Yeah, that's Kane doing all his own damn skating and fighting. Ask your questions, and I'll get to them as soon as I'm done wrapping the SEASON 5 FINALE!
Kane does everything better. Love the singing,acting,& I keep telling him to wear the muscle shirts,etc. so we can see more of that body he hides way too much.
Question: Why did Hardison blow torch the cash box aka what was the purpose for stealing that money? Was that where they got the $500,000 that went to Marko? (It just didn't really look like $500k in those pouches.)
I have always wondered the back story that attributed to Eliot's fondness for kids (wow that sounds bad). Any chance that info will pop up this season?
Did Vlad call Sophie "Rosa" before he left? Could that be her real name? Lovely establishing shots of Portland. I especially liked the St. Johns Bridge.
Loved the ep! Treat Williams always does a fine turn as a bad guy, and it was fun to see Eliot finally get the "fight on ice" he's been preparing for since S3. ;) Also, with the increasing attention to the issue of athletes and repeated concussions and revelations about the New Orleans Saints paying bounties for hits, the story was (sadly) relevant.
I also loved the bit at the beginning where Sophie displays some knowledge of hockey … and Nate immediately knows it means she stole something hockey-related. And, of ourse, Nate getting into a staring contest with a turtle, because he totally would. Also, Eliot's "bad choices" talk with Marco was a very lovely moment.
I also loved Vlad. It's always nice to see people from the team members' pasts, and I could totally believe that he and Sophie had worked together before, and that they cared about each other. He's a very nice addition to the Leverage 'verse.
At this point (having only seen the ep twice, lol) I just have one question, re: Parker's "did I fall asleep again?" and Hardison's "Soylent Green is people!" (which, btw, was priceless). Does Hardison live at the new headquarters?
Anyway, welcome back! I knew I'd missed y'all, but I really had no idea just how much until last week and this ep. I'm so glad to see Our Team on my TV screen again!
Whose idea was the turtle? I think I have a new favourite one-shot character :D
I was wondering about 'Rosa', too...I thought it was just an endearment of some sort but it doesn't sound Russian. Sophie's name? A con ID? Are we ever going to know it?
C. Marko = Juggernaut? And was Busiek a reference to Portland-area based comics writer Kurt Busiek? And you realize if this had happened last season in Boston, Eliot would've fought a Bruin/Bear.
I dunno; I can't buy that a World Hockey League would even consider Portland for a single USA team. It's only got the population to support 1.5 major league teams (the .5 for the soccer team, which is doing quite well with respect to other MLS teams), It's not a major media outlet. It's got the West Coast time zone disadvantage for East and Central viewing, and isn't a hockey hotbed. Such a team would shoot for New York, maybe Chicago, Boston, or Philly.
Ditto the base plot; so Marko gets 500K if he fights in every single game, and so they're trying to take him out by putting bounties on him. But doesn't he get taken out if the team doctor says "This man will die if he gets hit with a feather pillow" and has the MRI/x-rays to prove it?
And sorry, I know the answer to me back when is your canonical goto for when folk complain about how easy it is to find the team and why it just doesn't matter, but really; a 15-17 year old kid finds them when they've been in town for maybe a couple of weeks? That's hitting A-Team levels.
Otherwise, it was a fun episode, and I liked the chemistry between the team and Vlad, and later between Eliot and Marko, as well as among the team itself.
I thought Sophie doesn't watch hockey? Hm, she stole the Stanley Cup...Oy. We already know that Eliot watches hocky...alone in his room...at night...to get new ideas for how to fight on the ice.
Hey, was that a take on that Stride gum commercial?
What are you doing to all these sweet WB TV dads? First Smallville, then Everwood. What's next? Seventh Heaven? You're ruining my childhood memories, man! Westley, too! *sniffles*
Rogers and Downey!!!!!
Rule #7!!!
Real gentleman, that Vlad. He let Sophie get his bag. And he likes Nate...I don't get Vlad. I think I like him, but I don't get him.
"Maybe you have small brain." (Or maybe I do?) Anyway, I like Nadia Olyenkov, too.
I thought Sophie doesn't watch hockey? Hm, she stole the Stanley Cup...Oy. We already know that Eliot watches hocky...alone in his room...at night...to get new ideas for how to fight on the ice.
Hey, was that a take on that Stride gum commercial?
What are you doing to all these sweet WB TV dads? First Smallville, then Everwood. What's next? Seventh Heaven? You're ruining my childhood memories, man! Westley, too! *sniffles*
Rogers and Downey!!!!!
Rule #7!!!
Real gentleman, that Vlad. He let Sophie get his bag. And he likes Nate...I don't get Vlad. I think I like him, but I don't get him.
"Maybe you have small brain." (Or maybe I do?) Anyway, I like Nadia Olyenkov, too.
Glad there was a turtle in this episode. It gives me an excuse to post this request. If there's a season 6, could we please see the team save a no-kill animal shelter from some baddie? So much potential for comedy with Sophie, Hardison and Parker and animals. And of course there's the Eliot holding a cute puppy thing that just melts the hearts of all female fans. I know you said animals are expensive on a show. But it would be worth it.
And by the way, the idea of a vicious, hand-amputating turtle is hilarious.
To answer one previous question - "maya roza" means "my rose" in Russian, and it's a very popular Russian endearment (which also ties in to the English Rose, as pretty British girls are often referred to).
Oh, and a real Russian would never, ever, EVER let a woman carry his bag. Not EVER. Not if she begged to. East Europeans are very old-fashioned in terms of manners and chivalry.
Hey I really liked this particular episode since it was a lot of fun to watch Elliot have to play bodyguard (of a sort) and it was a nice callback to both season 2 (Hardison helping Nate cheat at sports and Elliot when he had to get involved in another sports team) and season 3 (when Elliot explicitly mentions that he watches taped hockey fights since you never know when you'll have to get into a fight on ice) but I have a few questions about the last five min or so.
Was it really necessary to do the last scene between Nate and the mark the way you did? We all know that Nate is a vindictive son of a bitch, but usually his vindictiveness shows up in more dramatic ways than "Okay here's the final stage of the plan, we're gonna corner the guy we don't like with a bunch of hockey players and force him to give us what we want or else we'll beat the shit out of him?" Isn't that a little too cut and dried for our team?
So...what are the chances that there will be #7 Oregon Otters sweaters available to be purchased?!?!?!
Loved the episode. Kane looked pretty good on the ice!! I love that Sophie claims to have stolen The Cup. Treat Williams was a great bad guy & Nate punching him at the end was nice. I liked Vlad as well. I wouldn't mind seeing him guest again.
Okay.. an actual ledger. If you guys had painted that portable bank vault thing orange I would have fallen right off the couch! When I pickd up the first episode from i-tunes I noticed it was shorther than last season's episodes. Is that why you eliminated the opening? If so, it was a great way to keep from sacrificing another minute of story.
Did you ever - in the darkest parts of your minds - consider having the players beat the crap out of Treat Williams? And if so, why did you go in the other direction?
Excellent job, as usual, and my love to Christian for looking totally badass on the ice. Just a few questions: 1. What happened to the opening? I didn't really miss it, just wondering. 2. I don't understand the bit at the end aboout the money. Did Marko's bonus come from the stuff they stole out of the box? Please clarify. 3. Was the Vlad guy a real pro hockey player? He was interesting. (I liked him, but the whole time I was screaming move the hell over, buddy, and STOP KISSING SOPHIE) 4. Followup to #3: is Nate jealous of Sophie kissing Vlad? 4. Can we see Nadia Olyenkov again? PLEASE? She is now my favorite Sophie alias.
watched again and have a few more questions/comments
1) Glad there wasn't too much of the announcers on camera because the voice didn't match the picture.
2) How did Nate know the numbers Sophie found were dates?
3) In the dressing room after Game 6, why was the son so upset w/Eliot? Was he really upset or was he faking his own involvement?
4) I really expected to hear Eliot give the speech to Marko that if he really cared about his kid he wouldn't risk his health... What was the reason to hold that back?
5) Is Parker living with Hardison at the BrewPub?
6) Did Kane actually take that hit over the boards on to the bench himself?
7) What was the reason for the camera shot of Rising shredding the tickets?
Comments - Loved that Nate's character was named Hanson! (needs to watch Slap Shot again!) Also loved all the staff/crew names for the other players.
I watched the production blog today as well. Ohhhhh why didn't you think about the Documentary of CK learning to skate back then! It would have been great.
@Jamesfirecat there are dean's rules: we must like the victim, the villain must suffer and the gloat. The owner was willing to have a man killed to avoid paying the incentive bonus set up to bring in fans.That's some serious bastardy,(not evil food corp CEO level) on a personal level. Those enforcers were really pissed because they are good people that got used to hurt a guy they respect to fatten a guys wallet. They took it a little personally. @ Anonymous- Standards and practices wouldn't allow it to be actually displayed, plus the owner has enough survival instinct to sign the deal and walk away on both legs from some highly motivated enforcers. You'd get the enforcers moving in with sticks raised and you's hear a scream and fade to black, and a new scene with marko taking over after the team went into receivership. Not that I didn't want to see that myself....
Ahh, the idea that those enforcers that Nate had with him were the exact same people (minus Elliot) who the villain had hired to start fights an appropriately karmic twist to the entire situation (as he is being destroyed by those he set out to manipulate much like the... I want to say Glowfish, whatever, was back in season 4 that I had not considered before and feels much more appropriate than Nate just rounding up some Hockey Themed backup with which to shake down the mark.
