Wednesday, September 01, 2010

LEVERAGE #308 "The Boost Job" Post-Game

Before we start, I'd like to note that the snark levels are getting a little spiky in the Comments. Keep it even, people.

This episode was actually written fairly early in the season. Albert Kim came in with the story of how stolen cars are being cloned and stolen interstate, along with a ton of research about car theft rings. It was a great Leverage pitch. Clear bad guy plot set in an interesting location with naturally dangerous threats. We'd actually scouted the speedway the year before, and had it up on the board in the "To Do" column of cards. Once written, though, its scope demanded that it be moved back, to where we'd built up a little safety room before tackling something this big.

Every writer breaks story different ways. Downey has the high concept premise in his head. I pitch plot. Boylan comes at it purely from charactery goodness. Veach also likes high-concept, while Geoff comes at it almost from a wish-fulfillment "what would be fin to watch the Leverage team do?". The Wonder Twins and Albert are both research hounds. Both pitch up so much solid info about the real-life crimes that story and character fall out of reality. It's worth noting these different styles because it's worth reinforcing that there is no one right way to break a story (except mine) or be a television writer. Know your toolbox. Work to expand it. But at the end of the day, as my grandfather said -- "A man's got to know his swing."

This story allowed us to homage our favorite Rockford Files episode "Never Send a Boy King to Do A Man's Job." This one is the ur-Rockford. Richie Brocklemaan. Rockford saying "I'm not going to get involved"... and then laying out the whole con in a "if you were gonna do it" scene. Multiple long cons, shady characters from Rockford's past, Downey's favorite scene -- the "audition" of con men, like a casting call -- and the infamous "Get Hittite pot" on Rockford's "con to-do" list.

He has a to-do list. It's hilarious.

And Rockford hooks the bad guy by out-racing him. Seriously, all that's missing is the silver racing suit.

We were very pleased to have Bill Engvall for a bad guy. We'd been talking about having him on for ages, and his schedule finally worked out for us on this episode. I used to do stand-up with Bill back in the day -- never hung together, but bumped into each other often enough that we recognized each other at the upfronts. There, among the professionally pretty people and powerbrokers in suits, I asked him "You ever think you'd be standing here?" He shook his head and said "No way." He's a good, honest, hard-working funny son of a bitch. Pleasure to see him doing so well, and beginning to stretch into one hours. I think his performance on Leverage shows he's going to have a great career doing dramas.

Also ridiculously lucky to have Malese Jow. Because I am a cranky forty-year old, I had no idea who she was. On the first day of dailies, I emailed Albert and said "Good GOD, does she have a development deal?" He then had to explain to me that Malese was ridiculously famous and was doing far better in her career than I ever will. Ah, obsolescence, I welcome your sweet embrace.

The EMP car-killer is, of course a lot bigger than what we built, but it's real enough. As are the "cheat codes" and about 90% of the tech we throw around in this one. It really is amazing how little we know about cars now, and how high-tech they are.

This is also one of the places where we establish the limits of the earbuds. Not that the limits are consistent, of course, but that sometimes they don't work. They were getting a little too reliable, and we really need to make sure not everything works for the team all the time.

Other than that it was a pretty straight-up Leverage episode. Oh, and Hutton really drove the racecar. And Kane did his own car hit. So other than the cast trying to kill me with stress, very ordinary episode. Let's jump into the questions.

@Jennifer: Was the Shelby Cobra on tonight's episode an original or a kit built?

Kit built, but for legal reasons we couldn't name it in the episode. Which meant we had to come up with another name; we chose "Veronica". In theory that was a pain in the ass, but serendipitously led to one of the best jokes of the night: "Who knew Betty was the fast one?" Always something good in the barrel.

@Anonymous: My question - what are we seeing exactly between Parker and the teen - mentor, older sister, seeing "herself"?

Seeing herself, and acting on her nascent sense of family. Hell, five years ago she probably wouldn't have been self aware enough to see the resemblance.

@Sherri: What's with the humanizing of Parker? Seriously, I love the development, but it's playing with my head.

I think it's just the natural reaction to having people in her life that care about her. Don't worry, she'll never be quite right.

@Anonymous: Have we ever seen Eliot kill someone? I don't really recall we did, but it seems like we are going to, real soon.

No, you have not seen him kill anyone while working with the Leverage team. Yet. Considering his headspace, they would have to be in real, real trouble before he'd kill anyone again.

Very, very bad trouble.

@Andy: "They hit me with a car!" If I remember my Venture Brothers dialog correctly, there was a line from the first episode (not pilot) that went, "They hit me with A TRUCK!" Has Eliot entered Brock Sampson levels of resilience?

He is the Leverage-verse Brock Samson.

@Whimseyrhodes: when Eliot zapped the cars on the big rig, how did he avoid hitting the rig itself? Are we to assume it was a very-super-ultra-uber localized beam like a bullet, and wouldn't stray from it's trajectory?

It is indeed a tight linear beam, just like the real one.

@Rick: The EMP Cannon; Ledger or Black Box?

See above.

@Oona: 1.) Nate has been fairly easy on Parker, both in the Inside Job and here, when she made rash decisions that turned out badly. Is Parker sort of the "favored" baby of the family to him or is he just feeling the most protective of her because he knows she (seemingly) has had the toughest time of it or something else? The ending with the big dinner was awesome - such a nice throwback to the Wedding Job. 2.) Was that scene fully scripted or did the cast just riff?

I don't think he's gone easy on her. I think being a good manager is knowing when to let the horse run. And he is much, much more cognizant of his own failings this year than last. 2.) As Albert notes in his Twitter feed, the final scene was a Gina pitch. We're now at the point where the actors have very canny senses of who these people are and what we need to see them do. Making the show is far more interesting at this point in a show's arc.

@Bethia: At the beginnning, the guy in the truck was said to be a school teacher on the "newscast". At the end, Nate said something about the client's landscaping business. I'm confused. Thanks!

He does landscaping part-time to pay the bills, as we criminally underpay our schoolteachers. The victim was named Mantlo, btw, after ROM writer Bill Mantlo. We have a bit of a ROM thing int he room. I will torture the writer's room for hours with my "Rom-com".

@SueN: 1) Why didn't Eliot zap his truck's system when he zapped the cars? (Oh, and much love for Eliot with a raygun! *g*) 2) The Challenger was Eliot's. So, did he trade in his truck from last season, or does he collect vehicles? (And will he get the Challenger back from Nate? *g*) 3.) For two and a half seasons now, we've heard Eliot bitch and bark at Parker and call her crazy (and tonight threaten to kill her). And, granted, annoyed!Eliot is funny!Eliot. To us. But what about Parker? Does she take his barking and bitching and "there's somethin' wrong with you" seriously, or does she understand that anger is Eliot's particular kind of craziness?

1.) Noted above. 2) He collects vehicles. Which he occasionally gives away, to prove he is not attached to them. 3.) She both takes him literally and interprets him differently than normal people. There is something wrong with her.

Ian: I just wanted to say that the decision to make the EMP gun have the same warm-up sound as the Ghostbusters' proton packs -- and then have Hardison say "this chick is toast" -- was pure genius.

I believe that was our creative post humans riffing off the dialogue line. They're like little comedy elves. We show up for the first cut, and there are the bonus jokes, under the tree, utterly unexpected.

@Marquis: I'd like to ask if the Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A Start for cars really exists but I'm kind of afraid of the answer.

Not quite that combo, but yes, those cheat codes exist.

