Officially shot as #405, but we switched it up for some production reasons -- not the network so spare them your wrath, please.
Still working on the finale, I should catch up on a few of these tomorrow. Bit for now, you know what to do.
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Already my favorite episode...sight unseen!!! (What? I'm a skater, quads only, though, thanks) With the Rose City Rollers around, have you ever thought of doing something with a corrupt derby official/league/team/player/something? Would LOVE to see Parker (blocker) and Sophie (jammer) on wheels.
Is it easier to write a story based on historical events having so many parameters predetermined, or does the amount of research necessary draw it out?
This isn't a question about tonight's episode, but a thank you to all those responsible for Leverage. Thanks to you, I saw through the Jehovah's Witness ladies who came to my house today. The lady tried to tell me she remembered me from some other time she'd come to my house uninvited and first said, "You have two children, right?" (She must have seen my niece's battery operated Barbie Jeep sitting out.) I said no and then she said, "Dogs. You have two dogs." She was right about that, but not because she remembered me. She saw them in the window when they were barking at her.
And then she did that 'extend the right hand' thing that Sophie did in last season's finale and shook my hand. After that she must have run out of all of her conning tricks, because she fell back on the tired, old, "You look great" compliment that isn't really a compliment.
Also, when Sophie told Hardison that grifters make their own entrances, she wasn't kidding. I have a no trespassing sign on my driveway and the lady said she saw it too late to find a way to turn around so she had to drive all the way to the house. Now once she got there, she didn't turn around and leave as my sign suggested, no she got out of the car and proceeded to tell me about their big convention.
You folks at Leverage are doing a tremendous public service by educating us about all of these tactics. Thanks a bunch!
What was it like to direct Danny Glover? 2. How did Aldis and Christian respond to working with him since they call themselves Riggs and Murtaugh all the time?
So far liking it. Question, of course you shoot in Oregon; and Willamette city supports being in Oregon, yet it obviously shouldn't be, or in Leverge verse did the sundowner laws get revoked in Oregon 30 years earlier? (for those who don't know until after world war 2 there were very vile laws preventing African Americans being in Oregon during the day, with a war time exception for the federal district enclave in Northern Portland where liberty ships were being built). Its a sad part of state history.
I know you have said you guys don't write to the fans (requests), but was the idea for old 'associates' and 'co-workers' of Eliot's showing up an idea you had recently or has it been on the writer's wall for awhile? I really enjoyed that part.
A general question I've been thinking about, what do you think will be the 'fan favorite' ep this season? Not sure what season 1 was, but season 2 seemed to be the two live crew job, and season 3 was the rashomon job, so I was just wondering what you expect season 4's favorite to be?
No question. You guys -- writers, actors, director, costumer, every single one of you -- broke my widdle heart and put it together again. It's not often you write straight for the heart like that, but dammit, you did.
Also, pipe organ fu and barbie bat fu. Much thrashing.
This show is now giving my life long love for the original Star Trek a run.
I love how "flashback" Nate, Sophie and Eliot all recalled their present day characters - Nate's the "this is my town" guy fighting the righteous fight, Eliot's the grim realist and Sophie's the romantic adventurer. Nice way to incorporate those three into the past action.
Danny Glover was superb, and the goodbye scene cutting to him talking about the painting and not getting to see Dorothy again was really excellent.
Also loved that the painting was in one of the organ pipes, that Eliot ran into some other retrieval specialists and that Owen ended up being the bad guy - a nice pulpy twist.
But how is it that Cecilia and the sheriff could still live in that town after the sheriff helped Charlie?
Nice episode, a worthy departure from the series format. (I'll resist the temptation to say "A very special Leverage"...) It threw me, at first, to see Aldis/Hardison playing a young Danny Glover, and his accent wasn't the most consistent, but he - and Beth - won me over. Great job!
One quick question: What was with the shot immediately after the "Welcome to Willemette City"? It looked like a license plate on the rear of a truck was digitally removed, but somewhat unsteadily. Just curious.
I thought the racism was handled perfectly from both the historic (if sixty-odd years ago can be called historic) and modern viewpoints. Aldis nailed Mr. Glover's mannerisms as far as I'm concerned---especially his reaction after the Lt. laid it out for him. My God, if there was any question that the man can act, that scene alone answered it.
This episode ended perfectly, but I still wish that Charlie and Dorothy could have met again . . . I know, but I do.
Aside from this, I loved Hardison and Sophie's reactions to Eliot's fight. And Dorothy/Parker (Hey-O!) not being able to get through a door? Excellent!
I also found it interesting that Nate picked up on the mutation of his former colleague's quest to find the painting. Would this be the ostinato o' the season?
Actual Question: How many "Willamette, Dammit" tee-shirts went home with the cast and crew?
I'm confused about something. If Lawson wasn't credited with killing the sniper, how did the modern treasure hunters connect him to the painting? Considering the way black men were disregarded, why would they have even looked at him for having the painting? How difficult was it for Aldis to do this role? He was amazing, and the scene with Kane discussing the medal was very well executed.
What is it with y'all making me teary this season? There's no crying in Leverage, dammit!
Seriously, I loved the ep. Danny Glover was his usual fantastic self, and the story was lovely. As much as I love the Leverage "spectacle," I'm really enjoying these smaller (if a costume piece can be called "small") character-driven stories.
Aldis and Beth really rocked it tonight (I completely bought them as Charlie and Dorothy), and Nate as a gun-totin' sheriff was fun. And only Eliot could turn a pipe organ into a weapon. ;)
My only real question at this point (apart from the crying thing) is, would Charlie, as an African-American, have served with white soldiers, even as a supply truck driver? I thought the military was pretty rigidly segregated until Truman ordered it desegregated. (And I echo Video Beagle on the kudos for not having Eliot's lieutenant be "ahead of his time" in his treatment of Charlie.)
Oh, and huge props to Nadine Haders for the costumes! The '40s clothes were gorgeous!
... Damn, this ep actually made me cry. I do not cry easily.
(My husband died suddenly when I was in my early 20s, so the whole lost young love thing and never seeing each other again hits close to home.)
I thought Beth and Aldis in particular knocked it out of the park in this, too.
Might be my favorite episode of Leverage EVER, even if it may not end up being my most watched, for obvious reasons.
No real questions - though I will add to the other folks saying it's nice to see things like Eliot running into other retrieval specialists that he's known before. (Mold inspector!)
"What are your plans with my daughter?" Please tell me there's some outtake of Aldis coming up with some smart-ass answer for this. Please. Just to break the tension on set.
@Sarah W - I missed the Dorothy/Parker thing. Good catch!
Well, that was lovely. Was it fun to shoot in black & white? Nice use of color when he unrolled the painting in the tent.
The very ending didn't quite do it for me. Charlie's in just as much danger as ever with the painting found until he turns it over to someone else, so to have them just walk away at the end seemed somewhat unfinished. Staging the final scene at a museum unveiling of their latest acquisition would have felt better.
Re: segregation of the army: The soldiers we saw Charlie with would not have been from his unit; he could have been detached to them for a specific mission that required logistical support.
Oh my, 1940's Beth gives me Feelings. Um. What an episode, obviously going to be on the top of fan lists.
I've got a guess on Briddie's question: Someone in the unit blabbed about Charlie or wrote a diary or something, and it got discovered when billionaires started paying people to investigate.
@ChelseaNH, re: the ending – Hubby also wondered if Charlie wouldn't still be in danger.
My thinking is that the inevitable media storm that would surround the finding of a "lost" Van Gogh might take some of the heat off. The Billionaire's Club can wait until it gets to Boston and pay to have it stolen from the museum. ;)
So "The Billionaire's Club".... Is this "The Billionaire's Club™" or just "a billionaire's club".
Is this something encountered before? Do they have a skull shaped headquarters in a swamp?
********************************* Are "Retrievers" by and large not dangerous/killers? (Eliot, of course, was a former paid killer for a crime lord before he got into Retrieval.) I ask because a bunch of pseudo Eliots coming after the "client" would seem to me to be a notably dangerous thing, but he didn't throw the whinefest he's been having all this season when he hasn't had time to plan for a mission.
Beautiful episode. It was really quite sad, but I enjoyed it a lot.It is so unfair that just having a different skin colour meant you couldn't have so much back then. I'm glad that's not the case anymore.
It was so strange seeing Beth play someone besides Parker. She was wonderful. Aldis was amazing, I though he portrayed the character's desperation, and need to prove himself perfectly.
I loved the scene changes, everything moved along very smoothly. Eliot running into people he knew was hilarious, especially the 'mold inspector'. I loved the bit where Sophie and Hardison can hear the fight.And Eliot's musical showdown, awesomeness!
So congratulations on another wonderful episode! And onto my questions!
1. How many takes did you do of the kiss?
2. Do they really call grenades pineapples?
3. How many people know about the team's headquarters?
I've never commented on this blog before, but I wanted to thank you for such a lovely episode of television.
Only one question: did Aldis spend any time with Mr. Glover in order to pick up his speech patterns and mannerisms? I became so invested in the young Charlie character that it was almost jarring to cut back to Hardison. Kudos to Aldis and Beth.
Pardon my premature speculation [see comment 2]... Sophie's line in the end cleared up any doubt I had of historical validity... and "it was the best story" nuff said.
Charlie gets credit for taking the painting but not for killing the sniper :|
?? Sheriff Nate Magically appears to help Charlie at the rink [jumped out of the Organ box or slipped around the bad guy when we weren't looking?]I'm going with jumping the wall, I've seen Hutton jump on a countertop!
Eliot is adapting to Grifting much better, loved his interpretation [Eliot, You can be my Gas Man anytime...]
Some beautifully genius scene transitions... two that stand out "Eiffel Tower" and "Parker...great job, keep it up"
It seems Charlie recalls Dorothy as Parker and Parker listens and imagines Hardison as Charlie... loved the comparison, esp in the end "don't waste time"
Amazing how you manage to give your fans what they want [Aldis/Beth] without actually giving them what they ask for [Hardison/Parker] ...yet...
Love the "Leslie Nielsen" bits with Nate "what do you got?" to Hardison [Van Gogh Job] & "where are we at?" to Sophie [The Wedding Job]
?? I love how the Leverage Writing Team is so detail-oriented.. the numbers on the supply van... a shout out from Chris?
Eliot and Hardison were in the zone this Ep with the tissue gag and Eliot's retriever reunions. 16% Drama 84% LOL
I don't think I've ever commented here before, but I just had to tell you how much I loved this episode. It was so incredibly compelling and well-done, and the actors (especially Aldis and Beth) did a fantastic job of playing two roles.
Sarah, that hit me after the episode too! Don't know if it was deliberate, but I like to think it was a sneaky little shoutout to an amazing writer. :-D
Chris wrote a real winner and you made it come to life! Applause all around. Nadine must have been super excited for this one too. The filming had to be different for the flashbacks. Did you do more with the up front camera settings or did post production do more? Sorry of too geekish for most...
You know, as as much as the Lt was apropos for the times, the sheriff raised more questions for me than he answered. While there were no doubt some decent and courageous folks who bucked the trends of the time on race, for one of them to be a sheriff and for him to take a stance so directly opposite to one of the town's most prominent citizens - kind of begged for more explanation.
QUESTIONS:
Was there more exposition on the sheriff that had to be cut for whatever reason, or are we just supposed to assume that he was one of those rare birds of the time?
Also, Dorothy's daughter refers to Cecilia as her aunt - since she was married to the sheriff, was he supposed to be Dorothy's brother then, and Alfred Ross's son? Or Dorothy's uncle and Alfred Ross's brother? Or am I flunking geneaology altogether?