Now THAT's kickin' it old school! Totally satisfying episode! Pretty much loved every bit of it, especially Treat's "You come here to gloat?" leading question at the end. Somebody already picked up on Veach and Downey; I must have missed Rogers. I did NOT miss the "saga sell" (a.k.a "the opening") at all.
Got the Leverage Season 4 DVDs; THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU for the subtitles!!! However, was there some sort of mastering error on the extras, or is each episode's "Extras" link SUPPOSED to lead to the same extras? Was hoping for more deleted scenes than one or two per disc. Still, with all the commentaries, the set is a GREAT deal!
Perhaps I need to re-watch this episode, but the con part seemed fuzzy to me. I have two questions: 1) Did Timothy Hutton do all of his own skating? 2) Hardison was under the metal floor panel at the loading dock to secure the money box with the super powered magnets. And then he saws through the floor panel and the money box so that the cash receipt bags fall into his hands. So after that, what is securing the money box to that metal floor panel, and does the does the bank representative see a hole at the bottom of the money box that goes through to the level below?
I am only slightly disappointed that Hardison never read Harry Harrison's 'Make Room! Make Room!' (The book upon which the movie 'Soylent Green' was based.) I am more disappointed, however, to assume that Hardison likewise never read Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat series.
On the other hand, now I know what to get Alec for Christmas!
Hi I'm really enjoying season 5 thus far, this ep was a lot of fun especialy all the Nate/Sohpie/Vlad scenes.
The turtle bit reminded me of a friend who bought her Gran some tiny turtles as a gift, but Gran didn't realise that they needed dry land, thought they were amphibious, you can see were this little anecdote is going :( poor litter feckers swam for as long as they could.
A quick answer to Anon post @ 4.18 they are all wearing ice grips over their shoes, like a rubber sock with spikes that pulls over your toe and heal.
And I deffinately got the vibe that Nate was squaring up to Vlad and staking his claim in their very 1st scene together. Also loved Sophie's reactions during that scene, I think she's seeing another side of Nate. Am I right on my take on Nate's actions here John?
BTW will we get a job where Sophie gets territorial over Nate's interaction with a female mark?
Last query is, did they auction off Vlads signed merchendise for Marko's cheque in orfer to keep the cash for running the team?
You got the Nate scene with Vlad. Actually throughout entire episode, Nate sees Vlad as a dolt. "thanks, Vlad" . Nate and Sophie are a legit couple, so Nate knows he doesn't have to worry.
Still trying to figure out turtle in grift. Unless it is to make Sophie's character seem a bit off.
- Why is it necessary for the con to include a turtle? That seems weirdly specific and other than adding to Nadja's weirdness it didn't really seem to add anything (in-text I mean, it was a lot of fun for us!)
- Does the Stanley Cup thing mean Sophie still has hangars all over the world filled with valuables for a rainy day?
- Surely Hardison knows how to pick a lock by now, was he just being lazy?
- Is Parker/Hardison movie night a regular thing? If so, what movies do they watch? :P
I get the Real World reasons (S&P, audience sensibilities etc.) for not having the players beat up Mr. Williams.
But as you imply - it could have been satisfying for a lot of viewers. I'm looking for a storytelling perspective. Why do you make that choice? Do we (we = the writers)subscribe to the Hitchcock theory of the unopened door or do we (again: we = the writers) go for instant gratification?
Were any other Portlanders expecting the "Blue Line" job to be about MAX? I was rather surprised when it ended up being about hockey... Yeah, especially since John had tweeted a picture inside a tunnel that looked like the MAX tunnel through the mountain to Hillsboro.
Is Parker being comfortable enough to sleep in the same vicinity as someone else while letting her guard down a big deal for the emotional growth of her character?
@Anonymous to paraphrase JR interpret it which ever way you enjoy it best. glad i could help and yes it was beautiful. A little lemony righteous fury for being used.
i just have one random little question... the synch app (though AWESOME!) said that Eliot was in the army. previous episodes (namely the San Lorenzo Job, the Experimental Job and the Last Dam Job) have also said this, along with the fact that he was a Commander. being a military brat my entire life, i know that the only commander rankings (aside from Commander-in-Chief, and i think we would have noticed that) are for the Army, Command Sargent Major and for the Navy, Fleet/Command Master Chief. no other branch has the Commander rank. so, was Eliot's ranking his San Lorenzo equivalent cause he was on loan to them, or was he a Sargent Major, or was that just a term used to address him in San Lorenzo cause he was in charge, or what? i am very confused...
Were the enforcers on the ice at the end literally the enforcers from around the league? Or members of the Portland team (possibly plus the opponents) who were acting as enforcers in that scene but not designated enforcers on the ice?
Who exactly now owns the team? I came away with the feeling that the Oregon Otters are now the Mondragon Cooperative of hockey.
A best-of-seven series to end the season... that means this was the league championship, right? And the Otters are now champions? I would have expected the announcers to say so.
Okay I have to admit that it was very frustrating to see that not a single member of the Leverage team made the connection between the injuries suffered by hockey players and what that means for Eliot. And no one on here said anything about it either! So what I don't get, is that the entire episode is devoted to the cumulative toll all the fighting took on Marcos body. Yet how did not single a SINGLE person question how much more wear and tear a career military man PLUS career hitter would have? Plus no mention of Eliot's past(assumably numerous) concussions? Even though one is mentioned on the show by Nate (in the First David Job.) Don't get me wrong I loved the episode and the plotline, but I kept waiting for some member of intellegent Leverage team to draw the parallel and not a single one did. Was this intentional? Or did they just miss it?
I'm 22. And he is totally... From another generation. But T-hutt looked FINE in this episode. Something about the way he was staring at that turtle. He looked so... Aloof. Am I learning something about myself here? Oy.
Anyway, I thought it was a cool episode. But god damn Eliot is an open book. I feel like every chance he gets he's telling people his life story. About how troubled he is about the things he's had to do. I know Eliot has a lot of fans and, to avoid confrontation, I'll say that I thought Christian was excellent in this episode. Which he was. And there was some real nuanced writing in this episode, particularly with the kid and his dad. That's a really difficult line to walk and I think the co-writers of this ep really nailed it.
I don't know how to say this without sounding like it's really obvious. Or like I'm really high or something. Because I just had this strange epiphany.
Gina Bellman is great! I mean, she's always been good. I hadn't really thought about her too much. I liked all the characters pretty equally. But then something struck me as I was watching some youtube montage of some Leverage moments that I'd been linked to from facebook. I saw all these scenes with Sophie and it was like.. they were all different people. Honestly I know that sounds obvious. But I think there's more to it. It's honestly like, with each moment I was seeing, I was witnessing something I'd seen before. And I'd recognized it. And knew logically it was Sophie. But I realized I'd never actually thought about how all these moments amounted to one person. I don't even associate them together in my head. I think some of it is due to Nadine Haders (I looked it up. She's the comstume person. But then... you know that) because her looks can make her range between being 30 and being 45. Sometimes she even looks a bit younger, it's weird. But it's not just about age.
Sometimes she's this teenage girl. We all know this about Sophie. She's a princess. But there's something Gina does when she's being a princess. And it's not anything particularly subtle. She bounces around and talks in an excited voice ("I love a good death scene" "can we stop off in Paris?") but I literally don't even think of it as being the same person as the woman who convinced the Attorney General that she was sleeping with the mine owner (which had its nice subtleties). Sophie is a woman who has the power to drive a guy nuts and take everything he owns. But you just wouldn't think that from the way she is sort of powerless with Nate. Again, I guess that's obvious. But there's something about watching all these moments, without hearing what she's saying, and watching her body language and her expressions change. She is so dangerous sometimes. And you really feel that. And then, on the other hand.. shes just milk and honey. Gina Bellman is just great.
With any other show I think there'd be an instinct to say her character is inconsistent or something but, by Sophie's very nature, she's so many different people. And her whole identity crisis in season 2 makes so much more sense than just chalking it up to Bellman's maternity leave (like I did at first). Man. I don't know why I got so excited about this. It all seems so silly and obvious now. I looked at your twitter for a place to post and found this blog. I don't really know if it means anything to anyone, I'm sure you know how great she is and I'm sure she knows what she's doing. But I just thought it was really cool.
Anyway, I just want to say that, despite my being a super realist who has a hard time watching shows like this... this show makes me really happy. I don't know how else to phrase it. It just makes me extremely happy. I love Breaking Bad. The X-files. The Newsroom is great so far. Those shows are all great, of course. But nothing makes me as happy as Leverage for some reason. It's not because it's light-hearted (honestly, sometimes I wish you guys could get away with darker stuff). I honestly can't tell you why. But I love it. And as long as the show is around, you'll have me in your corner. Liking Leverage on facebook. And... doing whatever else it is that fans do in the 21st century. One day I hope to have a job on a show like this. Until then, thanks for everything.
@Callie Anne: When Elliot was in San Lorenzo, he was a Mercenary/Assassin. So the Comannder rank was from what ever he was serving as there.
I don't believe there is such thing as a "rare earth electromagnet" In fact, I believe that such a thing would be impossible by the laws of physics. Unless, it was a RareUrth Brand Electromaget...the most electroey magnets you can buy!
This episode felt very disjointed. I mean, it was a good thing the team stumbled on Treat Williams being a bad guy, since they started the whole thing because some guy was willing to play hurt to get a pay out.
