefully it is not over yet.
Okay, Rogers, I am trying my best not to panic here, but OMG WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH NATE?!?!?
*ahem*
Very nice ep. It was fun seeing the team so frustrated by having to deal with Congress (maybe the team's match when it comes to grift … and graft?). And I loved watching Sophie break out one persona after another. And naturally she could get a military installation named after her. ;)
And I do so love those moments when Nate and Eliot work together, when we get some insight into their relationship. Once again we see that Nate does respect Eliot's intelligence and thinks he's capable of more than just punching. Though, like Eliot, I wonder (and worry) about what exactly Nate seems to be grooming Eliot for.
Hardison had some great moments as well, from his frustration over the way funding is structured ("but they don't want the money!") to his eventual mastery and use of that very structure against the mark.
And Parker was wonderful, from her dismay at being "stuck" with the cheerleaders ("what do I know about teenage girls?") and her sorrow that they couldn't appreciate her beloved laser grid to her bonding moment with Madison. And I just loved her admission that the only thing that really scares her is letting down the people she cares about. Awww!!
I also appreciate that you didn't make all the congresscritters total douches. Despite the evidence offered by the giant pile of dung that is our current House, I'd like to think there are some members who can still do the right thing, even if for less than totally selfless reasons.
One question, though. Is cheerleading really not classified as a sport? If it's not, that's just totally wrong.
(btw, I hate, HATE the new wv system! My eyes can only take so much!)
Loving the entire season so far and thank you for setting it in Portland. I have but two quick questions.
1. I'm starting a Leverage RPG set in Portland (hometown is easy). Just so I can line my game up with show cannon, can I assume that the team eventually leaves Portland with some marks?
2. Please tell me that you've partnered with Bridgeport to make Thief Juice.
At the planning table, when Eliot told Parker that the thought of Hardison hanging upside down off a building was funny, it got me thinking...
Since everything seems to be going so well for Parker & Hardison (not perfect, but honestly not bad at all), would Eliot ever play a joke on Hardison and let Hardison believe there was something going on between Parker & Eliot? If, say, Hardison misunderstood something saw or over-heard and, instead of clearing things up, Eliot just let Hardison's imagination run amok for a bit. Just to tease him, because Eliot does need to get Hardison back for eating his special hand-crafted sandwich last season.
2nd question - this was another ep directed by Frakes. How many did he get to direct this season?
Thanks again for another interesting ep. I think you did a pretty good job giving each congressman/woman their own set of congressional priorities/concerns, and only 1 truly corrupt bought-for-a-(really good)-lunch congressman.
Oh, and can we get Hardison hired on Capital Hill, to weed out all the money that isn't getting used, and redistribute it to where it can be of use, or use it to lower the deficit? If we want smaller government, that would be a better first start than gutting medicare or getting rid of the EPA or Dept of Education.
Fantastic episode - loved it as per usual! My question...that look Eliot gave the retreating Nate at the very end...Eliot has guessed something's up, right? Do we see more of that during the rest of the season and if so, does it impact the relationship between the two of them...we know he'd do anything for Nate but is there a line, even for him?
The stats given at the beginning, something like 3% of all female sports participants are in cheer, but 65% of the injuries are in cheer - are those accurate?? Crazy if that's real.
This one was awesome. I loved watching Leverage Inc. come up against an obstacle that initially had the whole team flummoxed.. It felt like Nate was more setting challenges for his crew than running a con; Parker had to manage a group of emotionally fragile people (otherwise known as teenagers), Hardison, Elliot and Sophie all had respective, tougher-than-your-average-mark targets to try and hook, and Nate... well, he either gave himself the easy one or he really is much smarter than everyone else in his crew. To the questions!
1) Is there an in-universe reason that Leverage Inc. doesn't keep a few more people around? Parker's grown as a grifter over the years, but the crew would still run more smoothly if they had Tara around as a part-time secondary grifter, or if they hired that Apollo guy from the Two Live Crew job to back up as a thief when Parker's out of position. Hardison is also growing more versatile, but a thief he ain't (the Truffle and Potato jobs come to mind). 2) This season seems a lot like it's setting up as a finale... please reassure me that this is not the case :( 3) Does Nate REALLY believe he has no weaknesses? It seems like an inordinate amount of time in this series has been devoted to meticulously identifying and describing the many ways Nate Ford is... not the most healthy man. 4) Did Hardison get a cheerleading company classified as a haberdashery? If so, how?
My question is also the use of the name "Wolves" for the cheer team, but I was wondering if it was a callback to season 2 (I think) and the Zoe telling Nate her dad's story of the the world being full of wolves. Maybe I am reading way too much into this. ;)
I enjoyed this ep a lot but thought Parking going all after-school special was a bit much. Too mainstream. New Parker is not as interesting as Classic Parker.
The comedy and banter this season is hilarious. I'm sure it has to do with the actors comfort with each other and the great writing. Kudos!! My guess is Nate is grooming the team to run their own crews. Am I close?? And can you give us a hint to Sophies real name episode reveal? Now that Eliot has figured Nate is up to something, will he not trust him the rest of the season?
What was up with Eliot's look in the last minute? I can't decide if it was a "it'll be okay being onmy own" or a call back to the San Lorenzo Job "Would you ever leave the people you're with now?" look? Why do you hurt us?!
I was really surprised by their plan in this episode, because it was hardly a con at all, they were straight-up lobbying !... using fake identities, sure, but other than that it could have been an episode from the West Wing. But seeing them completely caught off-guard by the political process was a beauty, we don't often see them this badly out of their depth.
In fact the combination of them being out of their depth, and the "con" consisting of following the normal political process (as opposed to stealing a law for example...) sets up politics as a bigger, badder version of Crime World, which is hilarious.
Still, this kind of strikes me as a step up in seriousness for the Leverage team - going from running cons on individual companies to dictating national policy. Is this part of a pattern, or am I imagining the progression (after all they did steal a law way back when).
I was also wondering at how this intersects with the real world, whether the Leverage team were taking credit for an actual law that had passed or if they were setting right what is wrong in our world, and here's a relevant extract from Wikipedia :
"There has been debate on whether or not cheerleading can be considered a sport for Title IX purposes. Supporters consider cheerleading, as a whole, a sport, citing the heavy use of athletic talents while critics do not see it as deserving of that status since sport implies a competition among squads and not all squads compete, along with subjectivity of competitions where - as with gymnastics, diving, and figure skating - scores are assessed based on human judgment and not an objective goal or measurement of time.
On January 27, 2009, in a lawsuit involving an accidental injury sustained during a cheerleading practice, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled that cheerleading is a full-contact sport in that state. In contrast, on July 21, 2010, in a lawsuit involving whether college cheerleading qualified as a sport for purposes of Title IX, a federal court, citing a current lack of program development and organization, ruled that it does not, but may in the future."
So it looks like the Leverage team is taking a state decision to the national level. ("citing a current lack of program development and organization"... Now I'm wondering if a real-world equivalent of PEP has something to do with that)
Oh, and wait a minute... When the client's first expressed concern is for the safety of her kids, isn't putting them in the loving care of "Walk it off" Parker a massively irresponsible act, much as I love her ?
Two episodes ago I thought Nate ignoring the client's wishes was a bit out of the blue but now...
A general comment (I would outright ask but I know you won't answer me) - I have to semi-agree with a comment from above that it seems like Nate is trying to "train" [not just Eliot, but] the whole team to be team leaders and read people themselves, take control, and do their own mastermind thinking. (Notice he also let Parker feel out and handle the situation with the one girl in the basement.) I don't see it as he is planning a giant [one mission] con that would have them branch out and lead their own groups all conning the same man/company, but it would seem more like branching out permanently and running their own crews to take down bad people/companies all over the world at the same time. Franchising, if you will.
You guys keep coming up with interesting cons, I love it. I know I can't ask you about the obvious threads, so I won't, but one has an ominous feel to it.
@oppyu Regarding the quote "bu-but, get this... they do not WANT the MONEY!" this is so true. The DoD is practically shoveling it out on some of the craziest stuff. I'm a biomedical research IRL and any academic will tell you that if you have genuinely novel research screw the NIH. They won't give you jack s**t. They don't care if you have something new or revolutionary, the cash goes to the old and reliable.
The DoD is the only way that anything cutting edge gets done because they have so much cash in hand that they can stand to flush it if a project doesn't work the way you expected (which frankly is exactly how science works). For example the focus project topics for this year included fragile X syndrome, Paget’s disease, and osteoporosis, none of which would affect active-duty soldiers.
It's great for us scientists but I always feel bad for the tax payers. If the NIH and NSF distributed money the way they are supposed to they wouldn't need to foist the high risk projects on the DoD.