@Courtney: Gonna take a guess here and say that Eliot has had dive training at some point? I'm starting to wonder if he wasn't a Navy SEAL in another life.

Army boy. But yeah, he can handle himself in a variety of settings.

@MacSTL: One question for now - We have seen the team use the bar much more for the con. We know Hardison owns the building. Did the team work out some special deal with Cora? What is the relationship now?

Cora still owns the bar, but the Leverage team are trusted friends. Family, practically. If no one's using the place, it's theirs to use how they will.

@USRaider: My question is: you probably write at least a half an episode more than what we see on the screen. What are the decisions that go into what actually makes an episode and what happens to the material you don't use?

Good Lord, we're too lazy to do more work than necessary. Now, although we often wind up with more story than we need when breaking an episode, we are writing to a specific production budget, which means a certain number of shooting days and certain number of pages per shooting day. Our scripts run from 50-55 pages, generally. 56 if they're dialogue-heavy. When shooting, we're rarely more than a few minutes long on the first cut.

@USRaider: Noticed that, after the job was finished and Nate and Sophie were discussing Parker's "punishment," when Nate called Parker over, she seemed to have that "revering" look that she had with Archie at the end of "The Inside Job." Does this mean that Parker has accepted Nate as her new tutor or is it more of the familial dynamic that the team has created?

I think it's more that Beth Riesgraf admires Tim Hutton for his magnificent leadership and ... oh, never mind. I think it read more as a reserved attitude, sort of an emotional waiting space you can read a lot into.

@Joe Helfrich: "You can hack anything with a battery, right? ... You now have 1 minute thirty seconds." This is how Parker flirts, isn't it?

The poor boy is doomed.

@LawMonkey: Interesting to see the 360 on the evil duo of evil (plus potential proto-Parker). Was that a first, or did we have a 360 on the 2 Live Crew Job?

... you know what? Great catch. I think that was a first.

@Rebecca: Parker told Eliot she'd been a thief since she was 9. Now we find out she was boosting cars at 12 and was a getaway driver before that (sometime between ages 9 and 12). She was a pickpocket when she met Archie. How old was she when she met up with Archie? We know she lost a brother as a child, will we ever see what happened to her real parents and why she was in the foster system? In the pilot, did she blow up her real parents' home or her foster parents'?

Remember, on Leverage you will never see Wolverine run into the woods in a poncey nightshirt. Or, for those of you who have lives, we will never nail down their backgrounds in one linear narrative. Although I will say those were (one set of) her foster parents she blew up in the pilot, I'm not going to confirm or deny that the boy who died was her real brother or one of her foster brothers.

@Odie: I also enjoyed the final scene with the team eating together. Which leads to questions: 1.) why wasn't Eliot eating? 2.) In scenes like that, where they're all talking at once, or like the one where Nate told Sophie to stall, are their lines scripted, or do they just improvise? 3.) Who hit Eliot with the car?

1.) He had his 500 calories for the day. 2.) It depends. They usually improv when so many of them are talking, it's very hard to script that. 3.) A drunken pensioner who then raced off to hider her sin.

@Moxie: If Hardison's EMP gun was directionalized enough that it could disable the cars without disabling the auto-carrier, how is it that it knocked out Eliot's earbud (which was in the opposite direction)?

The earbuds are more sensitive, and were closer to the gun. EM bleed. If he wore a watch, he would've noticed that it stopped. (And no, he doesn't ever wear a watch.)

@BobRoland: John, First I wanted to thank you both for Leverage and the comic Blue Beetle. I took my son to a comic book store last week (he just caught the bug) and found back issues of the book. I bought them all, and both my son and I loved him. The humanity you brought to the character was refreshing.1.) I recall reading some talk about a live action Blue Beetle show. If there was such a show, would you ever have an interest in writing for Jamie again? 2.) About the episode, I loved it, but I had some concerns about the EMP gun. I get that technology in the Leverage universe is a bit more magical than in ours, but are you worried about having to explain away in future episodes why they just don't use this device on a regular basis? It seems to me that having access to a magic "make electronics not work for a half hour" device would we too easy a way out for many stories.

1.) I'd love to write for Jaime again. We'll see what happens if the show goes forward. 2) The EMP gun has very specific uses -- and you will actually see it again.

@jimbo: Brief question - was Gina saying "nicking" in the script, or her addition? On a similar note, do you have anyone in-house to help with the English slang or is it just Gina?

"Nicking" was in the script, but we've had Sophie use the word before. There's probably a reason she prefers that word. Although our amazing Mary Mac helps with accents, we write the slang and Gina tells us if it's off or not.

@Lily: I've noticed in all the episodes Eliot always gives Parker the fed up look or just the I can't stand you look. Eliot gave Hardison the high five for morale in the last episode so will there ever be a time when he actually supports/tolerates Parker?

He and Parker have a very different, very professional relationship. if anything, he gets along with her better 80% of the time. Watch the pairing scenes when we break them off in episodes. Eliot always feels he has to keep an eye on Hardison. He relies on Parker.

@Nina May: (question about Sophie's rings that is incredibly complex and well though out)

Although Gina has Sophie wear different rings for different personas, I'm not sure it's as codified as you think it is. Kind of a halfway point between the methodology you posit and Gina and Nadine Haders coming up with what feels right for the persona.

@jenks: I know this question should have come with the Inside Job, but we've now met at least one person from everyone's past except Hardison. Is that ever going to happen? (Please say yes. . . )

Season 4

@Katie: I'd like to chime in about when the heck we're going to get to see more of Sophie's background. In my head she's actually a girl from a very small, very poor mid-western town that chose an English accent and a French name to make herself feel more sophisticated. Far fetched I know, but I'm just throwing it out there, would explain a few things, most specifically how well she understands the American high school system. And also it makes me giggle a little. 1.) But for serious, when do we get to see her background story? 2.) Will we ever get to see more flashbacks of Nate chasing the team. If my memory serves we've only seen him actually chasing/catching Sophie, but it could be fun to see more of their past that led them together.

1.) You got big hints of it in "The King George Job" as you know know. And she is, indeed, British. 2.) I think "Rashomon" counts, but we'll see what else comes up in S4.

@babysmoke: Come to think of it, maybe I do have a question for Mr. Rogers. Has a crossover ever been tabled or carded for future shows/seasons? If yes, which shows have been tossed around?

Well, the main problem is that all the other shows on TNT are made by giant studios, who may or may not want to play nice with our little indie studio, by which I mean the crazy guy financing the show. But yes, we've discussed it, and I'm not going to name names because I don't want to queer the deal if we try to do one for S4.

@Katie: One more question, how much of Nate and Sophie's stalling fight (kneeing him was brilliant btw) was Sophie legitimately being pissed at him and airing her grievances while she had the chance? The comments about him being drunk and her paying made me think she was being serious. And what's with Sophie being violent with Nate lately? There's been a couple slaps and now a junk-shot. Oh, and was Sophie honestly pissed about him slapping her ass? Did Nate do it just to cop a feel? He seemed pretty unashamed about it...

Sophie works Method.

@Sullivan: Your twitter tease re. the "Saint" story is tantalizing. But, now I'm wondering if I can reread all of my Saint collection before the finale airs. Do you realize that there were over a hundred "Saint" stories? So can you narrow it down a bit? Was it post-Patricia Holm? Pre- or post-WW2? Was Teal or Fernack involved? Please don't keep us in suspense forever - as the bishop said to the actress.

