Wednesday, July 14, 2010

Side Note: Writing, Corporate Bad Guys, and Worldview

This comes up often enough in discussing Leverage, I thought it was worth saying again, for the record.

I'm a giant capitalist. I went into a highly competitive, speculative free market (stand-up); been self-employed since, well, ever; slept in my car to build my business, went without health care because I couldn't afford it, yada yada. I work in an industry that's basically wildcatting, where one bad week in the marketplace can sink your $30 million dollar TV show and all the jobs and investments associated with it. I am not one of these "the corporation is a sociopath" people. Hell, I am a corporation. I think, technically, I'm two.

I like universal health care not for any moral reason but because it encourages job mobility, enterpreneurship, takes the burden off our manufacturing industries, and leads to cheaper health care costs. I like to spend money on education because it makes our workers competitive in the international market. I want cap and trade because reliable humans tell me that the long-term costs of climate shift will be worse than doing nothing. I want solar power so people with thousand-year-old grudges in countries half a world away stop yanking us around. I want to cut defense spending so we can move it to border control and humint resources. I favor separation of church and state because, like Thomas Jefferson, I don't want people of faith to have other faiths shoved on them by the power of the government.

I'm a goddam 1972 Republican.

But, some people have a knee-jerk reaction and assume I'm generally anti-corporate or anti-rich people, and so the show is written that way. For this I have three responses, in ascending order of crankiness:

a.) Sometimes we can't help but generalize. But hey, we're not the ones who created so many bad news items in one industry that viewers can't help but subconsciously assume we're indicting every corporation involved. We didn't invent rescission.

b.) The fact that you're having an emotionally defensive response for a corporation, or corporate culture in general, but not for the parallel personal example of say Criminal Minds or Law & Order: Super Rape Squad means that the century-long campaign of multinational billionaires to convince you they are both invaluable and oppressed has worked. Congratulations, you've been mind-hacked.

c.) Sorry we made you feel unsafe. That maybe, just maybe, some -- not all, but some -- of the people who you've been taught to trust are not very nice. The world's unsafe, sookie-baby. Grow up.

There, it's been a while since I pissed anybody off. That should do it.

73 comments:

GinaFan1 said...

I know. The corporation was full of negativism. I think most people recognize when shows like this are painting everything with the same brush.

I liked it because of the startling facts that it did report. The observations about the FDA, and news media are eye opening.

SueN. said...

Thank you, thank, thank you!! I try to convince people (I live in Texas, that reddest of red states, but, even more, I live in East Texas, which makes Dallas look like freakin' Berkeley in the '60s) that I am a progressive not because I am a socialist-commie-Amurrica-hatin' hippie, but because I believe the government and corporations ought to work for the people.

Then again, I'm also a rational, reasonably intelligent person who has some grasp of history, so …

Golden Dragon said...

I agree with you. The Beantown Bailout Job quote - "There are Wolves in the World." Nothing is Black or White. There are grey shades of everything. Which is why I never use an absolute to define anything. I might use some or most, but never all. Are there Evil people out there in positions of power. Yes. To think otherwise is just plain foolishness. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. (I know I just used an absolute) but it takes a person of really high moral fiber to not be destroyed by power. Are there really good leaders who aren't? Yes, but we hardly hear about them... it just doesn't make the news. Sometime it is just easier having a lower moral standard. They don't care unless it effects them personally. Granted I don't agree with this view, I have a very high moral standard. I also, realize that power is a false thing to chase after. Power is something that is given to you by others. And what is given can be taken away. Which is why I really enjoy Leverage.

Anonymous said...

It's also funny that you guys do a show on pharma and then we get the issue with the Avandia study. Well maybe it's not so funny.

Anonymous said...

I agree with almost EVERYTHING you said. BUT for military spending and that is for the fact that I have a cousin who is part of the 82nd Airbourne and he doesn't have enough equipment if he has to go back over seas that isn't on it's last leg. By cutting the spending you are basically telling me, "No, I don't think your cousin should have a weapon that isn't at least 30 or so years old to defend himself."

But that is just me speaking from the family of our military.

Jerome Comeau said...

@anonymous I'm sorry, but that turns out not to be the case. By "cutting defense spending" what John (and myself, and others) are saying is "let's not spend 22 Billion on a plane that no one wants". In fact, if we, say, not drop $5 billion a month on a war no one wants to be fighting, there'd be money left over to provide all of our troops with things like proper body armour and decent mechanical support.

But that's just me...

Anonymous said...

Your best post yet, Jon. Evil and deception take many forms and hide in many places, including small as well as large business, and in private homes.

In the words of Jerry Garcia in Loser, "I know a little something you won't ever know", and it's every bit as bad as you portray on the show.

Keep up the great work of bringing some of the bad stuff out into the daylight so others can see it.

