If you haven't read KJ Parker, you need to; seems like entirely your kind of thing. Start with Devices and Desires. Parker's only trouble is that it seems difficult to actually get a hold of her books.
My latest favorites are The First Law Trilogy, by Joe Abercrombie. I'm slowly making my way through Best Served Cold, the one-tenth-sequel-nine-tenths-stand-alone set on a different continent.
My all-time favorites are probably the Acts of Caine by Matthew Stover, which he's hoping/trying to adapt into a comic book: http://www.overworld.tv
After 30 years, I'm still reading - and loving - the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever by Stephen R Donaldson. The recent series has been positively sublime! There is only one book left to go - The Last Dark, ETA 2013. Oh, and the author has been responding to fan questions for the past few years in what he calls a "Gradual Interview" on his website.
This is more urban fantasy, but Laura Anne Gilman's Retrievers series (To Catch a Magical Thief) and her new Paranormal Scene Investigations series (a group of misfits invent CSI for a half-hidden magical community) are my current favorites.
The magical and political systems are well-thought out and both logical and complex. And there isn't a cardboard character in the bunch. The team dynamics in Hard Magic rival Leverage - that, by the way, is one of the biggest compliments I can give.
Someone needs to take a look at these novels - of course, the Dresden Files tanked, so is there any hope for any urban fantiasy television?
Been while since I read them, and I still have to read the third one - I'm kinda hung up in another book right now, and I refuse to leave another one unfinished - but currently my fave is the Night Angel trilogy by Brent Weeks.
And the one I'm stuck in is part three of the Farseer trilogy, I seem to be on an assassin trip.
I'd love to see an adaptation of Glen Cook's Black Company books. Military fantasy; magic, monsters, battles, falls from grace, redemption, betrayal, and that's just in the first book.
There's even multiple love interests already baked into the story, so no need to ruin a good plot by trying to stitch one in.
Since I've just finished reading book 4 of Charlie Stross' Merchant Princes series, I'm going to go ahead and say, make that a TV show, please! It's got your medieval fantasy, your steampunk, politics in 3 different worlds/time periods, intrigue, and spooks all running around chasing rogue nukes/worldwalking narcogangs. There's something int here for everyone, including some romance, badass female warriors and a clear description of economics and modern politics. The only flaw is that the characters are a little thin but some talented actors, over say 6 seasons, could really flesh out those sketches into real people.
So, uh, those of us (at least one of us) who are currently studying (procrastinating) in countries where they talk funny can't see that video... is there an officially sanctioned alternative that wouldn't get the copy-police mad at us?
Update - the embed still won't load, but the video at the link does, and it looks awesome. I know what I'll be reading once I get this stupid degree done...
Word verification - conte - holy cow, it's an actual word! In French, sure, but still!
Favorite fantasy series is LotR with Katherine Kerr's Deverry series running a close second, and I don't want to see TV shows of either one, please.
But I quite liked Wizards and Warriors when it was on the air back in the early 80s, though. All eight wonderful episodes. (No doubt it helped that I was 14.)
I suppose one can quibble over "fantasy" vs. "alt-history," but setting aside LotR and the Song of Ice & Fire series, one of my favorite fantasy books has got to be Jonathan Strange and Mister Norrell by Susanna Clarke. Pretty dense and a bit slow to start, but once you get to the war, it's just fantastic. Wonderful details abound.
Latest favorite is the Shadowmarch tri^H^H^Htetralogy from Tad Williams. Waiting for the last volume to show up in my local public library's collection...
Most recent fave fantasy novel was definitely The Magicians by Lev Grossman. Besides being an interesting piece of world building and some solid metafiction, it was simply the book I enjoyed the most last year.
And I'm about to start, and have high hopes for, Ink and Steel by Elizabeth Bear.
My favorite fantasy series of all time is the Deryni series by Katherine Kurtz. Especially the original trilogy. (Something that I think would translate really well to film/TV). Favorite single book is The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks. I'm not a fan of the more recent Shannara books and nothing has really caught my eye recently.
I've always wanted to see CJ Cherryh's Morgaine novels televised. Great characters, awesome visuals (stargates, swords, horses, time travel, aliens), cool SF-ish premise leading to swords-and-sorcery kinds of stories.
I'd love to see Moorecock's Elric of Melnibone adapted as a long-format anime/anime-style series (either from one of the better Japanese studios, or Peter Chung).
(... or as a three-to-six-hour animated rock opera epic. That would be amazing. but would so totally tank.)
For live-action -- Keith's dead-on. Stross' Merchant Princes series has it all. Modern Urban, Fantastic Medieval, and STEAMPUNK, all in their own seperate worlds.
Riddle Master of Hed - P. McKillip Terry Pratchett's Discworld (30+ and counting) Six quirky medieval novels by Judith Merkle Riley Butcher's Dresden And the best, best, best: The Chalion Trilogy (hopefully eventually to be five); The Sharing Knife Four; and the Vorkosigan series (that starts with two novels about our hero's MOTHER!!!) by the incomparable Lois McMaster Bujold.
My absolute favourite fantasy novel, given I'm a huge fan of the genre? (I'm currently making what looks like it might end up being my second feature film in fantasyland.)
Dog Wizard, by the criminally underrated Barbara Hambly. A brilliantly realised historical world with a rock-solid and unique magical culture, and quite the most wonderful plot and characterisation. The villain - and I won't spoiler - is, as far as I'm aware, pretty much unique in fantasy fiction.
If that were to be made into a film or series, I'd - probably actually be on tenterhooks waiting to find out if whoever made it had actually gotten it.
I apologize for not naming my latest favorite fantasy novel while I was complaining about the video embed not working. I'm shocked that nobody's mentioned The Name of the Wind, by Patrick Rothfuss, because it is FANTASTIC. It is the only English language novel I brought with me this year, and as soon as I get out ahead of my homework again, I'm going to continue re-reading it... so, you know, in June.
I also got introduced to the Vorkosigan saga quite recently, and it's amazing as well, but I'd call it sci-fi.
Oh, man, I thought I'd given up on this kind of thing.
I mean, how often does an adaptation come out even halfway decent? SyFy has managed to utterly ruin some beloved sf/fantasy series (Earthsea, Riverworld).
Better to enjoy your favorite books as books. They don't NEED the validation of being filmed. Or taped. Or, ah, captured. Or rendered.
But that said . . . I'll second the notion of adapting Stross' Merchant Families novels. Wouldn't be a budget-buster.