Was the scene Eliot's 'You don't have to do this' speach to Marko a deliberate callback to Sophie's attempt to prevent him from taking a dive in The Tap-out Job? Eliot has come so far since then and I felt that scene highlighted his evolution.
You said in earlier posts that Eliot is the one who evolves first and the sense that I'm getting from this season is that he is ready to move on to a new (leverage-free) life. Is he starting to realize that if you live like Jimmy Ford, then you'll die like Jimmy Ford (to paraphrase a line from last season)? Is he is beginning to realize that he can live a different life?
Thank you for this show and this blog. I sense that you are leading us slowly to the end and that makes me very sad.
Another solid episode. Who doesn't love hockey? And Eliot? And Treat Williams?
BTW, thank you for not having Vlad and Nate get into a pissing contest over Sophie. I love Nate and Sophie together, but I liked Vlad and that would have ruined it. Oh, and that Russian persona of Sophie's? Dang. That's quite a look and it totally worked on her.
great episode :) I'm a big Chicago Blackhawks fan, so I kept hoping we would see Kane in a Kane jersey or at least wearing 88...per Patrick Kane's tweet, Christian told Patrick that he "wears [Kaner's jersey] all the time"
the fact that you say the finale is going to make us cry is giving me some serious anxiety. I'm pre med, ok? I don't have a life. I live vicariously through fictional people. Are you telling me that the ending is sad? You're killing Sophie aren't you? Breaking up one of the couples? So messed up, man. You better hope you don't end up as one of my patients, Rogers!
@Izzie...Yea I totally understand not wanting to show a weaker Eliot as that would look totally out of character. They did a great job in this episode showing a softer side while still being completely Eliot. I was just confused about how it could be completely ignored and not mentioned *at all.*
I loved the turtle. And Vlad. And the whole Stanley Cup running joke. In fact, maybe the team could just keep the turtle and Vlad as their sort of team mascots? The turtle would make a nice addition to HQ and Vlad could bring the donuts. :D
While we're on the topic of HQ, I am sad to say that I really don't like the new HQ. It's dark and cavernous and unfriendly . . . to me, all the scenes there have a certain grimness or seriousness to them.
In Season 1, the HQ was clean and efficient and didn't get in the way. Season 2, it was Nate's living room and really punched up the family vibe, and even in Seasons 3 and 4, that set retained a lot of energy, because folks could be standing in the kitchen or moving around and it it was just more dynamic. This one ... at least for me, not so much.
Whispery super serious Eliot speeches are becoming a . . . thing.
So was Hardison guiding Nate's pucks in or just guiding the last one of Risinger out?
This ep made me think of all the stuff going on with former football and hockey players committing suicide and/or suffering dementia, but it seemed like the episode was couched as, "just get the guy off hockey and all will be well," despite the fact that he's apparently already suffering what sounds like permanent effects. And I know the Leverage team are not supposed to be gods who can change a guy's medical problems, just curious as to what the thought process was.
Was there a discussion on how far to go with that issue? Was there a conscious choice made by the writers not to address the fact that Marko very likely will still die or face serious consequences from his repetitive brain trauma?
I think I might have liked to see that issue addressed directly. It would have made it more poignant (okay and maybe a little tragic) to confront the fact that the decisions Marko had made in hockey could never be fully undone and to know that the team did what they could but that sometimes, there are limitations to their powers.
But then maybe that approach is a little less fun train, I admit. (It's true, sometimes, I want DARK ANYBODY COULD DIE AT ANY TIME LEVERAGE. I'm trying to work through it.)
Is the t-shirt parker wearing when she's on the stairs hardison shirt? I swear i've seen that arcade shirt before. If so what episode did he wear it and where can i buy it.
Also, love the turtle stare off and hardison's reaction when asked about the watch. If that wasn't a hand in the cookie jar reaction i don't know what is. Please keep up the humor it's what makes the show awesome....the cons don't hurt either
I gotta be honest, I don't know much about Hockey, so much of this episode zoomed right past me. I still enjoyed it, though.
One thing I liked is that Marko's fight strategy is the same strategy Eliot himself used on Quinn back in the First David Job. Quinn was faster, had a longer reach, and was just as skilled in the ways and means of dishing out damage. Eliot, however, had a superior capacity to take damage and still remain effective.
In the final Rocky movie they had Rocky saying something along the lines that fighting isn't about your ability to throw a punch, it's your ability to take one and still keep fighting. In the end, the guy who wins the fight is the guy who can best take a hit.
@Ryan Elizabeth: not a single member of the Leverage team made the connection between the injuries suffered by hockey players and what that means for Eliot
Eliot isn't showing signs of brain damage, and we can believe that he gets excellent medical care (not to mention private nurses). He has said at least a couple of times (like in the Tap Out Job) that he can take the hits, so the issue hasn't been ignored. But it seems that Eliot is more resilient. Also, he presumably doesn't "play injured" the way Marko did -- he has more time to heal.
I'm curious to know when/where CK learned to skate. I ask because I grew up in Norman about four years ahead of CK and we had two ice rinks in the entire state! It surprised me to see an Oklahoma boy on skates. ;-) But he looked really good on the blades; I'm impressed.
Kudos to the entire episode, and echoing the thank you for subtitles on S4 dvds! I'm hard of hearing and miss about a third of the dialogue on the aired episodes so it's nice to finally know what's being said.
Great episode! Loved watching Eliot on ice, and the Parker/Hardison moments were so d'awww...
Question: Is Hardison secretly running the cons this season? It's just, they seem a lot like his cons; lots of moving parts, very complicated end-games, overwhelming the mark, etc.
I know a lot about hockey, but I let most of the errors go -- but the one that couldn't get over was that there was an assumption that the series would go to 7 games. Was there a discussion about this? I mean, it could have been easily written in -- the added element of suspense of whether or not the bounty would be fulfilled within before the series was over -- or if they started the con in game 3 or 4 -- I just got caught on that if they had won in 4 games, then the manager would have had to pay the bonus. Leaving it to the last minute was risky.
(and did you have to use an acronym of the league that the Portland Winterhawks are already a part of? Not a big deal, but saying WHL confused me. And probably, only me. :) )
Also: how was the approach different to a hockey episode than the baseball episode, in that most Americans really don't know much about hockey, but know a lot about baseball?
Like hhgt said, I get the feeling Nate and Hardison are preparing the latter for taking over the team as mastermind. Maybe Nate is "retiring" at the end of the season? Or maybe they're going franchise and he'll start up another crew somewhere else. This could be a good way to end a season, although it wouldn't work if you expect the show to continue.
1a. I assume Sophie and Vlad stole the Stanley Cup together, but my question is why? Nate's questioning implies that Sophie didn't sell it and they replaced it with a copy so no one knows they stole it. b. Did this heist happen pre-Leverage or on one of their breaks? c. Was Sophie just messing with Nate about not remembering? At the end when Nate asks again about the trophy and Sophie says she doesn't remember Parker is cracking up which makes me think Sophie is just yanking his chain. If so, I approve.
2. It seemed to me that Vlad's relationship with Sophie was affectionate, but not romantic (therefore not a rival for Nate) and that part of his reason for coming was to "evaluate" Nate and make sure he was treating Sophie well. a. Am I wrong? b. Will Vlad return? I liked his interactions with Nate and Sophie.
3. The turtle was amazing! Did they keep him? He would be an excellent office pet! Plus, Nate could have more staring contests whenever he needed to take his mind off things.
Also, a non-episode related question. 4. In the pilot when we meet Sophie she says she is an honest citizen now. a. Was she just on a break between cons or did something happen to make her "go straight"? b. If its the latter will we ever find out?
I just remembered you made what I thought was a crack about them stealing a chalice this year.
And yet, you totally delivered. (What? Lord Stanley's Mug is totally magic and desired the world... err throughout Canada, Russia and North-Eastern Europe.)
And given that it's been found buried in people's basements, left by the side of the road, set on fire, abandoned on the Rideau, been offloaded as over-weight baggage and left in the luggage area of an airport, gone hitchhiking... well, you don't exactly need to be Parker to physically steal it, so thanks for making it Sophie.
*bows down to your majesty and brilliance*
P.S. Technically the Presentation Cup isn't the real one, either, so which did Sophie steal?
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Kutil kelamin adalah penyakit yang sangat umum, dan bisa mempengaruhi lebih dari 5 juta pria, wanita dan anak-anak, seperti setiap tahun yang terjadi di Amerika Serikat. Penyakit ini memang jarang terjadi pada wanita yang sedang hamil, karena banyak penderita wanita yang mengalami penyakit ini setelah melahirkan. Tapi yang sangat disayangkan jika penyakit ini terjadi pada saat wanita sedang hamil tapi dia tidak pernah menyadari hal itu, dengan begitu maka akan ada kemungkinan penyakit akan terus berkembang menjadi lebih parah, satu-satunya jalan terbaik adalah dengan melakukan check up secara rutin, dan mencari penyebab kutil kelamin tersebut. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249 Yang menjadi penyebab penyakit ini adalah Virus papiloma manusia (HPV) yang bisa menyerang siapa saja tanpa pandang bulu, termasuk wanita hamil. Dan obat kutil kelamin mungkin sulit untuk di temukan di apotik di daerah anda. Dan sesungguhnya wanita hamil memiliki resiko yang lebih besar jika terkena penyakit ini karena dapat mempengaruhi pertumbuhan janin yang sedang dikandungnya. Segera cari tahu apa ciri kutil kelamin tersebut. Tapi jangan khawatir karena di jaman sekarang ini, pengobatan kutil kelamin sudah dikenal secara meluas, intinya anda harus segera menghubungi dokter terdekat jika sudah terkena penyakit ini.