For those who don't know, I mentioned on Twitter that my half of the season finale is inspired by an old Simon Templar story -- hell, I think you can point to the Saint as a direct influence on the birth of Leverage. I will say the story is from later in the series.

@Dawn?StL-MO" Has there ever been a scene you wrote that ended up being totally unworkable - one or two you would have loved to have pulled off?

Most of the time we find ways to do at least SOME version of the scene. There are a few times where physical production stops us -- there was a zipline beat in the Christmas episode that was cut. But generally, no, we find a way to do almost everything, just to scale.

@AMY:This is a more general question, but will we ever see how people come to find the Leverage team? You have episodes w/ victims from all over the place and I've always wanted to see at least one of them show how they found the crew.

The Leverage team tends to find them, as mentioned in "The Homecoming Job". Hardison has trackers set up with both the news feeds and with legal aid departments, etc, that help them find clients.

@Anna: 1. A 12-year-old as a getaway driver? Was that like the world's worst foster father (and most definitely the stupidest)? 2. Those laser transponder car thingies don't seem like they should've been around during Parker's stint as a car thief. I thought she was exclusively a diamond thief when she joined up, so does that mean she had a 'thief' relapse during her time with the crew? Or did she just steal cars and tell no one? 3. NLP again! Yay! Will we see other characters using this technique as well?

1.) There have been dumber criminals. 2.) Parker stays up on her thief tech. She's a hobbyist at least in that stuff. 3.) That tends to be Sophie's territory. The rest lack the subtlety to use it.

@Heather: what happens to the employees of the big corporations that the team takes down? Like the sexting dude from the wheat company or the receptionist that Eliot flirted with in the pilot. They were able to send the rival mom and pop salespeople to Tahiti or Hawaii or whatever, but they can't do that for everyone. Is this ever going to come back to bite them in the ass? Are they going to be contacted by someone who's been unemployed and gotten in debt and then find out the client lost their job because of something the team did?

As I noted a while ago, they usually take down individuals. The times they've dinged a whole company is when the company itself has been based on a lie, and so is hurting the integrity of the free market system. (Don't snicker, I take that seriously). Sexting dude from the wheat company didn't lose his job, and even if he did, it was because of the layoffs already coming, not ones that the team initiated. Our guys drifted in behind those facts on the ground, using them for cover.

That said, they've definitely left some collateral damage around them. They just see it as acceptable when considering the damage done by the bad guys. They may be wrong. They are not always very nice people.

@mad: While I love happy endings the teacher just taking Josie on as a landscaping assistant was a little too neat...and somehow a little creepy. He just took the race car and the girl and was going back home to his family?? And Josie just blithely went along with him? There must have been a long conversation we weren't in on!

Yes. A long, boring conversation devoid of drama, and hence unworthy of your valuable entertainment minutes.

@Codger: And I just thought of a question from the way-back machine. In the pilot Nate was about to fly out of Chicago, which happened to be where Sophie was living and Nate knew where she was working. Was Nate in Chicago to try to work up the nerve to go see Sophie and chickened out before Dubenich came to hire him?

No, but he certainly knew she was there. And if he got the job, well, no harm in calling...

@lily: (1) to what extent was the emp gun based on feasible technology? and (2) was Eliot truly upset with Parker? i wasn't sure how much was him deciding that he was sick and tired of her being crazy and untrustworthy as opposed to him just being understandably pissed about getting hit by a car and giving her shit because it *was* her fault. and (3) did Sophie's talk with Nate actually influence his decision to give Parker a break? or did he appreciate for himself how significant Parker's screwup was in terms of her interpersonal skills?

1.) See above. 2.) See above 3.) Sophie has a huge influence on Nate.

@RevTrask: Wasn't there a big risk of another "Cousin Jimmy" complication cropping up? With Penzer's history as a race driver, it would seem as though he'd have had the sources and connections to check out Nate's cover.

There's always that risk. But he did check out Nate, and this time Hardison's cover held.

Crescent: Twice Parker says "Outta my way, you old bat!" and in the Gone Fishing Job the wallpaper on one of the computers Parker is using is a cat saying "Outta my way, you old bat!" Is this an in-joke with the writers?

Nope, that's the computer guys having a bit of fun, having seen the upcoming script.

@ACK: 1) Why did the car alarms not ring when the cars were initially stolen at the parking lot? 2) If they had the keys to begin with, why go through the scene of them breaking in and hotwiring the cars? 3) Why didn't the gun kill the big rig?

1.) Because those were very ordinary alarms, and so easily circumvented by Parker. 2.) They didn't have all the keys. We just shortened the sequence/montage in the edit. 3.) Answered above.

@Anonymous: Can Hardison hack a PS3? The whole "hack anything with a battery thing" got me thinking of the deemed unhackable device.

Sure, but why?

@Heather: 1-Hardison hacked Sterling's car in the Two Horse Job, so why was he so freaked out when Parker asked him to do his thing on the one in the Boost Job?
2-If they had the keys, why did they have to break into all of those cars? Did they make the keys later, or yoink them from a valet board?

1.) Sterling's hack wasn't that difficult, or carrying a death sentence 2.) answered above.

@ChelseaNH: At the race track, Hardison reacts to Penzer's protest that no one could be his record by 15 seconds. Did the team put the bug on Penzer or his pit crew?

Nope, the track guy.

@Kris: Random question: That accent Sophie used when she was getting the dealership owners out of town--I guess I'd call it her go-to American accent? Is it supposed to be region-specific? Just curious. I don't have a great grasp on that sort of thing, and that's just one of my favorite Sophie voices. Something about it is very... not exactly calming or soothing, but reassuring, I guess? Definitely a voice you want to trust.

No, not region-specific. Generic newscaster American. You'll see that when she's not doing a specific regional accent, she has about three she cycles through depending on the social status/con role of the person she's doing.

Right, let's see if I can blow through another one of these tomorrow and at least get into double-digit episodes before the summer finale. As always, thanks for your time and attention.

126 comments:

Eventide said...

Rockford and Wolvie's "poncey nightshirt"? You win again JR. This post alone guarantees my attendence at Con-con2. Love you all. Seriously.

Anonymous said...

Just wanted to thank you for continuing to answer questions.

Anonymous said...

"2) The EMP gun has very specific uses -- and you will actually see it again."

I'm smelling season finale. I'm guessing akin to the Medical Miracle machine from "Babylon 5".

Ral said...

Yay! New post-game while a Leverage rerun is on my television! It's a good night. Wanted to echo CandyMaize and just say thanks for continuing to do these. They're so much fun, and they add so much to the episodes!

Anonymous said...

You know, I've been waiting for a 'boy King' Rockford Tribute, but didn't recognize it in this episode. I guess what threw me was the lack of a whole grifter reunion try outs scene with other con artists joining in on our team's mission.

Who plays the role of Angel to Tim's Rockford?

Anonymous said...

I laughed hysterically at the mention of Wolverine in a "poncey nightshirt." And just for the record, I also have a life that doesn't solely revolve around comics ... in revolves around other forms of geekdom. ... Like Leverage. ...

Havenward said...

Just wanted to slide in and say thanks, and also share something that might amuse you...

Me: Huh. Apparently Eliot doesn't wear a watch.
My boyfriend: Because if he did? He'd know precisely what time you're going to die!
Me: ... Did you just compare Eliot to Chuck Norris?
My boyfriend: ...Maybe?
Me: I love you.

Anonymous said...

Thanks as always! And I say pace yourself, that way we'll have something to keep us occupied during hiatus.

