Thursday, December 18, 2008

LEVERAGE: 2 Horses 1 Post

In which we answer your questions. And I think it'll be Thursdays. Want to give Waid a whole day of posting to himself.

Let's see what's in the mailbag ...

Red Dawn: I tried to watch the production videos but it requires a windows PC. Any chance TNT will make your show more accessible to mac users?

Working on it. I have to admit, they must be pretty sick of my geekery by now. There is, however, now a YouTube Channel for the show now. As a matter of fact, the next sneak peek is up ...



... hmm, a bit more serious than our usual sneaks. More clown killing, less baptisms! I hope more will be up there soon.

Joshua James: If you've told us already, my apologies, but can you make Leverage scripts (those shot and shown) available for readers?

Working on it. People get tetchy about copyright and stuff.

Matt: Good episode, but I've got to ask: was there any hesitation about using the "stall number switch" so soon after the "container number fakeout" in the last episode? While the mechanics of the scam were a little different, they both rely on people's tendency to not quite remember physical locations if they're given a numerical identifier.

There was a lot of hesitation -- which is why a.) this episode was originally scheduled to be broadcast five eps after The Homecoming Job, and b.) that's not how the original scam worked.

Welcome to the realities of physical production of television. The original scam involved a much more complicated bit of business utilizing the outside of the stables/stalls. Once we got to production, we wound up getting our locations for a very limited amount of time, and therefore had to use the interiors, and adapt the scam to that reality.

That episode? We were on the track for precisely one day. There are 116 green screen set replacement shots.

Even funkier, this one was written and shot before Homecoming, so I was essentially raiding our own kitchen when I used a similar gag in that episode. Now, what's weird is, in the scripts the numbering doesn't seem to be a big deal at all, it's a pretty minor part of the scam. But when you hear numbers spoken aloud, and they're the focus of the shot, they resonate.

All to say we were nodding and saying: "Yeah, they kind of overlap, but it's not like they'll be broadcast right next to each other."

Sigh.

It's also a lesson we learned along the way -- the final scam is the one everybody remembers. In Homecoming, we had a.) a three-person pickpocketing gag and b.) voice-controlled lock gag after which we c.) conned the opponents into hating each other by d.) stealing a bill on the floor of Congress on the way to e.) revealing a money-laundering scam which we ended by f.) not stealing most of the money using a number/location trick and g.) framing the contractor and Congressman with their own security devices on the way to h.) delivering a truck full of money that appears empty.

This is why television is the most fun. Evolves as you shoot in ways a self-contained story just can't.

Commish: One question concerning Ep 2... I understand now the process of thought that led to using a private hospital for this gi-normous anonymous donation, but wouldn't it still seem fishy since they're housing a vet who was "accidentally" shot by the contractors who just publicly revealed that they were trying to launder billions?

DON'T STOP THE FUN TRAIN!

(NOTE: Tongue is firmly in cheek here. That's an inside joke in the writers' room.)

Yes, and the best way to deal with a ganster mache who took your father's printing company probably isn't to run a complicated Big Store con involving race cars, King Tut and a death curse. But we ain't in the reality business. For that, you can always tune in Law and Order SVU, where you can watch somebody be sodomized with a violin bow.

We sodomize you with FUN!

Wait. That didn't come out right ... Let's just move on.

Jim Kakalios: And I love Sterling. I am already looking forward to the season finale, as I know that there will be a huge triple con that will deal with the crisis du jour, and finally resolve the Sterling issue simultaneously.

You don't resolve Mark Sheppard. Can you resolve the wind?

What I'm trying to say is, I seem to be stuck with the bastard until Javi writes another show and takes him off my hands.

adc1966: I hope you will make a recurring thing out of Parker's bizarre childhood memory flashbacks. All while holding that big stuffed bunny. And more Parker+Sophie. That scene last week with the zip-line in the stairwell was adorable. :-)

There's more Young Parker kicking around. And Mr. Bunny is still out there. Waiting.

Parker and Sophie do have tons o'fun coming up, although they tend to be working in different locations in the scam because of their different skillsets. That said: Hey, look Ma, we pass the Bechdel test!

Mary Sue: Rogers! When can those of us with no desire to hook up to the cable TV cash drain get to watch the show?! I'm chomping at the bit over here!

Available on Amazon the day after, and iTunes a week after that.

