Wednesday, December 14, 2011

LEVERAGE #411 "The Experimental Job" Post-Game

After 40-something episodes, you have a lot of fragments of shattered ideas and blown outlines kicking around. Before he left for Nikita -- a great spy show, by the way, very underrated -- Albert Kim was pitching a weapons dealer episode set at a think tank. There were a lot of great elements to the pitch, the best being the idea of Hardison going undercover as a genius researcher. Hardison, after all, is a genius and creates a lot of the cutting edge technology the team uses. The idea was to show there was a legitimate path he could have taken, but for a variety of circumstances just never did.

The pitch ultimately didn't work, although some of its story shrapnel wound up embedded in finale of that year.

So when Veach came to us to pitch a college research idea, that very attractive character beat resurfaced. College is an even better showcase for what we wanted to explore with Hardison. He is, after all, is a self-segregating geek. We're now in the Age of the Geek, where people like Felicia Day have successful web series, Wil Wheaton has close to 2 million Twitter followers, where the biggest movies of the summer are comic book movies, a video game can sell 25 million copies ... a world where, for example, successful television showrunners will have lunch and trade favorite sci-fi authors and favorite Doctor Who episodes. We don't belong, but the glorious thing is that in the 21st Century there's so many of us that we can all not belong together.

But there's still a tension there. No matter how successful the geek, there's a core of memory, something isolating (not always in a bad way) that drove you into that world of imagination in the first place. Societal norms are strong. My generation of geeks in particular were the ones who grew up outside the mainstream; even though we now are the mainstream, some primitive lizard brain survival instinct makes us twitch just a bit when we approach that invisible line. At the same time some part of me revels in the fact that I can talk about playing Dungeons & Dragons, some inner voice is whispering "What are you doing? THEY'LL KNOW!"

This episode is a parallel to "The 15 Minutes Job." In the same way we explored how fame's siren call is irresistible, we look at how "being cool" is equally irresistible if you grew up as an outsider.  Of course the timeline is radically compressed -- it originally took place over a series of weeks, during Hardison's vetting and initiation, paralleled by Eliot's incarceration -- but that just wound up being way to goddam costly.

The original pitch had Parker also being affected more by the temptation of blending in. In the long run we realized that she would be immune. She had no frame of reference and so was, in her own way, innoculated against such a specific example of conformity. I don't think Parker wants to be normal. She just wants to be normal enough. We also played around with a lovely beat -- how she sees art -- that may surface later. All the parts of the buffalo, kids.

Eliot's story was originally set up as a nice counterpoint to what we developed as a Hardison episode. But TV shows are organic things; what read in the outline as "cool & interesting" became in the script "holy shit." Eliot's in a unique place this year. He's arrived at a new status, and this year is when we explore how he feels about that. Eliot's arc is always a little ahead of everyone else's, as he made his first major moral decision -- to transform from killer to retrieval specialist -- off-screen and pre-Season One. He's a guidepost this year, representative of someplace the penitent may arrive at. I'd put Eliot's speeches (and Kane's choices in them) against any big classic drama this year.

Marc Roskin shot the hell out of Reed College, and you can hear much more about the set design and set choices on the podcast. The first podcast is unique in that it's actually an excerpt of the DVD commentary. The following one is our more traditional "10 Questions" podcast.

Right, anything else I'd like to say is probably handled in the questions, so off we go ...

@Kim Henry: Hey, when is the gang going to steal a dog show? I would LOVE to see Eliot having to run a poodle :)

Only network shows can afford dogs. And I am not joking. They're $3k a day. Kids are cheaper. Infants are cheaper. 

@KaraCaputo1: The Prisoner's Dilemma. And Zilgram like Milgram?? @Doc: Wait a minute. Did you get the name Zilgram by combining Zimbardo and Milgram?

Precisely. To summarize what Veach has drawn on here --

The Prisoner's Dilemma: Classic game theory
Milgram: Designed the "zap a stranger" Obedience to Authority experiment. And kind of invented Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, btw.
Zimbardo: The Stanford Prison Experiment, where college students were assigned the roles of guards and prisoners in a lab built in the University basement (ahem). The situation descended into sadism and chaos within three days. Zimbardo's done a lot of constructive, positive work in his 50 year career, and this experiment is sometimes used to malign him. His book The Lucifer Effect is quite good, IMHO.

@Nooch said: Loved the ep! The responses Eliot gave when being "interrogated" (wanna know what food was on their breath?), were these "true" Eliot responses drawn from his past experiences or "scripted" for the con? I know what I think...just want to see if I'm right.

Oh, that's Eliot opening the door and letting us see into the room Where You Do Not Go.

@Lizzy said: Will what the interrogator said to Eliot ever come back to haunt him? I feel like all the characters have able have multiple showings of emotional imbalance and I REALLY want to see a vulnerable Eliot.

Eliot's been through his own long journey. That guy was not in any way going to shake him. Eliot's vulnerability is his connection with his new, odd family. You will never see weepy Eliot. You will never see Eliot running in his poncy nightshirt through the woods because his bone claws just came in. Eliot's job is to protect everyone, no matter what. Imagine how that feels. That's vulnerable enough.

@Hugin: 1.) I'm sure it will be revealed, but why didn't the team take down the CIA guy? My guess was that he's too well-protected, but to not even try to find the recordings seems a bit out of character for Nate. 2.) I would also like to say thanks for the policewoman.

1.) A man's got to know his swing. In this case, it was better to use the CIA's leverage against the bad guy than to pick that particular fight. The Leverage crew is a player in CrimeWorld, but they're not willing to go head to head with that bunch. Think Stainless Steel Rat -- move between the empty spaces in the infrastructure. 2.) Thank Veach, and actress Val Lundrum.

@Ally said... That was awesome. Bloody brilliant is all I'm going to say. The split perspective of Hardison and Eliot was really nice--it really added to the entire character dynamic. Again, Nate is astonishingly clever. Questions: 1. Are we going to see ramifications of "I spent x days in hell, while you played computer games and hung out with your preppy buds" in the future? We did see a little in the ep, but will there be more? 2. Just how many people has Eliot killed? 3. a. What agency was Sophie's character from? b. Who was the other lady? I'm sure I was supposed to recognize her. c. How did they get her to go along with their con? 4. What does Hardison's CIA file say? 5. Does the rest of the team have scary CIA files? And if yes, what do they say? 6. Like I said before, Nate is scary how smart he is. Was the prisoner's dilemma mind-trick thingy the plan all along? I assume it is, because that's just how smart these guys are. 7. Is Conrad a new big bad? 

1.) No. Leverage is designed to be primarily stand alone. And Eliot cuts Hardison a fair bit of slack. 2.) You will never know that. 3.a.) She put herself out as an investigative reporter, then switched over to "unnamed agency" to convince b.) New character Detective Grayson to go along with the con, because c.) Detective Grayson very very much wanted that spoiled, rich sociopathic little shit to take the fall for what he'd done. Assume she convinced Detective Grayson during their coffee date. 4.) In RL, it's chuffah text, not meant to be read. In the Leverage-verse it's quite fascinating reading. It includes their attempts at recruiting him years ago, and his qualification for the now disgraced Zero Protocols. Which is a curious conicidence considering Eliot actually has ...never mind. 5.) Not so scary. And that would be telling. 6.) Yep. 7.) Nope.

@MichaelRay: Excellent episode. Only 1 question, what are the 7 different 'whups'(sp)?

We will endeavor to list all of them before the end of the series.

@Allie: Speaking of, I have a question about Parker, I know at times she has trouble feeling empathy, clearly in the case of the psych study and the electric shocks, though she does in fact have it, if only seen on rare occasions (see 1x06). But what would she be classified as? A functioning sociopath, somewhat akin to Sherlock Holmes? Or is not so much sociopathic behavior but rather a symptom of her (according to many dvd commentaries) Aspergers? 

I think Parker's a perfect blend of nature and nurture. Emo Parker could not have become "Parker", and Parker integrated into society at an early age would not be a great thief. A great something else, perhaps, but not a thief.

@Sprite said: What a wonderful episode! A shirtless Hardison is always nice, do we get a shirtless Eliot this season too?d I do like how everyone is very much working as a team and the juxtiposition of Hardison's situation with Eliot's was very well done. I like the set up for the long con, I'm hoping to see the investment guy somehow involved in the take down. Now, were those real CIA files? or planted somehow?

CIA files were real. It was a way of showing that although ordinarily their cover stories would hold up, the Marks' connections made him a real, viable threat.

@workworkwork: 1.) You've mentioned in past postings that Eliot has 'agreements' with some 'men in suits'. Will any of those agreements kick in (or get cancelled) as part of the blowback for this job? 2.) Also, Parker is getting really good at the undercover work!

1.) Nope. They're a different department, and frankly don't mind seeing the CIA take one in the shins. 2.) If you're cool with interchanging "seductive" and "terrifying" at random, then yes, she's awesome. 

@Unknown said: Not a specifically episode related question, but some of the Parker/Hardison moments in this did remind me of the niggling question: What exactly is the state of Hardison and Parker at this time? Are they actually dating?As much as anyone in their situation could be, anyway. Sometimes I think they are, but other things just confuse me.

They're not seeing anybody else, but are kind of feeling around the edges of "dating." As you've seen, Parker's understanding of "dates" is pretty odd. There's a bit of frustration going on here, which you'll see discusse din "The Boys Night Out Job".

@PurpleOps: NICE episode. (Alright, nice is probably the wrong word, as there was a lot of ugliness abounding, but you know what I mean.) Loved the nickname HP for Hardison; quite apropos. (Never mind that it's also Hardison-Parker...) Nice callback to Sophie's wine-tasting experiences. 1.) Was Eliot Hall in honor of our favorite ex-military man? 2.) My two complaints about this episode were both in the scene where Hardison is abducted. Would the villain really leave the CIA file on the floor? And it seemed the only reason for Hardison to have removed his earbud at that particular juncture is to provide Eliot with a sequence (which was admittedly interesting) to turn the tables on his torturer. Both bits seemed a bit too convenient. Other than that, superb writing!

1.) No, coincidence. That's a real building. 2.) The file was dropped during the struggle, which was cut. And Hardison removing his earbud was quite specifically so he could have that conversation with Parker -- we've managed to fuzz the earbud GPS in other episodes, we didn't need to have him take it out just for the plot point. To tell the truth, I find the Parker rescue much more satisfying then the Eliot scene. That may well be because the confessional Eliot scene is such a hard act to follow. But everyone salts to taste, you know?

@Zee-Zee: So, now that my suspicions of Sophie and Eliot have for the most part been confirmed that they were both pretty darn close to being super spys; who is the higher ranking officer? I know different countries have different rank systems (sorta) but I was just wondering, Is Eliot higher up in the ranks or is it Sophie because she knew about the stars and bars trick from Three days of the hunter but Eliot is the go to Military man. Love the show and can't wait for more!

Eliot served his country in an official status. Sophie only ever ran across spies in her grifting career, and may have done some back-scratching favors back in Europe. Assume that's how Sophie and Tara met. Although do remember that Tara was the one who owed Sophie the favor ...

@Nekussa said: 1.) "Here we go." I'm looking forward to finding out where this long term plan of theirs is going! That was a nice beat at the end with Nate and Eliot drinking as peers. 2.) How did they get that lady cop to go along with the scam? Or is that to be revealed later? Does she talk to Bonnano? 3.)Did the homeless veterans' shelter receive a large monetary donation from mysterious sources after all this was over and done with? ;)

1.) That was an improv on Tim's part. Assume it's meant to indicate a night of bonding between the men. 2.) Sure, I like that. She talked to Bonanno. Oh, and hot coffee date. 3.) They got a whole new building.

@Craig: Something I want to know. If Parker and Eliot were on a mission together and had a moment where they had to kiss for the purpose of the mission. Would they actually do it or would it be too weird?

They would absolutely do it. The mission's the mission. They'd have less of a problem than some of the other combos.

@monilyn89 said: I loved the Episode. I really enjoyed Eliot taking the upper hand in the interrogation. I'm wonderign if we will see Eliot displaying side effects of this 'study'. Either through him trying to regain his internal sleep cycles or Nate confronting him about some tidbit of information he learned? Thanks for creating a show with such well developed characters that we truly care what happens to them.