Jerome Comeau said...

and I say that as someone who has friends in every branch of the service, including some in front-line combat roles.

Mark Z. said...

By cutting the spending you are basically telling me, "No, I don't think your cousin should have a weapon that isn't at least 30 or so years old to defend himself."

Try reading it as "We shouldn't be spending billions of dollars to send your cousin to a place full of people who want to kill him."

Jezebel said...

A member of my immediate family is facing a RETROACTIVE recission by an insurance company. Which means that previously paid claims are being backed out and hospitals and doctors are billing us for previously covered surgeries and medical care.

Thank you for calling attention to this stuff.

Unknown said...

It probably says something about me that I never doubted that for a minute and right now I'd rather buy you a drink or maybe kiss you than be pissed at you.

Sorry to ruin your day. Let me ruin it a bit more by saying "I really love this show."

Harry Connolly said...

...the century-long campaign of multinational billionaires to convince you they are both invaluable and oppressed has worked. Congratulations, you've been mind-hacked.

Our popular entertainments are full of people who cheer the little guy taking on the wealthy and powerful, but our real life is full of people who reflexively side with and make excuses for people in power.

Julia said...

The fact that you're having an emotionally defensive response for a corporation, or corporate culture in general, but not for the parallel personal example of say Criminal Minds or Law & Order: Super Rape Squad means that the century-long campaign of multinational billionaires to convince you they are both invaluable and oppressed has worked. Congratulations, you've been mind-hacked.

Might could be. Or it might just be tribalism. Increasingly, political identity is being marketed not by policy positions but as membership in an association of like-minded people who unite to face down Those Who Mock All I Hold Dear, Who Embrace Their Views Just to Piss Me Off (and of course because they're Evil).

As conservatives colonized the pro-corporate space first, criticizing corporations is (at least in some circles) code for a laundry list of elitist librul badstuff. People who believe in elitist librul badstuff must be challenged on the internets by people who must challenge elitist librul badstuff on the internets (there are, of course, cognate kneejerk issues on the left).

Matthew Dowd, one of the guys who invented Bush Minor politically, wrote a book a few years ago with a guy who directs political coverage for the AP about creating tribal attachment through consumerism. Evil, but interesting.

Murphy Jacobs said...

On the off-chance I haven't said it in a while, Mr. Rogers, I adore you. I adore you more for stating in comprehensible English what I've spent my 45-odd years (and I mean that in multiple ways) learning is true from both sides of the board room door.

One day I will find a way to bring you that beautiful Guinness Mirror I have. One day...

Taellosse said...

Wow. It's such a rare thing to hear someone who espouses political views that are based on practicality instead of blind idealism. I've got very little tolerance for the ideologies of either end of the political spectrum. My own politics tend to be, in effect, liberal/progressive most of the time, but, like you, only because those positions make the most practical sense in light of human nature. Good to read such arguments coming from someone else for a change.

Anonymous said...

*clap* *clap* *clap*

Thank you for that.

It's nice to know, see, and read about people who aren't extremists on either end and work in the fiction game.

Anonymous said...

Loving Leverage for all its shades of grey.

And for provoking thought.

And just for being so darn cool and fun.

Stefan Jones said...

Brilliant.

Especially point 2.

I remember the gloating triumphalism of a libertarian SF fan defending tobacco companies. "The cancer connection has never been proven. They're just getting attacked because they have a successful product!"

Yeah. That's it. Right-e-oh.

Anonymous said...

I think this is the appropriate time for the slow starting applause. About most of your points I agree and I won't tell you which one I don't agree with, because you lay it out so very well. Thanks for taking the time to explain.

Macie said...

I applaud this. I fell in love with Leverage because it's got such a great storyline and is so well put together. Another thing that I love that some people don't seem to mind in their other tv shows is that you don't leave GAPING PLOT HOLES.
Now, maybe it's because my faith in humanity is a sad, pitiful block of ice floating somewhere around my stomach, but I believe that there are really people in this world who run big businesses who are willing to kill thousands of people for billions of dollars.
Maybe it's because I firmly believe that the system doesn't work.
The fact is, this is a show that is built off of real scenarios, and people still freak out and bitch about how you're demonizing America. News Flash, morons. America demonized itself.
I'm glad that you have the bravery to expose the world for what it is, and I'm saddened for the general population that they think that they're safe in their homes and nothing can touch them once the doors are locked. It's stupid.
Leverage is fiction. This has been stated, and if people can't accept that, they need to watch the damn history channel and stop annoying those of us who aren't ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

From Baby Bones

All this time, I thought you were a bearded coureurs de bois with a toque. Or did you go to university in Quebec only because the legal drinking age is younger than in the US?

Paul Stone said...

I think it's possible to like universal health care for all the reasons you mentioned, but also to like it for the moral reason. Health care should be a right, not a privilege.

Doc Nebula said...