Jika penyakit kutil kelamin yang sedang anda derita sudah termasuk sangat parah, maka tindakan selanjutnya yang harus dilakukan adalah mencari obat kutil kelamin. Ada beberapa cara yang dapat dilakukan, diantaranya adalah dengan metode konvensional menggunakan krim oles atau salep kutil kelamin, atau dapat juga penderita beralih ke obat resep dokter ketika mereka menemukan bahwa hasil metode konvensional ini kurang efektif. Khusus untuk pengobatan medis, biasanya metode ekstrem yang digunakan jika penyakit yang dialami penderita sudah semakin parah. Diantara beberapa metode pengobatan ekstrem tersebut adalah menggunakan CO2 atau operasi laser, di mana dokter akan menggunakan laser untuk membakar penyebab kutil kelamin. Metode pengobatan ini juga bisa sangat mahal, memakan waktu, dan menyakitkan atau cukup menakutkan. Metode pengobatan lainya yang adalah cryotherapy. Metode pengobatan ini melibatkan nitrogen cair untuk kutil yang akan membekukan kutil dari kulit. Lalu ada metode pengobatan Loop Electrosurgical Prosedur eksisi (LEEP), yang memanfaatkan alat berbilah berupa pisau yang berbentuk lingkaran. Alat ini dilewatkan sekitar dan di bawah setiap kutil untuk diangkat dari kulit. Tidak berbeda dengan metode pengobatan laser, metode pengobatan ini juga tergolong mahal. Selain itu belum ada jaminan bahwa obat mahal medis ini memang dapat menyembuhkan kutil kelamin secara tuntas, perlu kita ketahui bahwa kutil kelamin adalah penyakit yang sukar disembuhkan karena virus HPV yang menjadi penyebabnya sukar juga dihilangkan. Banyak pengobatan yang ada di jaman sekarang hanya dapat menghilangkan kutil, tapi tidak dengan virus penyebabnya.
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There will be more later, I'm sure, but right now only one question. Were the hockey players all from Portland?
ReplyDeleteWhatever the manly version of giggling and squealing is, I bet there was a lot of it on the set this episode.
ReplyDeleteSo was that really Rogers and Downey with the face off?
Got a good chuckle. Who's brilliant idea was it to have a staring contest with a turtle?
ReplyDeleteKane does everything better. Love the singing,acting,& I keep telling him to wear the muscle shirts,etc. so we can see more of that body he hides way too much.
ReplyDeleteRandom question that I may have missed....but did Nate ever figure out what happened to his watch?
ReplyDeleteso.. where DID Sophie put Lord Stanley's Cup???? :)
ReplyDeleteLoved the meta-ness of the enforcer speech on the ice at the end.
ReplyDeleteGreat job as always to everyone involved.
How long did the total filming take? How many bruised butts happened during filming?
ReplyDeleteOk, since we had "Jack the Bear", did you have a cameo by Danny DeVito, to go with it?
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Why did Hardison blow torch the cash box aka what was the purpose for stealing that money? Was that where they got the $500,000 that went to Marko? (It just didn't really look like $500k in those pouches.)
ReplyDeleteI have always wondered the back story that attributed to Eliot's fondness for kids (wow that sounds bad). Any chance that info will pop up this season?
OMG was that a Hansen brother in the penalty box?!
ReplyDeleteDid Vlad call Sophie "Rosa" before he left? Could that be her real name? Lovely establishing shots of Portland. I especially liked the St. Johns Bridge.
ReplyDeleteJeff Hanson. Snerk.
ReplyDeleteUndercover Blues reference?
ReplyDeleteWhy drop the show opening? Not complaining, just curious?
ReplyDeleteDid the idea for this episode have anything to do with the bounties scandal with the New Orleans Saints?
ReplyDeleteLoved the ep! Treat Williams always does a fine turn as a bad guy, and it was fun to see Eliot finally get the "fight on ice" he's been preparing for since S3. ;) Also, with the increasing attention to the issue of athletes and repeated concussions and revelations about the New Orleans Saints paying bounties for hits, the story was (sadly) relevant.
ReplyDeleteI also loved the bit at the beginning where Sophie displays some knowledge of hockey … and Nate immediately knows it means she stole something hockey-related. And, of ourse, Nate getting into a staring contest with a turtle, because he totally would. Also, Eliot's "bad choices" talk with Marco was a very lovely moment.
I also loved Vlad. It's always nice to see people from the team members' pasts, and I could totally believe that he and Sophie had worked together before, and that they cared about each other. He's a very nice addition to the Leverage 'verse.
At this point (having only seen the ep twice, lol) I just have one question, re: Parker's "did I fall asleep again?" and Hardison's "Soylent Green is people!" (which, btw, was priceless). Does Hardison live at the new headquarters?
Anyway, welcome back! I knew I'd missed y'all, but I really had no idea just how much until last week and this ep. I'm so glad to see Our Team on my TV screen again!
Whose idea was the turtle? I think I have a new favourite one-shot character :D
ReplyDeleteI was wondering about 'Rosa', too...I thought it was just an endearment of some sort but it doesn't sound Russian. Sophie's name? A con ID? Are we ever going to know it?
C. Marko = Juggernaut? And was Busiek a reference to Portland-area based comics writer Kurt Busiek? And you realize if this had happened last season in Boston, Eliot would've fought a Bruin/Bear.
ReplyDeleteI dunno; I can't buy that a World Hockey League would even consider Portland for a single USA team. It's only got the population to support 1.5 major league teams (the .5 for the soccer team, which is doing quite well with respect to other MLS teams), It's not a major media outlet. It's got the West Coast time zone disadvantage for East and Central viewing, and isn't a hockey hotbed. Such a team would shoot for New York, maybe Chicago, Boston, or Philly.
Ditto the base plot; so Marko gets 500K if he fights in every single game, and so they're trying to take him out by putting bounties on him. But doesn't he get taken out if the team doctor says "This man will die if he gets hit with a feather pillow" and has the MRI/x-rays to prove it?
And sorry, I know the answer to me back when is your canonical goto for when folk complain about how easy it is to find the team and why it just doesn't matter, but really; a 15-17 year old kid finds them when they've been in town for maybe a couple of weeks? That's hitting A-Team levels.
Otherwise, it was a fun episode, and I liked the chemistry between the team and Vlad, and later between Eliot and Marko, as well as among the team itself.
I thought Sophie doesn't watch hockey? Hm, she stole the Stanley Cup...Oy. We already know that Eliot watches hocky...alone in his room...at night...to get new ideas for how to fight on the ice.
ReplyDeleteHey, was that a take on that Stride gum commercial?
What are you doing to all these sweet WB TV dads? First Smallville, then Everwood. What's next? Seventh Heaven? You're ruining my childhood memories, man! Westley, too! *sniffles*
Rogers and Downey!!!!!
Rule #7!!!
Real gentleman, that Vlad. He let Sophie get his bag. And he likes Nate...I don't get Vlad. I think I like him, but I don't get him.
"Maybe you have small brain." (Or maybe I do?) Anyway, I like Nadia Olyenkov, too.
Staring contest with the turtle!
Awesome episode!
I thought Sophie doesn't watch hockey? Hm, she stole the Stanley Cup...Oy. We already know that Eliot watches hocky...alone in his room...at night...to get new ideas for how to fight on the ice.
ReplyDeleteHey, was that a take on that Stride gum commercial?
What are you doing to all these sweet WB TV dads? First Smallville, then Everwood. What's next? Seventh Heaven? You're ruining my childhood memories, man! Westley, too! *sniffles*
Rogers and Downey!!!!!
Rule #7!!!
Real gentleman, that Vlad. He let Sophie get his bag. And he likes Nate...I don't get Vlad. I think I like him, but I don't get him.
"Maybe you have small brain." (Or maybe I do?) Anyway, I like Nadia Olyenkov, too.
Staring contest with the turtle!
Awesome episode!
Whoops, sorry about that double post.
ReplyDeleteGlad there was a turtle in this episode. It gives me an excuse to post this request. If there's a season 6, could we please see the team save a no-kill animal shelter from some baddie? So much potential for comedy with Sophie, Hardison and Parker and animals. And of course there's the Eliot holding a cute puppy thing that just melts the hearts of all female fans. I know you said animals are expensive on a show. But it would be worth it.
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way, the idea of a vicious, hand-amputating turtle is hilarious.
I loved the episode, I already watched it at least 5 times. But I'm just wondering why didn't Nate got jealous with that Vlad guy kissing Sophie??
ReplyDeleteAnd again I love the show and I really, ttruly hope there will be many more seasons!
To answer one previous question - "maya roza" means "my rose" in Russian, and it's a very popular Russian endearment (which also ties in to the English Rose, as pretty British girls are often referred to).
ReplyDeleteLoved the episode!
Oh, and a real Russian would never, ever, EVER let a woman carry his bag. Not EVER. Not if she begged to. East Europeans are very old-fashioned in terms of manners and chivalry.
ReplyDeleteThat was a pure Americanism.
Well I have only watched completely thru one time - and then bits and pieces...
ReplyDeleteJust a couple of things...