Rusty said...

"Kane did his own car hit."

Wow. I mean, when I saw the scene, I figured CK had WANTED to do it, but got voted down.

I can only imagine the stress level on that day of shooting.

He really is Batman.

Oona said...

You rock Rogers. Thanks as always for all the stuff you do for us fawning fans.

You're also making me want to check out Rockford Files. It was slightly before my TV viewing prime, and not one I caught up with on reruns, unlike I Spy, Man From Uncle and the Avengers. Sounds great, and Jim Garner does ooze coolness.

Sarah W said...

He is the Leverage-verse Brock Samson.

Dear God . . . I am so trying to avoid translating the rest of the team into that show, now.

Okay, I lied. But Sophie doesn't quite fit . . .

Jen Erickson said...

Thank you for taking time to answer questions in a way only you could respond. Love it. I think the writing staff for this show are all ROCK STARS. It's hard to pick a favorite as the styles are, as you pointed out, so varied. It's like old fashioned candy store goodness! Albert Kim's "The Stork Job" has to be one of my top favorite Leverage episodes.

Red said...

"Although I will say those were her foster parents she blew up in the pilot"

Are you saying Parker *killed* people? Wow.

Red said...

FYI, there's a session at Dragon*con this weekend about great non-sci-fi shows and they will discuss Leverage and Burn Notice, among others.

Guests include Mark Sheppard and Saul Rubinek.

David Hunt said...

You're thanking us for time and attention?!!! You're too modest, man.

Anonymous said...

He is the Leverage-verse Brock Samson.

You have no idea how happy this makes me.

Parker stays up on her thief tech. She's a hobbyist at least in that stuff.

You have no idea how happy this makes me.

Video Beagle said...

@Rogers: Stop making Jarrod happy...it freaks me out.

Video Beagle said...

So I've been catching some Rockford on Netflix...and we must be thinking of different shows, cuz what I've seen (some first season eps, granted), I'm not seeing any Leverage for-bares. At best there's been some small time hustling, but mainly it's him going up, asking questions and getting the crap beaten out of him.

Now, I was watching a Wild Wild West episode, and Artemis pulled off a Sophie con, disguising himself as a French art envoy and convincing the bad guy that half the art masterpieces he'd bought with the stolen money were actually forgeries...(hmm..Artemis=Hardison + Sophie and Jim = Nate + Elliot).

Linda_M said...

Thanks for your opening remark. After the last set, I'd decided to not read the question posts any longer.

Quine said...

For reference, [and future episodes] the first three seasons of the Rockford Files appear to be on Hulu now, with the promise of four and five coming in April. Although, Boy King is not in the first three

Anonymous said...

@Video Beagle, don't quote me because I have seen, literally, two halves of two episodes of The Rockford Files, but I think...based off the season one commentaries...Leverage aimed toward being like the latter seasons.

And don't worry about me being too happy, I mean...Hardison was using an iPad after all.

Anonymous said...

Thank you again for your efforts. I'm always blown away that you'd take time away from the rest of your life to interact with the fans this way. You, sir, ROCK.

SueN. said...

Is there any chance at all we will ever see Jim Garner in a Leverage ep? 'Cause that would be, like, way beyond cool.

And thanks again for answering our (and my) questions. It's kind of embarrassing the little sound I make when I see my name there.

Oh, and not that I really expect this ever to be answered but … is there anything you can imagine not letting Kane do? Or do you just prefer not to imagine the things he might ask to do at all?

Coren said...

What was meant by the 360 comment? Maybe it's my lack of sleep and caffeine but I'm just not parsing.

Also, my catchpa is traps. Yay!

ChelseaNH said...

@Coren: What was meant by the 360 comment?

Took me a minute to parse that one, too. One of the trademark shots of the show is the camera moving around a group of speakers in a circle (i.e. 360 degrees). It's usually used when the team is talking, but this time, we had a circle around the bad guys talking. Which I didn't even notice, so good catch, indeed.

Rebecca said...

"...I'd like to note that the snark levels are getting a little spiky in the Comments. Keep it even, people."

If you'll notice, when the crowd realizes that the fun is seriously deteriorating, they just stop interacting with the most toxic snark rather than continuing to try making their point. There seems to be a general unspoken consensus that it isn't worth having the last word if it ruins the ambience.

You mentioned previously that we were pretty good at policing ourselves. I think our recent reactions are actually an excellent example of how we choose not to escalate past a certain point...a point that is not nearly as far as you will find in most online gatherings.

Even when someone shows up who obviously doesn't get where the line is, it usually doesn't take long for the rest of us to realize that ignoring them is the best policy. It's a great space. Very few of us are willing to poison it.

Anonymous said...

@Rebecca: It's a great space. Very few of us are willing to poison it.


Amen.
Or something like that.

Corb said...

Interested in the comment about Elliot not killing people any more, unless the team were in serious trouble. Because I remember it from season to when Parker will was seriously upset by a fake medium that Elliot did indeed offer to kill him - which I think also says something about the relationship between Elliot and Parker.

Christina Lollobrigida said...

@Rogers "Although I will say those were (one set of) her foster parents she blew up in the pilot, I'm not going to confirm or deny that the boy who died was her real brother or one of her foster brothers."

Hold on. Earlier you stated this -- "Oh, and those weren't her parents who lived in that house she blew up. Now whether those nasty abusive people were still in there or not ... choose the answer that you like." (from your Stork Raving Mad/Open thread post)

Did you just confirm that she did kill someone?

gwangung said...

Hold on. Earlier you stated this --

I think Rogers, like most good writers, reserves the right to Have a Better Idea later on....

Theliel said...

@ Sara
Dear God . . . I am so trying to avoid translating the rest of the team into that show, now.

Okay, I lied. But Sophie doesn't quite fit . . .


Sophie is obviously Dr. Girlfreind as she is one of the most competent and compassionate, and the most skilled in infiltration and subterfuge.

Sterling is obviously Jans Jr. Because the tiny head Never Looses.

Theliel said...

Put me down as enjoying the cordiallity of this place and the fact that Rogers is awesomesauce for responding to our fangasiming all over the place.
There's a reason I read comments in only a few places and this is one because it tends to remain civil.

Sullivan said...

Theliel: Seconded and thirded.

John Rogers is in strong competition with J. Michael Straczynski for the "best all time interaction with fans by a TV series showrunner" award... and that, as the poet feelingly remarked, is going some!

A nit from my electronics/computer techie side: The EMP gun would "work" (for some definition of "work" ;) ) but I have doubts about that 30-minute reset; EMPs tend to fry electronics rather than just cause code to crash.

And if they did just cause a software crash, there's no reason to think that every car's timeout-and-auto-reboot period would be the same (or as long as 30 minutes).

But these nits are of interest only to people like me. If they had twice the time per episode they could show Hardison hacking into each car right after it was stolen and fixing the alarm system to come back up later that day (along with getting replacement keys, etc.)...which would bore most people to tears. "Competency porn" is great but a little goes a long way.

Speaking of ep length, I still can't believe how much story the crew fits into 43 minutes. (But part of it is by not showing Hardison soldering the EMP gun together!)

Still... @Rogers: I'll bet Hardison is a fan of Barney Collier, having grown up watching Mission: Impossible reruns.

Tori Angeli said...

So Eliot's like Kenshin? Except, uh, a lot less cute?

Anonymous said...

You know, I loved Richie Brockleman on "The Rockford Files" but didn't care for his series.