AAH! This was spectacular! Very difficult to single this particular ep out in awesomeness to any one cast member, so we'll say that they're ALL AWESOME! Questions: 1. Why couldn't we actually see Parker do some gymnastic-y stuff? That was really my one regret of this ep. 2. Did Sophie really just forge a multi-national deal? 3. Seeing Parker open up was so sweet...just, more! Please! 4. Nate definitely has weaknesses. Right? 5. Were all of the laws Hardison was stonewalling the Busey with orange boxes, or did you stick some ledgers in there? 6. Why is Eliot suspicious? 7. Did Nate purposely give Eliot LeGrange? If so, what for? 7a. And was it really a test of Eliot's grifting/people skills, or something else? 8. RENEWAL?????????????
I loved yesterdays' episode it was a great change of pace.
Also between Hardison's irritation at the crazy world of congress budgets, (and his glee at using them against the villains near the end) Elliot's irritation at having to try and con a "honest" man, Sophie's irritation at having to take part in a chain of deals the likes of which are normally reserved for unlocking a character's final weapon in an RPG, and Parker's irritation at having to put up with teenagers it was really a banner episode for Nate Ford take pleasure at the pain of others.
I also really liked how Sophie went from "I need an assistant" to seemingly having an entire office full of gophers to help keep her chain of deals straight, it plays nicely into her "pretty pretty princess" streak.
What I loved most however was Congressman Corrupty McBackscratch, though could you guys not get any good shots of him drinking whiskey and smoking a cigar in a dimly lit room just to complete the image?
It was fun episode to watch though I'm surprised we didn't get more of Parker teach gymnastics routines inspired by certain crimes she committed, though sadly that's probably just a downside of not having enough time to fit in all the wonderful stuff you could have done with a concept like Mr. Ford goes to Washington!gy
So... that look on Eliot's face at the end of the last scene, it harkens back to "The First David Job", does it not? Eliot knows that Nate played him and you don't con your own crew!, right?
Well, at the very least the crew will be massively multi-talented by the end of the season. But you should keep in mind that many of us are not above violence in the right cause (ahem).
Do Nate and Eliot truly not realize that they may very well be the most vulnerable two on the team? Go after Sophie and Nate will go ballistic; go after anyone on the team and Eliot will make the wrath of God look remarkably like a summer day at the beach. Are we really supposed to believe that they don't know that about themselves?
As is usual with a Frakes episode, the funny was hysterical and front and center. I love when he gets to direct an ep.
On the whole it was a really good ep...but am I the only person who kept thinking of CK's role in the movie "Friday Night Lights" whenever we saw that Congressman? The best thing that ever happened to him was being QB in high school...and being a Congressman is just another step down.
I'm glad to see Parker struggling to be more human, but in the areas where she's succeeding, it seems she's going over the top -- as in her conversation with Madison. But I purely loved her reaction to Nate's statement that she'd *been* a teenage girl. "No, not so much," was written all over her face.
So, you just keep writing, guys, that's what you're good at, but be careful what you write. ;-)
This is one of the funniest episodes you've done, mostly because it is so true about congress. What I really found hilarious, though, was how you had to *simplify* the process, even though the point was how complex it is.
All the team accomplished was getting a bill through a single committee. Assuming the bill only falls under one committee's jurisdiction, you still need to get through the committee in the Senate, then get the bill up for vote in the House, then actually pass the bill in the House, then get the bill to the floor on the Senate, then get 60 votes to end debate, then pass the bill in the Senate, then reconcile the differences between the House and Senate bill, then repeat the process with the new, identical bills, then get the president to sign it.
Fun episode last night! A team of con artists and thieves being so caught on their heels when being forced to lobby Congress - very inspired choice!
The flashbacks to each of their failed initial attempts - except of course for Nate, who just happened to get the most corrupt Congressman on the planet - were hysterical. Also cool the way Nate set up the mark, so she had to take money from the insurance fund, which just happened to be the only illegal withdrawal she could make.
Can we have more open warfare between the team and the marks? They did it with Sterling, did it with Moreau and did it here, and everyone seems to have a blast, and it's soooo fun to watch.
The thing I wasn't sure about was Eliot's "You can't con an honest man." He doesn't really believe that right? 'Cause isn't that the premise of the whole show? That you can con, cheat and steal from honest people, and then the team helps honest people get even?
Again this week, great Eliot-Nate scenes.
I agree it seems like Nate is either retiring or setting up some kind of franchise system, and either way, and I also really hope the series doesn't end on a split team note!
Also, I may have mentioned this, but I hhhhhaaaaaaate the word verification! It's making me blind!!
Himalayan tree frog. Eliot. I'm loving his lines this season. Improv?
Parker's basic gymnastics drill! Oh, boy...
"You can't con an honest man." Eliot called Nate an "honest man" in the pilot...That sounds like a clue to something in future episodes...Eliot is suspicious, isn't he?
By the way, Eliot, boy, tuck your shirt in and at least tie your hair back! And are those cargo pants? Who goes to Washington looking like that?
Thank you for making the cheerleaders look like normal teens (aka not all blonde and anorexic and plastic-looking). And male cheerleaders! Thank you!
Hardison not wanting to throw a book - Was that something Nana told him not to do?
Hoo-hah! lol!
Parker doesn't vote. I don't think any of the team does.
Ooh, mysterious Eliot look at the end there.
Great episode, lots of laughs and some nice development moments.
OK, so I'm really hoping we get another season. But, just in case, perhaps it would be nice to spin off the characters into their own teams and shows? I mean, if we have to lose Leverage, perhaps we could talk TNT into Nate's crew on Monday, Sophie's on Tuesday, Parker's on Wednesday, Hardison's on Thursday, and finish the week with Eliot's on Friday... and of course, a five-part epic crossover story sometime during the season so we can still get our team together for one big caper. Not that you have to write all of these, Rogers... but hey, you're doing so well with what you've given us so far!!!!
Keep up the great work, and I'm looking forward to the novels early next year too!!!
1. I'm liking the whole Portland setting, really, but couldn't you do a con linking with the other Portland, the FIRST one? You're a New Englander, have you run out of ideas to do here? (What if the Stanley Cup was in Portland, ME)? 2. When do you learn as producers, whether or not your show will be picked up for another season? Do you just wait until you hear from them or do you go and lobby them or wait for ratings or fan pressure? I am so totally addicted to this show and all the actors, it's disturbing.
Two more things : first, you know, everytime I read the title of this episode I see something new. It is pretty masterful, good job. Who thought of it ?
Second, I bought the first season of Leverage on DVD ! I am enjoying watching them all again, and I am REALLY enjoying the commentaries. You guys all seem to be fun and smart people ! I'm mostly posting this because in the first episode commentary you talk about how you got picked up for a second season, and then Dean says something like "of course maybe now we're in our fifth season so you should buy all the other DVDs". So that was amusing to me :) Which makes me wonder, did you have specific ideas about how the show would be like by Season 5, and how close are things now to what you were thinking of back in season 1 ?
(and are captchas a long-running effort to develop computers that recognize letters better than humans do ? Because they're getting seriously illegible to my human eyes)
John, I so appreciate your quick turnaround lately on our questions. I have one more. When PEP was trying to find the money to transfer and Hardison kept blocking them, where did they think the warning messages were coming from? Would it be some kind of software companies have to alert them to potential ethics or liability problems in running their business? I haven't seen anything like that out there. Thanks for your generosity of time. Loving this season.
ugh. i know nothing about cheer competitions, so that portion didn't bother me. but i've worked with the folks on the Hill for most of my career as an issue advocate, and i can only hope you never, ever revisit congress. this has to have been the worst episode you've fielded so far. "federal high school athletics committee"? i nearly choked on my breakfast. it would have made more sense to steal a federal judge.
Okay, now Eliot knows that Nate was judging his people-manipulation skills. Nate’s method was sort of sneaky, but his wanting to know Eliot’s strengths and weaknesses is reasonable for the team leader. So why did Eliot narrow his very pretty big blue eyes and shank Nate with the glare of suspicion? What tipped him off that Nate has more than skill assessment going on?
Anonymous @ 12:25pm said one possible plan was to franchise our Leverage team. Nothing wrong with that suggestion, but since that suggests our team splitting up, quite possibly for good, I'm hoping for the 'one big con' scenario proposed by Anonymous @ 6:29pm.
@oona The idea behind "You can't con an honest man" is that an honest man will always do the right thing. He will not take advantage of his position to screw over someone or screw over anyone in general even if means he will gain from it immensely. He cannot be manipulated by vices. Now if you threaten his loved ones, that's another story. I see you Burn Notice. In general I'd say you were correct on the premise, but the team steals back what was taken UNFAIRLY due to power or position and the little guy can't get it back due to lack of funds or immunity from prosecution, etc. If they could help themselves, they wouldn't need the team. @IzzieI'm not sure if you saw the season 2 finale. up until then, Nate considered himself an honest man, an upright citizen that bent or broke the law to redress the wrongs of the world.At the end of that episode, he gets himself arrested and laughs at the irony that he really is a thief and declares that to the puzzlement of Stirling. Eliot is a young Wilford Brimley from "The Firm"
Didn't Sophie express her disgust of politics in the San lorenzo Job?