Mad props to CK for actually learning hockey -- and doing it well. He looked very comfortable on the ice. Who trained him? and is he still skating.
So - Jacques (Jack) LaBear is from Saskatoon? Seriously? Did they not listen to the man speak?
Was the 'eh' in the penalty box scripted or ad-libbed?
and OMG that is probably my favorite Sophie Grifting Alias EVER! Gina was stunning!
Loved Vlad!
Thanks
Hey I really liked this particular episode since it was a lot of fun to watch Elliot have to play bodyguard (of a sort) and it was a nice callback to both season 2 (Hardison helping Nate cheat at sports and Elliot when he had to get involved in another sports team) and season 3 (when Elliot explicitly mentions that he watches taped hockey fights since you never know when you'll have to get into a fight on ice) but I have a few questions about the last five min or so.
ReplyDeleteWas it really necessary to do the last scene between Nate and the mark the way you did? We all know that Nate is a vindictive son of a bitch, but usually his vindictiveness shows up in more dramatic ways than "Okay here's the final stage of the plan, we're gonna corner the guy we don't like with a bunch of hockey players and force him to give us what we want or else we'll beat the shit out of him?" Isn't that a little too cut and dried for our team?
@SueN. -- Ahem. You mean "WINNING a staring contest with a turtle." ;-)
ReplyDeleteSo...what are the chances that there will be #7 Oregon Otters sweaters available to be purchased?!?!?!
ReplyDeleteLoved the episode. Kane looked pretty good on the ice!! I love that Sophie claims to have stolen The Cup. Treat Williams was a great bad guy & Nate punching him at the end was nice. I liked Vlad as well. I wouldn't mind seeing him guest again.
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!
Love idea about team saving animals but maybe it could be a sanctuary/rescue instead of a shelter? I know one that would be very deserving!
ReplyDeleteOkay.. an actual ledger. If you guys had painted that portable bank vault thing orange I would have fallen right off the couch!
ReplyDeleteWhen I pickd up the first episode from i-tunes I noticed it was shorther than last season's episodes. Is that why you eliminated the opening? If so, it was a great way to keep from sacrificing another minute of story.
@Gina – The winning goes without saying. If Nate's gonna stare at a turtle, then he's by God gonna stare him DOWN. ;)
ReplyDeleteDid you ever - in the darkest parts of your minds - consider having the players beat the crap out of Treat Williams? And if so, why did you go in the other direction?
ReplyDeleteExcellent job, as usual, and my love to Christian for looking totally badass on the ice. Just a few questions:
ReplyDelete1. What happened to the opening? I didn't really miss it, just wondering.
2. I don't understand the bit at the end aboout the money. Did Marko's bonus come from the stuff they stole out of the box? Please clarify.
3. Was the Vlad guy a real pro hockey player? He was interesting. (I liked him, but the whole time I was screaming move the hell over, buddy, and STOP KISSING SOPHIE)
4. Followup to #3: is Nate jealous of Sophie kissing Vlad?
4. Can we see Nadia Olyenkov again? PLEASE? She is now my favorite Sophie alias.
watched again and have a few more questions/comments
ReplyDelete1) Glad there wasn't too much of the announcers on camera because the voice didn't match the picture.
2) How did Nate know the numbers Sophie found were dates?
3) In the dressing room after Game 6, why was the son so upset w/Eliot? Was he really upset or was he faking his own involvement?
4) I really expected to hear Eliot give the speech to Marko that if he really cared about his kid he wouldn't risk his health... What was the reason to hold that back?
5) Is Parker living with Hardison at the BrewPub?
6) Did Kane actually take that hit over the boards on to the bench himself?
7) What was the reason for the camera shot of Rising shredding the tickets?
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Loved that Nate's character was named Hanson! (needs to watch Slap Shot again!) Also loved all the staff/crew names for the other players.
I watched the production blog today as well. Ohhhhh why didn't you think about the Documentary of CK learning to skate back then! It would have been great.
Okay- I think I am done for now.
@Jamesfirecat there are dean's rules: we must like the victim, the villain must suffer and the gloat. The owner was willing to have a man killed to avoid paying the incentive bonus set up to bring in fans.That's some serious bastardy,(not evil food corp CEO level) on a personal level. Those enforcers were really pissed because they are good people that got used to hurt a guy they respect to fatten a guys wallet. They took it a little personally.
ReplyDelete@ Anonymous- Standards and practices wouldn't allow it to be actually displayed, plus the owner has enough survival instinct to sign the deal and walk away on both legs from some highly motivated enforcers. You'd get the enforcers moving in with sticks raised and you's hear a scream and fade to black, and a new scene with marko taking over after the team went into receivership. Not that I didn't want to see that myself....
Oh John, i caught the downey reference and did hear a Veach reference too?
ReplyDelete@Art_Connery
ReplyDeleteAhh, the idea that those enforcers that Nate had with him were the exact same people (minus Elliot) who the villain had hired to start fights an appropriately karmic twist to the entire situation (as he is being destroyed by those he set out to manipulate much like the... I want to say Glowfish, whatever, was back in season 4 that I had not considered before and feels much more appropriate than Nate just rounding up some Hockey Themed backup with which to shake down the mark.
My questions:
ReplyDelete1. Craig Marko is very similar to Cain Marko (Juggernaut of X-Men fame). Coincidence?
2. How do people walk on that ice with street shoes? I fall on my butt every winter when I try.
Now THAT's kickin' it old school! Totally satisfying episode! Pretty much loved every bit of it, especially Treat's "You come here to gloat?" leading question at the end. Somebody already picked up on Veach and Downey; I must have missed Rogers. I did NOT miss the "saga sell" (a.k.a "the opening") at all.
ReplyDeleteGot the Leverage Season 4 DVDs; THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU for the subtitles!!! However, was there some sort of mastering error on the extras, or is each episode's "Extras" link SUPPOSED to lead to the same extras? Was hoping for more deleted scenes than one or two per disc. Still, with all the commentaries, the set is a GREAT deal!
@MacSTL
ReplyDeleteHe had to shred the tickets to get rid of them...since the extra money he laundered supposedly came from the sale of those tickets.
Perhaps I need to re-watch this episode, but the con part seemed fuzzy to me. I have two questions:
ReplyDelete1) Did Timothy Hutton do all of his own skating?
2) Hardison was under the metal floor panel at the loading dock to secure the money box with the super powered magnets. And then he saws through the floor panel and the money box so that the cash receipt bags fall into his hands. So after that, what is securing the money box to that metal floor panel, and does the does the bank representative see a hole at the bottom of the money box that goes through to the level below?
I am only slightly disappointed that Hardison never read Harry Harrison's 'Make Room! Make Room!' (The book upon which the movie 'Soylent Green' was based.) I am more disappointed, however, to assume that Hardison likewise never read Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat series.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, now I know what to get Alec for Christmas!
Were any other Portlanders expecting the "Blue Line" job to be about MAX? I was rather surprised when it ended up being about hockey...
ReplyDeleteHi I'm really enjoying season 5 thus far, this ep was a lot of fun especialy all the Nate/Sohpie/Vlad scenes.
ReplyDeleteThe turtle bit reminded me of a friend who bought her Gran some tiny turtles as a gift, but Gran didn't realise that they needed dry land, thought they were amphibious, you can see were this little anecdote is going :( poor litter feckers swam for as long as they could.
A quick answer to Anon post @ 4.18 they are all wearing ice grips over their shoes, like a rubber sock with spikes that pulls over your toe and heal.
And I deffinately got the vibe that Nate was squaring up to Vlad and staking his claim in their very 1st scene together. Also loved Sophie's reactions during that scene, I think she's seeing another side of Nate. Am I right on my take on Nate's actions here John?
BTW will we get a job where Sophie gets territorial over Nate's interaction with a female mark?
Last query is, did they auction off Vlads signed merchendise for Marko's cheque in orfer to keep the cash for running the team?
You got the Nate scene with Vlad. Actually throughout entire episode, Nate sees Vlad as a dolt. "thanks, Vlad" . Nate and Sophie are a legit couple, so Nate knows he doesn't have to worry.
DeleteStill trying to figure out turtle in grift. Unless it is to make Sophie's character seem a bit off.
Lovely episode as always! Some random questions:
ReplyDelete- Why is it necessary for the con to include a turtle? That seems weirdly specific and other than adding to Nadja's weirdness it didn't really seem to add anything (in-text I mean, it was a lot of fun for us!)
- Does the Stanley Cup thing mean Sophie still has hangars all over the world filled with valuables for a rainy day?
- Surely Hardison knows how to pick a lock by now, was he just being lazy?
- Is Parker/Hardison movie night a regular thing? If so, what movies do they watch? :P
@Art_Connery:
ReplyDeleteI get the Real World reasons (S&P, audience sensibilities etc.) for not having the players beat up Mr. Williams.
But as you imply - it could have been satisfying for a lot of viewers. I'm looking for a storytelling perspective. Why do you make that choice? Do we (we = the writers)subscribe to the Hitchcock theory of the unopened door or do we (again: we = the writers) go for instant gratification?
And I think I just answered my own question...
Move along, people. Nothing to see here :)
@Art_Connery
ReplyDeleteAnd the thought that enforcers from opposing teams would show up to help Marko?
Fucking beautiful, man!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteWere any other Portlanders expecting the "Blue Line" job to be about MAX? I was rather surprised when it ended up being about hockey...