Okay, who was the better IMF leader...Dan Briggs or Jim Phelps?

Unknown said...

All six Rockford seasons are on Netflix streaming. There isn't a clear lineage to the show like, say, Mission:Impossible, but the show is awesome.

Sullivan said...

RevTrask: I'm going to cop out and say we didn't see enough of Dan Briggs to judge. *grin* But for the field work aspect I'd have to pick Briggs, just because Phelps with his 6'3 frame and silver hair would stand out in most any crowd - the last thing you want for a field agent. (But just what you want for a TV series lead. Hmm.)

Re the episodes, I thought the first season had a much more varied and grittier flavor than the rest. This wasn't so much Briggs vs. Phelps, but how they were written and directed. They were almost never rerun for some reason; I was very happy to be able to see them again on DVD.

M:I has a special place in my geek heart as I was really getting into electronics then. Maybe Hardison wasn't inspired by Barney Collier, but I sure was. Back in college I even took over an elevator or two...

Sullivan said...

RLW: Though there's not so much a clear lineage from "The Rockford Files" to "Leverage", Jim Rockford is definitely somewhere recent in Nathan Ford's family tree.

Sullivan said...

Red: Well Parker is crazy...

I'd prefer to think she just blew up her foster father - her foster mother (that one, anyway) seemed as much a victim as Parker.

Parker really got to me during The Stork Job, when she was first watching the video of Sasha. "See how he cringes?" Ouch.

Robin said...

@Rogers: If it makes you feel any better, I had no idea who Malese Jow was either. She did a great job, though. As did Bill Engvall. Over the years, I've become convinced that comedians make some of the best dramatic actors.

@Marquis: "...Up Up Down Down...

Ah, Konami code. How many hours did my bother and I waste playing Contra SuperC with infinite lives?

@Rebecca: "It's a great space. Very few of us are willing to poison it."

Well said. I, for one, am glad that I resisted the urge to communicate with the-troll-who-shall-not-be-named even though I had (I think) a cogent way of telling him exactly why his behavior was inconsiderate. I'm just glad that he didn't make his target(s) go away.

Unknown said...

@Sullivan - Agreed. They are both very good at the "Annoy the crap out of somebody and get them angry enough to make a mistake" grift style.

Dave said...

@Anonymous: Can Hardison hack a PS3? The whole "hack anything with a battery thing" got me thinking of the deemed unhackable device.

The PS3 has been hacked a few times now. Sony actually got an injunction last week against a company in Australia that was selling a USB Dongle worldwide that cracked it wide open - and temporary possession of all the stock in question so they can reverse engineer a fix.

gwangung said...

The PS3 has been hacked a few times now. Sony actually got an injunction last week against a company in Australia that was selling a USB Dongle worldwide that cracked it wide open - and temporary possession of all the stock in question so they can reverse engineer a fix.

Ha!

But...BTDT for Hardison. He's probably reverse engineered the fix (most probable fixes) and hacked THAT already....

Dave said...

The thing you have to remember when it comes to computer security is that, as soon as you decide someone needs access to it in any way shape or form*, anything is "hackable". Hardison might have to spend a month teaching Sophie everything she needs to know about the other RPG to get the information out of the computer when she gets into your locked down retina scaning 50 levels of security clearance closed room at the end of the long con, but it can still theoretically be done. Which, when you come down to it, is likely the primary source of Hardison's bravado.

That's the downside of the simple reality that computers no one can access - preferably encased in unobtainium, stashed in the molten core of the Earth, and turned off - just aren't particularly useful. Well, unless you're building closed system doomsday weapons....

Anonymous said...

@Dave, and we all know what a bad idea those are.

Sullivan said...

Dave: "as soon as you decide someone needs access to it ... anything is "hackable"."

Strictly speaking, that isn't true. It is possible to so thoroughly screen and "sanitize" your inputs that the system will do only what it is intended to, responding to a strictly limited set of queries and commands. It is even possible to mathematically prove that you've designed this correctly and that your code correctly implements your design.

The trouble is that most software is still being written by people who never heard of such things, or at best, dismiss them as "impractical for real world systems", "unnecessary", etc.

Ali Kat said...

Just wanted to thank you for putting up with the snark and drama that some people deal out so that the rest of us can enjoy this. There will always be someone willing to look for a reason to be offended and critical. I'm glad they don't deter you from posting these updates.

Can't wait for the Summer Finale tonight but I must admit, it makes me sad that there is no more new episodes until December. :(

Cassie said...

Don't say Eliot's never worn a watch. I've seen one a couple of times, but most notably in The Bank Shot Job. (And if I said my eyes don't track everything about Christian while he's onscreen, I'd just be a liar. ;)

Yes, I have seen Wolverine's poncey nightshirt, and no, I have no life, so don't call me on these things, Rogers. ;)

Aviles12 said...

Does Elliot have any siblings? And if he does would we ever get to meet him/her/them?

It seems that Elliots catch phrases is "Damnit Hardison" and "theres something wrong with you".. is that right or wrong?

last question, I've seen CK smoke in one of his movies, and chewin some backie in a radio interview. why dont they do that in a con and/or take down a corrupt cigarette ceo or something. (E-Cigs kinda work)

Aviles12 said...

Also, Think you should have David Boreonus (so spelt that wrong) aka Angel.. Come on the show as Old team mate of Eliots that needs "help".

Oh and is there anyway you can set up a con in chicago.. our corruption is at every level..

Aviles12 said...

1 last comment.. can i suggest a evil real estate broker that manipulates hardworking people out of thousands if not millions of dollars.. I work for a broker who is evil on so many levels. but cant find any other work. (ps. are ya'll hiring?)

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Itulah penyebab kutil kelamin adalah masalah kesehatan yang signifikan yang hingga sekarag belum diketahui jenis obat dan perawatan yang benar-benar ampuh.
Dalam ilmu kedokteran, penyakit ini diartikan sebagai infeksi virus yang dapat bertahan untuk waktu yang lama pada jaringan di daerah genital pada pria dan wanita. Seperti yang sudah disebutkan sebelumnya juga bahwa belum ada obat yang terbukti ampuh untuk menyembuhkan penyakit ini dengan menghilangkan virusnya secara total, selain hanya menghilangkan kutilnya saja. Karena Virus tetap tinggal dalam daerah yang terinfeksi, maka dapat kambuh setiap saat. Itulah mengapa sangat penting bagi penderita memeriksakan diri ke ahli medis jika sudah mengidap penyakit kutil kelamin, dengan cara itu maka dapat dicegah penularanya ke orang lain.
Pengobatan kutil kelamin terdiri dari beberapa solusi yang diantara lain adalah meliputi solusi topikal kimia, solusi anti virus, cryotheraphy, operasi pengangkatan, dan elektrosurgikal. Beberapa obat topical diantaranya adalah Aldara, krim, yang dapat meningkatkan sistem kekebalan tubuh untuk melawan virus. Sedangkan Condylox berkhasiat untuk menghancurkan jaringan yang terinfeksi. Dan TCA adalah perawatan kimia untuk membakar kutil kelamin ini.
Jika obat topical tetap saja tidak efektif untuk menyembuhkan penderita, maka diyakini bahwa pembedahan yang lebih efektif. Ada banyak pilihan juga untuk metode pembedahan ini, yang diantaranya adalah :
1. Cryotherapy, yakni membekukan kutil dengan nitrogen cair.
2. Elektrokauter, menggunakan arus ectrical untuk membakar kutil
3. Pengobatan Laser, adalah pengobatan yang sangat mahal dan dapat digunakan untuk mengobati kutil, hanya saja metode ini terkadang sulit untuk dilakukan.
4. Obat medis yang diterapkan oleh ahli medis, seperti resin podophyllin, Fluorouracil dan interferon.
Jika beberapa obat medis yang sudah disebutkan di atas ternyata tidak efektif untuk menyembuhkan, maka masih ada pilihan pengobatan alternative lain seperti obat herbal yang terbuat dari bahan alami, obat herbal ini juga diyakini tidak memiliki efek samping seperti obat-obatan kimia lainya sehingga lebih aman selain efektif untuk menyembuhkan. demikian adalah ulasan seputar penyakit yang disebabkan oleh virus hpv. ketahui gejala kutil kelamin sejak dini untuk mendapatkan pengobatan yang tepat dan cepat serta aman dan ampuh tanpa efek samping ataupun ketergantungan obat.