Full disclosure: I'm a conservative Republican who disagrees with plenty of the political stuff you've posted on here.
Now that that's out of the way, thank you for not making LeGrange into the standard strawman conservative character. It seemed like things were heading in that direction with his initial comments about spending but the establishment of the character made it clear he was a good and honest guy. We're not all bad people, you know. :)
Re: Hardison's reaction to the governmental system. Back in 2008, a few Googlers left Google to join the Obama Administration. Per Steven Levy's book on Google, In the Plex, within a year or two they'd left, mostly out of frustration due to not being able to get things done. One, a non-engineer, was quoted as wishing there were engineers in government, as she wasn't finding any, and her experience at Google was that engineers solve problems and get stuff done.
@ Art_Connery: Yes, I did watch that episode. Connecting the two "honest man" speeches was my way of saying that I have no idea what's coming next and the rest of it was me fishing for clues.
Also I just want to say that in your last post, someone said it was uncharacteristic of Nate to not know what the client really wanted (his reputation) because he was always so concerned with morality. And you said that it was the writers that were concerning themselves with morality, not Nate. I just wanted to say that I don't know if that's true. In The Reunion Job, Nate wouldn't take the case until Hardison told him WHY. You could argue that he was just pushing Hardison but why else would he push him if not for the sake of morality? I'm sure there are other instances where he's done something similar as well.
Also I wanted to ask your thoughts on the impression I have that everyone seems to have a specialty that is specific to them except Sophie. Everyone can grift pretty exceptionally. Even Parker. Parker's limitations with grifting clearly aren't stopping her from being completely excellent at it. Anyway I'm not complaining. I just want to know your thoughts on it. It seems if Sophie didn't show up for work, she wouldn't really be missed. Aside from her general awesome-ness (and we all love looking at Gina Bellman).
@ArtConnery - as long as someone wants something or needs something that they can't easily get themselves, they can be "conned." It doesn't really matter whether they're honest or not.
I get what you're saying that LeGrange was more impervious to being bought with bribes or back-door deals, but I'm not sure that's exactly the same as him being impervious to being conned altogehter.
I just thought it was an unusual choice of phrasing and not entirely accurate - either in the show's reality or in the real reality.
Loved this episode, it felt like classic Leverage. Sophie getting deeper and deeper into deal making and ending up with Fort Devereaux was brilliant :D Also the "her hoo-ha" line was line of the season so far.
Couldn't really buy Parker as a coach but I like that you're opening up the characters into doing different things. Obviously this is all part of Nate's master plan, whatever it turns out to be. And I'm pretty sure we're not going to be thrilled with that.
Q1) I know Coach Cornell just wanted her girls safe, but did the team ever find a way to get her back into cheerleading as a coach?
Q2) What's the actual episode number vs. the airing episode number for this one?
Q3) Was Nate forcing Parker to interact with people just like he was forcing Eliot to plan for the same reason or was that a happy accident for him?
Q4) What letter was the RICO case plan?
Q5) Why wasn't it wasn't easier to go after the bad guy in this one and install a new person to change the policies of the company if she was the crux of the problem. That would have been easier wouldn't it? 5b) Did Nate force the bigger congress play for a reason?
Q6) Did Sophie stay sitting down so she wouldn't get noticed by the mark like everyone else did?
O1) Hardison teaching Eliot how to mess with the mike - so cute and so Mr. Punchy.
Q7) Did Nate basically make the most of the crew run their own con and if so was it on purpose?
Q8) Was it really just a lunch that bought that guy off or more we didn't see?
Q9) Did Nate assign who got which senator because they both seem perfect for which team member they got. They seemed like both the perfect mark for each of our crew while simultaneously being the perfect kryptonite. Hardison getting the numbers/system lady, Sophie getting the Chain of Deals (basically grifting) man, and Eliot getting the "For Service of Country" guy. It seems more like they might have benefited from "The think/be like someone else approach" from the First David Job. And Nate, of course, got the easy target.
Q10)Who's idea was it to show the parallels of conning and grifting to Congress? And was it something that you had to tone down? Is it so much worse in real life?
Q11) Nate seem to be mentoring Eliot this epiosde. Is this going to be a trend, him backing up and guiding the crew more than masterminding the con?
O2) He's become very, very calm and very, very quiet compared to our normally super controlling Nate. Like a lot of people, this worries me.
Q12) I know you said there were themes for each season, last season being consequences. What's the theme for this season?
Q13) Did Nate ultimately know the name dropping/yearbook photo/publicity hook on the LeGrange or did he just know the "Some people want to keep serving" hook? Eliot didn't specify which hook he knew Nate knew.
Q14) I know "Bring it on!" was probably on purpose, who wrote it in?
Q15)Did the Wolves cheer performance include the crossing flips like the laser grid because of Parker's influence or am I just reading too much into that? 15b) How did the cheerleaders do with the laser exercise, performance wise?
O3) Nice evil speech of evil.
Q16) How did the federal agents get that warrant so fast?
Q17) How many lobbyists/Pac people did ultimately Sophie play?
I have no words for how much this episode was awesome. My boyfriend interns for the Oregon Governor's office (You should totally ask the governor on the show, I know he visited the set of Grimm at least once) and got a real kick out of watching the Leverage team navigate some of the bureaucracy that I get to hear about so often.
Also! Did you know...? In Oregon in particular positions like the County Medical Examiner needn't have any actual qualifications for the job because it's an elected position where people often run unopposed? There was a really crazy story on NPR about a dentist ME who received a (african american) woman from a local hospital and put down the cause of death as 'drug related' because of the injection site of the IV in her arm. This was discovered by the family when they needed a coroner's report for their malpractice suit against the hospital. Needless to say lots of people were horrified. There's lots of interesting little things buried in elected offices...
Right... Onto question.
We've had proof in the past that various team members would be terrifying if they bent their skills to certain fields. Sophie and politics. Parker and Cheerleading. Hardison and Accounting. Those are the ones I spotted in this episode. What would you say is something the Leverage team would be really good at but shouldn't do because it would just terrify the audience with it's possibilities?
I really liked this one. Parker was awesome as cheerleader coach and Sophie with al her accents.
Nate thinks he have no weaknesses. C'Mon. Is he really that megalomaniacal?
The last scene with Eliot made me think. I'm not sure what Nate's big plans might be but I'm sure it won't end well. It seems like he is preparing the team for a time without him. Maybe there one last big con and he is not sure how it will end. So I have a antoher question not realted to the episode.
Is Ian Blackpoole coming back this season? Or maybe it has to do something with Sterling?
It's not really a real question, (and absolutely not a writing one) but why the heck was the coaching doing CPR on a fallen cheerleader? SERIOUSLY. I mean, Parker joking aside, a first responder should have made sure she's breakthing, and then secured her head / neck and waited for the ambulance to arrive.
It's just a pet peeve of mine, how bad all actors are at doing the right thing for an injury. Does no one have common sense?
So after watching that episode, I am sure of three things.1) Sophie and her brokering solved the energy crisis. 2)Hardison can (and should) audit the federal budget and find all the money we're spending on defense projects that DoD doesn't want, artificial working hemorrhoids, etc. 3)Since Hardison is fictional, if all the laws he referenced were orange boxes, I can use that information to hack the federal contrating system, stymie the evil corporations, and find money for transit on the new Tappan Zee bridge. Right?
I was wondering if any of the old regulations Hardisons finds are genuine?
It also reminds me of when i saw a documentary about the controversies of cheerleading with the thought process going something like - whats so controvesrsial about... sweet mother of god those statistics are terrifying. Although i suppose thats what its like for your poor poor researchers all the time.
Glad you addressed the Title 9 BS when it comes to cheerleading not being a sport. Saw the Penn and Teller episode about it a couple of years ago, and was amazed it wasn't a bigger story.
I love your show, one of the best show's on television bar none.
Greatly enjoyed that one... not hard to show that Congress is mostly a grifters game, seems like Sophie was a natural :) And I was surprised that despite Parker's skills we didn't actually see her do any acrobatics in this story!
And best of all for me... Eliot calling himself "Stephen Turner" throughout the con? That just stood out to me big time :) It's common enough I know, but I'd love to check if there was any reason for using the name...
Parker is getting used to hugging nowadays, isn't she? :)
Sophie's accent.. unh. Terrific!
Nate is still a bastard. He really loves to keep secret even from his team.
And it reminds me back to the ending episode 1. When he thanked Hardison for lying. And what's with Eliot's last gaze? He knows something is up right? Is Nate really dying???
I'm dying to know.
Also I'm not a robot but that captcha is unreadable fml.
Early in the episode, when Parker's in DC, and Skyping with the team at Leverage HQ, were the graphics (and Beth) on a practical projection screen that the actors could see and react to? Or was it a green screen burn-in? It looked practical to me, so if it was a burn in, kudos on that.
So a lot of gret stuff this episode, but all my thoughts are on Nate and Elliot. Tim and Christian really knocked this one out of the park.