Maybe it was just me, but did we see a bit of Indiana Jones in this episode, as well? "It belongs in a museum" along with Nate's hat, jacket and gun certainly made it seem that way....
@Oona--about Dorothy's daughter calling Cecilia as her aunt. Your idea could be right but unless John says otherwise I think it is likely one of those honorary things.
(My father's side of the family often gave those honorary titles to folks who they 'adopted' into the family. Believe me, it could get confusing when introducing a boyfriend to the family...'well, he's Uncle Joe but he's not really related')
Eliot's %LOL--just funny
And considering that this was supposedly a big payday for any retrieval specialist who found it...yeah, I'd certainly hope that Eliot would know the guys. Loved the Paul McCartney line to the second one.
This was a lovely episode and I really enjoyed it. Made me cry yet again. (Stop that!...no, just warn me a little)
Oh and about how they knew to look at Charlie...no doubt, members of the squad (?) were interviewed and someone...the guy given credit or perhaps Eliot's flashback character told the truth.
Question, please: Who played Dorothy's daughter? She looked really familiar.
It's old adage time:
-"Be careful what you wish for...."
-"If you can't say something nice...."
I had been hoping for an ep that didn't follow the usual pattern. You've given us one. Ummm...I loved everything that happened in the here and now. Danny Glover is wonderful. Eliot beating up guys with his organ...pipe...was great and nearly made up for the preceding bouts of fisticuffis interuptus. Loved germaphobic Hardison.
Pkate3 - I suppose she could be an "honorary" aunt, but that seems like an odd scriptwriting choice. If the majority of the audience understands an "aunt" to mean a certain thing, then why - without explanation- have her be something else entirely? She could have just said "you remind me of my mother's friend Cecilia."
@DaveW - when Owen turned out to be a bad guy, that felt like a very Indiana Jones twist. Seems like someone he knows always screws him in those films. Or maybe the sheriff's outfit had Indy on my brain, because that was very IJ.. . .
As far as Charlie still being in danger, I assumed that they had made whatever police or other security precautions needed to be made for him. I just figured there was no chance that they would just leave him unprotected.
Saw Mississippi Burning on Saturday, and now this episode.
I liked that Dorothy was so different from Parker. Dorothy: a sheltered daughter of a powerful man in the town, unwilling to leave because of being so sheltered. Parker: no family, no roots, willing to jump with out a net. How much fun did Beth have in playing such a different character?
I can see why Dorothy didn't run off with Charlie. A white woman and a black man would have had a really hard time of it back then, even in Canada.
Made me think of Mr. and Mrs. Loving, about the Virginia couple whose Supreme Court case made interracial marriages legal in the the US. And Mr. Hutton played Mr. Loving. Were there any discussions on set about Loving v. Virginia?
Thanks for showing the Lt flat out saying "The US govt will not award black people medals" and Charlie's reaction. It's one thing to read about it, it's another to see Charlie's reaction. How hard a scene was that for Christian and Aldis to play?
I liked that Charlie/Dorothy snogged and Cecilia gave Sheriff a kiss on the cheek. We had the Sophie/Nate reveal last season; this ep was all about Parker/Hardison.
I've been rewatching Season 3 with the commentary. Looking forward to the same with Season 4.
And thanks for doing these Q and A's.
word verification: sheryp, like a little kid trying to say sheriff.
Re: Charlie's post-job risk from the Billionaire's Club
I assumed that Nate's former colleague invented the Billionaire's Club threat to get Nate to help find the painting --- it was obvious in the last rink scene (perhaps just to me?) that he'd hired the retriever-thugs himself.
Oh, wow. I didn't catch that last night. That's awesome. :)
re: medals -- My grandfather served in the engineering corps in WWII and received two purple hearts (one of which we didn't even know about until we found it after he died). Learning that black soldiers of that era weren't even eligible for such acknowledgment for their service makes me very sad, and more than a little ashamed of our government's history. I guess "You learn and you con" doesn't just apply to the positive information. Reminds me of an old Greg Proops stand-up bit:
"Some of the things you were taught about American history in school weren't entirely true." "Really, Greg? Which ones?" "All of them."
This was a gorgeous episode. Prior to this episode, I spent the day, generally miserable and feeling sorry for myself. This ep was exactly what I needed, a reminder that not all dreams come true, but it is still possible to have a "remarkable life." I was moved to tears twice, once when Dorothy finds out Charlie left and the second during the train scene. Aldis and Beth did a fantastic job. iTunes is having a sale on the Leverage Season Pass (today is the last day) and, despite the lack of closed captions, I ended up buying it after seeing this episode. I am loving the way the show is balancing humor with heavy themes.
Questions
1. There have now been three big Leverage train scenes. Is it the same train track, just shot from different angles or spots along the track?
2. Since it was necessary to switch up the order of the episodes for broadcast, will the dvds reflect the original intended order? Also, while there wasn't any blatant continuity, I thought Nate was acting like much less of an ass and Eliot seemed less stressed. Coincidence or not?
3. Will you please give us a one word hint (that's NOT pretzels) for what awaits Parker & Hardison this season?
4. A general question for the general populace: I was able to get that Aldis and Beth were doing some type of accents. Was Aldis imitating Danny Glover or was he doing something regional specific?
PS When you see Danny Glover again, would you please, PLEASE tell him he was the best Philip Marlowe to ever grace the screen? And that's in a world including Bogart?
He was just so friggin' AMAZING in capturing the spirit of the character....
Had a thought about the Sheriff and his wife being able to help Charlie and still live in that town -- Dorothy remained behind. The Sheriff can say with some truth that he was keeping the gang from committing murder (still a crime) and yet kept Dorothy from leaving. So, Charlie was gone and would not be back (they could guess) and no one died. I don't know that Dorothy's father really WANTED to kill anyone -- he just didn't want his daughter to be with a black man, and in the US at that time with the miscegenation laws of the time, preventing that relationship was the big deal. Running Charlie out of town worked just as well as anything else with no messy details like a body.
Anyhow, that's my take on how someone like the Sheriff would present the situation and keep his life intact. Just upholding the law where courts decide things, not individuals. (Ironic, in a way)
In enjoyed the episode, but I couldn't help wondering: aren't they looking for looted Nazi art? Shouldn't they expect someone to surface with a claim of title? I mean, it was a "lost" Van Gogh, but SOMEone owned it, didn't they? Or did Van Gogh lose it?
Oh, and I understand perfectly that they couldn't give the black guy credit for the sniper kill. But why did they have to give anyone credit? Did they have to report it at all? (Yes, it's a petty question.)
I wanted to add my appreciation on the handling of the racism in this episode. You did a very good job of keeping it realistic without becoming heavy-handed. I'm curious about the line where the men attacking Charlie call him a "spook." I'm glad you chose to go with that rather unpleasant term although I'm sure some aren't. Was there discussion behind how far to take that?
1 A. Before being placed in the museum it was rescued from, where was the painting? Was it taken by Hitler's forces from a displaced family (most likely Jewish) or was it taken from a museum?
B. Either way, I'm not sure why it is being turned over to the Boston Museum of Fine Arts(?)... granted, they will most likely follow protocol when receiving a painting of questionable provenance but there are several organizations out there dedicated to reuniting looted WWII art with their rightful owners/descendants or the museum from which it was originally looted (prior to being removed to the Kaiser). I know you all do a lot of research, so I'm just wondering why you made the decisions you did (Full disclosure: I wrote my MA dissertation on the provenance of ancient works in US museums and BMFA has a history of naughtiness but I DO believe they are committed to being leaders in provenance research).
2. I am assuming that the insurance guy traces the painting from Becker to Charlie (I noted the "it seems" after the second viewing) by assuming since the painting was not logged anywhere that the person in charge of the supplies would have taken it?
Anyway, I am totally on the fun train and LOVED this episode. Thanks for everything!
Judging by the costuming during the scenes in France, it took place during mid to late fall 1944. Ironically, on Oct 13, 1944, Patton presented a silver star to Pvt. Ernest Jenkins - exactly what the Lt. swore would never happen
Why didn't Lt Fake!Eliot tell Charlie that he was lucky the report went in as was, since Charlie had taken a rifle that hadn't been issued to him? Couldn't Charlie have been in some trouble for that?
It was great to see a fresh new way to tell an interesting Leverage story. I'm not sure it all worked for me, but it's nice to see a beloved show take risks.
I have mixed feelings on this one. Some of the flashbacks really didn't captivate me at all, particularly the earlier ones - everyone looked great and the Dorothy Charlie story was very likeable, and speech patterns were good, but there was not that final click for me that really transported me.
I'm kind of meh on Parker/Hardison as a couple (although I love them individually), so it's a testament though to Chris Downey, Aldis and Beth and Danny Glover that even though I don't love P/H, I did get emotionally involved with Dorothy-Charlie, and that was a big plus.
Also thought the gas man-mold inspector bit was awesome, as was the way Nate figured everything out and then told Charlie the best possible version of events.
But overall this was a lot closer to the 10 Lil Grifters Job than, say, the premier or even Rashomon or Two Live Crew Job- a nice little confection but not a classic (at least for me).
Damn it, you made me cry! Again, major props to Nadine, as well as cast and crew! Beautifully acted and shot.
A truly great episode. For me, though, because I’m so used to the template and rhythm that’s been established for the majority of the episodes, it sometimes feels like something is “missing”. Not to say that you should never step outside of the box you’ve created and do something different… BUT this is only the second viewing, so I know the ep will continue to grow on me.
1. (And here I had a whole rant planned out in my head for TNT on switching up episodes!). What prompted you, as a writer/creator of the show, instead of the network, to change the order that two episodes air? 2. What were Sophie and Hardison’s aliases while they were at the bank? 3. Is this the first time since the Leverage team got together that Eliot has - aside from Moreau - run into “colleagues” while on a job? 4. Who was the most star struck on set by Danny Glover? What was it like to direct him?
Loved the episode. Main question I had was what on earth was that Windows based tablet/touch screen doing in the apartment? Would Hardison really allow something that wasn't running an OS that he designed?
1) You said in one of your answers to The Long Way Down Job questions "But we'll see Maggie again before the series --not season, series - finale." This makes it seem like this is not the last season of Leverage, something that I've worried about because you talk about how you have to end each season like it's your last in case it is. Does this mean that there is definately a season 5 or beyond? (please say yes!!!!) 2) Are you afraid of the "Moonlighting Curse" with Nate/Sophie and is that why the characters are holding back? Also, (although you probably won't tell me this) are they ever going to have a defined relationship? 3) Is it possible for Nate to ever be happy again? Because it seems like he gets more damaged as the show goes on...
What was behind the color choices? Dorothy was yellow/gold; the sheriff was brown; Cecelia was red. The soldier flashbacks were blue & white (almost black & white). Charlie was all beige in his shoeshine apron before he was in uniform.
@Oona I kinda thought maybe Dorothy married the sheriff's brother. That would make Cecilia her daughter's aunt. And that wouldn't be too far-fetched. They were friends so I could see Cecilia playing matchmaker to mend her friend's broken heart.
I totally loved the episode. It was a nice change of pace. Aldis and Beth rocked last night.
I loved loved loved this episode! For the record, I cried twice, and even once would be highly unusual. Danny Glover and Beth Riesgraf together were amazing together! And I loved that the 'story' characters that Beth and Aldis got to play really allowed them to show off their acting chops - that was SUCH a treat.