As noted before -- consistency, not continuity. We're a standalone show. And thanks for being such passionate fans. I think about 50% of the emotional guts of the show is manufactured from the heat of your fevered brains.

@meanderling: How much of the psych experiments in this ep were based on real life? I know that they do sleep dep experiments (I saw a poster for one on my campus, actually...now that kind of creeps me out...), but would a psych department really keep a small prison in its basement for that purpose? I understand CIA funding does make a lot of things go away, but that seems to stretch the line a bit. Also, are electric shocks still approved for psych tests?

If you go back and rewatch, listen to the conversation on the bridge, when they dump the body. They specifically mention moving the experiments out to "the farm" the building the fraternity owns off-campus. That said, I am as always genuinely touched by you people's belief in authority. Why there's no way money or influence would cover up unethical experiments run by powerful students at the behest of a national intelligence organization. That's as ludicrous as the idea of covering up a decades long pedophile ring for something as ridiculous as, say, football.

@Susannah: Questions: 1) Did the team expect them to find Eliot’s file and catch on to Hardison’s deception? That’s sort of what I assumed when it happened, but by the end I wasn’t so sure. Shouldn’t Hardison have been able to prevent that if he’d wanted to, or was this a level of CIA file that he simply doesn’t have access to? 2) Why did the team let the big bad CIA guy go? I mean, the kid was rotten, but taking down a 22-year-old college student, even if he’s a well-connected college student, isn’t exactly their greatest triumph. And taking the kid down while letting the guy with the real power who was actually pulling the strings get off seems a bit … well … toothless. Are they setting up the CIA guy to take him down later? I didn’t really understand the implication of Nate’s call with him the end. I’m worrying now that I’ve forgotten important arc stuff from the first half of the season and my confusion is the fault of the hiatus.

1.) Hard copies are a bitch. Our guys are good, not omniscient. That's why Eliot is on the team. 2.) Taking down the kid meant taking down his friends and, probably, the entire chummy recruiting fraternity. That was enough of a punch for the CIA to feel it. But not enough to get them out of their chair, as my grandfather would say.

@Oona: One complaint - I have to say that Parker seemed a bit OOc delivering her you're a geek badass speech to pump Hardison up. Maybe it was her look (which was beautiful but very unParker) or the delivery of all those "thingies" in the speech, but I literally lost the character of Parker there for a bit and it was like I was watching BR play someone else. Don't ever do that again people!

Nope, that's in character. You can tell because it's right there in the script. (with apologies to Steven Bochco) That was Parker's attempt at being supportive.

@JoellaBlue: Welcome back! It's been a longish wait but very much well worth it. As my dad is a VietNam vet, this episode struck closer to home than any of the others. I'm glad the plight of vets past and present was brought into the forefront-thank you ... I wasn't clear on how they were able to get the CIA guy to play along as well as the cop. She was in the 15 Minutes Job where the mark confessed to the hit and run yes? Once again welcome back; I am thankful for Leverage.

The CIA knows when to cut its losses.

@firelizardkimi: Okay, question. After watching all of the DVD commentaries (is it even really watching?), I am aware that all of the episodes are based in fact. How much of this episode is based in fact?

See above. And you can find some very interesting stories about CIA recruiting out of upscale Ivy League fraternities without much effort.

@antisocialbutterflies: One question, I am unsure of the legal precedent but it seems like the lady detective participating in the fake interrogation might provide cause to drop some charges. From a character perspective it seems rational given her earlier sentiments so it isn't a question of her participating but it seems like something a lawyer might bring up in court proceedings. I realize that the CIA bigwig probably made it all go away to cover his tail but I thought I'd ask anyways.

The main point of the con was to get the CIA guy to realize that Zilgram was more trouble than he was worth, and would flip when pressured. Once that protection was lifted, all the suppressed previous evidence would come into play. Not to mention, yes, the CIA coverup. It's really not hard to put people in jail, particularly when their crazy story is base don being arrested by fake homeless cops. 

@Kate said: This was tremendous. I was frustrated when Eliot's prints returned a file that included Hardison as a known associate, because that seemed much too sloppy for our intrepid band. But based on Nate's "here we go," is it safe to assume that the entire file was a plant? (One that probably didn't include other known associates like, say, Sophie and Parker and Tara, whose pictures I don't believe we saw?) Also, at what point in the con did the team shift from an end goal of Mr. Connor withdrawing his protection to an end goal of taking out Mr. Connor altogether? Or am I misreading the play at the end?

Hmm, I think you guys are reading a bit too much into empty space. Our CIA friend may return, but this was just a case of the team running into the outer limits of information cover-up.

@Karina: In the show The Equalizer (which I find Leverage similar too in concept), the title character advertised in the classifieds to spread word of his services. How do people find about The Team?

Ah, new viewer! We've discussed this in the past. Let me go pull that questions AND the answer

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@Tom Galloway: One minor hitch in the fun train; I got the impression that the miner came to the team, not them finding out about the problem and contacting him. So now random folk from small, usually socially isolated, backwoods towns 500 or so miles away known about the Leverage crew and how to contact 'em? These guys are almost as easy to find as the A-Team! : -)

This is funny, because I had lunch with the fabulously talented and amusing Matt Nix the other day, and as we genially gave each other shit about our shows, the clients finding the Leverage team was one of his bugaboos. However, he admired it: "'How did you find the team?' Who gives a shit? We're Leverage! 'Why do you trust these people?' WHO GIVES A SHIT?! WE'RE LEVERAGE!"  At the same time, if I had to write what he had to write every week, I'd put a gun in my mouth. "Michael, my Yoga instructor's second cousin's niece got involved with meth dealers. You have to help her."

We actually did, way back when, write an explanation of how Leverage found the clients. It was in "Homecoming", where Hardison explained how his new tech setup scoured legal aid websites, headlines, etc, for potential clients, then contacted them through proxies. Not sure if it ever made it on the air.

To tell you the truth, Matt's right -- who gives a shit? Our job as pulp writers is to deliver you the most interesting moments from the case of the week. We dug in early that we'd never reveal the client process, for both that reason -- it's boring -- and for a larger philosophical reason. We always wanted the audience members to feel like, at any time, the Leverage team could swoop in and help them. Details in this case would accomplish nothing but disillusionment.

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Back.  One of the things I dig about Person of Interest is how they totally short-circuited that problem by creating "the machine" which spits out "the number." Ordinarily I despise the J.J. Abrams Mystery Box stuff, but having wrestled with that bear for going on five years I can't help but admire the elegance of their solution. As I've said on Twitter, Person of Interest is like Leverage's very serious younger brother, while Revenge is our punky younger sister. Both worth your time. (And Psych is our brother from another mother.)

@SueN.: My question, 1.) did Eliot leave his fingerprints on that taser on purpose? It seemed a bit careless, especially in contrast to his care in not touching the glass. And he did obviously give in and let the guy tase him. If so, then was Zilgram supposed to get the team's files? 2.) And were those files real, or fabricated by Hardison? I really loved the final scene with Nate and Eliot, two professionals, two equals, and two scary men.

1.) Nope. Not omniscient. 2.) Real files.

@Murphy: This episode wasn't the typical "find a mark, do a con, get the bad guy" episode, but I think it was really great. Even though it wasn't quite the typical setup we've gotten used to after three and a half seasons, I really liked the way you portrayed Eliot and Hardison here. There were moments where Eliot seriously sent chills down my spine (good chills, of course) and Hardison managed his geektastic-cool great. Parker's mini pseudo pep-talk had me chortling. She's a doll. Anyway, no questions this time around, but fantastic job on the episode. Kudos to all!

I have to admit, one of the reasons we're breaking format is that we really, really don't want there to be too many "typical" Leverage episodes. A movie a week, even if sometimes the movie is weird. 

@Raksha: I know this probably says something unpleasant about me, but I find Miserable Bastard Nate delightful! When he was practically taunting Zilgram (that was the kid's name, yes?) with his impending prison sentence during the "game" in class, I was clapping my hands with glee. I have a feeling it's going to bite poor ol' Nate in the ass, but I'm going to enjoy his bastardry while it lasts.

I'm partial to bastard Nate. I believe those are Tim's favorite beats, too. Really, you can never do the Chandler quote enough times. Just assume it's stapled to the inside of my eyelids.

@IMForeman I also immediately thought of Dr. P Venkman's Study of Negative Reinforcement on Psychic Ability. So, I have a question - was this a Ghostbusters reference (or nod, I guess), or are you both just doing your take on the Milgram study?

Milgram, but I wish I'd thought of the Ghostbusters reference.

@Calla: I would like to see Eliot in a situation where he does actually get tortured - not because I'm sadistic, but because I don't think we've see Eliot come anywhere near close to his real limits and, without having a flashback episode (which you've said you don't like) having something in the present that would showcase his training, what he's had to endure, what his tricks are for not breaking... I don't know - I think it would be interesting. Interesting like the episode of Firefly where Mal and Wash we taken prisoner and Zoe had to negotiate their release. I just think it would be interesting to see him really pushed to that point.

I'm not familiar with Firefly.

Kidding. That was such an odd little character episode, though, even for that show. I don't think we'll ever have something along those lines. And to tell the truth, I'm just not sure you'll ever beat "There are FOUR LIGHTS!" 

@Anonymous: Could there please be more Nate/Sophie interaction because 5-second-long scenes are nothing, they don't contribute to any character or relationship development. They barely share any scenes at all. If I didn't know any BTS information I'd think you're phasing Sophie and Nate out of the show because it seems like everything has been about Parker, Hardison and Eliot lately, and by 'lately' I mean since you made Sophie leave in the middle of season 2. They don't seem crucial to the show anymore because you give a lot more air time and significant scenes to other characters and dynamics. I don't feel like it's the show I fell in love with anymore. The writing for Sophie and Nate has been very weak lately. What's the deal?

... you know what? This is kind of fascinating. I'll do a separate blog post on it.

@allison: 1.) I really expected Eliot and his army of homeless guys to be going after Hardison. Was it really in the plan for Parker to go in by herself, or did she just take off? Oddly, I was expecting Eliot as long as Hardison was holding his own, but once he was on the floor getting his ass kicked, in that last split second I knew it was going to be Parker. And of course it was awesome. 2.) Also, exactly how nice did Sophie have to be to that cop? :) 3.) Surely by the end the cop didn't believe Sophie was a novelist anymore, did she? Who does she think Sophie is? 

1.) The day Parker can't handle a half-dozen soft frat boys is a sad day indeed. Nate called an audible, and Eliot went into con mode. 2.) As nice as you need her to have been to continue watching the show. 3.) She believes that Sophie works for ... somebody. Frankly, she didn't ask too many questions. Rich guy's neck to punch!

@Faltenin: I really loved the parallel deep dives into two worlds that couldn't be further apart, from the scandalous treatment of so many of those that went to fight for our liberties, to the secret societies of the rich and powerful... And of course the KISS! a great smooch that could only come when Parker is playing a role! Had to suspend belief for a few mns though at the end, where somehow all these sleep-deprived homeless guys happen to find uniforms and participate in a con in the midst of lots over powerful secret service guys, with no prep, but also that a real cop would play along, putting her career on the line for a wild bet on timing (that the kid would state he'll give up the CIA dude just the minute he's watching, etc

The con was being set up from Day One, so consider it more of a payoff than a flier. And again, you people's faith in authority is touching.

@msd said: So Eliot has a limit when it comes to tequila shots? I guess it is the price to pay for making sure a professor is "under the weather". I thought the hangover treatment scene with Eliot and Sophie (giving him aspirin) was great!

Tequila's not a drink, its a drug. The only thing I can't drink, although Kane did an admirable job of schooling me when we were shooting the pilot.

@Nekussa: I know Christian choreographs his own fights, but does he also help with fight scenes he isn't in?

Depends on his availability for shooting. But yes, often.

@Karl: Really liked the episode overall, but the incident with the blankets felt off. It seems like by bringing in the blankets/jackets, the vets were set up for abuse they wouldn't have otherwise gotten for the sake of getting tape of the frat guys rushing and beating them to determine the source. Was additional explanation cut for time?