And was it just me, or did Nate look for excused to have 1 on 1 time with the team this ep. Giving many (Parker, esp) of them a "yep, my kids have grown up" look.
Something big happened between the pilot and the rest of Season 1 didn't it? (And it wasn't something awesome like teaming up with Miranda Zero.) And Nate has had a game plan the whole time, hasn't he?
I'm disappointed with the shows increasingly poor realtionship with reality. The show's alway been clever and sometimes stretched credulity but not so much as to really bother me. That is no longer the case. I can't believe that nobody's commenting on this. A few points that irritated me in this episode:
1) The cheerleader gets dropped to start out the show. Not just fumbled - dead dropped with such force so as to put her in a wheelchair. What do we think happened? As she went up in the air did suddenly everyone fall prey to the Ebola virus? Did they all have pot brownies that kicked in at the same time? As she's going up there are at least three people watching her closely, and then she suddenly drops like a stone. It would have been so easy to put in something realistic like, say, as she's coming down there's an extremely loud noise or crash and everyone is momentarily distracted.
2) Somehow, the FBI was able to put together a Ricoh task force in, what, a few hours? Aren't Ricoh Act cases notoriously hard to put together? Is it credible that this could have been done in a few hours?
3) Is it credible that, after balking at the "legality" warning that Hardison put up for one of the companies, that the guy would go ahead and commit a blatantly illegal act without at least calling nnnn? No it is not. Maybe if they threw in a scene where he is clearly conflicted and tries to call nnnn but Hardison has blocked his cell phone so he decides to do it anyway, I would be okay with that. Or even, when he calls nnnn, if he simply says "I tried to reach you before I did the transfer but couldn't", that might be enough for me to say "unlikely, but it could have happened".
4) As the FBI drags away xxxx at the end, they don't SAY anything to her other than grabbing her and saying, "come with us"? Really? Is this credible? Don't they usually say, oh I don't know, "Are you nnn", "you're wanted for questioning" or something like that?
I know that this isn't a reality show (not that those are really real either), but I expect more effort on the part of the writers to maintain the quality level of the show and this is done, in part, by writing scenes that at least COULD happen in the real world. This show, is supposed to be happening in the real world. Dogs don't have seven feet and there are no flying zebras. C'mon writers, put just a little more effort into it.
There are very few shows that I've dropped after watching from the beginning, but this is coming close to being one.
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Così, quanti norme di salute e sicurezza hai dovuto disputare per mettere in scena il torneo di cheerleading? ;) E c'era una storia vera che ha ispirato questo?
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So, how many health and safety regulations did you have to wrangle in order to stage the cheerleading tournament? ;) And was there a real story that inspired this one?
ReplyDeleteSuspicious Eliot is suspicious.
Where to start? The scene where Parker and Eliot debate over Hardison dangling, the scene where Eliot nearly loses his cool-"C'mon damn why not?GRRRRRR", Nate showing he is the ULTIMATE mastermind, Sophie and her 50 accents, Parker showing her soft side with the girls, it was all wonderful. My question is this John-does Aldis improv some lines? Last week it was "Don't hate on the bbq, hate on the sides", and this week it was "Oh now your in my pool guppy". Both cracked me up!
ReplyDeleteang, I heard that line as don't hate the bbq, hate the SAUCE, but I like your version better.
DeleteThis was an awesome episode, I have to say. I'm just wondering, for any other commenter, what did Eliot say to Nate at the very end. It looked significant, but I was distracted and didn't catch it.
ReplyDeleteI'd ask how hard it was for Gina to shift from so many different accents in one ep., but...it's Gina. I'd ask how long it took her to nail each accent, but...um, it's Gina. So instead I'll just ask; Who's idea was it for her to do so many in one episode and had an idea like this been planned or was it just the episode dictating so many?
ReplyDelete@Lydia, basically Eliot knows Nate is up to something and said he hopes Nate will tell him what it is soon.
ReplyDelete@SueN.
ReplyDeleteThanks! I thought so but I wanted to make sure.
First Hardison and now Eliot. Is Nate going to end up having basically the same conversation with every single member of the team? Because that could make things very interesting. :-)
ReplyDelete(Really, captcha? REALLY? A picture of a hinge? What in heaven's name am I supposed to do with a picture of a hinge? Geesh!)
That last exchange between Nate and Eliot has me thinking. At the end of season 4, Nate said he had big plans and now it seems, at least this time, he tried to get Eliot to think more like a grifter. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks Nate's big plan has all five of our Leverage crew running crews of their own in an effort to pull off the biggest con in history and take down the biggest villain ever. What's bigger than one crew conning someone? 5 crews conning someone? ...... Thanks to Reynolds for my lovely reflective hat.
ReplyDeleteWhen the folks in the audience held up the "Badgers" sign, was that to support the cheer squad from Larry Duberman's alma mater or a different school with the same mascot?
ReplyDeleteThis was a near-perfect episode. From the casting of the gorgeous, Demi Moore-like Danielle Bisutti to the way Congress was depicted (topical, seemingly accurate, and funny as hell), and excellent uses for our intrepid heroes, this one just kept moving with great twists and turns while staying relatively linear. I have more fun moments than I have questions, so here's the tally (hassle in Tallahassee, to quote Dan Rather).
ReplyDelete1. How did Hardison introduce HR505 in the first place? Was he already working in the Congresswoman's office?
2. It seemed pretty obvious that the team, at least Nate and Eliot, was "made" in the hearing scene, yet they were more interested in Bisutti's facial expression than that fact. Was the audience supposed to be ahead of the team, was it intentional misdirection, or... something else?
3. Nate thinks he has "no weaknesses"? SERIOUSLY?? Even after the episode in a previous season where he had to con someone as if he were conning himself? I'd thought his self-awareness was improving, but that seems a dangerous gap for him to have.
4. In one of the scenes between Nate and Eliot in Congress, Kane had a hair sticking out on his right side. Was there a point to it? (Pun intended!)
5. Parker's "All AAH" and Eliot's wink to Hardison - hilarious!
6. Nice tip of the fedora to Indiana Jones - "Corn subsidies! Why did it have to be corn subsidies?"
7. Loved "War & Peace with math", the "Ready... ready... let's go" duality, and "Fort Devereaux".
8. "Bring it on!" Seriously? Or did you feel it was expected and you HAD to use it? :)
9. I'm gonna keep on praising LoDuca until (and after) you put out another Leverage soundtrack album. STELLAR work on the "casing lasers" scene and the "Let's grift" walk, among others (the Middle Eastern bit was another good one).
Keep up the fabulous work, team!
I love the silly banter between Eliot and Hardison. I was just wondering how much of that is scripted and how much is ad lib by the guys? I'm thinking of the tree frog bit in particular.
ReplyDeleteI'm just gonna lay it out there right now. If you mess up the best ensemble on ALL OF TELEVISION, I'm totally breaking up with you.
ReplyDeletePEP HQ was the Boston federal courthouse, right? You had lots of DC exterior shots -- if I'm right about the HQ, why a Boston shot for that one? .
ReplyDeleteNate thinks he has "no weaknesses"? SERIOUSLY?? Even after the episode in a previous season where he had to con someone as if he were conning himself? I'd thought his self-awareness was improving, but that seems a dangerous gap for him to have.
ReplyDeleteI could be wrong here, but I just took that as macho posturing between Nate and Eliot. Rogers has said before that Nate is pretty self-aware about his own failings.
I thought this was the best episode of the season. I love how clever it was, how topical and relevant it was and the fast pacing of the con. I wasn't as crazy about the subplot with Parker getting all earnest, but I'll take it any day when the rest of the episode is that good.
Also, kudos on the cheerleader villain. She was spot on, and I love her line about knowing a few things about quarterbacks.
But I am so totally not kidding about breaking up with you!! Because right now, it so looks like Nate is retiring and getting the team ready to be a 4fer or a 3fer, and the 5 actors are so straight up magic together, that even the possibility of that is just awful terrible maddening!
Nate and Eliot had a back and fourth this week about “good people” this makes me wonder. Does Nate even believe in “good people”? People that do the right thing simply because it’s the right thing.
ReplyDeleteHow much of this was "must. suppress. gag. reflex" and how much of this was "bloviating is fun!"? Did you make all the writers give stump speeches? I was particularly impressed with the "as someone who once did something vaguely related, I'm going to pretend that I am now an expert on this subject" trope.
ReplyDeleteFort Devereaux -- snerk.
I'm loving watching how Nate's obviously preparing the rest of the team for ... something. Can't wait to find out what it is, although I have a guess and it's got me very, very nervous.
ReplyDeleteQuestions:
1. Was any of the Pep stuff inspired by/based on CrossFit?
2. By any chance was Sophie's assistant "Ginger" a shoutout to The West Wing?
My compliments on the handling of the cheerleading stuff. You had fun with it without taking all the easy, predictable digs, and you raised some legit points about the safety issues.
This one took a while to hook me in I think...but when it came together at the end it was great.
ReplyDeleteI still feel Bring It On did cheerleading better, but then that's the only thing I have to compare it to, lol.