I, too, thought the racism aspect was very well handled, even though I found it wincing-painful at times to be reminded that such hardcore racism was common and pervasive (says one whose genetic family, spouse, and in-laws, can claim ancestry spanning four continents just in one's own generation, or five if you count South America as a separate continent, and less than half of those family members would be considered 'white').
Also, many kudos to Nadine Haders on the period costuming, I thought it was really spot-on.
I loved last nights world war 2 themed episode... but Nate's outfit gave me a thought...
Will we ever get to see a Wild West Leverage episode?
Preferably something told completely in flashback so that we'll be able to see nothing but the cast getting to play around in their "new parts" whereas in tonight's episode it was sort of half an half so we didn't get to do quite everything that I thought we could have if we devoted the entire episode to showing the 40's version of the cast.
That said I did love one "present" scene... Eilot's "on hold" "music" (a bit heavy on the percussion one might say) with the bank manager, Sophie and Hardison listening in...
Lovely episode, sir.Good mixture of pulp and sentiment. My question is this. In the establishing shots of Williamette, there was a very clear shot of the Ashland plaza. I'm kind of wondering how you guys got that shot. Did you get it or was it second unit? And if you did get it, did you have time to stop at the Standing Stone Brewery and enjoy one of our fine microbrews?
This one was just lovely, and bittersweet, and affirming. My favorite thing about it might have been the subtle, repeated physical contact between Parker and Hardison that they took for granted, with the unspoken comparison drawn in each flashback to the way Charlie and Dorothy had to refrain from being too close. Heartbreaking but, again, affirming.
On an unrelated note, I think Nate's got more potential than we give him credit for. He may not believe in his own happy ending, but he doesn't begrudge other people theirs.
If there is such a thing as cinematic poetry, this episode was it. The story was so well-woven and the acting so seamless that the episode just stands on its own. The subtlety with which every single one of the actors infused the "new" characters with the threads of the existing ones should remind us all that this cast is a group of first-rate actors. The costuming, lighting, direction and writing was just pitch-perfect. Also there is no way to describe Danny Glover other than sublime. I am not usually inspired to pass out such lavish praise (I'm one of those hard, logical scientist types) but I'm afraid I have been pressed into it. This episode actually made me cry.
Where were the 1940s exteriors filmed? We were thinking maybe Silverton or St. Paul but in any case, great location shots.
Related, why use a fictional town in Oregon rather than the real thing? After all, you set the show in "Boston", not "Massachusetts Baytown" or something like that.
I know Charlie had been out of Oregon for a long time, but why donate the painting to the Boston Art Museum? Why not the Portland Art Museum and keep it local?
Is Parker starting to soften up? She seems way more capable of emotion this season than in the past.
Another great episode. I do, however, have a quibble...I'm prepared to deal with an 8th grade lunchroom level romance (you're the writers. You get to do that. I get to watch. Thanks.)
But no serious, highly skilled hacker uses Windows branded technology. Maybe a box they've loaded with a linux install as the default system...but Windows?
Way too easy to be hacked, even if you keep it up to date and run every security device you can find.
Even when you're running your own network, the risk is too high.
To hack into multiple systems run by multiple agencies of multiple governments at superuser or equivalent level you need to be able to switch among OSs -- some of that stuff goes back pre-internet (Although if you buy me a drink, I can tell you some really funny stories -- no, wait, how would I know that? Pretend I didn't say anything.) Anyway, the Windows logos currently spewed all over your tech is a serious credibility problem. Actually, it puts Hardison in the "laughable" category.
"84% LOL" - That had me cracking up. Who was responsible for that masterpiece of cinematic dialogue? Also Kane as a "Lucas"? I just can't see it. However Marcus Dupree was an inspired choice. My question: What was with the constant blowing of the nose? Did Aldis have a cold?
Loved this one. Beautiful music in this ep! Especially loved the theme for Dorothy Ross' character both when it was played on the Wurlitzer and when it was background music
So great!!. Amazing production, direction, script, costumer, background, colors filters andmimpressive the cast... Aldis and Beth left me without words. History with plasticity and poetry... Dorothy's sacrifice... heartbreaking. A movie, and a great movie in just 45 minutes.
Ok, I'm spanish, and my english isn't the best, but I try, sorry any mistake.
The painting inside the organ was a great point.
1) Eliot playing with the PC screen and Nat's reaction was hilarious, Who have the idea? Eliot scenes, good counterpoint.
2) Dorothy with the cape seemed like Little Yellow Riding Hood P:P, but good plasticity. Did you realize about this resemblance?
3) A nice and beautiful history, nice end. But I think that would have been nice if Hardison and Sophie had found in them safe-deposit box her letters that her daughter said she wrote. Then they give ger letters to Charlie, and he open them when Parker and Hardison leave the room, just open without reading in the episode. And when Nate tell her life after Charlie and there are her flashback, would have been nice if she had appeared writing the letters with melancholy in her old desk. Good point the old desk and the key hide there. What do you think about? Did you think it when you wrote but didn't work?... where are the letters?
4) She had 70.000 dollars, 70.000!... and the daughter didn't know anything??... Ok, she could hide the key while her father or husband were alive and while she was hoping, but when she became older, or in her testament... don't tell anything about the money, did she not leave it to her at legacy?.. It's money, and It's her mother... but OK, it would remove the romanticism. And the painting... she leave the painting without vigilance when she dies... she could say it to her daughter to continue her promise... because someone could demolish the Roller Palace or anything. but OK, it would remove the romanticism. All 4 point are just thoughts... and the story is better than if she told her daughter.
And... there are a question in the air, and is good that stay in the air... she was leal... we know...and her daughter said that she wrote with melancholy letters to anyone who wanted listening, but she was a wife in love with her husband or she marry because was the only way to a woman in 1942... her husband knew her love story or realize about her melancholy... her daughter seems like didn't know anything... but she knew something was.
3. Is this the first time since the Leverage team got together that Eliot has - aside from Moreau - run into “colleagues” while on a job?
I'm not Rogers, but I personally remember the Butcher of Kiev that appeared in The Wedding Job. I suspect that he was never technically a "colleague" instead of an antagonist, but he was a figure from Eliot's past that he dealt with in a "professional" sense. We got to see Gutman in The Roshaman Job but that was in flashback so I'm assuming it doesn't count.
D'oh! I just remembered Eliot's friend the General from the San Lorenzo Job. I'd say he definitely qualifies.
There may be others, but and none of these examples are fellow "retrieval" experts, but Eliot's rep before he teamed up with the Leverage crew was that he always worked alone, as was Parker's and Hardison's.
Great ep overall. I liked the attempt to do something different and using the characters in the flashbacks. And I agree that Aldis was really channeling Danny Glover in his scenes. A. lot. OK, on to the list.
1) You said earlier this year that you experienced evil burnout from writing Leverage stories. Was this episode a reaction to that, or was it a particular idea a writer had you had hoped to do all along? Would like to hear the history.
2) Aldis' french WAS amazing. Does he speak it or did he learn it for the ep?
3) Beth was, quite simply, stunning in this episode all around. Parker glowed with this new found innocence. I know it won't lost and she hasn't changed fundamentally. It was just cool for her to shine out new facets so brilliantly, and sell it so well. Your thoughts?
4) Someone asked this I think, but Dorothy/Parker an homage? If so, YOU ARE SO COOL.
5) Have we seen Owen before? Or is the actor just familiar to me? and will we see him again? You said there are going to be consequences. Nate just f**d with the man's livelihood, as they say in certain quarters.
6) And how did Owen afford all that muscle that Eliot knew? $5M was a hefty payday, how did he get all that scratch? It didn't seem clear that Nate was aware Owen was dirty, but was he? Aware?
6) Thanks for doing Vincent. Is there an incident involving a lost Van Gogh, or is this just representative of the "big art heist prize" people always imagine is out there? Ignorant of this myself.
7) Last one, promise. Will you ever do a story based on the Hermitage Museum scandal that was featured in the Art of the Heist documentary, where a curator died mysteriously and a bunch of stolen pieces mysteriously returned back to the Museum? I realize shooting at the Hermitage probably isn't um, you know, in the budget, but the logistics of that place AND the unbelievably stupid security fascinated me. Seemed ripe for parody at the very least.
Thanks for doing what y'all do, as we say in the good state of North Carolina.
When the bank manager called Eliot to confirm Sophie and Hardison's visit, Eliot hesitated before saying his name was Marcus Dupree. This seems to be before he notices that man that owes him 27k (which could distract him), so thinking that I was missing a joke, I googled the name.
The only Marcus Dupree I found was a football player. Am I missing something or just staring too hard at Christian on the screen?
I got some serious giggles over "Sheriff Nate" in the flashbacks. How did you decide who got assigned what flashback character (save for Parker & Hardison... that needs no explanation)?
This is, by far, my favorite episode. I don't think you've written one that's tugged on the heartstrings or played with our emotions as much as this one did. The story was so sad, but beautiful & poingnant. And the last thing Danny Glover's character says to Parker, well, is basically the same thing every single Leverage fan has been thinking since the Pilot. :)
Nothing to ask, just wanted to give a ginormous round of applause for EVERYBODY, and I figured it wouldn't really go through my tv screen. 'Course for Beth, Aldis, Tim, Gina and Christian for that amazing acting, to y'all writers for the tear-jerker-ness of that star-cross lovers story, for the scenery (that rink makes me want to break out my skates right now) and good god, the costumes. Gorgeous.
@Coriferne You're assuming Dorothy knew she was going to die. Her cause of death, at least to my recollection, was never stated. For all we know, she got into a car accident or had a heart attack. Another possibility is that she succumbed to Alzheimer's and didn't remember either the painting or the safety deposit box. Any moments of lucidity coupled with possible revelations could've been dismissed by her family since she never mentioned it before.
Just wanted to sat Congrats to the cast and crew for a wonderful episode and I am so glad that it reflects in the ratings. How wonderful is it to have achieved such high ratings in your fourth season? lol.
I don't really have much in the way of questions, but I have been wondering, how long have the writers been waiting for an opportunity to have Aldis speak french?
Can you make it so Hardison knows french too? Because Aldis's french was spot on and I think I may have fallen a little bit in love with him at that moments.
Oh man...Oaks Park. One of your previous blog entries reminded me of one of the times I went there as a kid. It was your blog entry on how roller coasters terrify you. Back when I was a kid, there was a roller coaster there called the Might Mouse. It had been around since my grandma was a kid and rode on it. It was made of wood and you could see the whole thing shake while cars went around the track. Actually being in one of the cars was worse because you could hear the structure groan while you rattle around it. It had these hairpin turns you were never quite sure the car was going to make it around. I only rode it only once and it was the first time I ever did the "Pony Clown Scream". They tore it down 10 years ago and built a new roller coaster when they finally tired of replacing broken, rotten boards. Thanks for dredging up that nicely repressed memory John.
What neighborhood or town stood in for "Willamette City?"
(Oh, now I feel a bit silly. There actually IS a Willamette City, in the sticks SE of Salem. I've been living in Oregon for nine years and hadn't heard of it.)
I know its not really relevant to this episode, but just something that's been bugging me.
As a waitress I know resturaunts and even banquet service is tight knit, people would notice one or two people not in proper uniform, and not known. (Uniforms are rather specific to resturaunts, and people notice my shirt because it isn't plain black but textured black) there's a lot of standing around in service industry, people would notice Parker when ever she's in waitress garb.
Did you have a consultant who said they get away with this? I mean I suppose its possible for a short period of time, but managers don't put lots of booze in just anyone's hand!
after the episode where Christian sings, this is my absolute favorite!! It was sweet and it was full of so much emotion - thanks for letting Beth stretch a bit!