No, the blankets were rigged hoping to get more evidence. Nate didn't anticipate the bonanza of assholery he got.

@Mai: Would love to see more of Val Landrum aka Lady Cop aka Detective Grayson. Nice touch on the lesbian bit!

You've already seen her in "The Girls Night Out Job." She'll be back.

@Jessa: Did Eliot really eat the raw eggs when he was supposedly hungover? 

Kane ate them, yes.

@Kate: One other loose end for me: the first indication we had of the guys beating up vets was in the video at the end. It felt like that was supposed to be a doctored video based on the way they beat up Hardison - meaning he had a button cam on, recorded it, then spliced it into shots from the prisoner button cam POV. But I can't find any support for that in the episode, other than my gut. Am I imagining things, or did something get cut for time that would have explained that?

Nope, abusive video from the thugs in the basement. Yeah, that could have been clearer in the edit, now that you mention it. Our bad.

@Lina: 1.) What made Parker wave the white flag? 2.) What was Nate looking at? 3.) Weren't the boxers unusually large? I somehow think they are usually smaller. 4.) Why did everyone get a coat except Eliot? 5.) Not episode related, but do you think you'll ever do the #315 & #316 Post games? 

1.) She knew that even though Hardison handled that badly, she didn't exactly cover herself in glory, either. They were both going to apologize. 2.) Don't understand the question, sorry. 3.) They need to be ... large. For standards and practices. Let's leave it at that. 4.) Eliot is warmed by his rage. 5.) Yes, eventually. At some point you'll have an almsot complete record of making a TV show over 5 years. 

@Lydia: 1. Was the exterior of the college Reed College? Did you actually get to shoot inside, or was that a separate location? 2. Was Psychology purposely mispelled? 3. Parker is only shown picking up and looking at the CIA file - whatever happened to Hardison's earbud? 4. Did Parker lift anything (and maybe put it back for fun) while she and Hardison were at the party? Temptation was everywhere... 5. What was the rock music they were blasting during the experiment? Was it Alice in Chains? 6. If Parker hadn't brought the coats yet, what was Eliot huddling under when his teeth were chattering?

1.) Yes and Yes. The basements were built sets, though. 2.) Um, sure?  3.) Knocked aside in the scuffle. 4.) I'll say yes, because it delights me. 5.) I think a Joe LoDuca special. 6.) The coat he wore when he came in.

@Anonymous: Very entertaining liberties with student research. I enjoyed the echoes of Tuskegee, Milgram and the like, but honestly, you stretch the ledger element pretty hard in this one -- ever heard of human subjects review boards and faculty advisors? Doc students wouldn't have the liberties our little villain did, much less an undergraduate. That said, it was a dandy episode and he was a great villain. The Eliot and Hardison elements were a treat (who chose the stripey boxers?) Now, to the question: I assume all the HP stuff was largely product placement, you having sold out to Microsoft fter having maintained loyalty to the far superior Apple the first seasons. But is there also any in-joke associated with Steve Jobs having attended Reed College, where you filmed?

Oh, you kids and your faith in authority.  HP was for "Harry Potter", btw. And no I didn't even know Jobs went to Reed until he passed away.

@Hugin: How did Elliot manage to have enough battery life for a week without a recharge?

He carries spares. No, you got me.

@zeyneb: 1.) Why didn’t Parker bring Eliot a jacket? I was disappointed that we did not get that scene, would have loved Parker being nice to Eliot. 2.)Was there a speech of evil in this episode that I missed? We never got to hear why this guy was doing this – unless he was a psychopath? He was thinking that he was coming up with better methods for getting information out of people right? In that case this brings me to my next question… 3.) Why was the CIA hiding the guy and protecting him? I am sure the CIA has better people with better degrees to figure out how to get information out of people, and more secret locations to torture them? Not that I am for secret societies and stuff but wasn’t there a decent human being among them to rat out what was happening to someone? I mean at first I just thought that it was music and the cold but then we saw the university students beating up the test subjects – not everyone in this world is evil? And if these so called “dust men” do grow up to be high position people in the world secret organizations, isn’t some of them – I don’t know good? Believe in good? Don’t we still believe in 007? Thank you again for a great episode!!

1.) Again, limited time, and Eliot is warmed by his rage. 2.) I am ... genuinely kind of at a loss of how to explain to you why bad people do bad things. Everybody who does bad things thinks they're doing it for good reasons -- well most of them. He's selfish, and privileged, and just doesn't care about people who aren't like him. Why do some insurance companies pull your policy as soon as you need it? Why do execs at food industries put spoiled products on the market? How can a guy who works for a bank that took hundreds of millions in government bailout money walk past a mom who works two jobs to pay her mortgage and shout "Get a job!" in her face? Why would people not just commit fraud to foreclose on mortgages, but also throw a costume party mocking those homeowners? Sometimes people are just shitty. And when they're also powerful, bad stuff happens. 3.) Organizations sometimes don't make good choices. There's a long list of dubious ideas that the CIA, among others, have pursued in the name of national security. And people in those organizations, in ANY organization, tend to obey the norms of their peers.

Don't I believe in 007? I guess not. I believe in Robin Hood. I'm not sure I can reconcile the two. 

@Jessa: Did Eliot kill the guy who was interrogating him? Or was he just very beat up?

Beat up. Eliot doesn't kill any more if he doesn't have to.

@Rider3: I'd like to know who the guy was that they kept reflecting on near the end. He was in the food line, he was with the CIA agent at the police station, and he was also in another spot. I didn't get why that guy was important. Thanks!

It was just our way of showing that Eliot had recruited his fellow homeless inmates into the final con. 

@allyone: 1) Did Nate pick up something for his tool chest listening in on Eliot and the interrogator? 2) Was everyone listening in on Eliot, cause we only saw Nate and then Hardison briefly when he was in Nate's apartment?

1.) No, those are Eliot's tools. Don't borrow them. They'll cut your hands. 2.) No, just those two. 

@Seph: 1) I'm so very curious, when Eliot snarled back that there's seven "whoompa whoompa" that he knows, was he pulling Hardison's leg with a random number, or does he really know seven helicopter/motor blade sounds? 2) When they tried matching Eliot's fingerprint and came back with a file, was that something Hardison planted in the past for cases just like this, or was that really Eliot Spencer's file? If it was a fake file, how could they link him to Hardison? If it was the real deal... Shouldn't they have taken better precautions?

1.) He knows more than 7. Those are just the "whumpa" sub-category. 2.) Mentioned above.

@Miette: Shouldn't The Girls Night Out Job be the 4x11? You stated before in the post game 4x3 post. Any reason why changing? 

Shooting order shifted from script order due to actor availabilities. No big deal.

@David Hunt: No question, but I would say your explanation of Parker and Hardison is pretty well thought out. You're right on this: "....I remember Rogers saying that the answers to questions about the sexuality and activities of the characters was always…whatever answer that makes you watch the show more. I expect that the answer to the question regarding just how “nice” Sophie was to that cop would follow those lines as well."

@Rachael: My questions about that are, 1) Will we be seeing anymore of Eliot’s darkness in upcoming episodes? (vague question, yes, but I’m fishing for a spoiler). 2) Who’s decision was it to not show the rest of the team reacting when Eliot gave his epic answer about all the people he’s killed? It was established that the others could hear him the whole time (unless I missed something), but there were no camera cuts in that scene. (Which I loved, and wouldn’t change for anything, but was there a specific mentality behind it?) 3) Eliot totally killed that guy, right? (And, unless “No” is somehow relevant to future episodes, please say yes). 4.)You’ve established (either in this blog, in the commentaries, or both – I can’t quite remember) that Nate and Eliot knew each other before the crew became a crew. And not just in a ‘Nate used to chase him because it was his job’ kind of way, but that they’ve worked together. Are we ever going to see flashbacks of that nature? Or even just have them talking about it?

1.) Yes, although in a more considered way. 2.) Marc Roskin, and I like that choice. 3.) I've got to dig in and say no. 4.) You might, in S5.

@Ryuu: Can I dare to hope we'll see more of Detective Greyson? It's kind of nice seeing queer characters in my genre shows/outside of specifically queer media.

She's already recurred, and I hope to use her more often.

@julie: Are you going to put the outtakes on the DVD that Beth has been tweeting about ? Not just from this episode but the ones she apologized to Christian about for having to do so many takes. And would it be possible to put some at the end of the episode during the credits ? They're great when they act weird in the show, but it's awesome when they mess up the takes. :) Thank You

We put a chunk on the DVD. Not all, but many. With our credits squeezed we decided not to do the post-credits flubs.

@Devinoch: Has a "theme" been picked for the fifth season yet? Here's your opportunity to say something horrifically cruel and cryptic - which I know you love. :)

"Consequences."

@briddie: I want to know how the writers came up with Eliot's speech. Most of it was pretty much what I would've expected, but "wanna know what food was on their breath?" was just brilliant. Creepy, but brilliant. 

I imagine Veach did what most writers do: stare at the blank page until drops of blood appear on our foreheads.

@Anonymous: I wasn't cheering when Eliot beat up the interrogator. I was feeling grossed out and thinking, well, this is an unusually morally ambiguous Leverage episode... because it looked like we were out to stop the torturers, but then we become the monster we're trying to stop.... Yes, there is a difference of degree between torturing innocent folks and torturing creepy experimental interrogators, but to me, Eliot's violence was his trauma emerging, not a moment of triumph. In a paradoxical sense, for that moment, the bad guys won. Because this is the Leverage team. These people have Sherlock Holmes levels of insight, as proven many times throughout this very episode. So don't tell me that Sophie or Nate couldn't speedily intuit/logic where this bunch of frat boys had taken Hardison. Don't tell me that Parker, who was very close by, couldn't notice her friend being smuggled, hooded, out of a college dorm at gunpoint... or that, at least, she couldn't track/trace signs of that kidnapping... again, in a very public building on a public campus. Eliot had other, morally sounder options for finding Hardison. He just didn't take them. 

I'll admit, we went back and forth on that beat a lot in the writers room. I was very personally uncomfortable with it, as any professional will tell you torture doesn't work. We had to for a while pretend otherwise in this country so that we could politely ignore the fact that we were doing things we executed Japanese soldiers for doing in World War II. If we didn't ignore it, then we had to face the uncomfortable idea that we'd let a few crazy people into the top tier. (NOTE: Do not take this as an invitation to send me "we got crucial information" quotes from the War on Terror. Because then I'll have to send you the "We could have got it other ways, a lot of it was a waste of time, and we ruined our rep internationally" quotes, and then we've both wasted an afternoon)

In the end, we went with the idea that Eliot is a man who deals in very precise amounts of violence, and this is the way he'd get the quickest answer. Its not the choice Nate would have made, or Sophie, but it's the choice Eliot made. And to a great degree the fact that's in his toolbox is one of the things he tries to live down every day.

@Anonymous: When Parker was going into the lab how did she see the graph with the numbers to the combination? Hardison-specialized glasses? 

Nope, she can tell what numbers you're pushing by reading your elbow movement from behind. You can actually do this. Cool trick once you learn how.

@Geek Girl: Just one question from an editing geek girl... Was "The Experimental Job" edited in Final Cut Pro X??? There were some pretty distinct "X-ish" looking effects. 

There's still no good workflow for Red for Final Cut X. We're sticking with Final CUt Pro for now. That problem may be solved by the start fo S5.

@Denny S. Bryce: ... Love Parker and Hardison. Just promise me you won't break my heart with these two, or Eliot, or Sophie or Nate. After some brutal days with Buffy, I appreciate watching a show that has tested my heart strings beautifully, but no grinding it into dust...promise (but then again you writers live to torture your characters:) Sorry this is so long...took me three days to get up the courage to post. 

Why would need to get your courage up? We type like everybody else, one leg after the other. Wait, no.

I'm not Joss Whedon (for better or worse) as we've discussed in previous posts. On the other hand, I do so love Blake's 7 ...

@Anonymous: My question: Parker seemed more grown up in the last eps but acts now more "childish" like she did it in the beginng. Why? 