I'm really getting the feeling that Nate is grooming Eliot in his own way...actually, he seems to be grooming everyone in some form. Interesting. Oh, and it looks like Eliot has the same thoughts. That is not the expression you want to see on his face.
How long until we start to see some fallout/tension from what Nate is planning?
Watching this one having seen the Penn & Teller Bullshit on Cheerleading, and the massive greedy racket (let's call it what it is) that controls it, this one felt different to me. Like I'd done part of the research.
ReplyDeleteIt was great how each of the characters got their own place to go, but I think this might be the first episode where Eliot really didn't hit anybody.
I'm guessing that last look from Eliot means he's figured out something of Nate's plans.
Gina Bellman got the best laugh of the night, though, with that Hoo-Ha bit. And she had a lot of great stuff this episode. She was working hard on this one.
And while I love all the Leverage directors, there's just this characteristic feel to a Frakes episode that says "I'm bringing the funny".
Last but not least, didn't we have a pickup decision by this time last year? Should we take TNT's silence as ominous?
I'm with allyone on this one. It seems like Nate is spending a lot of effort into settling the team into the new digs and maneuvering everyone to function without him. It's almost like he's very slowly walking into the background though I haven't worked out what his motivation might be. This worries me with all the portents about the super teary-eyed season finale.
ReplyDelete@IMForeman A little google-fu shows that the Season 5 pickup was on August 12th last year. However TNT hasn't announced a renewal/cancel since the end of June so I wouldn't panic just yet.
Is it my imagination, or has the act-break structure changed? It seems like the acts are shorter & there's 6 instead of 5.
ReplyDeleteIMForeman - the show also started a month earlier last year, so more eps had been broadcast by the time August 12 rolled around.
ReplyDeleteI agree with allyone and antisocialbutterflie, it does feel like Nate is stepping away from the others a little bit with each passing episode. Or maybe a better way of putting it is that he's allowing them to step up more each week and do things on their own. I'm really hoping it's just Nate finally letting up a bit of his control-freak grip with this new found zen attitude of his.
ReplyDeleteI swear Rogers, possibly final season or (hopefully) not, if you kill one of the fab five it will be a total buzz kill.
Oh and by the way, that "hoo-ha" line read was fabulous! Totally hilarious.
I just have to say I know you are up to something. And I know you know you are up to something. And you know, we want to know what the something is you are up to, but you know what, I'm not sure I want to know, because, sometimes the not knowing is really much better.
ReplyDeleteSo thanks, I think.
Honestly, I didn't think season 5 could be better than all the others, bu the whole crew is fabulous. But I fear, this is a final season. And if you go on to other things, I will be both happy and sad.
I haven't cared about a TV show in ages. This is smart and funny and great, and I hope you keep doing things that make all of you very happy.
Thank you. For sure.
Oh, yeah: Whence came Sophie's minions? I felt like I should recognize them, but I didn't. Or is it just that all staffers are essentially interchangeable?
ReplyDelete@Vanessa: The show moved to a six-act structure in season 4. (Thank you, DVD commentaries!)
OK it's been hinted at and I'm putting pieces together. I REALLY hope I'm on the WRONG track. This season, from what I've observed so far, is strongly reflecting Season 1.
ReplyDeleteFirst, (filming benefits aside) Nate moves the team to a new city relatively close to their original HQ; i.e. Chicago to Los Angeles.
Second, the new office and even the reveal of the new office has a familiarity to the first.
Tonight's episode was super-political, just like in Homecoming Job.
Nate has been working on something top-secret that affects the team & you've said that he's this year's Big Bad. Eliot picked up on Nate's test of his mastermind skills.
All of this is drawing me to a conclusion that makes me squirmy, queasy, and sad. At the end of Season 1 the team broke up. They said their goodbyes & went their separate ways.
You've already said that the finale will make us cry. The story of this show has always had a symmetrical flavor and moved in circles. I hate to even post this comment, cuz it'll just increase the anxiety that everyone is feeling. Hopefully renewal news in not being held back because this is the end. Hopefully you would/will tell us when the story is over. Hopefully it is not over yet.
Okay, Rogers, I am trying my best not to panic here, but OMG WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING WITH NATE?!?!?
ReplyDelete*ahem*
Very nice ep. It was fun seeing the team so frustrated by having to deal with Congress (maybe the team's match when it comes to grift … and graft?). And I loved watching Sophie break out one persona after another. And naturally she could get a military installation named after her. ;)
And I do so love those moments when Nate and Eliot work together, when we get some insight into their relationship. Once again we see that Nate does respect Eliot's intelligence and thinks he's capable of more than just punching. Though, like Eliot, I wonder (and worry) about what exactly Nate seems to be grooming Eliot for.
Hardison had some great moments as well, from his frustration over the way funding is structured ("but they don't want the money!") to his eventual mastery and use of that very structure against the mark.
And Parker was wonderful, from her dismay at being "stuck" with the cheerleaders ("what do I know about teenage girls?") and her sorrow that they couldn't appreciate her beloved laser grid to her bonding moment with Madison. And I just loved her admission that the only thing that really scares her is letting down the people she cares about. Awww!!
I also appreciate that you didn't make all the congresscritters total douches. Despite the evidence offered by the giant pile of dung that is our current House, I'd like to think there are some members who can still do the right thing, even if for less than totally selfless reasons.
One question, though. Is cheerleading really not classified as a sport? If it's not, that's just totally wrong.
(btw, I hate, HATE the new wv system! My eyes can only take so much!)
Need to know, John: was the cheer team named the Wolves as an homage to the "Eliot signal" from the end of season four ("either a wolf or a knife")?
ReplyDeleteLoving the entire season so far and thank you for setting it in Portland. I have but two quick questions.
ReplyDelete1. I'm starting a Leverage RPG set in Portland (hometown is easy). Just so I can line my game up with show cannon, can I assume that the team eventually leaves Portland with some marks?
2. Please tell me that you've partnered with Bridgeport to make Thief Juice.
At the planning table, when Eliot told Parker that the thought of Hardison hanging upside down off a building was funny, it got me thinking...
ReplyDeleteSince everything seems to be going so well for Parker & Hardison (not perfect, but honestly not bad at all), would Eliot ever play a joke on Hardison and let Hardison believe there was something going on between Parker & Eliot? If, say, Hardison misunderstood something saw or over-heard and, instead of clearing things up, Eliot just let Hardison's imagination run amok for a bit. Just to tease him, because Eliot does need to get Hardison back for eating his special hand-crafted sandwich last season.
2nd question - this was another ep directed by Frakes. How many did he get to direct this season?
Thanks again for another interesting ep. I think you did a pretty good job giving each congressman/woman their own set of congressional priorities/concerns, and only 1 truly corrupt bought-for-a-(really good)-lunch congressman.
Oh, and can we get Hardison hired on Capital Hill, to weed out all the money that isn't getting used, and redistribute it to where it can be of use, or use it to lower the deficit? If we want smaller government, that would be a better first start than gutting medicare or getting rid of the EPA or Dept of Education.
Fantastic episode - loved it as per usual! My question...that look Eliot gave the retreating Nate at the very end...Eliot has guessed something's up, right? Do we see more of that during the rest of the season and if so, does it impact the relationship between the two of them...we know he'd do anything for Nate but is there a line, even for him?
ReplyDeleteThe stats given at the beginning, something like 3% of all female sports participants are in cheer, but 65% of the injuries are in cheer - are those accurate?? Crazy if that's real.
ReplyDeleteThis one was awesome. I loved watching Leverage Inc. come up against an obstacle that initially had the whole team flummoxed.. It felt like Nate was more setting challenges for his crew than running a con; Parker had to manage a group of emotionally fragile people (otherwise known as teenagers), Hardison, Elliot and Sophie all had respective, tougher-than-your-average-mark targets to try and hook, and Nate... well, he either gave himself the easy one or he really is much smarter than everyone else in his crew. To the questions!
ReplyDelete1) Is there an in-universe reason that Leverage Inc. doesn't keep a few more people around? Parker's grown as a grifter over the years, but the crew would still run more smoothly if they had Tara around as a part-time secondary grifter, or if they hired that Apollo guy from the Two Live Crew job to back up as a thief when Parker's out of position. Hardison is also growing more versatile, but a thief he ain't (the Truffle and Potato jobs come to mind).
2) This season seems a lot like it's setting up as a finale... please reassure me that this is not the case :(
3) Does Nate REALLY believe he has no weaknesses? It seems like an inordinate amount of time in this series has been devoted to meticulously identifying and describing the many ways Nate Ford is... not the most healthy man.
4) Did Hardison get a cheerleading company classified as a haberdashery? If so, how?
"bu-but, get this... they do not WANT the MONEY!"
My question is also the use of the name "Wolves" for the cheer team, but I was wondering if it was a callback to season 2 (I think) and the Zoe telling Nate her dad's story of the the world being full of wolves. Maybe I am reading way too much into this. ;)
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed this ep a lot but thought Parking going all after-school special was a bit much. Too mainstream. New Parker is not as interesting as Classic Parker.