Umm, I'm not suggesting it be adapted, but I REALLY loved Patrick Rothfus' Name of the Wind. Just wonderful.
"Later, when black night lay across the forest, he would seek through his books for spells to guard him through the unpredictable glades. They would be poignant corrosive spells, of such a nature that one would daunt the brain of an ordinary man and two render him mad. Mazirian, by dint of stringent exercise, could encompass four of the most formidable, or six of the lesser spells…. Mazirian made a selection from his books and with great effort forced five spells upon his brain: Phandaal’s Gyrator, Felojun’s Second Hypnotic Spell, The Excellent Prismatic Spray, The Charm of Untiring Nourishment, and the Spell of the Omnipotent Sphere."
From The Dying Earth by Jack Vance
The D and D magic system is based on Jack Vance's stories found in the Dying Earth and the novel the Eyes of the Overworld. Although he's bare-bones in his depictions, you can find reference to spells like the Prismatic Spray and the Forlorn Encistment and a narrative description of the very gruesome, Phandaal's Gyrator.
A journalist once commented on a flaw in the Harry Potter series regarding magic. The spells in HP come at no cost to the user. In the D and D system, you forget each spell cast and must struggle to learn another. Moreover, you can wither your body away by casting permanent spells. Finally there's a rigid distinction between spells types of magic users ad clerics who call on the powers of the gods. I think the system rooted in Vance's story universe would be easy to dramatize, but getting permission to use those elements might be a nightmare.
@Kris I was making a joke about LEVERAGE, I'm not doing Locke Lamora.
Maybe you *should* do Locke Lamora. Locke is awesome. I'm a little giddy about the next book finally coming out. I'd be pretty excited about it if you adapted it, too.
Another vote for The Merchant Princes series by Charles Stross. Would make a brilliant long-form TV series -- magic, time/dimension travel, medieval fantasy, steampunk, linked to the present day, military thriller, costume drama, even royalist romantic adventure. Something definitely for all... and it could do so much over a number of seasons.
Ditto on "Bridge of Birds" by Hughart. It's one of the most astonishingly beautiful, revelatory and hilarious fantasy stories I've ever read. And nigh-on-immune to adaptation.
But! for epic trilogy craziness, I love Tad Williams' "Dragonbone Chair" - the trilogy was called Memory, Sorrow, Thorn, I think. Gotta give some love to the Riftwar books by Ray Feist too. Excellent adaptation of The War of the Roses into fantasy form.
I'd have to give another vote to Bujold's books. The Chalion books are excellent. Detailed and consistent world, interesting plot, good pacing.
The sharing knife books are good, but do suffer a bit due to being structured as a romance first, fantasy second. The fantasy world's central conflict is inherently unresolvable, and the conclusion just doesn't have enough meat on it to satisfy (but then, if you're talking TV series, that might just lead into further seasons....)
The Vorkossigan books are also excellent, and personal favorites, but are disqualified from this discussion due to being Science Fiction.
I've been following this discussion and noting down the many suggestions I haven't heard of (my local library system probably can find a lot of 'em) and being pleased at the mentions of a lot of stuff I already like (especially Hambly, but also Stross, Abercrombie, Novik, Rothfuss, Hughart...).
But just a second! Lesley, do you mean to say that the third Locke Lamora book is actually on the way? Honest and for true? Geez, I didn't think he'd ever write it.
I know it'll never happen, but I wish that the Harry Potter books could have been done as a TV series rather than movies. Even if they would have been typical British length (half a dozen episodes per year), we still would have gotten more of the story then the movies gave us.
And really, that's what I prefer in adaptations. I'd rather watch a TV series adaptation than a Movie adaptation, especially of novel-length stories, since there's more storytelling time available and less of the story would need to be cut.
As for actual fantasy novels/series I'd love to see given a TV adaptation?
Dies the Fire/The Protector's War/The Meeting at Corvalis by S.M. Stirling. It's a post-apocalyptic fantasy series (low magic).
I'd love to see The Dragonriders of Pern (yes, technically science fiction, but that needn't come up until later, if ever) by Anne McCaffery as a TV series (the dragons would be fairly easy to CGI given today's technology).
I'm sure there's a Dungeons and Dragons based book series that would work well as a TV series (it would have to be inoffensive enough to not offend too many of the crazies). Perhaps one of the Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance books (though I'd love to seen an Eberron based series, it ain't ever going to happen).
Unfortunately, I'm more of a Sci-fi nerd, at least lately.
What books can do very well that visual media do not do very well is show what is going on inside a character's head. It is because of this reason that many of the best works are essentially, un-filmable.
Jim Butcher's Dresden Files is my favorite urban fantasy, but that has been done already. I love Rob Thurman's Cal Leandros series, Kim Harrison's Underlanders series, and Mike Carey's fabulous Felix Castor series. I'm also very partial to Tanya Huff, who writes in several fantasy subgenres, and Robin Hobb, who writes more traditional fantasy.
A third vote for Bujold's Chalion books -- heroic medieval fastasy for people who don't like heroic medieval fantasy. The world is based fairly closely on 15th-century Spain, with limited paranormal stuff and a really interesting alternate religion. I haven't reread The Curse of Chalion in a few years, but I just now realized who was reminding me of its hero -- the historical Thomas Cromwell of Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall.
I'd forgotten Barbara Hambly, but I enjoyed several of her books when they were SF Book Club entries in the 80's. She was also the author of what has to be the all-time best Star Trek/Here Come The Brides mashup novel, called Ishmael. (Inspired by the fact that Mark Lenard was in both series.)
WV: "havides", as in the sentence "In Rome, all months havides."
My favorites are by far the Sword of Truth series by Goodkind. Though I watched the show because it was well cast, whoever decided to go so far off the books should be shot. There are what? 12 books and they couldn't even stick to the story through the first season? It was like watching fanfiction based on the books. Also the fact that they completely changed the world drove me nutty. I'm with whoever said HP should have been made into British mini-series. That would have been awesome!
Garth Nix's Abhorsen trilogy and the Princess Bride, which somehow is even funnier than the film, thanks to the increased length and omniscient narrator.
Jim Butcher and I go way back (he introduced me to my wife on an Amber MUSH, before any of us were remotely famous) and I'm only just now reading his excellent Codex Alera series. It's the Lost Legion meets Pokemon! Can't get better than that.
I have to second Abercrombie's First Law books. That's one series I would love to adapt to RPG, though really it's essentially Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. Joe's another big gamer-turned-bestselling-author.