1) Had Danny Glover already agreed to do a role this season and this one was picked or did he agree because after reading the script?
2) Was there actually a missing Van Gogh from the war? Is that part true?
3) Is the team fully aware of the relationship between Parker and Hardison now? Are they okay with it? Nate is the only one I think might disapprove.
4) Interracial relationships were unacceptable of during the 40s but do you feel the Parker and Hardison is really that big of a deal in current times? Since Parker is so unaware of what social rules are most of the times, was she even aware it might still be controversial? (Not that I think she'd care but just wondering)
5) The treasure hunters that Eliot kept running into - were they employed by Nate's friend or just independents looking for he painting because they heard about it too?
I loved this episode. So much heart and emotion in it. I smiled cheered and cried so much in that hour! And the hours I've watched it repeatedly (about 7 times now :P) Its easily my favorite.
Aldis and Beth were brilliant in this. Absolutely amazing and Emmy worthy performances(if Emmys were given to shows I actually watch lol) Although this type of episode is a departure from the 'norm' on Leverage, I think it was executed well so that it wasn't cheesy or overdone.
I love the way you're slipping in online terms like squee last week and LOL this ep!
To anonymous who asked: "84% LOL" - That had me cracking up. Who was responsible for that masterpiece of cinematic dialogue? Also Kane as a "Lucas"? I just can't see it. However Marcus Dupree was an inspired choice. My question: What was with the constant blowing of the nose? Did Aldis have a cold?
Hardison was allergic to dust. He kept complaining about the dust and his allergies. Which I believe he mentioned last episode when they went to the records room too.
One more thing - a HUGE shoutout to Nadine Haders on this episode. Beautiful costuming!!! And the set designers too. Very realistic.
I had a difficult time watching the flashback scene where the lieutenant tells Charlie the he will not be getting credit because he's a negro! Did Chris have to have a conversation with Aldis about it?
Hey John, I love your show. Starting now, I'm going to try to actually partake in the Q/A rather than just read them after the fact.
I've got a question and I hope it doesn't sound critical/bitchy/internetty because that is not the spirit in which it is asked. At any rate, between the let's have the actors play other characters episode and the whodunnit episode, there hasn't been that much con and heist stuff so far this season. Are you guys running out of con and heist material, or are you getting bored with the formula, or is it just a quirk of the schedule that we've gotten two oddball episodes so early into the season?
Thanks for The Van Gogh Job. I loved it! Very Woody Allen ala "Midnight in Paris." Cathartic to feel what people had to experience not that long ago, even as they were fighting for our freedom in WWII. Beautiful rink and that fairytale yellow riding hood? Priceless! Aldis/Alec & Beth/Parker are a beautiful couple. Well done Mr. Glover.
I'm visiting Portland, and we were cycling on the Springwater Corridor, and I didn't know the Oaks Roller Rink was near there. Basically I saw it, went through a total OMG moment, dragged my sister down the slope, scared the lady at the counter, took a picture, ran out ,jumped gate and went back to my bike. It made me immensely happy to know I stood in the same building the Leverage Cast and Crew were in just a few weeks earlier....Thank you
Oh, and sorry for adding to the giant pile of comments you have to go through, but I really wanted to share =)
Let me just add my "Awwwwww!" to the pile of compliments. The episode was lovely. How did you all decide what the painting should be? Can we now look forward to spotting the lost Van Gogh in various storage rooms, along side the Klimt and the Science-ical props?
My 2 cents on the aunt discussion: I read it as the English war bride married the sheriff and became Dorothy's aunt because the sheriff was a sibling of one of Dorothy's parents.
That would make Sophie's war bride character the great-aunt of Dorothy's daughter. Since the aunt lived long enough to be a part of her grand-niece's life, Dorothy's daughter refers to her in affectionate short-hand as 'my aunt.'
Genealogically speaking, it also works if the sheriff is Dorothy's older brother. His wife becomes the aunt of Dorothy's daughter. But I think if that were true, the sheriff would have been WAY more protective of Dorothy...
Seeing the cast in similar-but-different roles was jarring at first (kind of like how seeing Gina Bellman play someone sane after Coupling took me a while to get used to), but everyone really hit it out of the park. The Lt was fantastic, Cecilia seamless... But the parts that really hit home were Dorothy at train and Charlie when he took the painting and confronted Mr. Ross in the woods. You could literally see the moment when he finally gets fed up with all the racism and snaps, and it was riveting to watch. Please pass that on to Mr. Hodge.
Charlie's mention of the Wurlitzer at the beginning of the episode was presumably meant to be a clue as to the hiding place. When do you decide to put in clues like that? Are they considered necessary when writing a certain type of mystery or story for the screen?
Is it just me, or does Aldis just keep getting more and more amazing each season?
Where did the inspiration for this episode come from? I feel a really good story there. Really good story about a really good story. Maybe because of a really good story.
Wow...just so many way awesome things in this ep. You made me cry. There's no crying in Leverage. Eliot and the gas company jargon: "...LOL." I love it. That was hysterical. And Sheriff Nate just made my day. A couple questions: 1. As many people above have asked, would Hardison really be running a computer with an OS he hadn't designed? Windows is just too hackable.
2. Eliot seems to know a lot of these hitter people by name. Will we get to see even more of the evil evil guys he knows cause evilness?
3. As many people have also asked, I noted that Gina especially looked pretty comfortable on that organ. How many of the actors that "played" the organ in the ep were actually playing?
4. Did the cast, Beth and Aldis especially, enjoy getting to play a 40's version of their character?
Also, my thoughts on the whole "aunt Cecilia" thing: I believe the sheriff was Alfred Ross's brother, and Dorothy's uncle. For those who were confused by Dorothy's daughter referring to her as aunt Cecilia, I call my great-aunts "Aunt Jill," "Aunt Marie," etc. So it could be like that, I guess.
This was an incredible ep, good job everybody! I wanna see more Sophie, but you're doing great. Season 4 is looking awesome. And I just heard about Season 5...congrats!
Hi there. It's me again (sorry!). Something else I wondered about: At the beginning, when the bad guy was pretending to be a cop, Charlie called him on his fake badge. Hardison did this as well, in the Double Blind Job. Are fake badges just that easy to spot in general, or does the Leverage team (and Charlie) have a fake-badge-spotting superpower? Or, were Charlie and/or Hardison bluffing because they guessed the FBI/cop was a fake?
I also wanted to extend a thank you for this episode, perhaps for slightly different reasons.
Being an amateur researcher of all things WWII, I was particularly interested in the filming of the scene between Eliot and Hardison's characters, regarding the medal, who would receive it, and why.
I feel the comments represented the era and the attitudes of the time very well, without dwelling on the issue, and keeping the conversation short and simple. I guess you could say it had that matter of fact style.
I shared this episode with my uncles and they agreed your scripting was done well by keeping on point and moving on, which was indeed a valued behavior in a time of war.
My question though, is completely off topic. Do you still use one of those Red One cameras when filming the episodes? Do you have more than one camera? Or is the filming and the schedule centered around having only one camera? Just curious.
Hardison plays the race card or generally worries about his race a lot (Mile High, First David, Three Days of Hunter, Gone Fishin, etc.) and I was hoping for an episode that actually dealt with racism. I agree with those who said that it was well handled here, but I was wondering: are they ever going to have to deal with modern-day racism against Black people?
I know it's probably too late to expect an answer here, but I have a question about the following exchange:
Eliot: What, man? He's telling me to learn technical stuff all the time.
Nate: Well, that'll never happen.
I wasn't really sure what you were getting at, here. Is this meant to come off as everyone underestimating Eliot's skill? Because we have seen that Eliot is very capable with computers; he remotely disabled Manticore from a computer that doesn't even speak the same language! (I'm assuming Manticore was running on a modern day machine, because Moore's Law, etc.) And sure, Hardison told him how to do it, but if someone's actually tech challenged, telling them how to do it beforehand would not suffice.
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Already my favorite episode...sight unseen!!! (What? I'm a skater, quads only, though, thanks) With the Rose City Rollers around, have you ever thought of doing something with a corrupt derby official/league/team/player/something? Would LOVE to see Parker (blocker) and Sophie (jammer) on wheels.
Is it easier to write a story based on historical events having so many parameters predetermined, or does the amount of research necessary draw it out?
Besides Oaks Park Roller Rink, can you share some of the other shooting locations for this episode?
This isn't a question about tonight's episode, but a thank you to all those responsible for Leverage. Thanks to you, I saw through the Jehovah's Witness ladies who came to my house today. The lady tried to tell me she remembered me from some other time she'd come to my house uninvited and first said, "You have two children, right?" (She must have seen my niece's battery operated Barbie Jeep sitting out.) I said no and then she said, "Dogs. You have two dogs." She was right about that, but not because she remembered me. She saw them in the window when they were barking at her.
And then she did that 'extend the right hand' thing that Sophie did in last season's finale and shook my hand. After that she must have run out of all of her conning tricks, because she fell back on the tired, old, "You look great" compliment that isn't really a compliment.
Also, when Sophie told Hardison that grifters make their own entrances, she wasn't kidding. I have a no trespassing sign on my driveway and the lady said she saw it too late to find a way to turn around so she had to drive all the way to the house. Now once she got there, she didn't turn around and leave as my sign suggested, no she got out of the car and proceeded to tell me about their big convention.
You folks at Leverage are doing a tremendous public service by educating us about all of these tactics. Thanks a bunch!
How did you get Danny Glover to do the show?
What was it like to direct Danny Glover? 2. How did Aldis and Christian respond to working with him since they call themselves Riggs and Murtaugh all the time?
Did the roller rink come from Chris or was that born from the knowledge that Oaks Park was a possible location?
I love it - Eliot calls another, what I assume to be, "retreival expert" by name!
wv: shemag - opposite of a hemag
Oh, Elliot... it's %LEL, not %LOL...unless it's a nitrous oxide detector!
Awesome using our crew for the historical flashbacks!
(Though it seems unfair to cast a 65-year-old as WWII vet!)
So far liking it. Question, of course you shoot in Oregon; and Willamette city supports being in Oregon, yet it obviously shouldn't be, or in Leverge verse did the sundowner laws get revoked in Oregon 30 years earlier? (for those who don't know until after world war 2 there were very vile laws preventing African Americans being in Oregon during the day, with a war time exception for the federal district enclave in Northern Portland where liberty ships were being built). Its a sad part of state history.
Did uSoft pay for the product placement?
Bravo for not having Eliot's flashback character be out of place in rewarding Charlie.
I know you have said you guys don't write to the fans (requests), but was the idea for old 'associates' and 'co-workers' of Eliot's showing up an idea you had recently or has it been on the writer's wall for awhile? I really enjoyed that part.
A general question I've been thinking about, what do you think will be the 'fan favorite' ep this season? Not sure what season 1 was, but season 2 seemed to be the two live crew job, and season 3 was the rashomon job, so I was just wondering what you expect season 4's favorite to be?
Oh man, this is SO sad.
But I'm totally in love with '40s Hardison and Parker. (And I love that '40s Nate came through for them!)
Oh, Dorothy, how could you? :-(
No question. You guys -- writers, actors, director, costumer, every single one of you -- broke my widdle heart and put it together again. It's not often you write straight for the heart like that, but dammit, you did.
Also, pipe organ fu and barbie bat fu. Much thrashing.
This show is now giving my life long love for the original Star Trek a run.
Thank you, sir.