Sounds like it's been a while since somebody on the blog has pissed YOU off. Clearly, I've been away too long.

Dude... sometimes your insecurity is truly, truly troubling. You're living the fucking dream, son. You're writing YOUR OWN FUCKING TV SHOW. Not only that, it's a FUCKING PULP FICTION TV SHOW. With the guy from ORDINARY PEOPLE. I mean, Jesus.

I don't know who got your panties all in a bunch this time, but I can say that in the past when I have managed to do it, you have demonstrated a massive incapacity to remember that I have written seven excellent novels I cannot get a single set of meaningful eyeballs to peruse, and am meantime working in a call center to feed my wife and daughters, while you are LIVING THE FUCKING DREAM.

And as you yourself admit at nearly every opportunity, it ain't cuz you're better than anyone else. You're just luckier. (It's good that you still have the perspective to admit that, btw. The resume admits it for you, but it's good you still can, too.)

So dig on how lucky you are and stop losing your bottle in public. Sookie-baby. (Whatever the fukh THAT means.)

Rob Pugh said...

@Julia "Or it might just be tribalism."

Tribalism *is* a mind-hack.

@Anonymous re: military spending, as a former Marine, w/brother in the Navy, Dad retired military - I'm going to join the dogpile. Cutting military spending does not equal putting troops in danger. If you think so, you too have been mind-hacked. [I think that might be my new favorite term.]

@Jezebel - RETROACTIVE recission? That has to be the definition of evil.

@Doc Nebula - "Christ, what an asshole."

Anonymous said...

Defense contractors are behind convincing the public that we need to spend a billions of dollars on 5th generation fighters to fight a war conceived in the 1950s. Anon, your cousin isn't getting what he needs because of projects like these.

Jim Bales said...

Bravo -- very, very, well said! If the "Corporate Person" acted like a decent person there would be no problem.

Of course, the "Corporate person" is a fiction, which is why claiming "the corporation is a sociopath" is nonsensical.

However, as you all make very clear with Leverage, there are people making those decisions. And some of them may very well be sociopaths.

For your consideration, I give you Thom Hatmann's commentary. (Hartmann, IMHO, should be taken with a grain of salt. However, his argument here internally consistent and, frankly, seems to agree with the world as we observe it.)

To extract a summary of his position:

If there is a "free market" of labor for CEOs, then you'd think there would be a lot of competition for the jobs. ... [M]aybe even somebody who'd work the necessary sixty-hour weeks for only $1 million.

... [O]nly one rational answer presents itself: CEOs in America make as much money as they do because there really is a shortage of people with their skill set. And it's such a serious shortage that some companies have to pay as much as $1 million a day to have somebody successfully do the job.

But what part of being a CEO could be so difficult -- so impossible for mere mortals -- that it would mean that there are only a few hundred individuals in the United States capable of performing it?

In my humble opinion, it's the sociopath part.

CEOs of community-based businesses are typically responsive to their communities and decent people. But the CEOs of most of the world's largest corporations daily make decisions that destroy the lives of many other human beings.


So, the issue is not that corporation is a sociopath, but that the CEO making the decisions is a sociopath.

Best,
Jim

gwangung said...

But what part of being a CEO could be so difficult -- so impossible for mere mortals -- that it would mean that there are only a few hundred individuals in the United States capable of performing it?

In my humble opinion, it's the sociopath part.

CEOs of community-based businesses are typically responsive to their communities and decent people. But the CEOs of most of the world's largest corporations daily make decisions that destroy


They call this "seeing the big picture."

And that's not snark. Dropping the details, treating people in aggregate and not as individuals, is a useful skill. But taken to the extremes can well be sociopathic if not leavened with empathy. And empathy is not a skill valued by modern business, nor taught overly much in business ethics classes.

Maria said...

Interesting rant. Apparently you took some bashing on that episode, though I can't imagine why. And while I suppose I could add intelligibly to the other commentary here, let me just say...I liked the show before, and, subsequently, you...now I love your ass!!!

Jerome Comeau said...

FYI, I've been threatening to make these up for a while...

http://www.zazzle.com/john_rogers_support_infantry_tshirt-235028274064722917

FastEddie said...

I'm a goddam 1972 Republican.

In '72, the Republicans were moderate and sane. The 1972 Republicans were to the LEFT of the 2010 Democrats on almost all issues.

SueN. said...

@Heronymus I love you! I just may have to scrape up the dough to order one of those.

Re: military spending. I'm an Air Force brat and former officer in the Army Reserve. And for years I've been saying we have one of the most fucked up defense budgets in the world. (Jesus, is Star Wars dead yet?) $22 billion for more planes in a series that have not once, not ever flown a mission in Iraq or Afghanistan. Meanwhile, the troops who are fighting are scrounging through garbage for home-made armor. Equipment that our troops desperately need is deteriorating faster than we can replace it, and we're still planning for a 1950s type war against an empire that no longer exists. Oh, and for years we financed two wars off the books and via emergency spending measures. Heck yeah, we love our troops!