Hmm, just a one-off for dealing with her emotions in a way she wasn't prepared for. It's always half writing, half Beth making a choice, for Parker.

@Dr. Matt: @jamoche: The best outcome for the pair is for both to stay mute. The way the situation is usually presented, the best outcome for an individual is if they squeal while the other stays mute. Nate-as-professor is right about what the game-theory math says: if you assume that the other person has made their choice, then regardless of what it is you're better off talking than not talking. Hardison's response about "superrationality" comes from Douglas Hofstadter's columns about the Prisoner's Dilemma from Scientific American in the early 80s (and hence the name-check of "Hofstadter's Theorem"): if we assume that rational people in the same situation should come to the same decision, then the real choice is between "(we both) talk" and "(we both) stay silent", and the latter is a better outcome. 

Wow, you got the Hofstader reference. Damn.

@Liza: Question 1: What are the teams view on Nate and Sophies relationship? (We never got a very clear answer on the show)Question 2: Does Eliot have a thing for Tara? 

1.) Mostly "about damn time" amused. It's a train wreck, but it's their train wreck, if you get my meaning. 2.) Everybody has a little thing for Tara.

@Riley7: Not trying to diss the plot or anything, but how come Parker and Eliot are never in a situation where they have to pretend to be a couple? I mean I guess it does make sense because there is the whole Parker and Hardison thing, but it just seemed a little unrealistic that it would never happen. 

There are many, many jobs happening off-screen you do not see, and you may well see that pairing someday. But as we've discussed before, Eliot's job is to keep the exits clear, and that usually means a solo/periphery role for him.

@Stick: I'm aware "a dwarf, an elf and a thing with a tail" is primarily a reference to dwarves, elves and however you spell the knockoff Tieflings in WoW, but... The Fell's Five connection still made me smile. (Also, the one telling Hardison this was the innocent sociopath thief who's been know to accidentally stab people.) I'd love to see you talk a bit about the D&D comic here, but I suspect your workload is near-lethal as it is. 

I may do so in a blog post soon. Thanks for the plug, though.  

@USRaider: A brilliant resumption of the season with "The Experimental Job." My PhD wife, who knows something about collegiate experiments, brought up the factor that such a project would have to go through an IRB, but bought that the CIA would somehow be able to circumvent that protocol. She also was a bit stunned when I pointed out previous American government experiments (the A bomb, Agent Orange, etc.) that a supposed "free society" has done on its people in the past. 1) What would happen if there was one member of our squad that was not available for duty? For example, if Parker wasn't available for some reason, who would do the thief work? While they have been able to adapt, to have an entirely new person step into an area that they lack expertise might be dangerous. 2) Why involve the female detective at all at the end? Nate and the crew could have just as well set the situation up for the kid to turn on Conrad, so it seemed it was unnecessary. 3) We now have two figures that have their crosshairs on the team. As this season is about consequences (and it looks as though there are some severe ones on the horizon), how will the team recover? 4) Might be a silly question, but was it intentional to set up the secret society party and the homeless shelter in such stark difference? 5) A Sophie driven con would be good for Christmas! 

1.) You get to see variations on this theme in "Girls Night Out" and "Boys Night Out Job". 2.) We needed to show that he'd be sucked back into the process/investigation already established, so we didn't have to set up a new one at the end. Also, cool lesbian detective. So, why not? 3.) They're resilient. They could even bounce back from, say, a shocking death ... 4.) That's some mighty fine directing by Marc Roskin. 5.) You actually get one, precisely on Christmas!

@CGI Yoda: Unrelated question: Does the bartender at McRory's know what Nate and the gang do (like Eddie in Hustle)? 

Yes. The entire local CrimeWorld is aware.

@Staffan: Speaking of the elf/dwarf/draenei comment... isn't Hardison Horde? Or was that just the guy he pretended to be when infiltrating an office back in the day? 

No, he's Horde. I think she may have been referring to League of Legends.

@ZettaComposer: Great episode! Is Parker rescuing Hardison going to be a recurring thing? First a grave, now a fraternity/secret organization. 

Not a recurring thing, more a byproduct of my near-ironclad rule that we don't put our female characters in damsel-in-distress situations. Makes my skin crawl.

@Anna: 1.) I can't remember her name, but do you plan on bringing back the cop? She's kind of my new hero. 2.) It was a great episode, but I've gotta admit the simplification of the Prisoner's Dilemma bugged me. If you cut down the second half of the dilemma because you thought it was too complicated for the audience, I've seen the whole concept explained on a single page in a magazine for 8 year olds, so trust me, they can take it. If you cut it out because the scam would be ruined if Zilgram heard more than the "ratting makes the most sense" part, then I'd argue that a senior at what is presumably an Ivy League school would probably have at least heard of the Prisoner's Dilemma. Meh. Maybe I'm just old and crotchety because Numb3rs did the same kind of thing when they covered the Prisoner's Dilemma, and you are the two shows that I know put effort into research. Such flagrancy in the face of game theory! 

1.) She'll be around. 2.) You and I and Veach are the only ones who care. The explanation is also tainted because Nate is setting up the flip at the end.

@CL: 1.) Is the female detective a replacement for Bonnano? Where is Bonnano then? (in the TV show, not real life) 2.) If it's known associates then you mean it's Leverage right? Because they combine Eliot and Hardison together. Why doesn't the file have Nate and Sophie's picture as well? (because if it has I guess the last con on "interrogation room" won't work, isn't it?) 

1.) Nope, parallel character. You'll see Bonanno this weekend. 2.) Assume they went through the file and only really recognized Hardison. Cut for time.

@ evening_shadow: So I was re-watching the ep, with my cc's on, of course, and I noticed something odd. In the scene when Parker rescues Hardison from the library, she knocks the guys out and then she's bending down to get Hardison, saying 'Okay.' He's on his stomach, reaching over like he just grabbed something from the student's pocket or from around his neck, and he says, 'Got it.' This is the last we see of the two during this ep. Was this moment in relation to something that cut, is it foreshadowing related to Nate's 'Now it begins,' or was there some change in the dialogue? 

Change in the dialogue, I think. Rewatching, I'm not sure myself. I'll have to check the script.

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Whew. All right, a day or two down, and then I'll gird my loins for The Office Job Comments. Which should be ... interesting.

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Mary Sue said...

Not a recurring thing, more a byproduct of my near-ironclad rule that we don't put our female characters in damsel-in-distress situations. Makes my skin crawl.

I could kiss you full on the mouth for this.

And by "kiss you full on the mouth" I of course mean buy you a drink.

And by 'buy you a drink' I mean keep watching your shows and buying your comics and making other people watch your shows and buy your comics.

*nods*

@Devinoch: Has a "theme" been picked for the fifth season yet? [...]
"Consequences."


Niiiiice. I look forward to it.

james said...

I never knew Parker had aspergers. This makes me wonder why she doesn’t take any medication then or the fact that aspergers can bring on physical clumsiness and repetitive behavior. Yet parker is a thief. Required to have excellent control of her body. Why isn’t it addressed on a clinical level? I always thought she was just weird in a sense not a genetic “disorder”.

zob said...

First HotD reference and now Stainless Steel Rat. You are way cooler than you should be.

Quick question, since you mentioned Zero protocols. When will Michelle Forbes guest on Leverage :)

Anonymous said...

"Not a recurring thing, more a byproduct of my near-ironclad rule that we don't put our female characters in damsel-in-distress situations. Makes my skin crawl."

Feminist everywhere are probably throwing a party for you. Even though a good Damsel in distress storyline never hurt anyone. If properly told of course.

Ian said...

@evening_shadow @John: Hardison grabbed the 206 pin off one of the fallen guys. Since he was never inducted, all he had was the wooden initiation chip.

He needed the pin at the end when he was brought, beaten and bloody, to the CIA guy: "I've got information for you, dustman to dustman."

There is, by the way, a real-world version of the Order of the 206, who are almost exactly as depicted, and yes, they're terrifying. A lot of very powerful people are members.

Erin said...

Thank you so much for your discussion of the writing process behind the scene where Eliot beat the information out of the interrogator. I was also uncomfortable with it, while simultaneously feeling that it was a believable choice for Eliot to make.

I certainly didn't come away feeling that the writers of Leverage think torture is awesome and super-effective. I felt like it was one last glimpse into The Room Where You Do Not Go and, if anything, a reminder that modeling *actual policy* on the behavior of fictional badasses is a fucking terrible idea.

antisocialbutterflie said...

Thank you John. As always, thank you.

ellabell said...

"They're resilient. They could even bounce back from, say, a shocking death ... "

UM, NO. PLEASE NO.

That is all.

Gordon said...

"They're resilient. They could even bounce back from, say, a shocking death ... "

Well, there goes any idea of me getting any sleep, as I try to figure out who you could mean here...

Raksha said...

"I'm not Joss Whedon (for better or worse) as we've discussed in previous posts. On the other hand, I do so love Blake's 7 ..."

NOT FUNNY! That is NOT funny. My blood just ran cold.

the_eye said...

As nice as you need her to have been to continue watching the show.

Mr. Rogers, you are a dirty, dirty man. No wait. Damn!

allyone said...

All I can say is Maggie better not go down in that finale! My head will totally explode. Seriously, Rogers. The safety and integrity of my head is in your hands.

ellabell said...

@allyone: I'm with you. You CANNOT kill Maggie! (even if she's happy as a kick ass CIA agent. Maggie is sacred!)

@Gordon: Yep, that's going to keep me up at night.

Nekussa said...

Oh, I get that "Blake's 7" reference! And it would be a scary but awesome way to go out. :)

When you said that the homeless veterans' shelter "got a whole new building," my mind suddenly did a Leverage+Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog crossover with Captain Hammer presiding at the opening of the new building...

Red said...

"my near-ironclad rule that we don't put our female characters in damsel-in-distress situations. Makes my skin crawl." Thank you! One of the reasons I love Leverage.

"Revenge is the younger punky sister" I just finished mainlining that show. Can't wait for it to come back. Will look for the cross over fan fic now. Hmmm, how would Tyler do against...Nate? Nolan v. Hardison? Sophie v. Emily?

Chad Underkoffler said...

[HARDISON'S FILE] 4.) In RL, it's chuffah text, not meant to be read. In the Leverage-verse it's quite fascinating reading. It includes their attempts at recruiting him years ago, and his qualification for the now disgraced Zero Protocols. Which is a curious coincidence considering Eliot actually has ...never mind.

You are a bad, bad man, Rogers.

"Agent, you are on the Global Frequency."

(I wanna see the pilot, but I have nagging cyber-guilt.)

mrmike said...

(I wanna see the pilot, but I have nagging cyber-guilt.)

Me too. I'd give a substantial amount of lucre for a good quality legal venue to obtain it.

ErinKM said...

Thanks, the "shocking death" thing is going to give me weeks of anxiety. D:

Denny S. Bryce said...

Thank you for doing what you do. But "shocking death"? Seriously. Seriously? I could maim you for the level of angst running through my brain right now...but at the same time, I love you, for making me crazy...(does that make me kind of sick?)

StuftZombie said...

"You will never see Eliot running in his poncy nightshirt through the woods because his bone claws just came in."

Excuse me....BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Okay I'm good now.

Nekussa said...

OK, which of the X-Movies do I need to catch in order to see this famous "poncy nightshirt" scene?

Erin said...

@Nekussa

That would be X-Men Origins: Wolverine, which I will actually defend as being pretty entertaining in a "cool guys don't look at explosions" kind of way, but does include the laughably terrible poncy nightshirt scene.

Anonymous said...

@james said...
I never knew Parker had aspergers.

She doesn't have Asperger's syndrome. She is the product of an upbringing that didn't include a good social role model. Even at her oddest, Parker never approaches what real (not TV) Asperger's behavior looks like.

msd said...

Tequila's not a drink, its a drug. The only thing I can't drink....

Neither can I! 1 shot of tequila and....well, nevermind.


@ Anonymous - She doesn't have Asperger's syndrome. She is the product of an upbringing that didn't include a good social role model.