I adore Jim Buther's Dresden Files and I worship at the alter of Terry Pratchett.
However, my current favorite is Jim Hines' Princess Series. It is Charlie's Angels meets Grimm's Fairy Tale Princesses. I love it for being possibly the first series where the women are awesome on their own, and the first book has "Cinderella" on a quest to go and save her prince.
Also, "Sleeping Beauty" uses her fairy gifts to pretty much be made of pure kick-you-in-the-face and "Snow White" is a witch of epic proportions.
The books he has out so far are an obscenely easy read, but he has complex characters and women that kick ass while not necessarily doing so in a "rawr we hate men" way.
Sentimental favorites are Harry Potter by Rowling and the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series by Rick Riordan.
The Percy books are so much better than the movie and they are so well written. I binged on the series and got done in a week.
Bride of the Rat God was one of her best, I think. Although I like almost everything she's written. Apparently she's got the idea for a sequel to BotRG called Curse of the Swamp Monster but she's probably never going to write it.
The single greatest fantasy book every* is Lud in the Mist by hope Mirrlees. It was written in the 1920s and I sometimes imagine a world where all the derivative fantasy novels written between the 1960s and the 1980s were inspired by this book instead of Lord of the Rings. It's epic, beautiful, funny and wonderfully eerily magical.
Michael Swanwick's The Iron Dragon's Daughter and The Dragon's of Bable are pretty damn good as well.
I neglected to mention the Enchanted Inc. series by Shanna Swendson. It is Sex in the City meets Harry Potter. That would make a great television series.
I have to second the Stephen Donaldson Books - the Covenant series previously, and also his 'Man Rides Through' fantasy duology.
I must admit, however, that this author is so good (nobody else keeps me up all night, gasping and laughing out loud,) he has spoiled me from reading most other fantasy novels. People keep recommending books to me, but sadly they keep falling up short.
Hopefully I'll find at least one suggestion from this list to sate my appetite for reading great fantasy!
The Orphan's Tales books by Catherynne Valente ('The Orphan's Tales: In the Night Garden' and 'The Orphan's Tales: In the Cities of Coin and Spice') are insanely beautiful.
It's about a girl who lives in the garden of a palace telling the stories she has tattooed on her eyes to the son of the Sultan. There are stories within stories like those Russian nesting dolls and each one is a piece of a puzzle that all comes together to form this amazing, lush picture of a whole unique world. So gorgeous.
PhantomMinuet, I don't care that Dresden has been done before. It needs to be done as an extended miniseries with Paul Blackthorne returning as Harry, James Marsters as Thomas, Christina Ricci as Karin, and Tom Berenger as Michael.
I hesitate to make suggestions because tv seldom does fantasy or s/f well. However, my favorites are: The Amber novels of Zelazny, as well as LORD OF LIGHT. The Taltos novels by Steven Brust. Barbara Hambly has several series that I'd like to see done right, but mostly the Darwath ones. Bujold's Chalion universe is terrific. Joel Rosenberg has three fantasy universes that I'm aware of but I think D'SHAI would translate best. Oh, and THE ANUBIS GATES by Tim Powers. I suppose, circling back to Zelazny, that what I'd most like to see done is CREATURES OF LIGHT AND DARKNESS.
My favorite that hasn't been adapted yet? Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell. I didn't know if it was already in the works, so I headed over to IMDb to cheack it out. A search for the title got a closest match with a foreign film called "Vampiros Lesbos." Yeah, but no.
Since "Strange" is essentially a Regency costume drama with Gormenghast overtones, I assume that the BBC will be all over it some day.
Anything by Martha Wells. I love that she started with a swashbuckling world and then thought through how magic would evolve through an Age of Enlightenment and an industrial revolution.
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Brandon Sanderson has been my hands down favorite for some time. His newest 'The Way of Kings' is unbelievably well done. His world building us second to none. His mistborn trilogy, which, coinicdently involves s band of thieves and con artists fighting for the greater good, is amazing. I've never seen magic systems like the ones he builds, nevermind the depth of history he puts his work. and it's history as history is, written by the victor... Which also reminds me of Micael A Stackpole and his works. He's another author that really brings his worlds and characters to life using history and peoples interpritarons on that history.
I'd love to see a Dresden flick at some point, despite how the series was received. Hell, the way Syyyfyyy is doing their current set of original series, why not give Dresden a belated second season, especially with as many additions to the Dresdenverse as have been made since then.
As far as adaptability goes, I just started reading Cameron Haley's "Mob Rules", and I could definitely see it being worth watching on the small screen.
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I've been reading the most recent Wheel of Time book, Towers of Midnight. I was so worried when Robert Jordan died that the series would never be finished but Brandon Sanderson has stepped in and done phenomenally. Hell, there are moments I think he does a better job than Jordan did.
My favorite fantasy series has to be The Death Gate Cycle by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. I always recommend them.
I still haven't been able to get through the last GRRM book, A Feast for Crows. It just seems completely different from the rest of the series and I struggled about a third of the way to half way through and put it down. I've been thinking of skipping it all together. Is it worth it to try to muddle through it?
roger Zelazney's Amber books would be an amazing series at the rate of say three 42 minute episodes per book, but the series that screams to be made into TV show is Spider Robinson's Callahan's place short stories. Also, too - If someone would just make Stranger in a Strange Land with a screenplay that is faithful to the novel into a big budget movie, I could discorporate a happy man
Steven Brust's Taltos series, starting with Jhereg. My all-time favorite series hands down, these ought to be made into something, preferably with a nice V/O to give you all of Vlad's snarkiness. There's a new book out in a few months, and when it arrives, I am completely busy until I finish it. Seriously, food, drink, sleep... all of these things are out.
Fred Saberhagen's Book of Swords series should also be on that list. Marvelous stuff.
I'll also second the vote for Zelazny's Amber books, although only the front half. The back half gets a little wonky.
And why, oh why, has no one tried to make a series based on Spider Robinson's "Callahan's Crosstime Saloon" books yet? It's practically BEGGING to be adapted.
Adding a vote to see the Steven Brust Taltos novels adapted! Gripping, suspenseful, deeper than it seems at first, and wonderfully snarky...
Agreed that seeing the Callahan's stories by Spider Robinson on screen is long overdue.
Recent enthusiasms? Name of the Wind (glorious, by Patrick Rothfuss) and Clockwork Heart (intricate and unique steampunkish caste society, by Dru Pagliassotti).