Anonymous said...

dapatkan dan buktikan khasiatnya dari obat herbal kutil kelamin yang aman dan ampuh untuk mengobati atau merontokan dengan cepat aman dan nyaman dari penyakit kutil pada kelamin pada pria dan wanita dengan cepat dan aman tanpa efek samping ataupun ketergantungan obat. produk ini merupakan obat herbal ampuh dan manjur yang terbuat dari bahan alami dari alam Indonesia untuk mengatasi penyakit kutil kelamin dengan aman tanpa operasi dari de Nature Indonesia. Penyakit Kutil kelamin adalah salah satu dari dua penyakit menular seksual yang paling sering menular, dan di sebabkan oleh virus. Penyakit satunya lagi adalah herpes genital. Penyakit ini disebabkan oleh virus papiloma manusia sering disingkat sebagai hpv.
Penyakit kutil seperti luka yang muncul ini juga disebut dengan nama kondiloma acuminate. Kutil tumbuh dengan ukuran kecil, tampak seperti daging berwarna di daerah genital dan anal. Dan penelitian menunjukkan bahwa 10-40% wanita yang aktif secara seksual oterinfeksi hpv, meskipun kehadiran HPV ini pada penderita tidak selalu disertai dengan munculnya kutil kelamin.
Jalur Penyebaran Kutil Kelamin
Kutil kelamin menyebar melalui kontak langsung dengan orang yang terinfeksi, seperti melalui vagina , anal, atau oral seks. Sekitar enam puluh persen orang yang melakukan kontak seksual dengan penderita kutil kelamin akan mengalami gejala, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan semenjak hubungan itu.
Virus papiloma masuk melalui lecet atau luka kecil di area kelamin yang terjadi selama aktivitas seksual. Setelah virus ini masuk, biasanya dibutuhkan sekitar tiga bulan untuk gejala pertama muncul, tetapi bisa juga memakan waktu lebih lama hingga bertahun-tahun.
Dalam kasus yang jarang terjadi, orang dewasa atau anak-anak dapat terinfeksi secara tidak langsung. Misalnya, menggunakan handuk orang yang terinfeksi , atau jika tergesek alat kelamin. Selain itu, bayi dapat terinfeksi melalui persalinan karena vagina ibunya ada kutil kelamin.

Anonymous said...

Buktikan khasiat obat kutil kelamin kami yang terbuat dari bahan alami asli indonesia tanpa efek samping dan sangat manjur. Penderita penyakit ini tentunya bertanya-tanya, bagaimana caranya untuk menyembuhkan penyakit ini cukup di rumah saja dan tidak perlu repot-repot harus ke dokter. Atau ada beberapa alasan lainya yang menyebabkan seseorang tidak ingin menceritakan penyakitnya ini, dan anda jangan khawatir karena anda tidak sendirian dalam permasalahan ini.
Kutil yang terjadi pada organ kelamin ini adalah penyakit yang disebabkan oleh virus menular bernama APV atau Human Papilloma Virus. Virus ini dapat ditularkan melalui kulit atau kontak kulit. Hal ini berarti bahwa seseorang bisa tertular virus ini HPV melalui hubungan seksual dan meski sudah menggunakan kondom. Biasanya penderita juga tidak menunjukkan tanda sedang mengalami penyakit kutil kelamin, sehingga hal ini juga mungkin orang lain untuk mendapatkan kutil kelamin dari penderita yang tidak memiliki tanda-tanda kutil kelamin tersebut. Misalnya jika pasanganya anda memiliki salah satu
strain HPV yang menyebabkan pertumbuhan kutil kelamin, maka Anda juga bisa mendapatkannya. Keadaan juga bisa menjadi lebih buruk, jika penderita menyebarkan virus tersebut yang sudah berbentuk
kutil.
Dari membaca informasi di atas, seharusnya sudah jelas bahwa sangat mudah seseorang terkena virus ini yang kemudian dapat menyebabkan pertumbuhan kutil pada alat kelamin. Kutil yang tumbuh pada alat kelamin ini juga bukanlah penyakit hina yang membuat anda merasa rendah diri dan malu untuk mengkonsultasikanya, apalagi jika ini masih berupa gejala awal, karena banyak penderita yang mengalami pertumbuhan kutil ini pada beberapa bagian alat kelaminya.
Jadi jika anda bertanya-tanya bagaimana dapat menyembuhkan penyakit ini dari rumah, maka yakinlah saja pengobatan itu ada karena sudah banyak penderita yang menyembuhkan penyakitnya ini dari rumah. Sebenarnya juga ada beberapa alasan kenapa penderita lebih memilih penyembuhan penyakitnya ini dari rumah, yang diantaranya adalah :
1. Malu
Ada sejumlah besar rasa malu yang terkait dengan semua PMS, salah satunya adalah kutil kelamin ini. Untuk alasan inilah mungkin anda ingin menyingkirkan kutil kelamin secepat mungkin tanpa harus memberitahu siapa pun, dan hal ini adalah wajar dan dapat dimengerti.
2. Privasi
Pekerjaan anda mungkin yang berhubungan dengan kantor atau dokter, sehingga ingin menyimpan penyakit ini dari catatan medis Anda.
3. Waktu
Mengobati penyakit ini dari rumah memang lebih efektif rasanya di jaman sekarang. Anda mungkin harus menunggu beberapa minggu untuk janji dokter dan kemudian harus kembali untuk banyak menindaklanjuti perawatan. Tapi jika anda menyembuhkan penyakit kutil Anda ini di rumah, perawatan dapat dilakukan lebih segera.