ReplyDeleteThe comedy and banter this season is hilarious. I'm sure it has to do with the actors comfort with each other and the great writing.
ReplyDeleteKudos!!
My guess is Nate is grooming the team to run their own crews.
Am I close??
And can you give us a hint to Sophies real name episode reveal?
Now that Eliot has figured Nate is up to something, will he not trust him the rest of the season?
I see that Bob Jenkins managed to survive the Castleman take down in Season 1. Or was it another congressman with the same name?
ReplyDeleteReally liked the JJ character, and Eliot's interactions with him. The strangled 'come on' was perfect.
Loved the episode!
What was up with Eliot's look in the last minute? I can't decide if it was a "it'll be okay being onmy own" or a call back to the San Lorenzo Job "Would you ever leave the people you're with now?" look? Why do you hurt us?!
ReplyDeleteAm I right in assuming Tony Scott jumped after seeing this episode?
ReplyDeleteGreat episodes, the cheer leading stats seems real?
ReplyDeleteIs the fiction HR 505 motion passed meant for a state?
Oh, and let me add that hearing Sophie say, "I can see her hoo-haw, sir! Her hoo-haw!" was totally worth the price of admission.
ReplyDeleteI also loved Eliot's "Himalayan tree frog" line, complete with sound effects.
You people really are my crack.
I was really surprised by their plan in this episode, because it was hardly a con at all, they were straight-up lobbying !... using fake identities, sure, but other than that it could have been an episode from the West Wing. But seeing them completely caught off-guard by the political process was a beauty, we don't often see them this badly out of their depth.
ReplyDeleteIn fact the combination of them being out of their depth, and the "con" consisting of following the normal political process (as opposed to stealing a law for example...) sets up politics as a bigger, badder version of Crime World, which is hilarious.
Still, this kind of strikes me as a step up in seriousness for the Leverage team - going from running cons on individual companies to dictating national policy. Is this part of a pattern, or am I imagining the progression (after all they did steal a law way back when).
I was also wondering at how this intersects with the real world, whether the Leverage team were taking credit for an actual law that had passed or if they were setting right what is wrong in our world, and here's a relevant extract from Wikipedia :
"There has been debate on whether or not cheerleading can be considered a sport for Title IX purposes. Supporters consider cheerleading, as a whole, a sport, citing the heavy use of athletic talents while critics do not see it as deserving of that status since sport implies a competition among squads and not all squads compete, along with subjectivity of competitions where - as with gymnastics, diving, and figure skating - scores are assessed based on human judgment and not an objective goal or measurement of time.
On January 27, 2009, in a lawsuit involving an accidental injury sustained during a cheerleading practice, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled that cheerleading is a full-contact sport in that state. In contrast, on July 21, 2010, in a lawsuit involving whether college cheerleading qualified as a sport for purposes of Title IX, a federal court, citing a current lack of program development and organization, ruled that it does not, but may in the future."
So it looks like the Leverage team is taking a state decision to the national level. ("citing a current lack of program development and organization"... Now I'm wondering if a real-world equivalent of PEP has something to do with that)
Oh, and wait a minute... When the client's first expressed concern is for the safety of her kids, isn't putting them in the loving care of "Walk it off" Parker a massively irresponsible act, much as I love her ?
ReplyDeleteTwo episodes ago I thought Nate ignoring the client's wishes was a bit out of the blue but now...
A general comment (I would outright ask but I know you won't answer me) - I have to semi-agree with a comment from above that it seems like Nate is trying to "train" [not just Eliot, but] the whole team to be team leaders and read people themselves, take control, and do their own mastermind thinking. (Notice he also let Parker feel out and handle the situation with the one girl in the basement.) I don't see it as he is planning a giant [one mission] con that would have them branch out and lead their own groups all conning the same man/company, but it would seem more like branching out permanently and running their own crews to take down bad people/companies all over the world at the same time. Franchising, if you will.
ReplyDeleteYou guys keep coming up with interesting cons, I love it. I know I can't ask you about the obvious threads, so I won't, but one has an ominous feel to it.
ReplyDeleteRiffing off @Anonymous (12:25) … So we could be looking at the Leverage version of Batman, Inc.?
ReplyDelete@oppyu Regarding the quote "bu-but, get this... they do not WANT the MONEY!" this is so true. The DoD is practically shoveling it out on some of the craziest stuff. I'm a biomedical research IRL and any academic will tell you that if you have genuinely novel research screw the NIH. They won't give you jack s**t. They don't care if you have something new or revolutionary, the cash goes to the old and reliable.
ReplyDeleteThe DoD is the only way that anything cutting edge gets done because they have so much cash in hand that they can stand to flush it if a project doesn't work the way you expected (which frankly is exactly how science works). For example the focus project topics for this year included fragile X syndrome, Paget’s disease, and osteoporosis, none of which would affect active-duty soldiers.
It's great for us scientists but I always feel bad for the tax payers. If the NIH and NSF distributed money the way they are supposed to they wouldn't need to foist the high risk projects on the DoD.
BTW Sorry for the ranting. I was strongly empathizing with Hardison's pain this episode.
ReplyDeleteAAH! This was spectacular! Very difficult to single this particular ep out in awesomeness to any one cast member, so we'll say that they're ALL AWESOME! Questions:
ReplyDelete1. Why couldn't we actually see Parker do some gymnastic-y stuff? That was really my one regret of this ep.
2. Did Sophie really just forge a multi-national deal?
3. Seeing Parker open up was so sweet...just, more! Please!
4. Nate definitely has weaknesses. Right?
5. Were all of the laws Hardison was stonewalling the Busey with orange boxes, or did you stick some ledgers in there?
6. Why is Eliot suspicious?
7. Did Nate purposely give Eliot LeGrange? If so, what for? 7a. And was it really a test of Eliot's grifting/people skills, or something else?
8. RENEWAL?????????????
I loved yesterdays' episode it was a great change of pace.
ReplyDeleteAlso between Hardison's irritation at the crazy world of congress budgets, (and his glee at using them against the villains near the end) Elliot's irritation at having to try and con a "honest" man, Sophie's irritation at having to take part in a chain of deals the likes of which are normally reserved for unlocking a character's final weapon in an RPG, and Parker's irritation at having to put up with teenagers it was really a banner episode for Nate Ford take pleasure at the pain of others.
I also really liked how Sophie went from "I need an assistant" to seemingly having an entire office full of gophers to help keep her chain of deals straight, it plays nicely into her "pretty pretty princess" streak.
What I loved most however was Congressman Corrupty McBackscratch, though could you guys not get any good shots of him drinking whiskey and smoking a cigar in a dimly lit room just to complete the image?
It was fun episode to watch though I'm surprised we didn't get more of Parker teach gymnastics routines inspired by certain crimes she committed, though sadly that's probably just a downside of not having enough time to fit in all the wonderful stuff you could have done with a concept like Mr. Ford goes to Washington!gy
Little disappointed the cheer squad didn't do a more Parker-esque routine. But other than that loved it!
ReplyDeleteSo... that look on Eliot's face at the end of the last scene, it harkens back to "The First David Job", does it not? Eliot knows that Nate played him and you don't con your own crew!, right?
ReplyDeleteWell, at the very least the crew will be massively multi-talented by the end of the season. But you should keep in mind that many of us are not above violence in the right cause (ahem).
ReplyDeleteDo Nate and Eliot truly not realize that they may very well be the most vulnerable two on the team? Go after Sophie and Nate will go ballistic; go after anyone on the team and Eliot will make the wrath of God look remarkably like a summer day at the beach. Are we really supposed to believe that they don't know that about themselves?
As is usual with a Frakes episode, the funny was hysterical and front and center. I love when he gets to direct an ep.
On the whole it was a really good ep...but am I the only person who kept thinking of CK's role in the movie "Friday Night Lights" whenever we saw that Congressman? The best thing that ever happened to him was being QB in high school...and being a Congressman is just another step down.
I'm glad to see Parker struggling to be more human, but in the areas where she's succeeding, it seems she's going over the top -- as in her conversation with Madison. But I purely loved her reaction to Nate's statement that she'd *been* a teenage girl. "No, not so much," was written all over her face.
So, you just keep writing, guys, that's what you're good at, but be careful what you write. ;-)
This is one of the funniest episodes you've done, mostly because it is so true about congress. What I really found hilarious, though, was how you had to *simplify* the process, even though the point was how complex it is.
ReplyDeleteAll the team accomplished was getting a bill through a single committee. Assuming the bill only falls under one committee's jurisdiction, you still need to get through the committee in the Senate, then get the bill up for vote in the House, then actually pass the bill in the House, then get the bill to the floor on the Senate, then get 60 votes to end debate, then pass the bill in the Senate, then reconcile the differences between the House and Senate bill, then repeat the process with the new, identical bills, then get the president to sign it.