Well since you asked, Guy Gavriel Kay is my all-time favorite fantasy author. Tigana, The Last Light of the Sun, The Sarantine Mosaic, I could go on and on but I’d pretty much just make a list of his complete works. That being said George R.R. Martin is up there on my list as well as Robert Jordan and of course JRR Tolkien. It’s great that Martin is on board for the production of this, too often a lack of involvement from the original creator seems to mean that the show or movie will stray too far from its original source material. Which invariably leads to the disappointment of the original fans. I’m extremely excited for this show. I was a bit bummed about the premiere date. Being that I will be out of town on the 17th. But I’m glad I’m a DISH Network employee/subscriber, this made me finally go ahead and get the TV everywhere app set up. Now I can take all my programming, live stuff, DVR recording the works, with me everywhere I go. It’s so cool I wish I had done it sooner. It really is so convenient and now I’ll be watching the premiere on my iPad in my hotel room rather that sitting around wondering what I was missing and having to wait.
I really like how Eddard swings Ice. They did a great job of showing the arm movements required to wield a 2-handed greatsword. Ice is extremely heavy, not exactly a battlefield w eapon, So excited for both the show and Dance of Dragons the new TV show on April.
Game of thrones is, probably, the best TV serie that I've ever seen. It's raw and real like none, and reflects the European Middle Age (althought was fantastic, not historic) in all over its dimension. The characters and the script have an incredible depth. Perhaps, the sex scenes and explicit violence are too frequent.
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What fantasy-based show would that be, sir? Something off Shadowrun, D&D, or something new? I'm with you, though - we need GOOD fantasy on TV.
If you haven't read KJ Parker, you need to; seems like entirely your kind of thing. Start with Devices and Desires. Parker's only trouble is that it seems difficult to actually get a hold of her books.
My latest favorites are The First Law Trilogy, by Joe Abercrombie. I'm slowly making my way through Best Served Cold, the one-tenth-sequel-nine-tenths-stand-alone set on a different continent.
My all-time favorites are probably the Acts of Caine by Matthew Stover, which he's hoping/trying to adapt into a comic book: http://www.overworld.tv
Favourite fantasy novel? My favourite series are: The Malazan Book of the Fallen series by Steven Erikson and the Vlad Taltos novels by Steven Brust
And I just noticed that you said you're adapting Locke Lamora. YES.
After 30 years, I'm still reading - and loving - the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, The Unbeliever by Stephen R Donaldson. The recent series has been positively sublime! There is only one book left to go - The Last Dark, ETA 2013. Oh, and the author has been responding to fan questions for the past few years in what he calls a "Gradual Interview" on his website.
http://www.stephenrdonaldson.com/fromtheauthor/gi.php
If Game of Thrones is a success, I'll consider it the perfect time to pitch my idea for a comedic drama set at an all-ork private school.
I plan to call it Uruk-High.
@FatherDog You win. All of it.
This is more urban fantasy, but Laura Anne Gilman's Retrievers series (To Catch a Magical Thief) and her new Paranormal Scene Investigations series (a group of misfits invent CSI for a half-hidden magical community) are my current favorites.
The magical and political systems are well-thought out and both logical and complex. And there isn't a cardboard character in the bunch. The team dynamics in Hard Magic rival Leverage - that, by the way, is one of the biggest compliments I can give.
Someone needs to take a look at these novels - of course, the Dresden Files tanked, so is there any hope for any urban fantiasy television?
@Kris I was making a joke about LEVERAGE, I'm not doing Locke Lamora.
Been while since I read them, and I still have to read the third one - I'm kinda hung up in another book right now, and I refuse to leave another one unfinished - but currently my fave is the Night Angel trilogy by Brent Weeks.
And the one I'm stuck in is part three of the Farseer trilogy, I seem to be on an assassin trip.
I'd love to see an adaptation of Glen Cook's Black Company books. Military fantasy; magic, monsters, battles, falls from grace, redemption, betrayal, and that's just in the first book.
There's even multiple love interests already baked into the story, so no need to ruin a good plot by trying to stitch one in.
Since I've just finished reading book 4 of Charlie Stross' Merchant Princes series, I'm going to go ahead and say, make that a TV show, please! It's got your medieval fantasy, your steampunk, politics in 3 different worlds/time periods, intrigue, and spooks all running around chasing rogue nukes/worldwalking narcogangs. There's something int here for everyone, including some romance, badass female warriors and a clear description of economics and modern politics. The only flaw is that the characters are a little thin but some talented actors, over say 6 seasons, could really flesh out those sketches into real people.
I have to agree with Kris; Matt Stover's Caine novels are probably my all-time favorite.
(I don't read much fantasy, unfortunately—I tend towards the SF spectrum. So I hope y'all give me some good recommendations. ;))
So, uh, those of us (at least one of us) who are currently studying (procrastinating) in countries where they talk funny can't see that video... is there an officially sanctioned alternative that wouldn't get the copy-police mad at us?
Update - the embed still won't load, but the video at the link does, and it looks awesome. I know what I'll be reading once I get this stupid degree done...
Word verification - conte - holy cow, it's an actual word! In French, sure, but still!
Favorite fantasy series is LotR with Katherine Kerr's Deverry series running a close second, and I don't want to see TV shows of either one, please.
But I quite liked Wizards and Warriors when it was on the air back in the early 80s, though. All eight wonderful episodes. (No doubt it helped that I was 14.)
I suppose one can quibble over "fantasy" vs. "alt-history," but setting aside LotR and the Song of Ice & Fire series, one of my favorite fantasy books has got to be Jonathan Strange and Mister Norrell by Susanna Clarke. Pretty dense and a bit slow to start, but once you get to the war, it's just fantastic. Wonderful details abound.
Latest favorite is the Shadowmarch tri^H^H^Htetralogy from Tad Williams. Waiting for the last volume to show up in my local public library's collection...
Most recent fave fantasy novel was definitely The Magicians by Lev Grossman. Besides being an interesting piece of world building and some solid metafiction, it was simply the book I enjoyed the most last year.
And I'm about to start, and have high hopes for, Ink and Steel by Elizabeth Bear.
My favorite fantasy series of all time is the Deryni series by Katherine Kurtz. Especially the original trilogy. (Something that I think would translate really well to film/TV). Favorite single book is The Sword of Shannara by Terry Brooks. I'm not a fan of the more recent Shannara books and nothing has really caught my eye recently.
I've always wanted to see CJ Cherryh's Morgaine novels televised. Great characters, awesome visuals (stargates, swords, horses, time travel, aliens), cool SF-ish premise leading to swords-and-sorcery kinds of stories.