Damn, Rogers.
There's never been a question since I started watching Leverage that it's my favorite show of all times.
(Yeah I watch Mad Men, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead and a few others of the "critically acclaimed", so I feel I have a little perspective.)
But this season so far is beyond remarkable.
Thanks guys!
(PS...Downey kicks ass!)
(PPS...forgot to add the first time...nice directing! XD)
I love how "flashback" Nate, Sophie and Eliot all recalled their present day characters - Nate's the "this is my town" guy fighting the righteous fight, Eliot's the grim realist and Sophie's the romantic adventurer. Nice way to incorporate those three into the past action.
Danny Glover was superb, and the goodbye scene cutting to him talking about the painting and not getting to see Dorothy again was really excellent.
Also loved that the painting was in one of the organ pipes, that Eliot ran into some other retrieval specialists and that Owen ended up being the bad guy - a nice pulpy twist.
But how is it that Cecilia and the sheriff could still live in that town after the sheriff helped Charlie?
Nice work by everyone involved.
Nice episode, a worthy departure from the series format. (I'll resist the temptation to say "A very special Leverage"...) It threw me, at first, to see Aldis/Hardison playing a young Danny Glover, and his accent wasn't the most consistent, but he - and Beth - won me over. Great job!
One quick question: What was with the shot immediately after the "Welcome to Willemette City"? It looked like a license plate on the rear of a truck was digitally removed, but somewhat unsteadily. Just curious.
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That was sweet.
D'awwwww. So sweet. :)
Hats for everyone! Nice job by the cast all playing multiple characters in multiple time frames.
Question: Beth, Gina, and Tim all "played" the pipe organ in the episode. How many of them (if any) actually played it?
Hahaha, I'm glad I'm not the only person who saw the location and thought, "Oh man, we need a roller derby episode!!"
I think Parker would jam, though. She's tiny and acrobatic!
This was a beautiful, poignant story.
I thought the racism was handled perfectly from both the historic (if sixty-odd years ago can be called historic) and modern viewpoints. Aldis nailed Mr. Glover's mannerisms as far as I'm concerned---especially his reaction after the Lt. laid it out for him. My God, if there was any question that the man can act, that scene alone answered it.
This episode ended perfectly, but I still wish that Charlie and Dorothy could have met again . . . I know, but I do.
Aside from this, I loved Hardison and Sophie's reactions to Eliot's fight. And Dorothy/Parker (Hey-O!) not being able to get through a door? Excellent!
I also found it interesting that Nate picked up on the mutation of his former colleague's quest to find the painting. Would this be the ostinato o' the season?
Actual Question: How many "Willamette, Dammit" tee-shirts went home with the cast and crew?
I'm confused about something. If Lawson wasn't credited with killing the sniper, how did the modern treasure hunters connect him to the painting? Considering the way black men were disregarded, why would they have even looked at him for having the painting? How difficult was it for Aldis to do this role? He was amazing, and the scene with Kane discussing the medal was very well executed.
My question –
What is it with y'all making me teary this season? There's no crying in Leverage, dammit!
Seriously, I loved the ep. Danny Glover was his usual fantastic self, and the story was lovely. As much as I love the Leverage "spectacle," I'm really enjoying these smaller (if a costume piece can be called "small") character-driven stories.
Aldis and Beth really rocked it tonight (I completely bought them as Charlie and Dorothy), and Nate as a gun-totin' sheriff was fun. And only Eliot could turn a pipe organ into a weapon. ;)
My only real question at this point (apart from the crying thing) is, would Charlie, as an African-American, have served with white soldiers, even as a supply truck driver? I thought the military was pretty rigidly segregated until Truman ordered it desegregated. (And I echo Video Beagle on the kudos for not having Eliot's lieutenant be "ahead of his time" in his treatment of Charlie.)
Oh, and huge props to Nadine Haders for the costumes! The '40s clothes were gorgeous!
... Damn, this ep actually made me cry. I do not cry easily.
(My husband died suddenly when I was in my early 20s, so the whole lost young love thing and never seeing each other again hits close to home.)
I thought Beth and Aldis in particular knocked it out of the park in this, too.
Might be my favorite episode of Leverage EVER, even if it may not end up being my most watched, for obvious reasons.
No real questions - though I will add to the other folks saying it's nice to see things like Eliot running into other retrieval specialists that he's known before. (Mold inspector!)
"What are your plans with my daughter?" Please tell me there's some outtake of Aldis coming up with some smart-ass answer for this. Please. Just to break the tension on set.
@Sarah W - I missed the Dorothy/Parker thing. Good catch!
Well, that was lovely. Was it fun to shoot in black & white? Nice use of color when he unrolled the painting in the tent.
The very ending didn't quite do it for me. Charlie's in just as much danger as ever with the painting found until he turns it over to someone else, so to have them just walk away at the end seemed somewhat unfinished. Staging the final scene at a museum unveiling of their latest acquisition would have felt better.
Re: segregation of the army: The soldiers we saw Charlie with would not have been from his unit; he could have been detached to them for a specific mission that required logistical support.
I skate there! squee.
Sweet Stuff.
Oh my, 1940's Beth gives me Feelings. Um. What an episode, obviously going to be on the top of fan lists.
I've got a guess on Briddie's question: Someone in the unit blabbed about Charlie or wrote a diary or something, and it got discovered when billionaires started paying people to investigate.
@ChelseaNH, re: the ending – Hubby also wondered if Charlie wouldn't still be in danger.
My thinking is that the inevitable media storm that would surround the finding of a "lost" Van Gogh might take some of the heat off. The Billionaire's Club can wait until it gets to Boston and pay to have it stolen from the museum. ;)
And the Army thing totally makes sense. Thanks.
So "The Billionaire's Club"....
Is this "The Billionaire's Club™" or just "a billionaire's club".
Is this something encountered before? Do they have a skull shaped headquarters in a swamp?
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Are "Retrievers" by and large not dangerous/killers? (Eliot, of course, was a former paid killer for a crime lord before he got into Retrieval.)
I ask because a bunch of pseudo Eliots coming after the "client" would seem to me to be a notably dangerous thing, but he didn't throw the whinefest he's been having all this season when he hasn't had time to plan for a mission.
Eliot playing w/ Hardison’s head is hilarious!
It looks like the hospital is located in St. Johns, Oregon.
Aldis & Beth look absolutely handsome & stunning in this episode! Plus they look great together.
Nice shots of Aldis alone & Beth skating at the rink.
Nice color choice of film filter for the flashback story.
Aldis & Beth's emotional scenes were completely phenomenal.
Nate’s co-workers are finding him, is this gonna be a problem?
Also Eliot coming across two former co-workers, how does this complicate matters?
How did you find the supply truck?
Beautifully acted and directed episode. I have one worry. I love the Parker/Hardison romance, but please don't NORMALize Parker to make it happen.
Thank you.
(I love your DND comic too.)
Beautiful episode. It was really quite sad, but I enjoyed it a lot.It is so unfair that just having a different skin colour meant you couldn't have so much back then. I'm glad that's not the case anymore.
It was so strange seeing Beth play someone besides Parker. She was wonderful. Aldis was amazing, I though he portrayed the character's desperation, and need to prove himself perfectly.
I loved the scene changes, everything moved along very smoothly. Eliot running into people he knew was hilarious, especially the 'mold inspector'. I loved the bit where Sophie and Hardison can hear the fight.And Eliot's musical showdown, awesomeness!
So congratulations on another wonderful episode! And onto my questions!
1. How many takes did you do of the kiss?
2. Do they really call grenades pineapples?
3. How many people know about the team's headquarters?
Oaks Park Roller Rink in all its glory - thanks for that. So beautiful.
I've never commented on this blog before, but I wanted to thank you for such a lovely episode of television.
Only one question: did Aldis spend any time with Mr. Glover in order to pick up his speech patterns and mannerisms? I became so invested in the young Charlie character that it was almost jarring to cut back to Hardison. Kudos to Aldis and Beth.
Pardon my premature speculation [see comment 2]... Sophie's line in the end cleared up any doubt I had of historical validity... and "it was the best story" nuff said.
Charlie gets credit for taking the painting but not for killing the sniper :|
?? Sheriff Nate Magically appears to help Charlie at the rink [jumped out of the Organ box or slipped around the bad guy when we weren't looking?]I'm going with jumping the wall, I've seen Hutton jump on a countertop!
Eliot is adapting to Grifting much better, loved his interpretation [Eliot, You can be my Gas Man anytime...]
Some beautifully genius scene transitions... two that stand out "Eiffel Tower" and "Parker...great job, keep it up"
It seems Charlie recalls Dorothy as Parker and Parker listens and imagines Hardison as Charlie... loved the comparison, esp in the end "don't waste time"
Amazing how you manage to give your fans what they want [Aldis/Beth] without actually giving them what they ask for [Hardison/Parker] ...yet...
Love the "Leslie Nielsen" bits with Nate "what do you got?" to Hardison [Van Gogh Job] & "where are we at?" to Sophie [The Wedding Job]
?? I love how the Leverage Writing Team is so detail-oriented.. the numbers on the supply van... a shout out from Chris?
Eliot and Hardison were in the zone this Ep with the tissue gag and Eliot's retriever reunions.
16% Drama
84% LOL
I don't think I've ever commented here before, but I just had to tell you how much I loved this episode. It was so incredibly compelling and well-done, and the actors (especially Aldis and Beth) did a fantastic job of playing two roles.
I'm a wreck! What a lovely episode, and sterling direction, sir!
Did you consider converting the flashback scenes to black-and-white? They had such a cinematic feeling, I almost saw them that way.
Along with all the other kudos lavished, a new batch must go to Andy K, for his beautifully toned, very cinematic score.
The ending made me think of the "cinder in your eye" scene at the end of Brief Encounter. So lovely, and so sad.
@SarahW:
"And Dorothy/Parker (Hey-O!)"
Sarah, that hit me after the episode too! Don't know if it was deliberate, but I like to think it was a sneaky little shoutout to an amazing writer. :-D
Chris wrote a real winner and you made it come to life! Applause all around. Nadine must have been super excited for this one too.
The filming had to be different for the flashbacks. Did you do more with the up front camera settings or did post production do more?
Sorry of too geekish for most...
You know, as as much as the Lt was apropos for the times, the sheriff raised more questions for me than he answered. While there were no doubt some decent and courageous folks who bucked the trends of the time on race, for one of them to be a sheriff and for him to take a stance so directly opposite to one of the town's most prominent citizens - kind of begged for more explanation.
QUESTIONS:
Was there more exposition on the sheriff that had to be cut for whatever reason, or are we just supposed to assume that he was one of those rare birds of the time?
Also, Dorothy's daughter refers to Cecilia as her aunt - since she was married to the sheriff, was he supposed to be Dorothy's brother then, and Alfred Ross's son? Or Dorothy's uncle and Alfred Ross's brother? Or am I flunking geneaology altogether?
...and this week's episode was brought to audiences worldwide courtesy of Judith Krantz.
Big squee to Danny Glover, though.
Icanhas competence porn next time instead? Pretty please?
Word verification: pioci. Like pazzi, but tiny and cute.
Maybe it was just me, but did we see a bit of Indiana Jones in this episode, as well? "It belongs in a museum" along with Nate's hat, jacket and gun certainly made it seem that way....
@Oona--about Dorothy's daughter calling Cecilia as her aunt. Your idea could be right but unless John says otherwise I think it is likely one of those honorary things.