Yeah, especially since John had tweeted a picture inside a tunnel that looked like the MAX tunnel through the mountain to Hillsboro.
The episodes with the MAX are much later in the season. They just filmed those recently.
ReplyDeleteIs Parker being comfortable enough to sleep in the same vicinity as someone else while letting her guard down a big deal for the emotional growth of her character?
ReplyDelete@Anonymous to paraphrase JR interpret it which ever way you enjoy it best. glad i could help and yes it was beautiful. A little lemony righteous fury for being used.
ReplyDeletei just have one random little question... the synch app (though AWESOME!) said that Eliot was in the army. previous episodes (namely the San Lorenzo Job, the Experimental Job and the Last Dam Job) have also said this, along with the fact that he was a Commander. being a military brat my entire life, i know that the only commander rankings (aside from Commander-in-Chief, and i think we would have noticed that) are for the Army, Command Sargent Major and for the Navy, Fleet/Command Master Chief. no other branch has the Commander rank. so, was Eliot's ranking his San Lorenzo equivalent cause he was on loan to them, or was he a Sargent Major, or was that just a term used to address him in San Lorenzo cause he was in charge, or what? i am very confused...
ReplyDeleteWere the enforcers on the ice at the end literally the enforcers from around the league? Or members of the Portland team (possibly plus the opponents) who were acting as enforcers in that scene but not designated enforcers on the ice?
ReplyDeleteWho exactly now owns the team? I came away with the feeling that the Oregon Otters are now the Mondragon Cooperative of hockey.
A best-of-seven series to end the season... that means this was the league championship, right? And the Otters are now champions? I would have expected the announcers to say so.
Okay I have to admit that it was very frustrating to see that not a single member of the Leverage team made the connection between the injuries suffered by hockey players and what that means for Eliot. And no one on here said anything about it either! So what I don't get, is that the entire episode is devoted to the cumulative toll all the fighting took on Marcos body. Yet how did not single a SINGLE person question how much more wear and tear a career military man PLUS career hitter would have? Plus no mention of Eliot's past(assumably numerous) concussions? Even though one is mentioned on the show by Nate (in the First David Job.) Don't get me wrong I loved the episode and the plotline, but I kept waiting for some member of intellegent Leverage team to draw the parallel and not a single one did. Was this intentional? Or did they just miss it?
ReplyDelete@Ryan Elizabeth
ReplyDeleteI noticed that, too, but thought it was probably one of those JR "We will never see woobie Eliot" (paraphrase) things.
But that's what fanfiction is for!
@ MacSTL "In the dressing room after Game 6, why was the son so upset w/Eliot? Was he really upset or was he faking his own involvement?"
I'd be pretty upset if I walked in on one of the guys I hired to SAVE my dad yelling at him.
I'm 22. And he is totally... From another generation. But T-hutt looked FINE in this episode. Something about the way he was staring at that turtle. He looked so... Aloof. Am I learning something about myself here? Oy.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I thought it was a cool episode. But god damn Eliot is an open book. I feel like every chance he gets he's telling people his life story. About how troubled he is about the things he's had to do. I know Eliot has a lot of fans and, to avoid confrontation, I'll say that I thought Christian was excellent in this episode. Which he was. And there was some real nuanced writing in this episode, particularly with the kid and his dad. That's a really difficult line to walk and I think the co-writers of this ep really nailed it.
I don't know how to say this without sounding like it's really obvious. Or like I'm really high or something. Because I just had this strange epiphany.
ReplyDeleteGina Bellman is great! I mean, she's always been good. I hadn't really thought about her too much. I liked all the characters pretty equally. But then something struck me as I was watching some youtube montage of some Leverage moments that I'd been linked to from facebook. I saw all these scenes with Sophie and it was like.. they were all different people. Honestly I know that sounds obvious. But I think there's more to it. It's honestly like, with each moment I was seeing, I was witnessing something I'd seen before. And I'd recognized it. And knew logically it was Sophie. But I realized I'd never actually thought about how all these moments amounted to one person. I don't even associate them together in my head. I think some of it is due to Nadine Haders (I looked it up. She's the comstume person. But then... you know that) because her looks can make her range between being 30 and being 45. Sometimes she even looks a bit younger, it's weird. But it's not just about age.
Sometimes she's this teenage girl. We all know this about Sophie. She's a princess. But there's something Gina does when she's being a princess. And it's not anything particularly subtle. She bounces around and talks in an excited voice ("I love a good death scene" "can we stop off in Paris?") but I literally don't even think of it as being the same person as the woman who convinced the Attorney General that she was sleeping with the mine owner (which had its nice subtleties). Sophie is a woman who has the power to drive a guy nuts and take everything he owns. But you just wouldn't think that from the way she is sort of powerless with Nate. Again, I guess that's obvious. But there's something about watching all these moments, without hearing what she's saying, and watching her body language and her expressions change. She is so dangerous sometimes. And you really feel that. And then, on the other hand.. shes just milk and honey. Gina Bellman is just great.
With any other show I think there'd be an instinct to say her character is inconsistent or something but, by Sophie's very nature, she's so many different people. And her whole identity crisis in season 2 makes so much more sense than just chalking it up to Bellman's maternity leave (like I did at first). Man. I don't know why I got so excited about this. It all seems so silly and obvious now. I looked at your twitter for a place to post and found this blog. I don't really know if it means anything to anyone, I'm sure you know how great she is and I'm sure she knows what she's doing. But I just thought it was really cool.
Anyway, I just want to say that, despite my being a super realist who has a hard time watching shows like this... this show makes me really happy. I don't know how else to phrase it. It just makes me extremely happy. I love Breaking Bad. The X-files. The Newsroom is great so far. Those shows are all great, of course. But nothing makes me as happy as Leverage for some reason. It's not because it's light-hearted (honestly, sometimes I wish you guys could get away with darker stuff). I honestly can't tell you why. But I love it. And as long as the show is around, you'll have me in your corner. Liking Leverage on facebook. And... doing whatever else it is that fans do in the 21st century. One day I hope to have a job on a show like this. Until then, thanks for everything.
And sorry this made no sense.
@Callie Anne: When Elliot was in San Lorenzo, he was a Mercenary/Assassin. So the Comannder rank was from what ever he was serving as there.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe there is such thing as a "rare earth electromagnet" In fact, I believe that such a thing would be impossible by the laws of physics. Unless, it was a RareUrth Brand Electromaget...the most electroey magnets you can buy!
This episode felt very disjointed. I mean, it was a good thing the team stumbled on Treat Williams being a bad guy, since they started the whole thing because some guy was willing to play hurt to get a pay out.
A few random questions:
ReplyDeleteWas the scene Eliot's 'You don't have to do this' speach to Marko a deliberate callback to Sophie's attempt to prevent him from taking a dive in The Tap-out Job? Eliot has come so far since then and I felt that scene highlighted his evolution.
You said in earlier posts that Eliot is the one who evolves first and the sense that I'm getting from this season is that he is ready to move on to a new (leverage-free) life. Is he starting to realize that if you live like Jimmy Ford, then you'll die like Jimmy Ford (to paraphrase a line from last season)? Is he is beginning to realize that he can live a different life?
Thank you for this show and this blog. I sense that you are leading us slowly to the end and that makes me very sad.
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ReplyDeleteAnother solid episode. Who doesn't love hockey? And Eliot? And Treat Williams?
ReplyDeleteBTW, thank you for not having Vlad and Nate get into a pissing contest over Sophie. I love Nate and Sophie together, but I liked Vlad and that would have ruined it. Oh, and that Russian persona of Sophie's? Dang. That's quite a look and it totally worked on her.
great episode :) I'm a big Chicago Blackhawks fan, so I kept hoping we would see Kane in a Kane jersey or at least wearing 88...per Patrick Kane's tweet, Christian told Patrick that he "wears [Kaner's jersey] all the time"
ReplyDeletethe fact that you say the finale is going to make us cry is giving me some serious anxiety. I'm pre med, ok? I don't have a life. I live vicariously through fictional people. Are you telling me that the ending is sad? You're killing Sophie aren't you? Breaking up one of the couples? So messed up, man. You better hope you don't end up as one of my patients, Rogers!
ReplyDelete@Izzie...Yea I totally understand not wanting to show a weaker Eliot as that would look totally out of character. They did a great job in this episode showing a softer side while still being completely Eliot. I was just confused about how it could be completely ignored and not mentioned *at all.*
ReplyDeleteI loved the turtle. And Vlad. And the whole Stanley Cup running joke. In fact, maybe the team could just keep the turtle and Vlad as their sort of team mascots? The turtle would make a nice addition to HQ and Vlad could bring the donuts. :D
ReplyDeleteWhile we're on the topic of HQ, I am sad to say that I really don't like the new HQ. It's dark and cavernous and unfriendly . . . to me, all the scenes there have a certain grimness or seriousness to them.
In Season 1, the HQ was clean and efficient and didn't get in the way. Season 2, it was Nate's living room and really punched up the family vibe, and even in Seasons 3 and 4, that set retained a lot of energy, because folks could be standing in the kitchen or moving around and it it was just more dynamic. This one ... at least for me, not so much.
Whispery super serious Eliot speeches are becoming a . . . thing.
So was Hardison guiding Nate's pucks in or just guiding the last one of Risinger out?