Anonymous said...

jual obat de Nature Indonesia ampuh dan herbal Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 442 0060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249.Dari namanya saja kita sudah tahu bahwa pengertian dari penyakit ini adalah pertumbuhan kutil yang terjadi pada organ vital atau alat kelamin manusia dengan mengidap penyakit yang seperti ini tentunya juga akan membuat penderitanya merasa sangat malu hingga bisa juga
berujung dengan frustasi maka dari hal itu bisa disimpulkan bahwa konsekuensi dari penyakit ini bukan hanya dapat berdampak pada fisik tetapi juga emosi penderitanya Menyangkut masalah emosi ini maka paling utama yang dipertaruhkan adalah hubungan seksual penderita dengan pasanganya Jika
sudah begitu maka apa lagi hal paling utama yang harus dilakukan selain dengan pengobatan yang ampuh Penjelasan di atas sedikit banyak juga sudah menyiratkan arti bahwa penyakit ini disebabkan oleh hubungan seksual atau seks oral yang pernah dilakukan penderita terhadap
orang yang terinfeksi dan secara lebih khusus lagi dikatakan bahwa penyebab utama penyakit ini adalah virus HPV atau human papillomavirus yang sangat menular Ada banyak jenis HPV yang diduga menjadi penyebab terjadinya penyakit ini dan sekali lagi kami katakana bahwa
pengobatan secara dini adalah hal yang harus anda lakukan jika sedang terkena penyakit ini Khususnya jika penderita penyakit ini adalah wanita maka biasanya daerah pertumbuhan kutil terjadi di bagian vagina vulva atau perineum anus dan leher rahim Gejala yang terlihat
pada penderita bukan hanya dari penampilan kutilnya saja yang seperti kembang kol tapi pertumbuhan kulit yang terjadi di sekitar anus dan daerah vagina ini juga akan dirasakan gatal atau sensasi terbakar oleh penderita gejala paling parah mungkin penderita akan
mengalami perdarahan selama atau setelah hubungan seksual Perlu juga diketahui bahwa virus HPV ini tidak akan menimbulkan masalah kesuburan tetapi jika penderita mengidap penyakit kutil ini selama kehamilan maka akan sangat tidak nyaman dan berisiko Penderita yang sedang hamil juga
tidak dianjurkan untuk mengkonsumsi obat atau menjalani prosedur medis kutil kelamin seperti penderita umumnya

Anonymous said...

Cara herbal mengatasi kutil kelamin secara ampuh hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249. pertumbuhan kutil kelamin lebih sering terjadi dalam kelompok dan dapat terakumulasi menjadi ukuran yang lebih besar pada jaringan genital. Kutil juga sering kembali muncul setelah pengobatan, hal-hal itu tergantung pada faktor-faktor, seperti ukuran dan lokasi tempat pertumbuhan kutil. Untuk menyembuhkan penyakit kutil ini dapat diberlakukan dalam beberapa cara.
Sedangkan penundaan berkepanjangan untuk mengobati penyakit ini dapat menyebabkan kutil semakin berakar dalam, anda juga perlu tahu bahwa setiap kutil itu sangat menular. Gejala yang dialami penderita mungkin terdiri dari beberapa letupan, dan jika penyakit ini tidak di obati untuk waktu yang lama maka ada kemungkinan kutil tersebut tidak merespon pengobatan oral atau topical, maka salah satunya jalan adalah melalui operasi. Maka mengetahui betapa rumitnya pengobatan penyakit ini seharusnya menerbitkan kesimpulan penting pada diri kita untuk mendapatkan perawatan infeksi genital secara dini, karena penyakit ini sangat menular dan mungkin anda dapat menyebarkan infeksi kepada orang lain.
Karena banyak penderita yang malu terlibat dalam pembicaraan tentang penyakit kutil kelamin HPV ini, maka mayoritas penderita kutil kelamin laki-laki dan perempuan biasanya tidak tahu apa jenis perawatan tepat yang dapat digunakan untuk kutil tersebut, khususnya pengobatan yang dapat digunakan secara privasi rumah mereka. Selain itu juga diketahui bahwa apapun jenis pengobatan yang dicoba oleh setiap penderita penyakit ini, belum ada yang benar-benar ampuh untuk menyembuhkan penderita sampai semua virus penyakitnya hilang.

Anonymous said...

Pengobatan herbal dengan menggunakan obat ampuh yang sudah terbukti khasiatnya de Nature Indonesia hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Penyakit kutil kelamin yang terjadi selama masa kehamilan dapat menjadi sumber keprihatinan paling utama bagi ibu hamil. Ada kemungkinan juga bahwa kutil kelamin selama kehamilan dapat diteruskan kepada bayi. Dan pilihan Pengobatan kutil kelamin untuk wanita hamil berbeda daripada yang tersedia untuk perempuan lain.
Jika seorang wanita yang sedang hamil mengalami penyakit ini juga merasakan gejala yang lebih buruk. Hal ini utamanya dikarenakan sistem kekebalan tubuh penderita secara alami ditekan selama masa kehamilan ini, hingga membuat penderita lebih rentan terhadan virus dan infeksi. Akibatnya penderita mungkin menemukan bahwa kutilnya akan tumbuh lebih besar.
Yang menjadi penyebab utamanya adalah human papillomavirus (HPV). Tapi mayoritas wanita hamil dengan riwayat HPV memiliki kehamilan yang sehat dan pengalaman melahirkan. Tapi yang paling ditakutkan karena virus ini dapat ditularkan sehingga penderita beresiko mengidapn kutil kelamin, dan wanita hamil yang mengalami penyakit ini bisa juga mengalami gangguan pada proses kehamilanya.

Anonymous said...

sudah terbukti ampuh obat dari kami untuk merontokan kutil kelamin dengan cara memakai obat herbal dari de Nature Indonesia hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Penyakit Kutil kelamin adalah salah satu dari dua penyakit menular seksual yang paling sering menular, dan disebabkan oleh virus. Penyakit satunya lagi adalah herpes genital. Penyakit ini disebabkan oleh virus papiloma manusia sering disingkat sebagai HPV.
Penyakit kutil seperti luka yang muncul ini juga disebut dengan nama kondiloma acuminate. Kutil tumbuh dengan ukuran kecil, tampak seperti daging berwarna di daerah genital dan anal. Dan penelitian menunjukkan bahwa 10-40% wanita yang aktif secara seksual terinfeksi HPV, meskipun kehadiran HPV ini pada penderita tidak selalu disertai dengan munculnya kutil kelamin.
Jalur Penyebaran Kutil Kelamin
Kutil kelamin menyebar melalui kontak langsung dengan orang yang terinfeksi, seperti melalui vagina, anal, atau oral seks. Sekitar enam puluh persen orang yang melakukan kontak seksual dengan penderita kutil kelamin akan mengalami gejala, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan semenjak
hubungan intim.
Virus papiloma masuk melalui lecet atau luka kecil di area kelamin yang terjadi selama aktivitas seksual. Setelah virus ini masuk, biasanya dibutuhkan sekitar tiga bulan untuk gejala pertama muncul, tetapi bisa juga memakan waktu lebih lama hingga bertahun-tahun.

Anonymous said...

Bukltikan khasiatnya obat herbal kutil kelamin de Nature Indonesia untuk pemesanan hubungi 28fe5a8b/081310563770/085846940249. Kutil kelamin laki-laki tentunya penyakit menular seksual yang sangat umum terjadi di kalangan laki-laki saja, khususnya yang aktif secara seksual atau memiliki pasangan seksual yang lebih dari satu. Hal-hal seperti ini yang bisa menjadi resiko peningkatan kesempatan untuk menderita penyakit ini. Kutil kelamin di sebabkan oleh virus yang dikenal sebagai virus papiloma manusia (HPV). Bahkan, HPV bertanggung jawab untuk semua jenis kutil. Penelitian juga membuktikan bahwa HPV terdiri dari lebih 40 jenis. Beberapa sumber bahkan melaporkan lebih dari itu. Anda juga harus tahu virus dapat ditularkan melalui kontak langsung atau tidak langsung. Jadi Anda mungkin Anda mungkin saja tidak tahu darimana penyakit ini berasal sehingga menghinggapi tubuh anda.
Jika penyakit ini terjadi pada laki-laki, biasanya kondisi yang terjadi tidak seperti kondisi lainnya, penderita juga akan mengalami perubahan dalam kehidupan seksnya secara drastis. Kondisi ini kemudian menyebabkan penderita dihadapkan dengan banyak keputusan sulit, dan harus semakin berhati-hati jika mendapatkan mitra seksual baru. Artinya, jika Anda memiliki kontak seksual dengan pasangan yang terinfeksi, kemungkinan besar akan mengembangkan penyakit ini, dan biasanya itu terjadi dalam waktu tiga bulan. Karena itulah maka hal seperti ini yang harus sudah anda pikirkan dari sekarang, karena bisa saja anda mungkin tidak tahu sedang mengidap penyakit ini. Hal ini yang kemudian menyebabkan penyakit ini menyebar luas.