(My father's side of the family often gave those honorary titles to folks who they 'adopted' into the family. Believe me, it could get confusing when introducing a boyfriend to the family...'well, he's Uncle Joe but he's not really related')
Eliot's %LOL--just funny
And considering that this was supposedly a big payday for any retrieval specialist who found it...yeah, I'd certainly hope that Eliot would know the guys. Loved the Paul McCartney line to the second one.
This was a lovely episode and I really enjoyed it. Made me cry yet again. (Stop that!...no, just warn me a little)
Oh and about how they knew to look at Charlie...no doubt, members of the squad (?) were interviewed and someone...the guy given credit or perhaps Eliot's flashback character told the truth.
Question, please: Who played Dorothy's daughter? She looked really familiar.
It's old adage time:
-"Be careful what you wish for...."
-"If you can't say something nice...."
I had been hoping for an ep that didn't follow the usual pattern. You've given us one. Ummm...I loved everything that happened in the here and now. Danny Glover is wonderful. Eliot beating up guys with his organ...pipe...was great and nearly made up for the preceding bouts of fisticuffis interuptus. Loved germaphobic Hardison.
Thanks,as always.
Pkate3 - I suppose she could be an "honorary" aunt, but that seems like an odd scriptwriting choice. If the majority of the audience understands an "aunt" to mean a certain thing, then why - without explanation- have her be something else entirely? She could have just said "you remind me of my mother's friend Cecilia."
@DaveW - when Owen turned out to be a bad guy, that felt like a very Indiana Jones twist. Seems like someone he knows always screws him in those films. Or maybe the sheriff's outfit had Indy on my brain, because that was very IJ.. . .
As far as Charlie still being in danger, I assumed that they had made whatever police or other security precautions needed to be made for him. I just figured there was no chance that they would just leave him unprotected.
Saw Mississippi Burning on Saturday, and now this episode.
I liked that Dorothy was so different from Parker. Dorothy: a sheltered daughter of a powerful man in the town, unwilling to leave because of being so sheltered. Parker: no family, no roots, willing to jump with out a net. How much fun did Beth have in playing such a different character?
I can see why Dorothy didn't run off with Charlie. A white woman and a black man would have had a really hard time of it back then, even in Canada.
Made me think of Mr. and Mrs. Loving, about the Virginia couple whose Supreme Court case made interracial marriages legal in the the US. And Mr. Hutton played Mr. Loving. Were there any discussions on set about Loving v. Virginia?
Thanks for showing the Lt flat out saying "The US govt will not award black people medals" and Charlie's reaction. It's one thing to read about it, it's another to see Charlie's reaction. How hard a scene was that for Christian and Aldis to play?
I liked that Charlie/Dorothy snogged and Cecilia gave Sheriff a kiss on the cheek. We had the Sophie/Nate reveal last season; this ep was all about Parker/Hardison.
I've been rewatching Season 3 with the commentary. Looking forward to the same with Season 4.
And thanks for doing these Q and A's.
word verification: sheryp, like a little kid trying to say sheriff.
Re: Charlie's post-job risk from the Billionaire's Club
I assumed that Nate's former colleague invented the Billionaire's Club threat to get Nate to help find the painting --- it was obvious in the last rink scene (perhaps just to me?) that he'd hired the retriever-thugs himself.
@Sarah W.: "Dorothy/Parker (Hey-O!)... "
Oh, wow. I didn't catch that last night. That's awesome. :)
re: medals -- My grandfather served in the engineering corps in WWII and received two purple hearts (one of which we didn't even know about until we found it after he died). Learning that black soldiers of that era weren't even eligible for such acknowledgment for their service makes me very sad, and more than a little ashamed of our government's history. I guess "You learn and you con" doesn't just apply to the positive information. Reminds me of an old Greg Proops stand-up bit:
"Some of the things you were taught about American history in school weren't entirely true."
"Really, Greg? Which ones?"
"All of them."
This was a gorgeous episode. Prior to this episode, I spent the day, generally miserable and feeling sorry for myself. This ep was exactly what I needed, a reminder that not all dreams come true, but it is still possible to have a "remarkable life." I was moved to tears twice, once when Dorothy finds out Charlie left and the second during the train scene. Aldis and Beth did a fantastic job. iTunes is having a sale on the Leverage Season Pass (today is the last day) and, despite the lack of closed captions, I ended up buying it after seeing this episode. I am loving the way the show is balancing humor with heavy themes.
Questions
1. There have now been three big Leverage train scenes. Is it the same train track, just shot from different angles or spots along the track?
2. Since it was necessary to switch up the order of the episodes for broadcast, will the dvds reflect the original intended order? Also, while there wasn't any blatant continuity, I thought Nate was acting like much less of an ass and Eliot seemed less stressed. Coincidence or not?
3. Will you please give us a one word hint (that's NOT pretzels) for what awaits Parker & Hardison this season?
4. A general question for the general populace: I was able to get that Aldis and Beth were doing some type of accents. Was Aldis imitating Danny Glover or was he doing something regional specific?
"That's not the true story."
"No, but it's the right one."
Damn straight it is.
Best episode yet. The entire cast knocked it out of the park.
PS When you see Danny Glover again, would you please, PLEASE tell him he was the best Philip Marlowe to ever grace the screen? And that's in a world including Bogart?
He was just so friggin' AMAZING in capturing the spirit of the character....
Had a thought about the Sheriff and his wife being able to help Charlie and still live in that town -- Dorothy remained behind. The Sheriff can say with some truth that he was keeping the gang from committing murder (still a crime) and yet kept Dorothy from leaving. So, Charlie was gone and would not be back (they could guess) and no one died. I don't know that Dorothy's father really WANTED to kill anyone -- he just didn't want his daughter to be with a black man, and in the US at that time with the miscegenation laws of the time, preventing that relationship was the big deal. Running Charlie out of town worked just as well as anything else with no messy details like a body.
Anyhow, that's my take on how someone like the Sheriff would present the situation and keep his life intact. Just upholding the law where courts decide things, not individuals. (Ironic, in a way)
In enjoyed the episode, but I couldn't help wondering: aren't they looking for looted Nazi art? Shouldn't they expect someone to surface with a claim of title? I mean, it was a "lost" Van Gogh, but SOMEone owned it, didn't they? Or did Van Gogh lose it?
Oh, and I understand perfectly that they couldn't give the black guy credit for the sniper kill. But why did they have to give anyone credit? Did they have to report it at all? (Yes, it's a petty question.)
I wanted to add my appreciation on the handling of the racism in this episode. You did a very good job of keeping it realistic without becoming heavy-handed. I'm curious about the line where the men attacking Charlie call him a "spook." I'm glad you chose to go with that rather unpleasant term although I'm sure some aren't. Was there discussion behind how far to take that?
Hopefully, I'm not repeating any questions:
1 A. Before being placed in the museum it was rescued from, where was the painting? Was it taken by Hitler's forces from a displaced family (most likely Jewish) or was it taken from a museum?
B. Either way, I'm not sure why it is being turned over to the Boston Museum of Fine Arts(?)... granted, they will most likely follow protocol when receiving a painting of questionable provenance but there are several organizations out there dedicated to reuniting looted WWII art with their rightful owners/descendants or the museum from which it was originally looted (prior to being removed to the Kaiser). I know you all do a lot of research, so I'm just wondering why you made the decisions you did (Full disclosure: I wrote my MA dissertation on the provenance of ancient works in US museums and BMFA has a history of naughtiness but I DO believe they are committed to being leaders in provenance research).
2. I am assuming that the insurance guy traces the painting from Becker to Charlie (I noted the "it seems" after the second viewing) by assuming since the painting was not logged anywhere that the person in charge of the supplies would have taken it?
Anyway, I am totally on the fun train and LOVED this episode. Thanks for everything!
Judging by the costuming during the scenes in France, it took place during mid to late fall 1944. Ironically, on Oct 13, 1944, Patton presented a silver star to Pvt. Ernest Jenkins - exactly what the Lt. swore would never happen
So, another (possibly petty) sniper question....
Why didn't Lt Fake!Eliot tell Charlie that he was lucky the report went in as was, since Charlie had taken a rifle that hadn't been issued to him? Couldn't Charlie have been in some trouble for that?
It was great to see a fresh new way to tell an interesting Leverage story. I'm not sure it all worked for me, but it's nice to see a beloved show take risks.
@Arakasi: Ironically, on Oct 13, 1944, Patton presented a silver star to Pvt. Ernest Jenkins - exactly what the Lt. swore would never happen
I just got back from doing a little research and yes, the lieutenant's statement was a matter of opinion, not policy.
I have mixed feelings on this one. Some of the flashbacks really didn't captivate me at all, particularly the earlier ones - everyone looked great and the Dorothy Charlie story was very likeable, and speech patterns were good, but there was not that final click for me that really transported me.
I'm kind of meh on Parker/Hardison as a couple (although I love them individually), so it's a testament though to Chris Downey, Aldis and Beth and Danny Glover that even though I don't love P/H, I did get emotionally involved with Dorothy-Charlie, and that was a big plus.
Also thought the gas man-mold inspector bit was awesome, as was the way Nate figured everything out and then told Charlie the best possible version of events.
But overall this was a lot closer to the 10 Lil Grifters Job than, say, the premier or even Rashomon or Two Live Crew Job- a nice little confection but not a classic (at least for me).
Damn it, you made me cry! Again, major props to Nadine, as well as cast and crew! Beautifully acted and shot.
A truly great episode. For me, though, because I’m so used to the template and rhythm that’s been established for the majority of the episodes, it sometimes feels like something is “missing”. Not to say that you should never step outside of the box you’ve created and do something different… BUT this is only the second viewing, so I know the ep will continue to grow on me.
1. (And here I had a whole rant planned out in my head for TNT on switching up episodes!). What prompted you, as a writer/creator of the show, instead of the network, to change the order that two episodes air?
2. What were Sophie and Hardison’s aliases while they were at the bank?
3. Is this the first time since the Leverage team got together that Eliot has - aside from Moreau - run into “colleagues” while on a job?
4. Who was the most star struck on set by Danny Glover? What was it like to direct him?
Loved the episode. Main question I had was what on earth was that Windows based tablet/touch screen doing in the apartment? Would Hardison really allow something that wasn't running an OS that he designed?
1) You said in one of your answers to The Long Way Down Job questions "But we'll see Maggie again before the series --not season, series - finale." This makes it seem like this is not the last season of Leverage, something that I've worried about because you talk about how you have to end each season like it's your last in case it is. Does this mean that there is definately a season 5 or beyond? (please say yes!!!!)
2) Are you afraid of the "Moonlighting Curse" with Nate/Sophie and is that why the characters are holding back? Also, (although you probably won't tell me this) are they ever going to have a defined relationship?
3) Is it possible for Nate to ever be happy again? Because it seems like he gets more damaged as the show goes on...
What was behind the color choices? Dorothy was yellow/gold; the sheriff was brown; Cecelia was red. The soldier flashbacks were blue & white (almost black & white). Charlie was all beige in his shoeshine apron before he was in uniform.
@Oona I kinda thought maybe Dorothy married the sheriff's brother. That would make Cecilia her daughter's aunt. And that wouldn't be too far-fetched. They were friends so I could see Cecilia playing matchmaker to mend her friend's broken heart.
I totally loved the episode. It was a nice change of pace. Aldis and Beth rocked last night.
@Famous4It:
Pineapples are a certain kind of grenade, the ones that look like, well, little pineapples. You can see one here.
The ad at the end of the episode promised something about a backstory to the ep? Doesn't appear to be on TNT's site.