This ep made me think of all the stuff going on with former football and hockey players committing suicide and/or suffering dementia, but it seemed like the episode was couched as, "just get the guy off hockey and all will be well," despite the fact that he's apparently already suffering what sounds like permanent effects. And I know the Leverage team are not supposed to be gods who can change a guy's medical problems, just curious as to what the thought process was.
Was there a discussion on how far to go with that issue? Was there a conscious choice made by the writers not to address the fact that Marko very likely will still die or face serious consequences from his repetitive brain trauma?
I think I might have liked to see that issue addressed directly. It would have made it more poignant (okay and maybe a little tragic) to confront the fact that the decisions Marko had made in hockey could never be fully undone and to know that the team did what they could but that sometimes, there are limitations to their powers.
But then maybe that approach is a little less fun train, I admit. (It's true, sometimes, I want DARK ANYBODY COULD DIE AT ANY TIME LEVERAGE. I'm trying to work through it.)
Is the t-shirt parker wearing when she's on the stairs hardison shirt? I swear i've seen that arcade shirt before. If so what episode did he wear it and where can i buy it.
ReplyDeleteAlso, love the turtle stare off and hardison's reaction when asked about the watch. If that wasn't a hand in the cookie jar reaction i don't know what is. Please keep up the humor it's what makes the show awesome....the cons don't hurt either
I gotta be honest, I don't know much about Hockey, so much of this episode zoomed right past me. I still enjoyed it, though.
ReplyDeleteOne thing I liked is that Marko's fight strategy is the same strategy Eliot himself used on Quinn back in the First David Job. Quinn was faster, had a longer reach, and was just as skilled in the ways and means of dishing out damage. Eliot, however, had a superior capacity to take damage and still remain effective.
In the final Rocky movie they had Rocky saying something along the lines that fighting isn't about your ability to throw a punch, it's your ability to take one and still keep fighting. In the end, the guy who wins the fight is the guy who can best take a hit.
@Ryan Elizabeth: not a single member of the Leverage team made the connection between the injuries suffered by hockey players and what that means for Eliot
ReplyDeleteEliot isn't showing signs of brain damage, and we can believe that he gets excellent medical care (not to mention private nurses). He has said at least a couple of times (like in the Tap Out Job) that he can take the hits, so the issue hasn't been ignored. But it seems that Eliot is more resilient. Also, he presumably doesn't "play injured" the way Marko did -- he has more time to heal.
I'm curious to know when/where CK learned to skate. I ask because I grew up in Norman about four years ahead of CK and we had two ice rinks in the entire state! It surprised me to see an Oklahoma boy on skates. ;-) But he looked really good on the blades; I'm impressed.
ReplyDeleteKudos to the entire episode, and echoing the thank you for subtitles on S4 dvds! I'm hard of hearing and miss about a third of the dialogue on the aired episodes so it's nice to finally know what's being said.
@ James... CK learned to skate between seasons. Not sure when he started - but he went to PDX a month early and worked on the blades...
ReplyDeleteWatching the episode now.
ReplyDeleteAgain, it is nice finally seeing Portland as Portland.
There were advertisements for actual local businesses on the rink walls in "Otter Stadium." Was there an arrangement?
@James- Moore grad wondering the same thing. But I thought it was only 1 rink.
ReplyDeleteGreat episode! Loved watching Eliot on ice, and the Parker/Hardison moments were so d'awww...
ReplyDeleteQuestion: Is Hardison secretly running the cons this season? It's just, they seem a lot like his cons; lots of moving parts, very complicated end-games, overwhelming the mark, etc.
I know a lot about hockey, but I let most of the errors go -- but the one that couldn't get over was that there was an assumption that the series would go to 7 games. Was there a discussion about this? I mean, it could have been easily written in -- the added element of suspense of whether or not the bounty would be fulfilled within before the series was over -- or if they started the con in game 3 or 4 -- I just got caught on that if they had won in 4 games, then the manager would have had to pay the bonus. Leaving it to the last minute was risky.
ReplyDelete(and did you have to use an acronym of the league that the Portland Winterhawks are already a part of? Not a big deal, but saying WHL confused me. And probably, only me. :) )
Also: how was the approach different to a hockey episode than the baseball episode, in that most Americans really don't know much about hockey, but know a lot about baseball?
Like hhgt said, I get the feeling Nate and Hardison are preparing the latter for taking over the team as mastermind. Maybe Nate is "retiring" at the end of the season? Or maybe they're going franchise and he'll start up another crew somewhere else. This could be a good way to end a season, although it wouldn't work if you expect the show to continue.
ReplyDeleteNothing in particular, I would love to see Hardison shirtless more and his funny ad-libs. Very funny,..very very sexy.
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ReplyDelete1a. I assume Sophie and Vlad stole the Stanley Cup together, but my question is why? Nate's questioning implies that Sophie didn't sell it and they replaced it with a copy so no one knows they stole it. b. Did this heist happen pre-Leverage or on one of their breaks? c. Was Sophie just messing with Nate about not remembering? At the end when Nate asks again about the trophy and Sophie says she doesn't remember Parker is cracking up which makes me think Sophie is just yanking his chain. If so, I approve.
ReplyDelete2. It seemed to me that Vlad's relationship with Sophie was affectionate, but not romantic (therefore not a rival for Nate) and that part of his reason for coming was to "evaluate" Nate and make sure he was treating Sophie well. a. Am I wrong? b. Will Vlad return? I liked his interactions with Nate and Sophie.
3. The turtle was amazing! Did they keep him? He would be an excellent office pet! Plus, Nate could have more staring contests whenever he needed to take his mind off things.
Also, a non-episode related question.
4. In the pilot when we meet Sophie she says she is an honest citizen now. a. Was she just on a break between cons or did something happen to make her "go straight"? b. If its the latter will we ever find out?
Thanks for answering. The show is great!
O.M.G.
ReplyDeleteI just remembered you made what I thought was a crack about them stealing a chalice this year.
And yet, you totally delivered. (What? Lord Stanley's Mug is totally magic and desired the world... err throughout Canada, Russia and North-Eastern Europe.)
And given that it's been found buried in people's basements, left by the side of the road, set on fire, abandoned on the Rideau, been offloaded as over-weight baggage and left in the luggage area of an airport, gone hitchhiking... well, you don't exactly need to be Parker to physically steal it, so thanks for making it Sophie.
*bows down to your majesty and brilliance*
P.S. Technically the Presentation Cup isn't the real one, either, so which did Sophie steal?
Ok..so you said we will hear Her name spoken aloud but will we know it is The Name? You know who I mean.
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Dari membaca informasi di atas, seharusnya sudah jelas bahwa sangat mudah seseorang terkena virus ini yang kemudian dapat menyebabkan pertumbuhan kutil pada alat kelamin. Kutil yang tumbuh pada alat kelamin ini juga bukanlah penyakit hina yang membuat anda merasa rendah diri dan malu untuk mengkonsultasikanya, apalagi jika ini masih berupa gejala awal, karena banyak penderita yang mengalami pertumbuhan kutil ini pada beberapa bagian alat kelaminya.
Jadi jika anda bertanya-tanya bagaimana dapat menyembuhkan penyakit ini dari rumah, maka yakinlah saja pengobatan itu ada karena sudah banyak penderita yang menyembuhkan penyakitnya ini dari rumah. Sebenarnya juga ada beberapa alasan kenapa penderita lebih memilih penyembuhan penyakitnya ini dari rumah, yang diantaranya adalah :
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Ada sejumlah besar rasa malu yang terkait dengan semua PMS, salah satunya adalah kutil kelamin ini. Untuk alasan inilah mungkin anda ingin menyingkirkan kutil kelamin secepat mungkin tanpa harus memberitahu siapa pun, dan hal ini adalah wajar dan dapat dimengerti.
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Pekerjaan anda mungkin yang berhubungan dengan kantor atau dokter, sehingga ingin menyimpan penyakit ini dari catatan medis Anda.
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Mengobati penyakit ini dari rumah memang lebih efektif rasanya di jaman sekarang. Anda mungkin harus menunggu beberapa minggu untuk janji dokter dan kemudian harus kembali untuk banyak menindaklanjuti perawatan. Tapi jika anda menyembuhkan penyakit kutil Anda ini di rumah, perawatan dapat dilakukan lebih segera.
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orang yang terinfeksi dan secara lebih khusus lagi dikatakan bahwa penyebab utama penyakit ini adalah virus HPV atau human papillomavirus yang sangat menular Ada banyak jenis HPV yang diduga menjadi penyebab terjadinya penyakit ini dan sekali lagi kami katakana bahwa
pengobatan secara dini adalah hal yang harus anda lakukan jika sedang terkena penyakit ini Khususnya jika penderita penyakit ini adalah wanita maka biasanya daerah pertumbuhan kutil terjadi di bagian vagina vulva atau perineum anus dan leher rahim Gejala yang terlihat
pada penderita bukan hanya dari penampilan kutilnya saja yang seperti kembang kol tapi pertumbuhan kulit yang terjadi di sekitar anus dan daerah vagina ini juga akan dirasakan gatal atau sensasi terbakar oleh penderita gejala paling parah mungkin penderita akan
mengalami perdarahan selama atau setelah hubungan seksual Perlu juga diketahui bahwa virus HPV ini tidak akan menimbulkan masalah kesuburan tetapi jika penderita mengidap penyakit kutil ini selama kehamilan maka akan sangat tidak nyaman dan berisiko Penderita yang sedang hamil juga
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ReplyDeletePenyakit kutil seperti luka yang muncul ini juga disebut dengan nama kondiloma acuminate. Kutil tumbuh dengan ukuran kecil, tampak seperti daging berwarna di daerah genital dan anal. Dan penelitian menunjukkan bahwa 10-40% wanita yang aktif secara seksual terinfeksi HPV, meskipun kehadiran HPV ini pada penderita tidak selalu disertai dengan munculnya kutil kelamin.