Anonymous said...

Untuk menemukan jenis pengobatan kutil kelamin yang benar-benar ampuh, kita tentunya harus melakukan hal yang sama oleh banyak orang pada umumnya. Dimulai dengan mencari ke berbagai toko obat untuk menemukan berbagai jenis obat itu yang bisa dalam bentuk krim, salep, atau beberapa jenis cairan lain yang diterapkan pada kulit penderita yang terkena. Jika pilihan medis yang dipilih, maka penderita akan mendapatkan pengobatan topical medis. Tapi penderita juga terkadang tidak memahami betul tentang penyakit ini, hanya tahu bahwa penyakit ini sudah membuat mereka tidak nyaman dan ingin secepatnya hilang dari kulit mereka. Tapi jika berbagai usaha kita untuk menemukan pengobatan ini ternyata tidak memberikan hasil yang memuaskan maka keputusan selanjutnya yang dipilih sebelum terlambat adalah segera memeriksakan diri ke dokter supaya bisa langsung menerima pengobatan dengan resep yang terkontrol. Biasanya pada saat itulah pasien akhirnya tahu bahwa yang menjadi penyebab penyakitnya ini adalah virus Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) dan nama penyakit ini juga dikenal dengan penyakit kondiloma acuminatum. Virus tersebut masuk ke dalam tubuh penderita melalui hubungan seksual dan obat yang biasanya akan diberikan dokter adalah obat topical kulit.

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Anonymous said...

Jika Anda mengidap kutil kelamin, tentunya penghapusan kutil kelamin ini adalah apa yang ada di pikiran Anda sepanjang hari. Kutil juga tidak berbahaya bagi kesehatan Anda sehingga pengobatanya adalah pilihan anda sendiri, apakah ingin obat kutil kelamin atau tidak. Bahkan sebagian ahli medis yang melihat penyakit anda ini belum sebegitu parah hanya menyarankan supaya anda membiarkan penyakit ini akan hilang dengan sendirinya. Tapi jika kita perduli dengan kesehatan tentunya akan berpikir untuk segera mengetahui cara mengobati kutil kelamin menghilangkan penyakit ini jika sudah menginfeksi tubuh kita, ciri kutil kelamin yang berbahaya. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249

Anonymous said...

Kutil kelamin adalah penyakit yang sangat umum, dan bisa mempengaruhi lebih dari 5 juta pria, wanita dan anak-anak, seperti setiap tahun yang terjadi di Amerika Serikat. Penyakit ini memang jarang terjadi pada wanita yang sedang hamil, karena banyak penderita wanita yang mengalami penyakit ini setelah melahirkan. Tapi yang sangat disayangkan jika penyakit ini terjadi pada saat wanita sedang hamil tapi dia tidak pernah menyadari hal itu, dengan begitu maka akan ada kemungkinan penyakit akan terus berkembang menjadi lebih parah, satu-satunya jalan terbaik adalah dengan melakukan check up secara rutin, dan mencari penyebab kutil kelamin tersebut. Jual obat herbal kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249
Yang menjadi penyebab penyakit ini adalah Virus papiloma manusia (HPV) yang bisa menyerang siapa saja tanpa pandang bulu, termasuk wanita hamil. Dan obat kutil kelamin mungkin sulit untuk di temukan di apotik di daerah anda. Dan sesungguhnya wanita hamil memiliki resiko yang lebih besar jika terkena penyakit ini karena dapat mempengaruhi pertumbuhan janin yang sedang dikandungnya. Segera cari tahu apa ciri kutil kelamin tersebut. Tapi jangan khawatir karena di jaman sekarang ini, pengobatan kutil kelamin sudah dikenal secara meluas, intinya anda harus segera menghubungi dokter terdekat jika sudah terkena penyakit ini.

Anonymous said...

Ada banyak metode pengobatan yang dapat anda coba cara mengobati kutil kelamin, secara umum metode pengobatan tersebut adalah meliputi tindakan medis atau juga dengan obat alternative yang lebih mendasari pengobatan dengan bahan-bahan herbal. Namun satu hal yang juga harus disadari dari ciri kutil kelaimin pengobatan penyakit ini adalah pada umumnya penyembuhan hanya untuk menghilangkan kutilnya saja, sedangkan virus yang menjadi penyebab kutil kelamin belum tentu hilang. Karena itu juga hingga akhirnya penyakit ini sering berulang atau kambuh kembali. Tapi anda jangan kuatir karena ahli kesehatan terus berupaya untuk menemukan obat herbal kutil kelamin pengobatan yang ampuh, pengobatan yang ada sekarang setidaknya juga dapat meredakan gejala yang dialami penderita. Hanya saja obat medis yang selama ini dikenal efektif untuk menyembuhkan penyakit ini memerlukan biaya yang mahal selain efek samping yang juga bisa terjadi jika pilihan pengobatan jatuh pada metode khusus untuk penyakit kutil kelamin yang sudah parah.

Anonymous said...

Salah satu cara yang dilakukan oleh praktisi medis untuk mendiagnosis kutil kelamin adalah dengan pemeriksaan visual langsung. Dan metode ini merupakan salah satu cara medis umum untuk menguji pasien wanita dengan penyebab kutil kelamin, infeksi HPV atau kemungkinan kanker serviks. Khusus untu pemeriksaan serviks dilakukan dengan menggunakan Pap smear test. Tes ini merupakan pemeriksaan menyeluruh dan mendetail dari sel serviks uterus yang dikorek. Jika praktisi medis mendeteksi adanya kelainan pada hasil tes, mereka mengirim pasien untuk pemeriksaan lebih lanjut untuk menentukan penyebab pasti dan sifat dari kelainan.

Pemeriksaan fisik untuk ciri kutil kelamin diagnosis kutil kelamin melibatkan pemeriksaan menyeluruh dari daerah pinggul dan paha. Kutil ini juga dapat berkembang di mulut atau tenggorokan, namun kasus seperti itu jarang. Dengan mata telanjang kita bisa melihat kutil tersebut muncul dan mengangkat berupa benjolan datar pada kulit. Ukuran kutil juga mungkin lebih besar atau kecil yang bertumbuh secara berkelompok atau individual. Terkadang bentuk dari obat kutil kelamin ini adalah menyerupai kembang kol, dan yang paling khas ada titik-titik kutil pada kulit organ kelamin.
Jika ingin dijelaskan lagi maka dapat disebutkan bahwa kutil ini umumnya berbentuk daging berwarna atau sedikit lebih ringan daripada warna kulit pasien. Kutil kelamin sebagian besar menyakitkan selain gatal-gatal, nyeri dan bisa berujung pada pendarahan.Jual obat herbal ampuh untuk kutil kelamin de nature indonesia Izin Ikot DINKES RI No 4420060 V 2 hubungi 28fe5a8b 081310563770 085846940249

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