Fun episode last night! A team of con artists and thieves being so caught on their heels when being forced to lobby Congress - very inspired choice!
ReplyDeleteThe flashbacks to each of their failed initial attempts - except of course for Nate, who just happened to get the most corrupt Congressman on the planet - were hysterical. Also cool the way Nate set up the mark, so she had to take money from the insurance fund, which just happened to be the only illegal withdrawal she could make.
Can we have more open warfare between the team and the marks? They did it with Sterling, did it with Moreau and did it here, and everyone seems to have a blast, and it's soooo fun to watch.
The thing I wasn't sure about was Eliot's "You can't con an honest man." He doesn't really believe that right? 'Cause isn't that the premise of the whole show? That you can con, cheat and steal from honest people, and then the team helps honest people get even?
Again this week, great Eliot-Nate scenes.
I agree it seems like Nate is either retiring or setting up some kind of franchise system, and either way, and I also really hope the series doesn't end on a split team note!
Also, I may have mentioned this, but I hhhhhaaaaaaate the word verification! It's making me blind!!
Himalayan tree frog. Eliot. I'm loving his lines this season. Improv?
ReplyDeleteParker's basic gymnastics drill! Oh, boy...
"You can't con an honest man." Eliot called Nate an "honest man" in the pilot...That sounds like a clue to something in future episodes...Eliot is suspicious, isn't he?
By the way, Eliot, boy, tuck your shirt in and at least tie your hair back! And are those cargo pants? Who goes to Washington looking like that?
Thank you for making the cheerleaders look like normal teens (aka not all blonde and anorexic and plastic-looking). And male cheerleaders! Thank you!
Hardison not wanting to throw a book - Was that something Nana told him not to do?
Hoo-hah! lol!
Parker doesn't vote. I don't think any of the team does.
Ooh, mysterious Eliot look at the end there.
Great episode, lots of laughs and some nice development moments.
OK, so I'm really hoping we get another season. But, just in case, perhaps it would be nice to spin off the characters into their own teams and shows? I mean, if we have to lose Leverage, perhaps we could talk TNT into Nate's crew on Monday, Sophie's on Tuesday, Parker's on Wednesday, Hardison's on Thursday, and finish the week with Eliot's on Friday... and of course, a five-part epic crossover story sometime during the season so we can still get our team together for one big caper. Not that you have to write all of these, Rogers... but hey, you're doing so well with what you've given us so far!!!!
ReplyDeleteKeep up the great work, and I'm looking forward to the novels early next year too!!!
Loved the 'Ginger' West Wing reference - and the music at the end was very TWW-ish too. I'm just always very happy when I get these things
ReplyDelete1. I'm liking the whole Portland setting, really, but couldn't you do a con linking with the other Portland, the FIRST one? You're a New Englander, have you run out of ideas to do here? (What if the Stanley Cup was in Portland, ME)?
ReplyDelete2. When do you learn as producers, whether or not your show will be picked up for another season? Do you just wait until you hear from them or do you go and lobby them or wait for ratings or fan pressure? I am so totally addicted to this show and all the actors, it's disturbing.
Two more things : first, you know, everytime I read the title of this episode I see something new. It is pretty masterful, good job. Who thought of it ?
ReplyDeleteSecond, I bought the first season of Leverage on DVD ! I am enjoying watching them all again, and I am REALLY enjoying the commentaries. You guys all seem to be fun and smart people ! I'm mostly posting this because in the first episode commentary you talk about how you got picked up for a second season, and then Dean says something like "of course maybe now we're in our fifth season so you should buy all the other DVDs". So that was amusing to me :)
Which makes me wonder, did you have specific ideas about how the show would be like by Season 5, and how close are things now to what you were thinking of back in season 1 ?
(and are captchas a long-running effort to develop computers that recognize letters better than humans do ? Because they're getting seriously illegible to my human eyes)
John, I so appreciate your quick turnaround lately on our questions. I have one more. When PEP was trying to find the money to transfer and Hardison kept blocking them, where did they think the warning messages were coming from? Would it be some kind of software companies have to alert them to potential ethics or liability problems in running their business? I haven't seen anything like that out there. Thanks for your generosity of time. Loving this season.
ReplyDeleteugh. i know nothing about cheer competitions, so that portion didn't bother me. but i've worked with the folks on the Hill for most of my career as an issue advocate, and i can only hope you never, ever revisit congress. this has to have been the worst episode you've fielded so far. "federal high school athletics committee"? i nearly choked on my breakfast. it would have made more sense to steal a federal judge.
ReplyDeleteOkay, now Eliot knows that Nate was judging his people-manipulation skills. Nate’s method was sort of sneaky, but his wanting to know Eliot’s strengths and weaknesses is reasonable for the team leader. So why did Eliot narrow his very pretty big blue eyes and shank Nate with the glare of suspicion? What tipped him off that Nate has more than skill assessment going on?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous @ 12:25pm said one possible plan was to franchise our Leverage team. Nothing wrong with that suggestion, but since that suggests our team splitting up, quite possibly for good, I'm hoping for the 'one big con' scenario proposed by Anonymous @ 6:29pm.
ReplyDelete@oona The idea behind "You can't con an honest man" is that an honest man will always do the right thing. He will not take advantage of his position to screw over someone or screw over anyone in general even if means he will gain from it immensely. He cannot be manipulated by vices. Now if you threaten his loved ones, that's another story. I see you Burn Notice. In general I'd say you were correct on the premise, but the team steals back what was taken UNFAIRLY due to power or position and the little guy can't get it back due to lack of funds or immunity from prosecution, etc. If they could help themselves, they wouldn't need the team.
ReplyDelete@IzzieI'm not sure if you saw the season 2 finale. up until then, Nate considered himself an honest man, an upright citizen that bent or broke the law to redress the wrongs of the world.At the end of that episode, he gets himself arrested and laughs at the irony that he really is a thief and declares that to the puzzlement of Stirling. Eliot is a young Wilford Brimley from "The Firm"
Didn't Sophie express her disgust of politics in the San lorenzo Job?
Full disclosure: I'm a conservative Republican who disagrees with plenty of the political stuff you've posted on here.
ReplyDeleteNow that that's out of the way, thank you for not making LeGrange into the standard strawman conservative character. It seemed like things were heading in that direction with his initial comments about spending but the establishment of the character made it clear he was a good and honest guy. We're not all bad people, you know. :)
Re: Hardison's reaction to the governmental system. Back in 2008, a few Googlers left Google to join the Obama Administration. Per Steven Levy's book on Google, In the Plex, within a year or two they'd left, mostly out of frustration due to not being able to get things done. One, a non-engineer, was quoted as wishing there were engineers in government, as she wasn't finding any, and her experience at Google was that engineers solve problems and get stuff done.
ReplyDelete@ Art_Connery: Yes, I did watch that episode. Connecting the two "honest man" speeches was my way of saying that I have no idea what's coming next and the rest of it was me fishing for clues.
ReplyDeleteWhat's going on with Parker not voting?
ReplyDeleteAlso I just want to say that in your last post, someone said it was uncharacteristic of Nate to not know what the client really wanted (his reputation) because he was always so concerned with morality. And you said that it was the writers that were concerning themselves with morality, not Nate. I just wanted to say that I don't know if that's true. In The Reunion Job, Nate wouldn't take the case until Hardison told him WHY. You could argue that he was just pushing Hardison but why else would he push him if not for the sake of morality? I'm sure there are other instances where he's done something similar as well.
Also I wanted to ask your thoughts on the impression I have that everyone seems to have a specialty that is specific to them except Sophie. Everyone can grift pretty exceptionally. Even Parker. Parker's limitations with grifting clearly aren't stopping her from being completely excellent at it. Anyway I'm not complaining. I just want to know your thoughts on it. It seems if Sophie didn't show up for work, she wouldn't really be missed. Aside from her general awesome-ness (and we all love looking at Gina Bellman).
Did ya'll actually have someone utter the phrase "bring it on" in a cheerleader episode? Ha.
ReplyDelete@ArtConnery - as long as someone wants something or needs something that they can't easily get themselves, they can be "conned." It doesn't really matter whether they're honest or not.
ReplyDeleteI get what you're saying that LeGrange was more impervious to being bought with bribes or back-door deals, but I'm not sure that's exactly the same as him being impervious to being conned altogehter.
I just thought it was an unusual choice of phrasing and not entirely accurate - either in the show's reality or in the real reality.
Loved this episode, it felt like classic Leverage. Sophie getting deeper and deeper into deal making and ending up with Fort Devereaux was brilliant :D Also the "her hoo-ha" line was line of the season so far.
ReplyDeleteCouldn't really buy Parker as a coach but I like that you're opening up the characters into doing different things. Obviously this is all part of Nate's master plan, whatever it turns out to be. And I'm pretty sure we're not going to be thrilled with that.
No questions, just really enjoyed this one :)
Q1) I know Coach Cornell just wanted her girls safe, but did the team ever find a way to get her back into cheerleading as a coach?
ReplyDeleteQ2) What's the actual episode number vs. the airing episode number for this one?