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Kutil kelamin menyebar melalui kontak langsung dengan orang yang terinfeksi, seperti melalui vagina, anal, atau oral seks. Sekitar enam puluh persen orang yang melakukan kontak seksual dengan penderita kutil kelamin akan mengalami gejala, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan semenjak
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Virus papiloma masuk melalui lecet atau luka kecil di area kelamin yang terjadi selama aktivitas seksual. Setelah virus ini masuk, biasanya dibutuhkan sekitar tiga bulan untuk gejala pertama muncul, tetapi bisa juga memakan waktu lebih lama hingga bertahun-tahun.
Bukltikan khasiatnya obat herbal kutil kelamin de Nature Indonesia untuk pemesanan hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Kutil kelamin laki-laki tentunya penyakit menular seksual yang sangat umum terjadi di kalangan laki-laki saja, khususnya yang aktif secara seksual atau memiliki pasangan seksual yang lebih dari satu. Hal-hal seperti ini yang bisa menjadi resiko peningkatan kesempatan untuk menderita penyakit ini. Kutil kelamin di sebabkan oleh virus yang dikenal sebagai virus papiloma manusia (HPV). Bahkan, HPV bertanggung jawab untuk semua jenis kutil. Penelitian juga membuktikan bahwa HPV terdiri dari lebih 40 jenis. Beberapa sumber bahkan melaporkan lebih dari itu. Anda juga harus tahu virus dapat ditularkan melalui kontak langsung atau tidak langsung. Jadi Anda mungkin Anda mungkin saja tidak tahu darimana penyakit ini berasal sehingga menghinggapi tubuh anda.
ReplyDeleteJika penyakit ini terjadi pada laki-laki, biasanya kondisi yang terjadi tidak seperti kondisi lainnya, penderita juga akan mengalami perubahan dalam kehidupan seksnya secara drastis. Kondisi ini kemudian menyebabkan penderita dihadapkan dengan banyak keputusan sulit, dan harus semakin berhati-hati jika mendapatkan mitra seksual baru. Artinya, jika Anda memiliki kontak seksual dengan pasangan yang terinfeksi, kemungkinan besar akan mengembangkan penyakit ini, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan. Karena itulah maka hal seperti ini yang harus sudah anda pikirkan dari sekarang, karena bisa saja anda mungkin tidak tahu sedang mengidap penyakit ini. Hal ini yang kemudian menyebabkan penyakit ini menyebar luas.
Untuk menemukan jenis pengobatan kutil kelamin yang benar-benar ampuh, kita tentunya harus melakukan hal yang sama oleh banyak orang pada umumnya. Dimulai dengan mencari ke berbagai toko obat untuk menemukan berbagai jenis obat itu yang bisa dalam bentuk krim, salep, atau beberapa jenis cairan lain yang diterapkan pada kulit penderita yang terkena. Jika pilihan medis yang dipilih, maka penderita akan mendapatkan pengobatan topical medis. Tapi penderita juga terkadang tidak memahami betul tentang penyakit ini, hanya tahu bahwa penyakit ini sudah membuat mereka tidak nyaman dan ingin secepatnya hilang dari kulit mereka. Tapi jika berbagai usaha kita untuk menemukan pengobatan ini ternyata tidak memberikan hasil yang memuaskan maka keputusan selanjutnya yang dipilih sebelum terlambat adalah segera memeriksakan diri ke dokter supaya bisa langsung menerima pengobatan dengan resep yang terkontrol. Biasanya pada saat itulah pasien akhirnya tahu bahwa yang menjadi penyebab penyakitnya ini adalah virus Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) dan nama penyakit ini juga dikenal dengan penyakit kondiloma acuminatum. Virus tersebut masuk ke dalam tubuh penderita melalui hubungan seksual dan obat yang biasanya akan diberikan dokter adalah obat topical kulit.
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Jika Anda mengidap kutil kelamin, tentunya penghapusan kutil kelamin ini adalah apa yang ada di pikiran Anda sepanjang hari. Kutil juga tidak berbahaya bagi kesehatan Anda sehingga pengobatanya adalah pilihan anda sendiri, apakah ingin obat kutil kelamin atau tidak. Bahkan sebagian ahli medis yang melihat penyakit anda ini belum sebegitu parah hanya menyarankan supaya anda membiarkan penyakit ini akan hilang dengan sendirinya. Tapi jika kita perduli dengan kesehatan tentunya akan berpikir untuk segera mengetahui cara mengobati kutil kelamin menghilangkan penyakit ini jika sudah menginfeksi tubuh kita, ciri kutil kelamin yang berbahaya. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249
ReplyDeleteMengalami penyakit kelamin tentunya adalah hal paling memalukan yang dialami seseorang, terutama penyakit herpes dan kutil kelamin. Alasan sederhana sehingga penyakit ini terjadi adalah karena melibatkan alat kelamin tentunya. Sejak zaman kuno, berbicara tentang alat kelamin seseorang sudah dianggap sebagai salah satu mata pelajaran yang paling terlarang untuk dibicarakan. Bahkan di masa sekarang, berbicara tentang genital herpes adalah sangat memalukan. Karena itu juga maka banyak penderita yang terinfeksi, tidak memiliki keberanian untuk memberitahu dokter atau orang lain mengenai penyakitnya ini. Sebagian besar fakta mengenai bagaimana cara untuk mengobati kutil kelamin dan herpes juga belum diketahui hingga sekarang. Dalam situasi ini, akhirnya sangat sulit bagi orang yang terinfeksi untuk mencari obat kutil kelamin yang tepat dalam rangka menyembuhkan kutil kelamin supaya tidak terus menyebar. cara mengobati kutil kelamin, Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249
ReplyDeleteKutil kelamin adalah penyakit yang sangat umum, dan bisa mempengaruhi lebih dari 5 juta pria, wanita dan anak-anak, seperti setiap tahun yang terjadi di Amerika Serikat. Penyakit ini memang jarang terjadi pada wanita yang sedang hamil, karena banyak penderita wanita yang mengalami penyakit ini setelah melahirkan. Tapi yang sangat disayangkan jika penyakit ini terjadi pada saat wanita sedang hamil tapi dia tidak pernah menyadari hal itu, dengan begitu maka akan ada kemungkinan penyakit akan terus berkembang menjadi lebih parah, satu-satunya jalan terbaik adalah dengan melakukan check up secara rutin, dan mencari penyebab kutil kelamin tersebut. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249
ReplyDeleteYang menjadi penyebab penyakit ini adalah Virus papiloma manusia (HPV) yang bisa menyerang siapa saja tanpa pandang bulu, termasuk wanita hamil. Dan obat kutil kelamin mungkin sulit untuk di temukan di apotik di daerah anda. Dan sesungguhnya wanita hamil memiliki resiko yang lebih besar jika terkena penyakit ini karena dapat mempengaruhi pertumbuhan janin yang sedang dikandungnya. Segera cari tahu apa ciri kutil kelamin tersebut. Tapi jangan khawatir karena di jaman sekarang ini, pengobatan kutil kelamin sudah dikenal secara meluas, intinya anda harus segera menghubungi dokter terdekat jika sudah terkena penyakit ini.
Jika penyakit kutil kelamin yang sedang anda derita sudah termasuk sangat parah, maka tindakan selanjutnya yang harus dilakukan adalah mencari obat kutil kelamin. Ada beberapa cara yang dapat dilakukan, diantaranya adalah dengan metode konvensional menggunakan krim oles atau salep kutil kelamin, atau dapat juga penderita beralih ke obat resep dokter ketika mereka menemukan bahwa hasil metode konvensional ini kurang efektif. Khusus untuk pengobatan medis, biasanya metode ekstrem yang digunakan jika penyakit yang dialami penderita sudah semakin parah. Diantara beberapa metode pengobatan ekstrem tersebut adalah menggunakan CO2 atau operasi laser, di mana dokter akan menggunakan laser untuk membakar penyebab kutil kelamin. Metode pengobatan ini juga bisa sangat mahal, memakan waktu, dan menyakitkan atau cukup menakutkan. Metode pengobatan lainya yang adalah cryotherapy. Metode pengobatan ini melibatkan nitrogen cair untuk kutil yang akan membekukan kutil dari kulit. Lalu ada metode pengobatan Loop Electrosurgical Prosedur eksisi (LEEP), yang memanfaatkan alat berbilah berupa pisau yang berbentuk lingkaran. Alat ini dilewatkan sekitar dan di bawah setiap kutil untuk diangkat dari kulit. Tidak berbeda dengan metode pengobatan laser, metode pengobatan ini juga tergolong mahal. Selain itu belum ada jaminan bahwa obat mahal medis ini memang dapat menyembuhkan kutil kelamin secara tuntas, perlu kita ketahui bahwa kutil kelamin adalah penyakit yang sukar disembuhkan karena virus HPV yang menjadi penyebabnya sukar juga dihilangkan. Banyak pengobatan yang ada di jaman sekarang hanya dapat menghilangkan kutil, tapi tidak dengan virus penyebabnya.
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