I agree - I always saw her as having some kind of attachment disorder from her upbringing. Her new "family" is helping her form attachments.

xjill said...

I kindof love how you're a little more snarky than usual in these answers. I also appreciate your remarks about how hopeful/naive we are. You mentioned in a entry awhile back how exhausting it is researching all the badness in the world. It really must be tough; I know I wouldn't want to know what you know.

"4.) Eliot is warmed by his rage."
I did LOL I will admit.

Thanks as ever for taking the time to do these.

Anonymous said...

@msd said...
I agree - I always saw her as having some kind of attachment disorder from her upbringing. Her new "family" is helping her form attachments.

That works for me, too, and I may have said so a while back. Mostly it's even simpler: a lack of a consistent socially well-adjusted role model until she met Archie. (We'll leave the moral element of that relationship for another discussion.)

What most folks miss is that the key to identifying Asperger's isn't the quirky social behavior, it's detecting the absence of socio-linguistic concepts that lead to quirky behavior. Parker exhibits none of that.

allison said...

You know, much as I appreciate the philosophy, I don't think I'd mind a little bit of a damsel in distress situation as long as the damsel in question was rescued by the other damsel. I guess we got that a tiny bit in The Girls' Night Out Job with Sophie and Tara ditching their plans to help Parker out - and in various episodes where Sophie depends on Parker to get her out of buildings, etc. - but I think it would be cool every now and then to see Parker rescuing Sophie or the other way around. I would trust you guys to do it in a non-exploitative way with the rescuee participating appropriately in her own rescue.

Thanks for doing these!

jamoche said...

Best "damsel in distress" plot I've seen recently was on the new My Little Pony - while all the other characters on the rescue mission are imagining worst case scenarios, the damsel in question is pulling a Ransom of Red Chief scenario on her captors.

It occurred to me that after the con part of Nate's class ended with Hardison & the mark storming out, he still had to keep teaching - bet that was interesting, because somebody in that class had to have pointed out that PD is Game Theory 101.

allyone said...

I am also thankful that there's an aversion to damsels in distress in the writer's room, but I would just say - sometimes a damsel isn't a girl. Hardison is starting to look a bit like a damsel this season, but I trust that you guys won't go overboard with it.

It seems to me like team members in mortal danger is something that's been avoided for the most part on this show, although not sure if that's intentional or not. I like that about the show and hope that remains the case.

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Anna said...

Once again, thanks so much for all the answers!!!

And by the way, I just got my hands on the first Blue Beetle trade paperback, and it's amazing!!! Though I see how you recycled that "10 pounds of crazy in a 5 pound bag" line, you sly dog you. Between Oracle's short appearance in the beginning and your line about damsels in distress just now, could you PLEASE find a way to write Birds of Prey? I have a feeling that might just be one of the best things ever.

Rogers said...

@Anna - I'm not going to beat Gail's run in BRDS OF PREY. I'm not even good enough to take a swing at it after her run.

Anonymous said...

... We don't put our female characters in damsel-in-distress situations

Cheers on this! Although, I guess Hardison draws the short straw, because of the three male characters he is by far the easiest to whump.

Eliot doesn't kill anymore unless he has to.

So when he offered to kill the psychic in The Future Job, he wasn't serious? Darn. I was really hoping he was serious.

I wonder which characters the team are willing to kill? Parker doesn't seem to have a problem with it, since she repeatedly requested the psychic's death. People could easily have died in the explosions that Hardison rigged up in The Stork Job, The First David Job, and The Gone Fishin Job, so Hardison doesn't seem to have a problem with it either. (I don't list Big Bang Job, because presumably they checked that no-one else was in the compartment in that one; in the other three he had no way of knowing).

Anna said...

@Rogers Yeah, Gail Simone's a pretty impossible act to follow, but I think you'd be worthy of a swing.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous from 3:14 here.

Oops. I thought a little harder and realised that I was totally wrong-- Hardison and Parker *did* actually kill in Big Bang Job; they could have thrown the two guards out of the compartment before blowing up the battery (American trains move slowly, so you could probably survive that), but they didn't.

So I guess the only character who has never killed anyone either directly or by proxy is Sophie.

Rogers said...

@Anonymous

Oh, yeah, the psychic. For Parker, he would have at least considered killing that guy.

kta said...

"Shocking death" hmmm, of course it's the leading ellipsis that makes it truly frightening. I have this horrible fear that you're going to kill Eliot in a sort of answer to his killing....everyone...in last season's closer and then CK can go on to international musical fame. But you wouldn't do that, right?

Anonymous said...

In response to the original conception of an episode depicting a legitimate path Hardison could have taken:

I don't get it. Why didn't Hardison take a legitimate path? Before working with Leverage, I mean. Presumably the CIA offered to wipe his record. And I don't know about the CIA, but the NSA pays its talent really well, so it can't be the money. You also get to work with a lot of other geeks, so he wouldn't be constantly made fun of by his colleagues either.

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Anonymous said...

Nikita -- a great spy show, by the way, very underrated

So does Albert Kim get the shout-out in return for or despite killing you and Downey off in an episode? On the pro side, it *was* Maggie Q with swords...

Anonymous said...

Was the torturing of the interrogator really all that much worse than all the other times Eliot beat somebody (oftentimes some oblivious security guard who is just doing his job) up? The camera didn't show what he was doing, but it sounded like he was hitting the guy, which, I mean, well, "hitter", right?

Unknown said...

"In the Leverage-verse it's quite fascinating reading. It includes their attempts at recruiting him years ago, and his qualification for the now disgraced Zero Protocols. Which is a curious conicidence considering Eliot actually has ...never mind."

Did Hardison almost get a fancy cell phone?

Anonymous said...

I was very personally uncomfortable with [Eliot beating up the interrogator], as any professional will tell you torture doesn't work.

Eliot said, "it depends on the man". This could mean the victim, but I think he means the perpetrator; the reason torture doesn't work is often cited to be that the victim tends to tell a lie to get it to stop, and you can't tell if they're sending you on a wild goose chase. But by you I mean the generic you, and you probably also don't think Hardison has a tell in rock-paper-scissors.

What I'm saying is, torture doesn't work for extracting information, just like appetizers don't work for defeating famous hitters from Kiev.

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just passing on a newspaper item: Feds seize counterfeit honey from Salem warehouse as part of multi-state probe | OregonLive.com http://bit.ly/zTlAeS

bees, barrels of honey, portland, evil asian underworld.

just thought it was an interesting article.

Helena Brie said...

Try to deal with casinos en ligne and you'll get to know what dirty job means

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I mean keep watching your shows and buying your comics and making other people watch your shows and buy your comics.

Obat Jengger Ayam Ampuh said...

Hi... I will forward this article to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read. Thanks for sharing!

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tersedia untuk memperlakukan kutil dengan sendiri? Mungkin ini semua pertanyaan yang mungkin Anda pertanyakan pada diri Anda sendiri jika saat ini Anda memilki kutil Berikut dibawah ini pembahasan dari cara mengobati kutil kelamin tanpa operasi dengan menggunakan obat kutil kelamin tradisional paling manjur aman

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Tina Mulya said...

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Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
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Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria | PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Bibir Memek
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
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Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
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Tina Mulya said...

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obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat Kutil Pada Memek | Cara Menyembuhkan Kutil Pada Kemaluan Wanita
Penyembuhan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina | Penyakit Kelamin Kutil
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin dan Cara Penyembuhanya
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Memek
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Obat Menghilangkan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina
Tumbuh Kutil di Penis Dan Anus | Obat Herbal Penyakit Kelamin
Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria | PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
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Obat Penyakit kutil Kelamin Wanita
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
Berbahayakah Kutil Kelamin

Tina Mulya said...

Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Obat Kutil di Batang Zakar
Obat Kutil Di Kemaluan Wanita | Penyakit Kelamin Wanita
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Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Vagina
obat jengger ayam untuk wanita
Kutil Di Alat Kelamin Serta Cara Menghilangkanya
obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat Kutil Pada Memek | Cara Menyembuhkan Kutil Pada Kemaluan Wanita
Penyembuhan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina | Penyakit Kelamin Kutil
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin dan Cara Penyembuhanya
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Memek
Cara Menghilangkan Kutil Di Kemaluan | Vagina, Anus, Atau Penis Tumbuh Kutil
Obat Menghilangkan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina
Tumbuh Kutil di Penis Dan Anus | Obat Herbal Penyakit Kelamin
Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria | PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Bibir Memek
Obat Penyakit kutil Kelamin Wanita
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
Berbahayakah Kutil Kelamin
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Obat Kutil di Batang Zakar
Obat Kutil Di Kemaluan Wanita | Penyakit Kelamin Wanita
Obat Penghilang Kutil Kelamin
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Vagina
obat jengger ayam untuk wanita
Kutil Di Alat Kelamin Serta Cara Menghilangkanya
obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat Kutil Pada Memek | Cara Menyembuhkan Kutil Pada Kemaluan Wanita
Penyembuhan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina Dan Definisi Penyakit Kelamin Kutil
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin dan Cara Penyembuhanya

Tina Mulya said...

Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Memek
Cara Menghilangkan Kutil Di Kemaluan Vagina, Anus, Atau Penis Tumbuh Kutil
Obat Menghilangkan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina
Tumbuh Kutil di Penis Dan Anus Dan Obat Herbal Penyakit Kelamin
Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria dan Penjelasan tentang PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Bibir Memek
Obat Penyakit kutil Kelamin Wanita
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
Berbahayakah Kutil Kelamin
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Obat Kutil di Batang Zakar
Obat Kutil Di Kemaluan Wanita | Penyakit Kelamin Wanita
Obat Penghilang Kutil Kelamin
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Vagina
obat jengger ayam untuk wanita
Kutil Di Alat Kelamin Serta Cara Menghilangkanya
obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat Kutil Pada Memek | Cara Menyembuhkan Kutil Pada Kemaluan Wanita
Penyembuhan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina | Penyakit Kelamin Kutil
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin dan Cara Penyembuhanya
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Memek
Cara Menghilangkan Kutil Di Kemaluan | Vagina, Anus, Atau Penis Tumbuh Kutil
Obat Menghilangkan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina
Tumbuh Kutil di Penis Dan Anus | Obat Herbal Penyakit Kelamin
Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria | PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Bibir Memek
Obat Penyakit kutil Kelamin Wanita
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
Berbahayakah Kutil Kelamin

Tina Mulya said...

Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Obat Kutil di Batang Zakar
Obat Kutil Di Kemaluan Wanita | Penyakit Kelamin Wanita
Obat Penghilang Kutil Kelamin
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Vagina
obat jengger ayam untuk wanita
Kutil Di Alat Kelamin Serta Cara Menghilangkanya
Obat Penyakit kutil Kelamin Wanita
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
Berbahayakah Kutil Kelamin
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Obat Kutil di Batang Zakar
Obat Kutil Di Kemaluan Wanita | Penyakit Kelamin Wanita
Obat Penghilang Kutil Kelamin
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Vagina
obat jengger ayam untuk wanita
Kutil Di Alat Kelamin Serta Cara Menghilangkanya
obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat Kutil Pada Memek | Cara Menyembuhkan Kutil Pada Kemaluan Wanita
Penyembuhan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina | Penyakit Kelamin Kutil
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin dan Cara Penyembuhanya
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Memek
Cara Menghilangkan Kutil Di Kemaluan | Vagina, Anus, Atau Penis Tumbuh Kutil
Obat Menghilangkan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina
Tumbuh Kutil di Penis Dan Anus | Obat Herbal Penyakit Kelamin

Tina Mulya said...

Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria | PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Bibir Memek
Obat Penyakit kutil Kelamin Wanita
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Ibu Hamil
Cara Menghilangkan kutil Di Kelamin Pria
Di Sekitar Penis Tumbuh Kutil ? Obatnya Apa ?
Berbahayakah Kutil Kelamin
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata
Obat Kutil di Batang Zakar
Obat Kutil Di Kemaluan Wanita | Penyakit Kelamin Wanita
Obat Penghilang Kutil Kelamin
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Vagina
obat jengger ayam untuk wanita
Kutil Di Alat Kelamin Serta Cara Menghilangkanya
obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat Kutil Pada Memek | Cara Menyembuhkan Kutil Pada Kemaluan Wanita
Penyembuhan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina | Penyakit Kelamin Kutil
Penyebab Kutil Kelamin dan Cara Penyembuhanya
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Di Bibir Memek
Cara Menghilangkan Kutil Di Kemaluan | Vagina, Anus, Atau Penis Tumbuh Kutil
Obat Menghilangkan Kutil Di Bibir Vagina
Tumbuh Kutil di Penis Dan Anus | Obat Herbal Penyakit Kelamin
Kenapa Ada Kutil Di bibir Vagina ? Cara mengobatinya Bagaimana?
Tanda-Tanda Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Wanita
Obat Kutil di Kemaluan Pria | PENYAKIT KELAMIN JENGGER AYAM
Kutil Kelamin Condyloma Acuminata Pada Bibir Memek

Anonymous said...

Salah satu Penyakit Menular Seksual (PMS) adalah Penyakit Kutil Kelamin. Banyak orang yang belum tahu apa itu penyakit kutil kelamin dan cara mengatasinya. Berikut pertanyaan yang sering diajukan untuk mengenal lebih jauh Penyakit Kutil Kelamin.

Paket Produk de Nature Obat Kutil kelamin herbal, Solusi terbaik untuk menyembuhkan penyakit kelamin yang sedang anda derita, aman dan tanpa efek samping




Anonymous said...

Jengger ayam biasa di sebut kutil kelamin atau Kondiloma Akuminata itu sendiri merupakan penyakit yang cukup berbahaya dan mengganggu. Disamping itu, mengidap penyakit seperti ini merupakan hal yang cukup memalukan apabila sampai diketahui oleh orang lain atau bahkan sampai diketahui oleh publik. menyebabkan beban psiskologis bagi penderita, Kurang Percaya diri dll. Oleh karena itu, kami sarankan agar segera diobati supaya lekas sembuh.

Anonymous said...

Sobat sudah mencoba berobat kemana-mana? Mencoba berbagai macam produk untuk pengobatan kutil kelamin seperti dibuang paksa (di cungkil), Operasi, Laser dan Pembekuan akan tetapi tapi hasilnya nihil bahkan kutil tumbuh lagi. De Nature Indonesia memiliki sebuah produk alami yang super ampuh untuk mengobati penyakit seperti ini. Dalam waktu 5 sampai dengan 10 hari saja bisa dipastikan kutil pada kelamin anda akan RONTOK dan BERSIH.

obatwasirambeien ambeclear said...

Solusi yang tepat untuk mengobati penyakit wasir tanpa harus operasi, menggunakan obat wasir  Paling ampuh dari De Nature dan terbaik ada hanya di http://obatwasirme.blogspot.com untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan wasir silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" Adalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan (BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.

Obat Kanker said...

Terdapat beberapa macam teknik pengobatan berbagai jenis penyakit kanker termasukyang menyerang para wanita. Teknik pengoabatan tersebut adalah teknik pengobatan medis dan teknik pengobatan alternative.Sayangnya teknik pengobatan medis sering sekali digunakan oleh sebagian besar penderita kanker. Namun hasil dari pengobatan ini tak seperti yang diharapkan. Sebaliknya, efek samping dari teknik pengobatan medis ini justru menambah parah kondisi kesehatan tubuh si penderita. Radioterapi, kemoterapi, dan pembedahan ternyata tak seefektif apa yang anda harapkan. Namun semua akan membaik jika anda mengkombinasikan teknik pengobatan medis ini dengan teknik pengobatan alternative.

Untung Ada OS said...

Tidak adanya tindakan pengobatan maka akan tumbuh seperti bonkol yang besar sekali, dapat tumbuh seperti kembang kol dan tidak menyebar. Karena kemiripan bentuknya, kutil kelamin pun sering disebut dengan jengger ayam. Meskipun kutil kelamin hanya tumbuh di alat kelamin tetapi lebih mengganggu dibandingkan kutil di bagian tubuh lainnya.

Tina Mulya said...

Mengapa Ambelcear De Nature Indonesia sebagai obat wasir ? http://obatwasirampuh.blogspot.com/
Ambeclear De Nature Indonesia dirancang secara khusus  untuk sembuhkan wasir ringan maupun parah secara alami.uji klinis telah menunjukkan bahwa produk ini aman dan tidak memiliki efek samping.  Ambeclear De Nature Indonesia, Herbal Kami terbuat dari daun ungu pilihan yang sudah banyak membantu mengobati pasien wasir atau ambeien.

Untung Ada OS said...

Nmn satu hal yang jg harus di sdri dari pngbtn penyakit ini adalah pd umumnya pymbhn hanya  menghilangkan kutilnya saja, sedangkan vrs yang mnjdi penyebab  tentu . Karena itu juga  akhirnya penyakit ini sering berulang atau kambuh kembali

Untung Ada OS said...

Kutil pada kemaluan atau alat vital ditularkan terutama melalui hubungan seksual. Dalam kasus yang jarang, penularan dapat terjadi secara tidak langsung setelah menggunakan handuk yang terkontaminasi. Bayi juga dapat terinfeksi selama proses kelahiran. http://caramengobatikutildikelamin.blog.com/


Tina Mulya said...

Penyakit ini umumnya muncul karena penderita mengejan terlalu keras pada saat buang air besar. Dengan mengejan terlalu keras, maka pembuluh darah di sekitar anus dapat melebar dan pecah menimbulkan infeksi dan pembengkakan yang berakhir pada masalah wasir atau ambeien tersebut.

Klinik De Nature said...

Bila anda sedang mencari Pengobatan alami untuk mengobati kutil Kelamin dengan menggunakan obat kutil Kelamin Alami Alami Tanpa Operasi kutil yang ada di alat kemaluan rontok Solusi yang tepat untuk mengobati penyakit wasir tanpa harus operasi, menggunakan obat wasir  Paling ampuh dari De Nature dan terbaik ada hanya di http://obatwasirme.blogspot.com untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan wasir silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" Adalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan (BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.

Klinik De Nature said...

Bagaimana Cara mengobati kutil di kemaluan Tanpa Operasi dengan menggunakan obat kutil kelamin tradisional aman bagi wanita serta ibu yang sedang hamil untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan kutil kelamin silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" Adalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.

Untung Ada OS said...

Mengetahui ciri-khas dari kutil kelamin ini: Ada papula kemerahan dan bintik-bintik kecil,secara bertahap akan  menjadi semakin besar dan banyak, biasanya tidak terasa apa-apa,permukaannya tidak rata, lembab dan lembut,papiler,mikosis atau seperti kembang kol serta berkelompok konfluen,merah atau merah muda. Seringkali akar pedikel,rentan terhadap erosi,eksudat(campur cairan),

denature klinik said...

Penderita Penyakit kondiloma atau Kutil Kelamin yang telah terinveksi disarankan untuk segera melakukan pengobatan secepat mungkin sebelum Virus HPV penyebab kutil kelamin makin banyak berkembang biak di dalam sel darah makin lama dibiarkan akan memperparah kondisi organ vital karena kutil kelamin akan terus membesar sehingga terlihat seperti jengger ayam untuk penderita yang baru tertular kurang dari satu bulan biasanya akan lebih cepat ditanggulangi obat kutil kelamin Paling ampuh dari De Nature dan terbaik ada hanya di http://obatkutildikemaluan.blogdetik.com/ untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan kutil pada kelamin silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" AlamiAdalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan (BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.

mistersipilis said...

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Okk Maen said...

salah satu cara yang efektif untuk menghilangkan kutil yang tumbuh di vagina adalah dengan obat herbal denture indonesia.Obat yang mamapu menghilangkan kutil sampai akar akarnya.Obat herbal denature penghilang kutil kelamin aman untuk organ kewanitaan karna obat herbal denature terbuat dari bahan herbal pilihan.

Okk Maen said...

Kutil pada alat kelamin luar bisa diangkat melalui laser, krioterapi (pembekuan) atau pembedahan dengan bius lokal. Pengobatan kimiawi, seperti podofilum resin atau racun yang dimurnikan atau asam trikloroasetat, bisa dioleskan langsung pada kutil. Tetapi pengobatan ini memerlukan waktu beberapa minggu sampai beberapa bulan, bisa melukai kulit di sekelilingnya dan sering gatal.

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Untung Ada OS said...

Ada lebih dari 100 jenis Human Papilloma Virus (HPV), dimana sebagian
besarnya relatif tidak berbahaya. Dari 120 tipe HPV yang telah diketahui
hingga saat ini, ada sekitar 30-40 tipe HPV yang menyerang area
kelamin termasuk kulit penis, mulut vagina dan anus.

Untung Ada OS said...

Kutil dalam istilah medis disebut Papilloma. Papilloma itu sebenarnya
sejenis tumor jinak pada kulit, berasal dari penebalan lapisan luar
kulit yang berlebihan. Bentuk kutil ini bisa bermacam-macam.

obat herbal De nature said...

Bahaya penyakit kencing nanah pada pria maupun wanita tidak boleh dipandang sebelah mata. Bakteri penyebab gonore mudah menular pada pria dewasa juga pada wanita hamil dan anak-anak. Manusia adalah inang dari bakteri penyakit gonococcus atau Neisseria gonorrhoeae. Bakteri gonore tidak mudah menjangkiti hewan. Sebuah percobaan

denature klinik said...

Bagi para penderita ambeien yang sudah merasa frustasi dengan penyakit ambeien yang dideritanya karena tidak juga sembuh meski telah di obati oleh berbagai macam obat sekarang bisa bernafas lega karena obat ambeien ampuh untuk mengatasi dan menyembuhkan gangguan penyakit ambeien telah tersedia. Obat ini benar mujarab karena memiliki kandungan herbal alami pilihan yang telah terbukti serta teruji keampuhannya dalam mengatasi penyakit ambeien. http://jamusehatku.blogspot.com Cara menyembuhkan ambeien luar menggunakan bahan bahan alami terbaik Aman Tanpa Efek samping terdiri dari daun ungu, mahkota dewa serta kunyit putih. Cara mengobati dan menyembuhkan wasir yang paling tepat adalah menggunakan AmbeClear De Nature mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi obat Ambeien terbaik Ambeclear dari De Nature Selain itu obat tradisional wasir atau ambeien ini juga terdaftar resmi DINKES RI sehingga bisa dipastikan terjamin mutu dan juga kualitasnya. Anda menderita wasir atau ambeien yang sudah bertahun sudah menyiksa anda Sembuhkan sekarang juga dengan obat wasir ambeien Ambeclear dan Salep Salwa, Obat wasir ambeien herbal yang ampuh dan telah lulus Uji BPOM, serta MUI dan Dinas Kesehatan. call 0852 808 77 999 untuk informasi lebih lanjut.

denature klinik said...

Bagi para penderita ambeien yang sudah merasa frustasi dengan penyakit ambeien yang dideritanya karena tidak juga sembuh meski telah di obati oleh berbagai macam obat sekarang bisa bernafas lega karena obat ambeien ampuh untuk mengatasi dan menyembuhkan gangguan penyakit ambeien telah tersedia. Obat ini benar mujarab karena memiliki kandungan herbal alami pilihan yang telah terbukti serta teruji keampuhannya dalam mengatasi penyakit ambeien. http://jamusehatku.blogspot.com Cara menyembuhkan ambeien luar menggunakan bahan bahan alami terbaik Aman Tanpa Efek samping terdiri dari daun ungu, mahkota dewa serta kunyit putih. Cara mengobati dan menyembuhkan wasir yang paling tepat adalah menggunakan AmbeClear De Nature mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi obat Ambeien terbaik Ambeclear dari De Nature Selain itu obat tradisional wasir atau ambeien ini juga terdaftar resmi DINKES RI sehingga bisa dipastikan terjamin mutu dan juga kualitasnya. Anda menderita wasir atau ambeien yang sudah bertahun sudah menyiksa anda Sembuhkan sekarang juga dengan obat wasir ambeien Ambeclear dan Salep Salwa, Obat wasir ambeien herbal yang ampuh dan telah lulus Uji BPOM, serta MUI dan Dinas Kesehatan. call 0852 808 77 999 untuk informasi lebih lanjut.

denature klinik said...