I'd love to see Moorecock's Elric of Melnibone adapted as a long-format anime/anime-style series (either from one of the better Japanese studios, or Peter Chung).
(... or as a three-to-six-hour animated rock opera epic. That would be amazing. but would so totally tank.)
For live-action -- Keith's dead-on. Stross' Merchant Princes series has it all. Modern Urban, Fantastic Medieval, and STEAMPUNK, all in their own seperate worlds.
does Steampunk count?
Leviathan/Behemoth by Scott Westerfeld. It's a young adult series, steampunk and genetic engineering.
The Temeraire series by Naomi Novik. Got intelligent talking dragons.
The Parasol Protectorate series, starting with Soulless, by Gail Carriger. Vampires, werewolves, ghosts, and the titular soulless fiery heroine.
...Well color me stupid. I just remember hearing that it'd been optioned at some point, so I assumed. Should've read the rest of that tweet...
Riddle Master of Hed - P. McKillip
Terry Pratchett's Discworld (30+ and counting)
Six quirky medieval novels by Judith Merkle Riley
Butcher's Dresden
And the best, best, best:
The Chalion Trilogy (hopefully eventually to be five); The Sharing Knife Four; and the Vorkosigan series (that starts with two novels about our hero's MOTHER!!!) by the incomparable Lois McMaster Bujold.
My absolute favourite fantasy novel, given I'm a huge fan of the genre? (I'm currently making what looks like it might end up being my second feature film in fantasyland.)
Dog Wizard, by the criminally underrated Barbara Hambly. A brilliantly realised historical world with a rock-solid and unique magical culture, and quite the most wonderful plot and characterisation. The villain - and I won't spoiler - is, as far as I'm aware, pretty much unique in fantasy fiction.
If that were to be made into a film or series, I'd - probably actually be on tenterhooks waiting to find out if whoever made it had actually gotten it.
(Much like Game of Thrones...)
The Name of the Wind by Patrick Rothfuss is hands down my all time favorite.
I apologize for not naming my latest favorite fantasy novel while I was complaining about the video embed not working. I'm shocked that nobody's mentioned The Name of the Wind, by Patrick Rothfuss, because it is FANTASTIC. It is the only English language novel I brought with me this year, and as soon as I get out ahead of my homework again, I'm going to continue re-reading it... so, you know, in June.
I also got introduced to the Vorkosigan saga quite recently, and it's amazing as well, but I'd call it sci-fi.
Spellwright by Blake Charlton is awesome
Ooo fantasy novel recommendations:
Wonderfully light, fun reads: Robert Aspirin's Myth series
Great turn at the hero cycle: David Eddings' Belgariad or Sparhawk series'
Bit dark and more mystery with some magic tossed in: Jim Butcher's Dresden Files. (made into a series that was criminally not renewed)
And I'm not ashamed to admit I love JK Rowling's Harry Potter books.
Oh, man, I thought I'd given up on this kind of thing.
I mean, how often does an adaptation come out even halfway decent? SyFy has managed to utterly ruin some beloved sf/fantasy series (Earthsea, Riverworld).
Better to enjoy your favorite books as books. They don't NEED the validation of being filmed. Or taped. Or, ah, captured. Or rendered.
But that said . . . I'll second the notion of adapting Stross' Merchant Families novels. Wouldn't be a budget-buster.
Umm, I'm not suggesting it be adapted, but I REALLY loved Patrick Rothfus' Name of the Wind. Just wonderful.
"Later, when black night lay across the forest, he would seek through his books for spells to guard him through the unpredictable glades. They would be poignant corrosive spells, of such a nature that one would daunt the brain of an ordinary man and two render him mad. Mazirian, by dint of stringent exercise, could encompass four of the most formidable, or six of the lesser spells…. Mazirian made a selection from his books and with great effort forced five spells upon his brain: Phandaal’s Gyrator, Felojun’s Second Hypnotic Spell, The Excellent Prismatic Spray, The Charm of Untiring Nourishment, and the Spell of the Omnipotent Sphere."
From The Dying Earth by Jack Vance
The D and D magic system is based on Jack Vance's stories found in the Dying Earth and the novel the Eyes of the Overworld. Although he's bare-bones in his depictions, you can find reference to spells like the Prismatic Spray and the Forlorn Encistment and a narrative description of the very gruesome, Phandaal's Gyrator.
A journalist once commented on a flaw in the Harry Potter series regarding magic. The spells in HP come at no cost to the user. In the D and D system, you forget each spell cast and must struggle to learn another. Moreover, you can wither your body away by casting permanent spells. Finally there's a rigid distinction between spells types of magic users ad clerics who call on the powers of the gods. I think the system rooted in Vance's story universe would be easy to dramatize, but getting permission to use those elements might be a nightmare.
I don't know about the latest fave, but I was always partial to the Alan Dean Foster "Spellsinger" books. It's like D&D meets Glee!
Some exec would probably greenlight that pitch.
@Kris I was making a joke about LEVERAGE, I'm not doing Locke Lamora.
Maybe you *should* do Locke Lamora. Locke is awesome. I'm a little giddy about the next book finally coming out. I'd be pretty excited about it if you adapted it, too.
Another vote for The Merchant Princes series by Charles Stross. Would make a brilliant long-form TV series -- magic, time/dimension travel, medieval fantasy, steampunk, linked to the present day, military thriller, costume drama, even royalist romantic adventure. Something definitely for all... and it could do so much over a number of seasons.
I don't read much fantasy. But _Bridge of Birds_ by Barry Hughart was amazing.
And any "Magic as serious stuff" show needs to pay some homage to "Magic, Inc." by Robert A. Heinlein.
Ditto on "Bridge of Birds" by Hughart. It's one of the most astonishingly beautiful, revelatory and hilarious fantasy stories I've ever read. And nigh-on-immune to adaptation.
But! for epic trilogy craziness, I love Tad Williams' "Dragonbone Chair" - the trilogy was called Memory, Sorrow, Thorn, I think. Gotta give some love to the Riftwar books by Ray Feist too. Excellent adaptation of The War of the Roses into fantasy form.
"And I just noticed that you said you're adapting Locke Lamora. YES."
No! RLY? Squeeeee...............!
*ahem*
What I mean is, can't wait.
I would have to say my all time favorite fantasy series is The Legend of the Guardian-King series by Karen Hancock.
Latest faves: Finch by Jeff Vandermeer; A Madness of Angels by Kate Griffin; and White Cat by Holly Black.