Q3) Was Nate forcing Parker to interact with people just like he was forcing Eliot to plan for the same reason or was that a happy accident for him?
Q4) What letter was the RICO case plan?
Q5) Why wasn't it wasn't easier to go after the bad guy in this one and install a new person to change the policies of the company if she was the crux of the problem. That would have been easier wouldn't it? 5b) Did Nate force the bigger congress play for a reason?
Q6) Did Sophie stay sitting down so she wouldn't get noticed by the mark like everyone else did?
O1) Hardison teaching Eliot how to mess with the mike - so cute and so Mr. Punchy.
Q7) Did Nate basically make the most of the crew run their own con and if so was it on purpose?
Q8) Was it really just a lunch that bought that guy off or more we didn't see?
Q9) Did Nate assign who got which senator because they both seem perfect for which team member they got. They seemed like both the perfect mark for each of our crew while simultaneously being the perfect kryptonite. Hardison getting the numbers/system lady, Sophie getting the Chain of Deals (basically grifting) man, and Eliot getting the "For Service of Country" guy. It seems more like they might have benefited from "The think/be like someone else approach" from the First David Job. And Nate, of course, got the easy target.
Q10)Who's idea was it to show the parallels of conning and grifting to Congress? And was it something that you had to tone down? Is it so much worse in real life?
Q11) Nate seem to be mentoring Eliot this epiosde. Is this going to be a trend, him backing up and guiding the crew more than masterminding the con?
O2) He's become very, very calm and very, very quiet compared to our normally super controlling Nate. Like a lot of people, this worries me.
Q12) I know you said there were themes for each season, last season being consequences. What's the theme for this season?
Q13) Did Nate ultimately know the name dropping/yearbook photo/publicity hook on the LeGrange or did he just know the "Some people want to keep serving" hook? Eliot didn't specify which hook he knew Nate knew.
Q14) I know "Bring it on!" was probably on purpose, who wrote it in?
Q15)Did the Wolves cheer performance include the crossing flips like the laser grid because of Parker's influence or am I just reading too much into that? 15b) How did the cheerleaders do with the laser exercise, performance wise?
O3) Nice evil speech of evil.
Q16) How did the federal agents get that warrant so fast?
Q17) How many lobbyists/Pac people did ultimately Sophie play?
I have no words for how much this episode was awesome. My boyfriend interns for the Oregon Governor's office (You should totally ask the governor on the show, I know he visited the set of Grimm at least once) and got a real kick out of watching the Leverage team navigate some of the bureaucracy that I get to hear about so often.
ReplyDeleteAlso! Did you know...? In Oregon in particular positions like the County Medical Examiner needn't have any actual qualifications for the job because it's an elected position where people often run unopposed? There was a really crazy story on NPR about a dentist ME who received a (african american) woman from a local hospital and put down the cause of death as 'drug related' because of the injection site of the IV in her arm. This was discovered by the family when they needed a coroner's report for their malpractice suit against the hospital. Needless to say lots of people were horrified. There's lots of interesting little things buried in elected offices...
Right... Onto question.
We've had proof in the past that various team members would be terrifying if they bent their skills to certain fields. Sophie and politics. Parker and Cheerleading. Hardison and Accounting. Those are the ones I spotted in this episode. What would you say is something the Leverage team would be really good at but shouldn't do because it would just terrify the audience with it's possibilities?
ReplyDeleteI really liked this one. Parker was awesome as cheerleader coach and Sophie with al her accents.
Nate thinks he have no weaknesses. C'Mon. Is he really that megalomaniacal?
The last scene with Eliot made me think. I'm not sure what Nate's big plans might be but I'm sure it won't end well. It seems like he is preparing the team for a time without him. Maybe there one last big con and he is not sure how it will end. So I have a antoher question not realted to the episode.
Is Ian Blackpoole coming back this season? Or maybe it has to do something with Sterling?
It's not really a real question, (and absolutely not a writing one) but why the heck was the coaching doing CPR on a fallen cheerleader? SERIOUSLY. I mean, Parker joking aside, a first responder should have made sure she's breakthing, and then secured her head / neck and waited for the ambulance to arrive.
ReplyDeleteIt's just a pet peeve of mine, how bad all actors are at doing the right thing for an injury. Does no one have common sense?
So after watching that episode, I am sure of three things.1) Sophie and her brokering solved the energy crisis. 2)Hardison can (and should) audit the federal budget and find all the money we're spending on defense projects that DoD doesn't want, artificial working hemorrhoids, etc. 3)Since Hardison is fictional, if all the laws he referenced were orange boxes, I can use that information to hack the federal contrating system, stymie the evil corporations, and find money for transit on the new Tappan Zee bridge. Right?
ReplyDeleteI was wondering if any of the old regulations Hardisons finds are genuine?
ReplyDeleteIt also reminds me of when i saw a documentary about the controversies of cheerleading with the thought process going something like - whats so controvesrsial about... sweet mother of god those statistics are terrifying. Although i suppose thats what its like for your poor poor researchers all the time.
Glad you addressed the Title 9 BS when it comes to cheerleading not being a sport. Saw the Penn and Teller episode about it a couple of years ago, and was amazed it wasn't a bigger story.
ReplyDeleteI love your show, one of the best show's on television bar none.
"Ashley Madison" - seriously? Was that intentional?
ReplyDeleteGreatly enjoyed that one... not hard to show that Congress is mostly a grifters game, seems like Sophie was a natural :) And I was surprised that despite Parker's skills we didn't actually see her do any acrobatics in this story!
ReplyDeleteAnd best of all for me... Eliot calling himself "Stephen Turner" throughout the con? That just stood out to me big time :) It's common enough I know, but I'd love to check if there was any reason for using the name...
Parker is getting used to hugging nowadays, isn't she? :)
ReplyDeleteSophie's accent.. unh. Terrific!
Nate is still a bastard. He really loves to keep secret even from his team.
And it reminds me back to the ending episode 1. When he thanked Hardison for lying. And what's with Eliot's last gaze? He knows something is up right? Is Nate really dying???
I'm dying to know.
Also I'm not a robot but that captcha is unreadable fml.
Oh, a technical question occurred to me...
ReplyDeleteEarly in the episode, when Parker's in DC, and Skyping with the team at Leverage HQ, were the graphics (and Beth) on a practical projection screen that the actors could see and react to? Or was it a green screen burn-in? It looked practical to me, so if it was a burn in, kudos on that.
So a lot of gret stuff this episode, but all my thoughts are on Nate and Elliot. Tim and Christian really knocked this one out of the park.
ReplyDeleteAnd was it just me, or did Nate look for excused to have 1 on 1 time with the team this ep. Giving many (Parker, esp) of them a "yep, my kids have grown up" look.
Something big happened between the pilot and the rest of Season 1 didn't it? (And it wasn't something awesome like teaming up with Miranda Zero.) And Nate has had a game plan the whole time, hasn't he?
I'm disappointed with the shows increasingly poor realtionship with reality.
ReplyDeleteThe show's alway been clever and sometimes stretched credulity but not so much
as to really bother me. That is no longer the case. I can't believe that nobody's
commenting on this. A few points that irritated me in this episode:
1) The cheerleader gets dropped to start out the show. Not just fumbled - dead dropped
with such force so as to put her in a wheelchair. What do we think happened? As she
went up in the air did suddenly everyone fall prey to the Ebola virus? Did they all have pot
brownies that kicked in at the same time? As she's going up there are at least three
people watching her closely, and then she suddenly drops like a stone. It would have
been so easy to put in something realistic like, say, as she's coming down there's an
extremely loud noise or crash and everyone is momentarily distracted.
2) Somehow, the FBI was able to put together a Ricoh task force in, what, a few hours?
Aren't Ricoh Act cases notoriously hard to put together? Is it credible that this could
have been done in a few hours?
3) Is it credible that, after balking at the "legality" warning that Hardison put up for
one of the companies, that the guy would go ahead and commit a blatantly illegal act without
at least calling nnnn? No it is not. Maybe if they threw in a scene where he is clearly
conflicted and tries to call nnnn but Hardison has blocked his cell phone so he decides
to do it anyway, I would be okay with that. Or even, when he calls nnnn, if he simply
says "I tried to reach you before I did the transfer but couldn't", that might be enough
for me to say "unlikely, but it could have happened".
4) As the FBI drags away xxxx at the end, they don't SAY anything to her other than grabbing
her and saying, "come with us"? Really? Is this credible? Don't they usually say, oh I don't know,
"Are you nnn", "you're wanted for questioning" or something like that?
I know that this isn't a reality show (not that those are really real either), but I expect
more effort on the part of the writers to maintain the quality level of the show and this
is done, in part, by writing scenes that at least COULD happen in the real world. This show,
is supposed to be happening in the real world. Dogs don't have seven feet and there are no
flying zebras. C'mon writers, put just a little more effort into it.
There are very few shows that I've dropped after watching from the beginning, but this is
coming close to being one.
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