Bagi para penderita ambeien yang sudah merasa frustasi dengan penyakit ambeien yang dideritanya karena tidak juga sembuh meski telah di obati oleh berbagai macam obat sekarang bisa bernafas lega karena obat ambeien ampuh untuk mengatasi dan menyembuhkan gangguan penyakit ambeien telah tersedia. Obat ini benar mujarab karena memiliki kandungan herbal alami pilihan yang telah terbukti serta teruji keampuhannya dalam mengatasi penyakit ambeien. http://jamusehatku.blogspot.com Cara menyembuhkan ambeien luar menggunakan bahan bahan alami terbaik Aman Tanpa Efek samping terdiri dari daun ungu, mahkota dewa serta kunyit putih. Cara mengobati dan menyembuhkan wasir yang paling tepat adalah menggunakan AmbeClear De Nature mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi obat Ambeien terbaik Ambeclear dari De Nature Selain itu obat tradisional wasir atau ambeien ini juga terdaftar resmi DINKES RI sehingga bisa dipastikan terjamin mutu dan juga kualitasnya. Anda menderita wasir atau ambeien yang sudah bertahun sudah menyiksa anda Sembuhkan sekarang juga dengan obat wasir ambeien Ambeclear dan Salep Salwa, Obat wasir ambeien herbal yang ampuh dan telah lulus Uji BPOM, serta MUI dan Dinas Kesehatan. call 0852 808 77 999 untuk informasi lebih lanjut.

obat kutil kelamin herbal said...

pengobatan wasir ambeien secara alami dengan menggunakan obat herbal ambeclear dari klinik de natureKebanyakan obat ambeien yang di jual di pasaran hanya mengurangi rasa sakit saja tidak menyembuhkan sama sekali obat wasir alami yang paling manjur adalah ambeclear dari klinik de nature indonesia segera kontak kami secepatnya untuk mendapatkan pengobatan wasir ambeien tanpa operasi call 0852 808 77 999.

obat kutil kelamin herbal said...

obat wasir paling manjur ambeclear dari klinik de nature - Kebanyakan obat ambeien yang di jual di pasaran hanya mengurangi rasa sakit saja tidak menyembuhkan sama sekali obat wasir alami yang paling manjur adalah ambeclear dari klinik de nature indonesia segera kontak kami secepatnya untuk mendapatkan pengobatan wasir ambeien tanpa operasi call 0852 808 77 999.

Okk Maen said...

Dikatakan bahwa seorang pria memiliki kesempatan 20 % menghubungi Gonore jika ia memiliki hubungan seksual dengan seorang wanita yang telah menghubungi Gonorrhea . Seorang wanita memiliki 50 % kemungkinan menghubungi Gonore jika dia hubungan seksual dengan seorang pria yang telah menghubungi Gonorrhea . Seorang ibu yang telah menghubungi Gonore dapat menyampaikan penyakit ke bayinya darinya

Evi Fatmawati said...

jenis penyakit kelamin yang sering ditularkan melalui hubungan seksual. Penyakit itu disebabkan oleh sejenis kuman kecil berbentuk kopi yang disebut gonococcus. Dalam keadaan tertentu, penyakit itu mungkin juga berjangkit dari tangan kotor, pakaian kotor, tempat duduk, kamar kecil, bahkan air mandi. Maka walaupun biasanya penyakit ini timbul sekitar

Evi Fatmawati said...

Organ vital atau organ reproduksi manusia merupakan bagian tubuh yang sangat penting untuk menopang kehidupan. Dengan organ ini manusia dapat melanjutkan keturunannya,

Untung Ada OS said...

Obat wasir ambeien tanpa operasi Ambeclear dan Salep Salwa De Nature Indonesia, terbuat dari bahan alami yang aman dan ampuh mengobati wasir dalam, wasir luar dan wasir berdarah dalam waktu singkat.

Untung Ada OS said...

Ambeclear dan salep Salwa terbuat dari bahan-bahan herbal seperti daun ungu, mahkota dewa, kunyit putih, binahong, dan propolis sehingga aman untuk pengobatan wasir baik sebagai obat wasir ambeien pada pria, wanita, anak-anak/balita, ibu hamil dan ibu menyusui tanpa menyebabkan efek samping apapun.

Obat Sipilis said...

Mencari Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa Operasi, alasan malu kedokter dan biayanya pasti lebih mahal kalau harus kedokter biaya operasi kutil kelamin berapa belum konsultasi  spesialis sangat mahal.

Obat Sipilis said...

Paket lengkap Obat Kutil Kemaluan Yang Ampuh dan Manjur, dengan kombinasi herbal antivirus gang jie Obat Kutil Kelamin Herbal dengan ramuan alami pilihan khusus untuk membasmi virus kutil kelamin dan merontokan benjolan kutil kelamin dengan aman dan bersih.

Obat Sipilis said...

Ini Solusinya Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa harus dengan Operasi dan bisa sembuh total, Kekhawatiran anda akan diakhiri dengan pengobatan kami,

Obat Sipilis said...

Mencari Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa Operasi, alasan malu kedokter dan biayanya pasti lebih mahal kalau harus kedokter biaya operasi kutil kelamin berapa belum konsultasi  spesialis sangat mahal.

Obat Sipilis said...

Paket lengkap Obat Kutil Kemaluan Yang Ampuh dan Manjur, dengan kombinasi herbal antivirus gang jie Obat Kutil Kelamin Herbal dengan ramuan alami pilihan khusus untuk membasmi virus kutil kelamin dan merontokan benjolan kutil kelamin dengan aman dan bersih.

Obat Sipilis said...

Ini Solusinya Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa harus dengan Operasi dan bisa sembuh total, Kekhawatiran anda akan diakhiri dengan pengobatan kami,

Obat Sipilis said...

Mencari Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa Operasi, alasan malu kedokter dan biayanya pasti lebih mahal kalau harus kedokter biaya operasi kutil kelamin berapa belum konsultasi  spesialis sangat mahal.

Obat Sipilis said...

Paket lengkap Obat Kutil Kemaluan Yang Ampuh dan Manjur, dengan kombinasi herbal antivirus gang jie Obat Kutil Kelamin Herbal dengan ramuan alami pilihan khusus untuk membasmi virus kutil kelamin dan merontokan benjolan kutil kelamin dengan aman dan bersih.

Obat Sipilis said...

Ini Solusinya Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa harus dengan Operasi dan bisa sembuh total, Kekhawatiran anda akan diakhiri dengan pengobatan kami,

Untung Ada OS said...

Obat sipilis di apotik adalah antibiotik. Fungsi dari obat ini adalah untuk menahan pertumbuhan bakteri penyebab sipilis. Namun sayangnya adalah obat ini tidak seampuh yang dikira.

Untung Ada OS said...

Justru, dengan mengkonsumsi antibiotik sebagai alternatif pengobatan yang murah akan membawa masalah baru untuk anda. Mengapa demikian! Karena, antibiotik hanya menahan sementara dan akan sangat mudah kambuh lagi karena bakteri penyebab tidak hilang atau dimusnahkan. Selain itu, ketika kambuh lagi pengobatan akan cukup sulit dan memakan waktu. Hal tersebut dikarenakan bakteri sudah resistant atau kebal terhadap obat.

Obat Sipilis said...

Mencari Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa Operasi, alasan malu kedokter dan biayanya pasti lebih mahal kalau harus kedokter biaya operasi kutil kelamin berapa belum konsultasi  spesialis sangat mahal.

Obat Sipilis said...

Paket lengkap Obat Kutil Kemaluan Yang Ampuh dan Manjur, dengan kombinasi herbal antivirus gang jie Obat Kutil Kelamin Herbal dengan ramuan alami pilihan khusus untuk membasmi virus kutil kelamin dan merontokan benjolan kutil kelamin dengan aman dan bersih.

Obat Sipilis said...

Ini Solusinya Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa harus dengan Operasi dan bisa sembuh total, Kekhawatiran anda akan diakhiri dengan pengobatan kami,

Obat Sipilis said...

Mencari Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa Operasi, alasan malu kedokter dan biayanya pasti lebih mahal kalau harus kedokter biaya operasi kutil kelamin berapa belum konsultasi  spesialis sangat mahal.

Obat Sipilis said...

Paket lengkap Obat Kutil Kemaluan Yang Ampuh dan Manjur, dengan kombinasi herbal antivirus gang jie Obat Kutil Kelamin Herbal dengan ramuan alami pilihan khusus untuk membasmi virus kutil kelamin dan merontokan benjolan kutil kelamin dengan aman dan bersih.

Obat Sipilis said...

Ini Solusinya Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa harus dengan Operasi dan bisa sembuh total, Kekhawatiran anda akan diakhiri dengan pengobatan kami,

ok said...

 obat kencing nanah De Nature

Obat Kencing Nanah Gang jie dan Gho Siah.Gonore adalah penyakit menular seksual (PMS) yang disebabkan oleh bakteri  Neisseria gonorrhoeae. Bakteri ini dapat ditularkan dari orang ke orang selama aktivitas seksua.Untuk Pemesanan Obat Penyakit Kelamin Kencing Nanah di 0812-2854-1999 atau Pin BB 53E87F23

obat wasir ambeclear said...

cara mengobati wasir secara alami tanpa harus operasi cukup dengan cepat cukup dengan menggunakan obat wasir herbal ambeclear terbuat dari daun ungu serta mahkotadewa serta aman untuk ibu yang

obat wasir ambeclear said...

obat wasir alami de nature ambeclear ampuh sembuhkan wasir tanpa harus operasi cukup dengan menggunakan obat wasir herbal ambeclear terbuat dari daun ungu serta mahkotadewa aman untuk ibu hamil

arief herbal said...

cara yang alami menyembuhkan penyakit wasir ambeien secara alami dengan menggunakan daun ungu serta mahkotadewa aman untuk ibu hamil tanpa operasi cukup dengan menggunakan obat wasir herbal ambeclear terbuat

arief herbal said...

wasir ambeien bisa sembuh tanpa harus di operasi maupun injeksi cukup dengan obat wasir ambeien herbal ambeclear herbal de nature dari daun ungu serta mahkotadewa aman untuk ibu hamil

Obat Sipilis said...

Mencari Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa Operasi, alasan malu kedokter dan biayanya pasti lebih mahal kalau harus kedokter biaya operasi kutil kelamin berapa belum konsultasi  spesialis sangat mahal.

Obat Sipilis said...

Paket lengkap Obat Kutil Kemaluan Yang Ampuh dan Manjur, dengan kombinasi herbal antivirus gang jie Obat Kutil Kelamin Herbal dengan ramuan alami pilihan khusus untuk membasmi virus kutil kelamin dan merontokan benjolan kutil kelamin dengan aman dan bersih.

Obat Sipilis said...

Ini Solusinya Obat Kutil Kelamin Tanpa harus dengan Operasi dan bisa sembuh total, Kekhawatiran anda akan diakhiri dengan pengobatan kami,

obat ambeien ambeclear said...

pengobatan herbal ambeien secara alami tanpa harus operasi cukup dengan cepat cukup dengan menggunakan obat wasir herbal ambeclear terbuat dari daun ungu serta mahkotadewa serta aman untuk ibu yang sedang hamil sekalipun tanpa efeks samping

obat ambeien ambeclear said...

Obat herbal wasir yang paling manjur ambeclear dari de Nature ampuh mengobati wasir secara alami tanpa harus operasi cukup dengan cepat cukup dengan menggunakan obat wasir herbal ambeclear terbuat dari daun ungu serta mahkotadewa serta aman untuk ibu yang aman untuk ibu yang

obat kondiloma akuminata said...

cara mengobati kutil kelamin pada wanita tanpa harus menggunakan operasi cukup dengan menggunakan obat khusus kutil kelamin paling manjur dari klinik de nature manjurserta sangat aman untuk ibu hamil

obat kondiloma akuminata said...