I'd have to give another vote to Bujold's books. The Chalion books are excellent. Detailed and consistent world, interesting plot, good pacing.
The sharing knife books are good, but do suffer a bit due to being structured as a romance first, fantasy second. The fantasy world's central conflict is inherently unresolvable, and the conclusion just doesn't have enough meat on it to satisfy (but then, if you're talking TV series, that might just lead into further seasons....)
The Vorkossigan books are also excellent, and personal favorites, but are disqualified from this discussion due to being Science Fiction.
I've been following this discussion and noting down the many suggestions I haven't heard of (my local library system probably can find a lot of 'em) and being pleased at the mentions of a lot of stuff I already like (especially Hambly, but also Stross, Abercrombie, Novik, Rothfuss, Hughart...).
But just a second! Lesley, do you mean to say that the third Locke Lamora book is actually on the way? Honest and for true? Geez, I didn't think he'd ever write it.
The Rose of the Prophet series by Weis/Hickman (yes, them) ;o)
I have read those books hundreds of times - they are my 'go to' when I need to read. Absolutely wonderful
I know it'll never happen, but I wish that the Harry Potter books could have been done as a TV series rather than movies. Even if they would have been typical British length (half a dozen episodes per year), we still would have gotten more of the story then the movies gave us.
And really, that's what I prefer in adaptations. I'd rather watch a TV series adaptation than a Movie adaptation, especially of novel-length stories, since there's more storytelling time available and less of the story would need to be cut.
As for actual fantasy novels/series I'd love to see given a TV adaptation?
Dies the Fire/The Protector's War/The Meeting at Corvalis by S.M. Stirling. It's a post-apocalyptic fantasy series (low magic).
I'd love to see The Dragonriders of Pern (yes, technically science fiction, but that needn't come up until later, if ever) by Anne McCaffery as a TV series (the dragons would be fairly easy to CGI given today's technology).
I'm sure there's a Dungeons and Dragons based book series that would work well as a TV series (it would have to be inoffensive enough to not offend too many of the crazies). Perhaps one of the Forgotten Realms or Dragonlance books (though I'd love to seen an Eberron based series, it ain't ever going to happen).
Unfortunately, I'm more of a Sci-fi nerd, at least lately.
What books can do very well that visual media do not do very well is show what is going on inside a character's head. It is because of this reason that many of the best works are essentially, un-filmable.
How about the Charles Stross 'Laundry' series-- Atrocity Archives, Jennifer Morgue, etc.
They'd make fantastic movies--John Le Carre and/or James Bond meets the Cthulhu mythos!
(No, really, he makes it work.)
Classic favorite novel: Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Recently read favorite novel: Tigana by Guy Gavriel Kay
Favorite series: Riddle-Master of Hed by Patricia McKillip
Oh, yeah, speaking of assassins (as someone was), Steven Brust's Vlad Taltos books. Also his Phoenix Guards series, with the homage to Dumas.
You should share about this fantasy television show, methinks.
And at this *very second*, my favourite's the Fionvar Tapestry
The Elemental Logic series by Laurie Marks is excellent. And another vote for Vlad Taltos and Temeraire.
Jim Butcher's Dresden Files is my favorite urban fantasy, but that has been done already. I love Rob Thurman's Cal Leandros series, Kim Harrison's Underlanders series, and Mike Carey's fabulous Felix Castor series. I'm also very partial to Tanya Huff, who writes in several fantasy subgenres, and Robin Hobb, who writes more traditional fantasy.
A third vote for Bujold's Chalion books -- heroic medieval fastasy for people who don't like heroic medieval fantasy. The world is based fairly closely on 15th-century Spain, with limited paranormal stuff and a really interesting alternate religion. I haven't reread The Curse of Chalion in a few years, but I just now realized who was reminding me of its hero -- the historical Thomas Cromwell of Hilary Mantel's Wolf Hall.
I'd forgotten Barbara Hambly, but I enjoyed several of her books when they were SF Book Club entries in the 80's. She was also the author of what has to be the all-time best Star Trek/Here Come The Brides mashup novel, called Ishmael. (Inspired by the fact that Mark Lenard was in both series.)
WV: "havides", as in the sentence "In Rome, all months havides."
My favorites are by far the Sword of Truth series by Goodkind. Though I watched the show because it was well cast, whoever decided to go so far off the books should be shot. There are what? 12 books and they couldn't even stick to the story through the first season? It was like watching fanfiction based on the books. Also the fact that they completely changed the world drove me nutty. I'm with whoever said HP should have been made into British mini-series. That would have been awesome!
Garth Nix's Abhorsen trilogy and the Princess Bride, which somehow is even funnier than the film, thanks to the increased length and omniscient narrator.
Jim Butcher and I go way back (he introduced me to my wife on an Amber MUSH, before any of us were remotely famous) and I'm only just now reading his excellent Codex Alera series. It's the Lost Legion meets Pokemon! Can't get better than that.
I have to second Abercrombie's First Law books. That's one series I would love to adapt to RPG, though really it's essentially Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. Joe's another big gamer-turned-bestselling-author.
I adore Jim Buther's Dresden Files and I worship at the alter of Terry Pratchett.
However, my current favorite is Jim Hines' Princess Series. It is Charlie's Angels meets Grimm's Fairy Tale Princesses. I love it for being possibly the first series where the women are awesome on their own, and the first book has "Cinderella" on a quest to go and save her prince.
Also, "Sleeping Beauty" uses her fairy gifts to pretty much be made of pure kick-you-in-the-face and
"Snow White" is a witch of epic proportions.
The books he has out so far are an obscenely easy read, but he has complex characters and women that kick ass while not necessarily doing so in a "rawr we hate men" way.
Sentimental favorites are Harry Potter by Rowling and the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series by Rick Riordan.
The Percy books are so much better than the movie and they are so well written. I binged on the series and got done in a week.
I want to see Jim Butcher's Dresden series, F Paul Wilson's Repairman Jack, and Nancy Collins' Sonja Blue. Any of those done well would be awesome.
Actually any non-vampire specific urban fantasy would be awesome.
Speaking of Barbara Hambly, she has my favorite title: Bride of the Rat God. Set in 1920s Hollywood, so not your typical fantasy novel.
Bride of the Rat God was one of her best, I think. Although I like almost everything she's written. Apparently she's got the idea for a sequel to BotRG called Curse of the Swamp Monster but she's probably never going to write it.
I don't think it's been mentioned yet.
I do like Butcher and Brust and Hughart.