Apparently Dorothy really did look like Parker, according to her daughter's scrapbook!
I loved loved loved this episode! For the record, I cried twice, and even once would be highly unusual. Danny Glover and Beth Riesgraf together were amazing together! And I loved that the 'story' characters that Beth and Aldis got to play really allowed them to show off their acting chops - that was SUCH a treat.
I, too, thought the racism aspect was very well handled, even though I found it wincing-painful at times to be reminded that such hardcore racism was common and pervasive (says one whose genetic family, spouse, and in-laws, can claim ancestry spanning four continents just in one's own generation, or five if you count South America as a separate continent, and less than half of those family members would be considered 'white').
Also, many kudos to Nadine Haders on the period costuming, I thought it was really spot-on.
I loved last nights world war 2 themed episode... but Nate's outfit gave me a thought...
Will we ever get to see a Wild West Leverage episode?
Preferably something told completely in flashback so that we'll be able to see nothing but the cast getting to play around in their "new parts" whereas in tonight's episode it was sort of half an half so we didn't get to do quite everything that I thought we could have if we devoted the entire episode to showing the 40's version of the cast.
That said I did love one "present" scene... Eilot's "on hold" "music" (a bit heavy on the percussion one might say) with the bank manager, Sophie and Hardison listening in...
This is actually for the Ten Little Indians Job, really, but I didn't see that post.
I just want to know how you could but Hardison in a bow-tie and not have him say 'bow-ties are cool'.
And this episode was beautiful. I cried.
Lovely episode, sir.Good mixture of pulp and sentiment.
My question is this. In the establishing shots of Williamette, there was a very clear shot of the Ashland plaza. I'm kind of wondering how you guys got that shot. Did you get it or was it second unit? And if you did get it, did you have time to stop at the Standing Stone Brewery and enjoy one of our fine microbrews?
This one was just lovely, and bittersweet, and affirming. My favorite thing about it might have been the subtle, repeated physical contact between Parker and Hardison that they took for granted, with the unspoken comparison drawn in each flashback to the way Charlie and Dorothy had to refrain from being too close. Heartbreaking but, again, affirming.
On an unrelated note, I think Nate's got more potential than we give him credit for. He may not believe in his own happy ending, but he doesn't begrudge other people theirs.
When did he catch on to Owen being the bad guy?
I know it's insane, but when I think of Hardison's Nana, I keep picturing Big Momma. Yikes.
Oopsies that's silly of me , thank you SueN
If there is such a thing as cinematic poetry, this episode was it. The story was so well-woven and the acting so seamless that the episode just stands on its own. The subtlety with which every single one of the actors infused the "new" characters with the threads of the existing ones should remind us all that this cast is a group of first-rate actors. The costuming, lighting, direction and writing was just pitch-perfect. Also there is no way to describe Danny Glover other than sublime. I am not usually inspired to pass out such lavish praise (I'm one of those hard, logical scientist types) but I'm afraid I have been pressed into it. This episode actually made me cry.
A few questions from an Oregonian:
Where were the 1940s exteriors filmed? We were thinking maybe Silverton or St. Paul but in any case, great location shots.
Related, why use a fictional town in Oregon rather than the real thing? After all, you set the show in "Boston", not "Massachusetts Baytown" or something like that.
I know Charlie had been out of Oregon for a long time, but why donate the painting to the Boston Art Museum? Why not the Portland Art Museum and keep it local?
Is Parker starting to soften up? She seems way more capable of emotion this season than in the past.
Another great episode. I do, however, have a quibble...I'm prepared to deal with an 8th grade lunchroom level romance (you're the writers. You get to do that. I get to watch. Thanks.)
But no serious, highly skilled hacker uses Windows branded technology. Maybe a box they've loaded with a linux install as the default system...but Windows?
Way too easy to be hacked, even if you keep it up to date and run every security device you can find.
Even when you're running your own network, the risk is too high.
To hack into multiple systems run by multiple agencies of multiple governments at superuser or equivalent level you need to be able to switch among OSs -- some of that stuff goes back pre-internet (Although if you buy me a drink, I can tell you some really funny stories -- no, wait, how would I know that? Pretend I didn't say anything.) Anyway, the Windows logos currently spewed all over your tech is a serious credibility problem. Actually, it puts Hardison in the "laughable" category.
"84% LOL" - That had me cracking up. Who was responsible for that masterpiece of cinematic dialogue? Also Kane as a "Lucas"? I just can't see it. However Marcus Dupree was an inspired choice.
My question: What was with the constant blowing of the nose? Did Aldis have a cold?
Loved this one. Beautiful music in this ep! Especially loved the theme for Dorothy Ross' character both when it was played on the Wurlitzer and when it was background music
Now that I'm watching in HD, I see that the people in the photos of Charlie and Dorothy aren't Aldis and Beth. Who are they?
So great!!. Amazing production, direction, script, costumer, background, colors filters andmimpressive the cast... Aldis and Beth left me without words. History with plasticity and poetry... Dorothy's sacrifice... heartbreaking. A movie, and a great movie in just 45 minutes.
Ok, I'm spanish, and my english isn't the best, but I try, sorry any mistake.
The painting inside the organ was a great point.
1) Eliot playing with the PC screen and Nat's reaction was hilarious, Who have the idea? Eliot scenes, good counterpoint.
2) Dorothy with the cape seemed like Little Yellow Riding Hood P:P, but good plasticity. Did you realize about this resemblance?
3) A nice and beautiful history, nice end. But I think that would have been nice if Hardison and Sophie had found in them safe-deposit box her letters that her daughter said she wrote.
Then they give ger letters to Charlie, and he open them when Parker and Hardison leave the room, just open without reading in the episode.
And when Nate tell her life after Charlie and there are her flashback, would have been nice if she had appeared writing the letters with melancholy in her old desk.
Good point the old desk and the key hide there. What do you think about? Did you think it when you wrote but didn't work?... where are the letters?
4) She had 70.000 dollars, 70.000!... and the daughter didn't know anything??... Ok, she could hide the key while her father or husband were alive and while she was hoping, but when she became older, or in her testament... don't tell anything about the money, did she not leave it to her at legacy?.. It's money, and It's her mother... but OK, it would remove the romanticism.
And the painting... she leave the painting without vigilance when she dies... she could say it to her daughter to continue her promise... because someone could demolish the Roller Palace or anything.
but OK, it would remove the romanticism. All 4 point are just thoughts... and the story is better than if she told her daughter.
And... there are a question in the air, and is good that stay in the air... she was leal... we know...and her daughter said that she wrote with melancholy letters to anyone who wanted listening, but she was a wife in love with her husband or she
marry because was the only way to a woman in 1942... her husband knew her love story or realize about her melancholy... her daughter seems like didn't know anything... but she knew something was.
3. Is this the first time since the Leverage team got together that Eliot has - aside from Moreau - run into “colleagues” while on a job?
I'm not Rogers, but I personally remember the Butcher of Kiev that appeared in The Wedding Job. I suspect that he was never technically a "colleague" instead of an antagonist, but he was a figure from Eliot's past that he dealt with in a "professional" sense. We got to see Gutman in The Roshaman Job but that was in flashback so I'm assuming it doesn't count.
D'oh! I just remembered Eliot's friend the General from the San Lorenzo Job. I'd say he definitely qualifies.
There may be others, but and none of these examples are fellow "retrieval" experts, but Eliot's rep before he teamed up with the Leverage crew was that he always worked alone, as was Parker's and Hardison's.
Great ep overall. I liked the attempt to do something different and using the characters in the flashbacks. And I agree that Aldis was really channeling Danny Glover in his scenes. A. lot. OK, on to the list.
1) You said earlier this year that you experienced evil burnout from writing Leverage stories. Was this episode a reaction to that, or was it a particular idea a writer had you had hoped to do all along? Would like to hear the history.
2) Aldis' french WAS amazing. Does he speak it or did he learn it for the ep?
3) Beth was, quite simply, stunning in this episode all around. Parker glowed with this new found innocence. I know it won't lost and she hasn't changed fundamentally. It was just cool for her to shine out new facets so brilliantly, and sell it so well. Your thoughts?
4) Someone asked this I think, but Dorothy/Parker an homage? If so, YOU ARE SO COOL.
5) Have we seen Owen before? Or is the actor just familiar to me? and will we see him again? You said there are going to be consequences. Nate just f**d with the man's livelihood, as they say in certain quarters.
6) And how did Owen afford all that muscle that Eliot knew? $5M was a hefty payday, how did he get all that scratch? It didn't seem clear that Nate was aware Owen was dirty, but was he? Aware?
6) Thanks for doing Vincent. Is there an incident involving a lost Van Gogh, or is this just representative of the "big art heist prize" people always imagine is out there? Ignorant of this myself.
7) Last one, promise. Will you ever do a story based on the Hermitage Museum scandal that was featured in the Art of the Heist documentary, where a curator died mysteriously and a bunch of stolen pieces mysteriously returned back to the Museum? I realize shooting at the Hermitage probably isn't um, you know, in the budget, but the logistics of that place AND the unbelievably stupid security fascinated me. Seemed ripe for parody at the very least.
Thanks for doing what y'all do, as we say in the good state of North Carolina.
They called Charlie a spook, and the insurance guy says he spent years chasing a ghost... Good one!
Not a question, but I LOVE the fact that despite playing different characters, the chemistry between the cast still shines through.
That's all, thank you.
When the bank manager called Eliot to confirm Sophie and Hardison's visit, Eliot hesitated before saying his name was Marcus Dupree. This seems to be before he notices that man that owes him 27k (which could distract him), so thinking that I was missing a joke, I googled the name.
The only Marcus Dupree I found was a football player. Am I missing something or just staring too hard at Christian on the screen?
I got some serious giggles over "Sheriff Nate" in the flashbacks. How did you decide who got assigned what flashback character (save for Parker & Hardison... that needs no explanation)?
This is, by far, my favorite episode. I don't think you've written one that's tugged on the heartstrings or played with our emotions as much as this one did. The story was so sad, but beautiful & poingnant. And the last thing Danny Glover's character says to Parker, well, is basically the same thing every single Leverage fan has been thinking since the Pilot. :)
Nothing to ask, just wanted to give a ginormous round of applause for EVERYBODY, and I figured it wouldn't really go through my tv screen. 'Course for Beth, Aldis, Tim, Gina and Christian for that amazing acting, to y'all writers for the tear-jerker-ness of that star-cross lovers story, for the scenery (that rink makes me want to break out my skates right now) and good god, the costumes. Gorgeous.
I just wanted to link an article on the Red Ball Express, since people seem interested: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=43934
P.S. Can you find some excuse to get Aldis speaking French again? Pretty please? I could listen to that all day. ;-)
@Coriferne You're assuming Dorothy knew she was going to die. Her cause of death, at least to my recollection, was never stated. For all we know, she got into a car accident or had a heart attack. Another possibility is that she succumbed to Alzheimer's and didn't remember either the painting or the safety deposit box. Any moments of lucidity coupled with possible revelations could've been dismissed by her family since she never mentioned it before.
@mktackabery: And how did Owen afford all that muscle that Eliot knew? $5M was a hefty payday, how did he get all that scratch?
The muscle was working on spec, in anticipation of a share of the finder's fee (which Sophie estimated was worth $10M).
Just wanted to sat Congrats to the cast and crew for a wonderful episode and I am so glad that it reflects in the ratings. How wonderful is it to have achieved such high ratings in your fourth season? lol.
I don't really have much in the way of questions, but I have been wondering, how long have the writers been waiting for an opportunity to have Aldis speak french?