Apabila anda sedang mencari pengobatan kutil kelamin untuk pria maupun wanita segera kunjungi kami http://obatkutilkelaminwanita.blogdetik.com cara mengobati kutil kelamin pada wanita tanpa harus menggunakan operasi cukup dengan menggunakan obat khusus kutil kelamin paling manjur dari klinik de nature manjurserta sangat aman untuk ibu hamil

Okk Maen said...

Sangat perlu sekali untuk anda ketahui, penyakit kencing nanah ialah penyakit menular sexsual yang mengakibatkan kencing mengeluarkan nanah. Penyakit ini juga sangat berbahaya sekali, karena dapat menular dengan cepat melalui kontak langsung berhubungan sexsual dengan penderita, bahkan penularannya pun sangat kronis.

Okk Maen said...

Bisa juga melalui uretus ibu kepada anaknya, bila kencing nanah ini mengenai mata , maka akan mengakibatkan terjadinya kebutaan. Tentunya sangat berbahaya sekali penyakit kencing nanah ini bagi penderitanya.

Okk Maen said...

Untuk penyebabnya ialah bakteri neisseria gonorrhoeae yang dapat terjadi karena seseorang melakukan hubungan sexsual dengan penderita kencing nanah, melakukan hubungan sexsual di usia dini, saat berhubungan sexsual tidak memakai pengaman, dan seringnya melakukan hubungan sexsual dengan bergunta ganti pasangan Jika anda didiagnosis mengenai

Okk Maen said...

Penyakit kencing nanah bisa disebabkan oleh beberapa faktor seperti seks bebas, penularan, virus hpv, lingkungan, gaya hidup dan lainnya, Maka dari itu kita harus waspada dengan penyakit kencing nanah ini, karena penyakit kencing nanah sangatlah berbahaya, Namun untuk anda yang menderita penyakit kencing nanah, maka anda tidak perlu khawatir,

Okk Maen said...

Berhati-hatilah anda yang suka berganti-ganti pasangan seks, karena sangat besar sekali kemungkinannya untuk terkena penyakit kencing nanah atau gonore maupun yang lainnya.



Okk Maen said...

Bagi anda yang sedang mencari obat herbal buat kencing nanah atau gonore, kami sarankan untuk memilih obat herba dari De Nature dengan nama Gang jie dan Gho Siah sebagai pengobatan alternatif tradisional alami untuk kencing nanah atau gonore.

Okk Maen said...

Obat sipilis di apotik adalah antibiotik. Fungsi dari obat ini adalah untuk menahan pertumbuhan bakteri penyebab sipilis. Namun sayangnya adalah obat ini tidak seampuh yang dikira.

Okk Maen said...

Justru, dengan mengkonsumsi antibiotik sebagai alternatif pengobatan yang murah akan membawa masalah baru untuk anda. Mengapa demikian! Karena, antibiotik hanya menahan sementara dan akan sangat mudah kambuh lagi karena bakteri penyebab tidak hilang atau dimusnahkan. Selain itu, ketika kambuh lagi pengobatan akan cukup sulit dan memakan waktu. Hal tersebut dikarenakan bakteri sudah resistant atau kebal terhadap obat.

Okk Maen said...

Berapa Harga untuk Obat Wasir Ambeien alami daun ungu AmbeclearAmbeien adalah gangguan atau penyakit yang terjadi pada saluran pencernaan manusia

Okk Maen said...

Pada pria, gejala awal gonore biasanya
timbul dalam waktu 2-7 hari setelah terinfeksi. Gejalanya berawal sebagai rasa tidak enak pada uretra dan beberapa jam kemudian diikuti
oleh nyeri ketika berkemih serta keluarnya nanah dari penis.


Okk Maen said...

Sedangkan
pada wanita, gejala awal biasanya timbul dalam waktu 7-21 hari setelah
terinfeksi.Penderita seringkali tidak merasakan gejala selama beberapa minggu atau bulan, dan diketahui
menderita penyakit tersebut hanya setelah pasangan hubungan seksualnya
tertular

Okk Maen said...

Jika timbul gejala, biasanya bersifat ringan. Tetapi beberapa
penderita menunjukkan gejala yang berat, seperti desakan untuk
berkemih, nyeri ketika berkemih, keluarnya cairan dari vagina, dan
demam.

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Okk Maen said...

Bukan hanya pengobatan medis saja tapi ada juga pengobatan rumah alami yang dapat digunakan untuk menyingkirkan penyakit kutil kelamin ini. Intinya, karena kutil ini muncul di daerah yang sensitif, maka anda harus mencari pengobatan yang terbaik pada kulit Anda dan jika diperlukan juga dibantu dengan tenaga medis yang professional. Sebab dokter akan menjadi sumber informasi yang baik untuk mengobati penyakit ini.

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Okk Maen said...

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Okk Maen said...

Genital wart atau yang dikenal dengan sebutan penyakit kutil genital adalah merupakan diantara penyakit menular seksual yang lumayan banyak penderitanya. Penyakit tersebut timbul faktor dikarenakan adanya infeksi dimana disebabkan oleh aktivitas seksual yang kurang sehat misalnya sering berganti-ganti pasangan.Virus yang mengakibatkan terjadinya penyakit kutil kelamin adalah virus human papilloma virus (HPV). Seperti yang telah dijelaskan, virus tersebut dapat ditularkan faktor bergonta-ganti pasangan

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Okk Maen said...

Berbagai macam obat herbal untuk segala jenis penyakit kelamin baik bagi pria ataupun wanita bahkan ibu hamil sekalipun dan menyusui , yang benar benar telah terbukti ke ampuhanya oleh sekian banyak pasien kami baik dari dalam negri maupun luar negri .

Okk Maen said...

Hemorrhoids External atau Ambeien luar memiliki ciri berada diposisi lubang anus atau dubur. Letak Ambeien luar umumnya berada disisi depan dan bukan berada dibagian dalam lubang anus / dubur.

Hemorrhoids Internal atau Ambeien dalam memiliki letak berada didalam lubang anus.

Okk Maen said...

Bukan hanya pengobatan medis saja tapi ada juga pengobatan rumah alami yang dapat digunakan untuk menyingkirkan penyakit kutil kelamin ini. Intinya, karena kutil ini muncul di daerah yang sensitif, maka anda harus mencari pengobatan yang terbaik pada kulit Anda dan jika diperlukan juga dibantu dengan tenaga medis yang professional. Sebab dokter akan menjadi sumber informasi yang baik untuk mengobati penyakit ini.

Okk Maen said...

Tahukah anda obat kencing nanah paling ampuh, aman, mujarab untuk mengatasi kencing nanah? Jawabannya ialah De Nature Indonesia yang sangat ampuh sekali untuk anda pilih dalam mengatasi penyakit kencing nanah, karena De Nature Indonesia ini terbuat dari bahan 100 % alami berkhasiat untuk pengobatan kencing nanah serta sangat aman tanpa efek samping.

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Untung Ada OS said...

Obat Kutil Kelamin Wanita Paling Manjur yang ada di klinik herbal de nature terbuat dari bahan alami insyaalah dalam 3-5 hari kutil rontok sampai ke akar akarnya tanpa takut akan tumbuh lagi. Kutil kelamin lebih mudah untuk dihapus ketika masih kecil dan sedikit. Pengobatan yang utama...

Okk Maen said...

Cara yang sering di lakukan untuk menghilangkan kutil kelamin adalah dengan cara pembedahah atau operasi, cara ini tentu memerlukan dana yang tidak sedikit. metode Pilihan pembedahan yang dapat Anda lakukan

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Untung Ada OS said...

Penyakit kutil kelamin ini memang sangat umum terjadi di seluruh dunia,
penderita penyakit ini juga

Untung Ada OS said...

Jika penderita lebih memilih obat tradisional Kutil Kelamin Pria untuk
menyembuhkan penyakitnya ini, maka ada beberapa cara tradisional yang
cukup efektif untuk menyembuhkan, tapi tentu saja tidak semua obat itu
benar-benar efektif.

Untung Ada OS said...

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Okk Maen said...

Gejala yang bisa terasa adalah sakit pada bagian tenggotokan, atau juga sakit saat menelan. Bila kencing nanah atau gonore ini sudah positif menjangkit, segeralah cari perawatan untuk benar-benar mengatasinya. Dengan menggunakan produk yang tepat, agar kondisi badan pun akan kembali sehat.


Okk Maen said...

Jangan pernah menyepelekan penyakit ini agan semua, krn bila dibiarin bisa menyebar keseluruh tubuh dan akan menjadi sangat parah dan bisa menyebabkan beberapa penyakit spt kemandulan, impotensi, gagal ginjal, stroke dll. untuk itu lakukan pengobatan segera dengan obat herbal de nature Indonesia.

Untung Ada OS said...

Kenali penyebab penyakit kencing bernanah sehingga cara mengobati
penyakit kencing nanah dan infeksi saluran kencing nanah dapat dilakukan
dengan benar.

Untung Ada OS said...

virus HPV, penularan utamanya memang lewat hubungan seksual akan tetapi
bisa juga menular lewat toilet umum, memakai pakaian bekas penderita
kutil atau bisa juga di picu oleh penyakit kelamin lain. Pada wanita
kutil kelamin sangat cepat sekali berkembang biak, hal ini karena kutil
suka dengan daerah yang lembab.

anditia saeful akbar said...

MANTAB * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *****

restu ibu dan ayah said...

MANTAB * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *****************

Mugi Barokahh said...

MANTAB *

Untung Ada OS said...

Dalam menjalani komitmen rumah tangga kita harus setia dan tidak
melanggar aturan yang telah ada. Karena kita ketahui sekarang ini banyak
orang yang demi kesenangan semata mengejar kepuasan nafsu belaka
sehingga akan menyebabakan berbagai dampak yang sangat luar biasa
menakutkan.

Untung Ada OS said...

Dampak tersebut tidak hanya dampak social semata tetapi juga dampak  kesehatan kita.

Untung Ada OS said...

Bila memiliki kebiasaan seks bebas dan sering berganti pasangan, maka lebih besar lagi kemungkinan terkena gonore ini. Tak hanya menginfeksi organ intim saja, kencing nanah ini juga bisa menginfeksi dan mengenai mulut dan mata.
Jika anda didiagnosis

restu ibu dan ayah said...

Bismillaahirrohmaanirrokhiim ???????????????????????????????????

Untung Ada OS said...

Bila memiliki kebiasaan seks bebas dan sering berganti pasangan, maka lebih besar lagi kemungkinan terkena gonore ini. Tak hanya menginfeksi organ intim saja, kencing nanah ini juga bisa menginfeksi dan mengenai mulut dan mata.
Jika anda didiagnosis

restu ibu dan ayah said...

Bismillaahirrohmaanirrokhiim ?????????????????????????????????

obat wasir ambeclear said...

Informasi tentang pengobatan ambeienberdarah dengan menggunakan bahan-bahan alami dari ektra dun ungu, mahkota dewa serta kunyit putihyang 100% tidak mengandung bahan kima, di jamin aman di konsumsi dan tidak menimbulkan efek samping. ambeienBerdarah adalah suatu penyakit yang terjadi pada anus di mana bibir anus mengalami bengkak yang di sertai pendarahan. cara mengobati wasir ambeien tanpa harus operasi aman paling jos. Penyakit wasir atau sering di sebut ambeien ini tidak hnya memberikan rasa sakit pada penderitanya, tetapi juga memberikan rasa minder dan mau karena mengidap penyakit wasir atau ambeien.

obat wasir ambeclear said...

Wasir sangat menyakitkan, namun wasir umumnya dapat sembuh dengan rutin melakukan pengobatan dan pencegahan. Wasir yang terlambat ditangani atau diobati pastinya akan membuat wasir menjadi lebih membengkak, iritasi dan infeksi.cara mengobati wasir ambeien tanpa harus operasi aman paling jooss.Cara Mengobati Wasir Bersihkan area dubur dengan baik setiap selesai buang air besar. Anda tidak perlu menggunakan sabun karena dapat meningkatkan iritasi. Untuk mengeringkan daerah sekitar wasir, Anda bisa menggunakan tisu lembut yang biasa digunakan untuk bayi.

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