Just not, apparently, enough to bring them the hell home.

Sean Fagan said...

I used to watch Criminal Minds. Note the emphasis.

I never watched L&O:SRS. (In fact, I don't watch any L&O shows right now, but I deliberately never watched L&O:SRS.)

I like Leverage because it's closer to the world I want to live in.

Also, regarding your politics: yay for enlightened self-interest.

Sara said...

It is beyond my comprehension that someone might get upset at perceived bashing of corporations. Like, honestly, I am sitting here, staring at those words, trying to figure out how in the world that even begins to make sense. Do they think the corporations are going to start crying? Perhaps they'll take their ball and go home? Maybe that their feelings will get hurt in some way? Seriously, I don't get it. It's...a corporation. What? This reminds me when I heard someone arguing against the public option because it wouldn't be "fair" to the private insurers. Like, oh yes, I am going to cry a tragic single tear for those in that billion-dollar industry over there. Uh-huh. That's totally gonna happen.

I just don't understand this mindset at all.

Then again, I totally am a socialist radical lefist commie or whatever the hell we're being called by Glenn Beck lately, so. I guess that is to be expected.

SueN. said...

@Sara, I'm with you. I absolutely don't get the whole "empathy for corporations" thing. Are people somehow afraid that if we hurt their widdle feelings the corporate giants are somehow going to stop trying to make money?

We used to be a society that believed in restraint and responsibility. We used to be a society that made shit. Now, we can't even criticize BP for breaking the damn Gulf of Mexico because somehow it wasn't their fault!

Feudalism is alive and well, and we are merely serfs in bondage to our corporate overlords.

Beth H said...

I suspect that a major factor involved in bad/unethical/risky corporate decisions like you describe is the layers of people and/or bureaucracy between the decision maker and the people being affected by the decision.

For example, Mom & Pop at the local diner are going to be careful what they serve because their customers are their friends & neighbors. If they mess something up, they're going to hear about it in a hurry.

They'll also tend to do whatever they can to fix the problem because their consumer base is more limited: a 2% loss of 50 customers makes a lot more impact than 2% of 50 million customers (assuming a similar per-unit profit margin, of course.)

A big corporation, though, will have dozens or perhaps even hundreds of people between the decision-maker & the consumer. And the big corporation usually has a hefty legal department, too. With that much insulation, it's easier to make the risky decision because the injured consumer has a lot less power to hurt the decision maker. This is, of course, where the Leverage team fits in! {grin}

Generally speaking, the more directly a decision-maker will feel the consequences of a decision, the more effort they'll put into making a good one.

(This also leads to my personal political philosophy: The smallest & closest unit of government that can handle a given problem is best suited to do so, because they're easier to yell at if they screw it up.)

I do wonder, though, what other structures lend themselves to that kind of pattern, though, and who might therefore be good potential villains for Levereage. Are there some huge law firms that have bullied around the little people? I know the "Lost Heir Job" dealt with a crooked lawyer, but he had a singular victim in mind when the Leverage team opposed him. Are there some cases of law firms pushing folks around that might play into potential future episodes?

Anonymous said...

Love Leverage, it's cool, it's provocative and instructive. A fun and great show!
I hope Archie Leach/Richard Chamberlain will soon be back,I would like to know more about his past and his relationship with Parker...BTW visit Richard Chamberlain's latest webbiography, groovy! http://www.richardchamberlain.net

Anonymous said...

You like spending on education because it keeps our workers internationally competitive, and that's cool. I like spending on education because, at some point, I'm going to have to work with the little f*ckers.


Cheers,
Sue

Janus Daniels said...

@Doc Nebula:
If you can write well, start a blog; people notice. Yes, it does take time. You can put your books on the 'net. Pay your dues.
Who knew who this guy was before he started his blog?
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/
Who even knew he was a she?

underattack86 said...

See, the only thing I don't understand is why don't address the moral argument against universal health care, being that it's paid for with other people's money. Seems like the most obvious problem with the entire concept. Same goes for education spending. You're clearly not a "giant" capitalist... a pocket-sized capitalist at best, I'd say.

Phentermine said...

Little doubt, the guy is absolutely right.

iPage Training said...

I couldn't even watch the whole movie because of how 'pandering' it felt... But there are things that really need to be made public about the FDA.

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Penyakit kulit adalah penyakit infeksi yang umum, terjadi pada orang orang dari segala usia. Gangguan pada kulit sering terjadi karena ada
faktor peyebabnya, Antara lain yaitu iklim, lingkungan, tempat tinggal,

Anonymous said...

ciri-ciri Kadas atau kudis adalah timbulnya bintil-bintil merah


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