Can you make it so Hardison knows french too? Because Aldis's french was spot on and I think I may have fallen a little bit in love with him at that moments.
Oh man...Oaks Park. One of your previous blog entries reminded me of one of the times I went there as a kid. It was your blog entry on how roller coasters terrify you. Back when I was a kid, there was a roller coaster there called the Might Mouse. It had been around since my grandma was a kid and rode on it. It was made of wood and you could see the whole thing shake while cars went around the track. Actually being in one of the cars was worse because you could hear the structure groan while you rattle around it. It had these hairpin turns you were never quite sure the car was going to make it around. I only rode it only once and it was the first time I ever did the "Pony Clown Scream". They tore it down 10 years ago and built a new roller coaster when they finally tired of replacing broken, rotten boards. Thanks for dredging up that nicely repressed memory John.
What neighborhood or town stood in for "Willamette City?"
(Oh, now I feel a bit silly. There actually IS a Willamette City, in the sticks SE of Salem. I've been living in Oregon for nine years and hadn't heard of it.)
Nifty episode. Who was the actor playing Danny Glover?
And nice touch having Mel Gibson play Eliot.
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@Christina, re: Marcus Dupree. He was a football player, and played college ball at Oklahoma. Which also happens to be Kane's alma mater. ;)
@JD_McCartney, that's a very cool link, thanks! I'd never heard of the Red Ball Express. Fascinating!
(See? Leverage – you con and you learn.)
I was saying a few weeks ago that every good show has a WWII episode somehow....and it was awesome!!! This may be my favorite episode ever.
How much fun was it to get away from the usual scummy bad guys and do something a little different?
Thanks again for such a great show.
I know its not really relevant to this episode, but just something that's been bugging me.
As a waitress I know resturaunts and even banquet service is tight knit, people would notice one or two people not in proper uniform, and not known. (Uniforms are rather specific to resturaunts, and people notice my shirt because it isn't plain black but textured black) there's a lot of standing around in service industry, people would notice Parker when ever she's in waitress garb.
Did you have a consultant who said they get away with this? I mean I suppose its possible for a short period of time, but managers don't put lots of booze in just anyone's hand!
Love the show this has always just bugged me!
Who came up with the Marcus Dupree line? You or Christian? Being from Oklahoma and a huge Sooner fan, I loved it!
after the episode where Christian sings, this is my absolute favorite!! It was sweet and it was full of so much emotion - thanks for letting Beth stretch a bit!
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My question, how do you feel knowing you just made a grown man cry watching that episode.
I hope I'm not too late on this!
1) Had Danny Glover already agreed to do a role this season and this one was picked or did he agree because after reading the script?
2) Was there actually a missing Van Gogh from the war? Is that part true?
3) Is the team fully aware of the relationship between Parker and Hardison now? Are they okay with it? Nate is the only one I think might disapprove.
4) Interracial relationships were unacceptable of during the 40s but do you feel the Parker and Hardison is really that big of a deal in current times? Since Parker is so unaware of what social rules are most of the times, was she even aware it might still be controversial? (Not that I think she'd care but just wondering)
5) The treasure hunters that Eliot kept running into - were they employed by Nate's friend or just independents looking for he painting because they heard about it too?
I loved this episode. So much heart and emotion in it. I smiled cheered and cried so much in that hour! And the hours I've watched it repeatedly (about 7 times now :P) Its easily my favorite.
Aldis and Beth were brilliant in this. Absolutely amazing and Emmy worthy performances(if Emmys were given to shows I actually watch lol) Although this type of episode is a departure from the 'norm' on Leverage, I think it was executed well so that it wasn't cheesy or overdone.
I love the way you're slipping in online terms like squee last week and LOL this ep!
To anonymous who asked: "84% LOL" - That had me cracking up. Who was responsible for that masterpiece of cinematic dialogue? Also Kane as a "Lucas"? I just can't see it. However Marcus Dupree was an inspired choice.
My question: What was with the constant blowing of the nose? Did Aldis have a cold?
Hardison was allergic to dust. He kept complaining about the dust and his allergies. Which I believe he mentioned last episode when they went to the records room too.
One more thing - a HUGE shoutout to Nadine Haders on this episode. Beautiful costuming!!! And the set designers too. Very realistic.
@JD_McCartney, I want to add my thanks for the Red Ball link! That's a great bit of history.
I had a difficult time watching the flashback scene where the lieutenant tells Charlie the he will not be getting credit because he's a negro! Did Chris have to have a conversation with Aldis about it?
Hey John,
I love your show. Starting now, I'm going to try to actually partake in the Q/A rather than just read them after the fact.
I've got a question and I hope it doesn't sound critical/bitchy/internetty because that is not the spirit in which it is asked. At any rate, between the let's have the actors play other characters episode and the whodunnit episode, there hasn't been that much con and heist stuff so far this season. Are you guys running out of con and heist material, or are you getting bored with the formula, or is it just a quirk of the schedule that we've gotten two oddball episodes so early into the season?
I'm shocked. Did no one else pick up on Elliot's throwing LOL in as part of his gas man "jargon." I almost peed myself laughing. Y'ALL ROCK.
my favorite episode in season 4! bravo Mr. Rogers..
one question: what was the model of Eliot's car? please answer.. =)
Thanks for The Van Gogh Job. I loved it! Very Woody Allen ala "Midnight in Paris." Cathartic to feel what people had to experience not that long ago, even as they were fighting for our freedom in WWII. Beautiful rink and that fairytale yellow riding hood? Priceless! Aldis/Alec & Beth/Parker are a beautiful couple.
Well done Mr. Glover.
So, how much cash is Big Redmond kicking into the production process for that Windows logo?
I'm visiting Portland, and we were cycling on the Springwater Corridor, and I didn't know the Oaks Roller Rink was near there. Basically I saw it, went through a total OMG moment, dragged my sister down the slope, scared the lady at the counter, took a picture, ran out ,jumped gate and went back to my bike. It made me immensely happy to know I stood in the same building the Leverage Cast and Crew were in just a few weeks earlier....Thank you
Oh, and sorry for adding to the giant pile of comments you have to go through, but I really wanted to share =)
Let me just add my "Awwwwww!" to the pile of compliments. The episode was lovely. How did you all decide what the painting should be? Can we now look forward to spotting the lost Van Gogh in various storage rooms, along side the Klimt and the Science-ical props?
My 2 cents on the aunt discussion: I read it as the English war bride married the sheriff and became Dorothy's aunt because the sheriff was a sibling of one of Dorothy's parents.
That would make Sophie's war bride character the great-aunt of Dorothy's daughter. Since the aunt lived long enough to be a part of her grand-niece's life, Dorothy's daughter refers to her in affectionate short-hand as 'my aunt.'
Genealogically speaking, it also works if the sheriff is Dorothy's older brother. His wife becomes the aunt of Dorothy's daughter. But I think if that were true, the sheriff would have been WAY more protective of Dorothy...
OR...the sheriff could be a VanBuren sibling. So Cecilia would've become Dorothy's sister-in-law when Dorothy married. Lots of possibilities...
I cried. Just wanted to get that out.
Seeing the cast in similar-but-different roles was jarring at first (kind of like how seeing Gina Bellman play someone sane after Coupling took me a while to get used to), but everyone really hit it out of the park. The Lt was fantastic, Cecilia seamless... But the parts that really hit home were Dorothy at train and Charlie when he took the painting and confronted Mr. Ross in the woods. You could literally see the moment when he finally gets fed up with all the racism and snaps, and it was riveting to watch. Please pass that on to Mr. Hodge.
Charlie's mention of the Wurlitzer at the beginning of the episode was presumably meant to be a clue as to the hiding place. When do you decide to put in clues like that? Are they considered necessary when writing a certain type of mystery or story for the screen?
Is it just me, or does Aldis just keep getting more and more amazing each season?
Where did the inspiration for this episode come from? I feel a really good story there. Really good story about a really good story. Maybe because of a really good story.
So do you try to find a set to fit the script? Or change the script to fit the location?
Wow...just so many way awesome things in this ep. You made me cry. There's no crying in Leverage. Eliot and the gas company jargon: "...LOL." I love it. That was hysterical. And Sheriff Nate just made my day. A couple questions:
1. As many people above have asked, would Hardison really be running a computer with an OS he hadn't designed? Windows is just too hackable.
2. Eliot seems to know a lot of these hitter people by name. Will we get to see even more of the evil evil guys he knows cause evilness?
3. As many people have also asked, I noted that Gina especially looked pretty comfortable on that organ. How many of the actors that "played" the organ in the ep were actually playing?
4. Did the cast, Beth and Aldis especially, enjoy getting to play a 40's version of their character?
Also, my thoughts on the whole "aunt Cecilia" thing: I believe the sheriff was Alfred Ross's brother, and Dorothy's uncle. For those who were confused by Dorothy's daughter referring to her as aunt Cecilia, I call my great-aunts "Aunt Jill," "Aunt Marie," etc. So it could be like that, I guess.
This was an incredible ep, good job everybody! I wanna see more Sophie, but you're doing great. Season 4 is looking awesome. And I just heard about Season 5...congrats!
Upon rewatching, I find I have another question: Nate and the painting at the end; did he pull some clever switcheroo that we didn't get to see?
And I loved Sophie and Hardison's reactions to the fight; were those scripted or just Gina and Aldis being awesome?
Hi there. It's me again (sorry!). Something else I wondered about: At the beginning, when the bad guy was pretending to be a cop, Charlie called him on his fake badge. Hardison did this as well, in the Double Blind Job. Are fake badges just that easy to spot in general, or does the Leverage team (and Charlie) have a fake-badge-spotting superpower? Or, were Charlie and/or Hardison bluffing because they guessed the FBI/cop was a fake?
I also wanted to extend a thank you for this episode, perhaps for slightly different reasons.
Being an amateur researcher of all things WWII, I was particularly interested in the filming of the scene between Eliot and Hardison's characters, regarding the medal, who would receive it, and why.
I feel the comments represented the era and the attitudes of the time very well, without dwelling on the issue, and keeping the conversation short and simple. I guess you could say it had that matter of fact style.
I shared this episode with my uncles and they agreed your scripting was done well by keeping on point and moving on, which was indeed a valued behavior in a time of war.
My question though, is completely off topic. Do you still use one of those Red One cameras when filming the episodes? Do you have more than one camera? Or is the filming and the schedule centered around having only one camera? Just curious.
Hardison plays the race card or generally worries about his race a lot (Mile High, First David, Three Days of Hunter, Gone Fishin, etc.) and I was hoping for an episode that actually dealt with racism. I agree with those who said that it was well handled here, but I was wondering: are they ever going to have to deal with modern-day racism against Black people?
I'm told it still exists in the US.
I know it's probably too late to expect an answer here, but I have a question about the following exchange:
Eliot: What, man? He's telling me to learn technical stuff all the time.
Nate: Well, that'll never happen.
I wasn't really sure what you were getting at, here. Is this meant to come off as everyone underestimating Eliot's skill? Because we have seen that Eliot is very capable with computers; he remotely disabled Manticore from a computer that doesn't even speak the same language! (I'm assuming Manticore was running on a modern day machine, because Moore's Law, etc.) And sure, Hardison told him how to do it, but if someone's actually tech challenged, telling them how to do it beforehand would not suffice.
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I was Beth’s hand double for this episode! They also hired another person for Gina’s!
Answer to #3, Gina and Beth were not playing the organ, I was hired as Beth’s hand double to play the organ and they had another hand double for Gina!
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