But my favorite fantasy story of all time is the Guardians of the Flame series by Joel Rosenberg.
It too would make a great mini-series.
The single greatest fantasy book every* is Lud in the Mist by hope Mirrlees. It was written in the 1920s and I sometimes imagine a world where all the derivative fantasy novels written between the 1960s and the 1980s were inspired by this book instead of Lord of the Rings. It's epic, beautiful, funny and wonderfully eerily magical.
Michael Swanwick's The Iron Dragon's Daughter and The Dragon's of Bable are pretty damn good as well.
*There may be traces of hyperbole here
This is the one I have been waiting for ever since the first book. And looking at the cast list (Sean=Ned) I CANNOT wait.
I just wish GRRM would finally get done with the next one!
If this series works, there will be years of enjoyment to look forward to! :-)
However, if someone would take on Tad Williams and my beloved Simon, it would probably come a close second...
I enjoyed the Bartimaeus books, Artemis Fowl, Harry Potter, the Inheritance series, etc. as much as (if not more than) my children did.
Favorite series from many years past: the Darkover novels by Marion Zimmer Bradley and the Dragonriders of Pern series by Anne McCaffrey.
Also enjoyed The Fionavar Tapestry.
I neglected to mention the Enchanted Inc. series by Shanna Swendson. It is Sex in the City meets Harry Potter. That would make a great television series.
I have to second the Stephen Donaldson Books - the Covenant series previously, and also his 'Man Rides Through' fantasy duology.
I must admit, however, that this author is so good (nobody else keeps me up all night, gasping and laughing out loud,) he has spoiled me from reading most other fantasy novels. People keep recommending books to me, but sadly they keep falling up short.
Hopefully I'll find at least one suggestion from this list to sate my appetite for reading great fantasy!
The Orphan's Tales books by Catherynne Valente ('The Orphan's Tales: In the Night Garden' and 'The Orphan's Tales: In the Cities of Coin and Spice') are insanely beautiful.
It's about a girl who lives in the garden of a palace telling the stories she has tattooed on her eyes to the son of the Sultan. There are stories within stories like those Russian nesting dolls and each one is a piece of a puzzle that all comes together to form this amazing, lush picture of a whole unique world. So gorgeous.
You can read some excerpts here.
The Skulduggery Pleasant series would be fun.
I can't believe no one has mentioned Mercedes Lackey? Her work is amazing, especially the Heralds of Valdemar-series.
Elizabeth Moon has finally continued her Paksenarrion Saga, and she only gets better.
The best single novel ever written is "Good Omens" by Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman. But that's not really fantasy, or is it? ;-)
Any comments on Moore's "new" police procedural (Which has been described as NYPD Blue with wizards)?
Elizabeth Moon has finally continued her Paksenarrion Saga
Woo hoo! I consider the Paksenarrion saga required reading for anyone who plays a paladin. (That's a D&D reference for those of you who don't play.)
PhantomMinuet, I don't care that Dresden has been done before. It needs to be done as an extended miniseries with Paul Blackthorne returning as Harry, James Marsters as Thomas, Christina Ricci as Karin, and Tom Berenger as Michael.
I think the deryni series would be awesome, as well as the belgariad.
I hesitate to make suggestions because tv seldom does fantasy or s/f well. However, my favorites are: The Amber novels of Zelazny, as well as LORD OF LIGHT. The Taltos novels by Steven Brust. Barbara Hambly has several series that I'd like to see done right, but mostly the Darwath ones. Bujold's Chalion universe is terrific. Joel Rosenberg has three fantasy universes that I'm aware of but I think D'SHAI would translate best. Oh, and THE ANUBIS GATES by Tim Powers. I suppose, circling back to Zelazny, that what I'd most like to see done is CREATURES OF LIGHT AND DARKNESS.
My favorite that hasn't been adapted yet? Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell. I didn't know if it was already in the works, so I headed over to IMDb to cheack it out. A search for the title got a closest match with a foreign film called "Vampiros Lesbos." Yeah, but no.
Since "Strange" is essentially a Regency costume drama with Gormenghast overtones, I assume that the BBC will be all over it some day.
Anything by Martha Wells. I love that she started with a swashbuckling world and then thought through how magic would evolve through an Age of Enlightenment and an industrial revolution.
Her other worlds are all great, too.
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Brandon Sanderson has been my hands down favorite for some time. His newest 'The Way of Kings' is unbelievably well done. His world building us second to none. His mistborn trilogy, which, coinicdently involves s band of thieves and con artists fighting for the greater good, is amazing. I've never seen magic systems like the ones he builds, nevermind the depth of history he puts his work. and it's history as history is, written by the victor...
Which also reminds me of Micael A Stackpole and his works. He's another author that really brings his worlds and characters to life using history and peoples interpritarons on that history.
I'd love to see a Dresden flick at some point, despite how the series was received. Hell, the way Syyyfyyy is doing their current set of original series, why not give Dresden a belated second season, especially with as many additions to the Dresdenverse as have been made since then.
As far as adaptability goes, I just started reading Cameron Haley's "Mob Rules", and I could definitely see it being worth watching on the small screen.
based on this post, I borrowed The Family Trade by Stross and finished it in one evening.
I'd like to say thank you all for your suggestions. I'd read a lot of these before but the ones I hadn't were incredibly good.
The comments section in this post and the previous one about Harry Connolly book are a gold mine.
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I've been reading the most recent Wheel of Time book, Towers of Midnight. I was so worried when Robert Jordan died that the series would never be finished but Brandon Sanderson has stepped in and done phenomenally. Hell, there are moments I think he does a better job than Jordan did.
My favorite fantasy series has to be The Death Gate Cycle by Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman. I always recommend them.
I still haven't been able to get through the last GRRM book, A Feast for Crows. It just seems completely different from the rest of the series and I struggled about a third of the way to half way through and put it down. I've been thinking of skipping it all together. Is it worth it to try to muddle through it?
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I just had the biggest nerdgasm ever.
roger Zelazney's Amber books would be an amazing series at the rate of say three 42 minute episodes per book, but the series that screams to be made into TV show is Spider Robinson's Callahan's place short stories.
Also, too - If someone would just make Stranger in a Strange Land with a screenplay that is faithful to the novel into a big budget movie, I could discorporate a happy man
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roger Zelazney's Amber books would be an amazing series
No matter how many times I read it, I can't remember what happens. The story just slides right out of my brain.
To the Dresden Files cancellation bemoaners....
Could you teach me your technique for self delusion?
Yes, it wasn't renewed. It also wasn't very good. And other than character names, it bore little resemblance to the books.
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Steven Brust's Taltos series, starting with Jhereg. My all-time favorite series hands down, these ought to be made into something, preferably with a nice V/O to give you all of Vlad's snarkiness. There's a new book out in a few months, and when it arrives, I am completely busy until I finish it. Seriously, food, drink, sleep... all of these things are out.
Fred Saberhagen's Book of Swords series should also be on that list. Marvelous stuff.
I'll also second the vote for Zelazny's Amber books, although only the front half. The back half gets a little wonky.
And why, oh why, has no one tried to make a series based on Spider Robinson's "Callahan's Crosstime Saloon" books yet? It's practically BEGGING to be adapted.
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Years of Rice and Salt, Kim Stanley Robinson
Wow! I am excited with it too.
Adding a vote to see the Steven Brust Taltos novels adapted! Gripping, suspenseful, deeper than it seems at first, and wonderfully snarky...
Agreed that seeing the Callahan's stories by Spider Robinson on screen is long overdue.
Recent enthusiasms? Name of the Wind (glorious, by Patrick Rothfuss) and Clockwork Heart (intricate and unique steampunkish caste society, by Dru Pagliassotti).
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Well since you asked, Guy Gavriel Kay is my all-time favorite fantasy author. Tigana, The Last Light of the Sun, The Sarantine Mosaic, I could go on and on but I’d pretty much just make a list of his complete works. That being said George R.R. Martin is up there on my list as well as Robert Jordan and of course JRR Tolkien.
It’s great that Martin is on board for the production of this, too often a lack of involvement from the original creator seems to mean that the show or movie will stray too far from its original source material. Which invariably leads to the disappointment of the original fans. I’m extremely excited for this show. I was a bit bummed about the premiere date. Being that I will be out of town on the 17th. But I’m glad I’m a DISH Network employee/subscriber, this made me finally go ahead and get the TV everywhere app set up. Now I can take all my programming, live stuff, DVR recording the works, with me everywhere I go. It’s so cool I wish I had done it sooner. It really is so convenient and now I’ll be watching the premiere on my iPad in my hotel room rather that sitting around wondering what I was missing and having to wait.
I really like how Eddard swings Ice. They did a great job of showing the arm movements required to wield a 2-handed greatsword. Ice is extremely heavy, not exactly a battlefield w eapon, So excited for both the show and Dance of Dragons the new TV show on April.
Game of thrones is, probably, the best TV serie that I've ever seen.
It's raw and real like none, and reflects the European Middle Age (althought was fantastic, not historic) in all over its dimension.
The characters and the script have an incredible depth.
Perhaps, the sex scenes and explicit violence are too frequent.
One of the series mas spectacular of last years. I hope that the movie follows the same stela.
A series that has me really caught. I want to see mas. insurance it turns into the classic one.
Ilona Andrews. Magic Bites, etc. I love the mix of magic and technology, and a very different kind of vampire.
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Sekitar Vagina Tumbuh Daging, Berbahayakah? Kutil Pada Kepala Penis mirip bunga kol atau jengger ayam, Merupakan Penyakit Yang diakibatkan Oleh Virus.Kutil kelamin, atau disebut juga condyloma acuminata, adalah kutil atau daging berwarna kulit atau keabuan yang tumbuh di sekitar alat kelamin dan
penyakit yang ditularkan melalui hubungan seks : vaginal, oral dan anal. Juga dapat menular melalui persentuhan kulit dengan daerah yang terinfeksi.
Obat Ambeien Resep Dokter Ambeclear dari De Nature Ampuh Tuntaskan Ambeien Sampai Tuntas
Sebelum kita membahas tentang pengobatan ambeien, dalam kesempatan ini
saya ingin menjelaskan sekilas tentang ambeien, agar kita semua bisa
memahami benar apa itu penyakit ambeien
Bismillahirrohmannirrokhim ......................................
Bismillahhirrohmaanirrokhim.... ************************************
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MANTAB???????????????????????????????
Obat kutil kelamin
Cara mengobati kutil kelamin
Obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat sipilis
Obat wasir
Obat kutil kelamin tradisional
Obat kutil kelamin
Obat kutil kelamin wanita
Obat kutil kelamin di apotik
Obat kutil kelamin untuk ibu hamil
Obat kutil kelamin untuk wanita
Obat kutil kelamin mujarab
Obat kutil kelamin di anus
Obat kutil kelamin/jengger ayam
Obat kutil kelamin paling murah
Obat sipilis Yang manjur
obat sipilis denature indonesia
Obat sipilis resep dokter
Obat sipilis paling manjur
Obat sipilis pada wanita
Obat sipilis paling ampuh
Obat sipilis manjur
Obat sipilis atau raja singa
Obat wasir
Obat wasir berdarah
Obat wasir tradisional
Obat wasir ampuh
Obat wasir ampuh tanpa operasi
obat herpes kelamin
manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur manjur
Wasir atau dikenal juga dengan ambeien merupakan salah satu jenis penyakit
Wasir atau dikenal juga dengan ambeien merupakan salah satu jenis penyakit
yang sangat mengganggu. Ambeien atau wasir ini muncul..
yang sangat mengganggu. Ambeien atau wasir ini muncul..
Obat Kencing Nanah
Obat Sipilis
Obat Herbal Kutil Kelamin
Obat Kencing Nanah Manjur
Obat Kencing Nanah Paling Ampuh
Obat Kencing Nanah Pria
Obat Kencing Nanah Wanita
Obat Kencing Nanah Alami
Obat Kencing Nanah Ibu Hamil
Obat Kencing Nanah Di Apotik
Obat Kencing Nanah 3 Hari Sembuh
Penyakit Kencing Nanah
Penyakit Kencing Nanah Pria
Penyakit Kencing Nanah Wanita
Penyakit Kencing Nanah Ibu Hamil
Gejala Penyakit Kencing Nanah
Gejala Penyakit Kencing Nanah Pria
Gejala Penyakit Kencing Nanah Wanita
Gejala Penyakit Kencing Nanah Ibu Hamil
Ciri Ciri Penyakit Kencing Nanah
Ciri Ciri Penyakit Kencing Nanah Pria
Ciri Ciri Penyakit Kencing Nanah Wanita
Ciri Ciri Penyakit Kencing Nanah Ibu Hamil
Tanda Tanda Penyakit Kencing Nanah
Tanda Tanda Penyakit Kencing Nanah Pria
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