Joe Helfrich: Got to admit, this was my least favorite episode so far. It just felt like it tried to cram too much--horse racing information, character backstory, and a complicated con--into 44 minutes. Plus, until the tag, Badger (he will always be Badger) didn't seem the sort to have a long term plan. Before that, he just seemed like a petty guy who wanted to screw with his old co-worker. Did you write the tag, Rogers? Because it was a completely different feel.

Runtime's actually 42:30, sport. Welcome to the new age of television. And yes, sadly, there's a bit more Sterling plotting going on in the original script ... somewhere in the other ten pages that were cut. We definitely took a big chunk of the year figuring out how to pace these things. The kids wrote the tag, if I remember correctly.

someBrad: Did you film THJ in an actual hospital? What was the process to decide what medical equipment to use, if it wasn't just "We're in the hospital so we use what they have"?

That's a real hospital in Long Beach, in a real rehab room, with real vets in rehab. Jake's the only one in the scene who's not actually in rehab.

Keith: Gina Bellman does a perfect southern accent, too. That's not easy. Being from the South, I can pick out a fake yokel accent a mile away and hers was so good, I wanted to ask her what church her family went to.**If you're from GA, you get this. If not, well. it's not that important.

Weirdly this was the one where Gina was worried. Chris was around for some pointers, and we soon discovered the linguistic links between Southern and British accents ... as usual, she worried for no reason. Even got the Mandarin down, too.

Ugh, post-production calls. Thanks for the questions. I'm on vacation for a few days, so bug Waid and Mike, and I'll see you next Tuesday.

84 comments:

Mike Cane said...

>>>There are 116 green screen set replacement shots.

OK, you just managed to con ME.

I just watched my time-shifted copy two hours ago (working on pimpage post) and didn't notice ANYTHING like that. I can usually spot them too!

Is this seamlessness due to:

1) HD vid?
2) Dir of Photo?

Both?

You may NOT bring up:

3) My deteriorating eyes.

Becky said...

It is a beautiful day when my boss makes a "two girls, one cup" reference in his blog posting title. Long live Rogers

Anonymous said...

You can send Mark Sheppard to me, I'll take him off your hands. I'm a huge fan of Mark's and he did great (as usual)in "The Two Hrose Job", I look forward to seeing more of him.

TheMindFantastic said...

Im enjoying Leverage, its got a good amount of fun, and good cons to be rather enjoyable... but with the 2 horse job, "TELL US WHAT YOU DID WITH THE MONKEY! WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS THE MONKEY!?" flashback better be expanded upon. As well as Parkers flashbacks, thats one crazy childhood.

Mike Cane said...

Your blog pimpage is served, sire: Leverage: The Two Horse Job

Please don't send the ladies to beat me up. Unless, of course, they bring Parker!

Taellosse said...

Only semi-on topic, but just FYI, I cannot get the episodes that are up on the TNT website to play. Every time I try, it crashes my browser, regardless of which one I try to use. When I first went to the page in Firefox, it said I needed a plug-in, so I downloaded and installed it, and that is when I was able to press play as an alternate method to closing my Firefox session. As I said, the same thing happens in IE, though I didn't get asked to install a plug-in with that one. I have tried re-installing Windows Media Player 11 without it changing anything in either browser, too. This is on my home laptop, incidentally--I haven't tested it on my machine at work. Sadly, this means I cannot watch the show, as I do not get TNT on television--I don't have cable, since I rarely watch TV anymore.

Taellosse said...

Oh, and as an addendum, Google Chrome does not crash when I press play. It doesn't actually play anything, either, but at least it does not crash. It also never loads the black screen above the controls, which suggests to me that whatever video thingy that TNT is using is simply not supported by Chrome at all.

Anonymous said...

Rogers wrote: "We sodomize you with FUN!"

William Donahue was right. You Hollywood liberals are obsessed with Anal Sex.

Not that that's a bad thing.

GigglingKat said...

*blinks*

You have a public blog.

Was being a television writer not punishing enough?

I adore this show. I adore it because it is a ludicrous premise and by its nature ensures the bad guys will get their comeuppance.

I love how often it makes me laugh - I wasn't expecting that. (TNT makes EVERYTHING sound like L&O in promos.)

How many episodes are written?

Anonymous said...

commenting late on this, but: you talk at length at various points in your history about 4th Generation Media and so forth, but still, when I try the options listed by you of how to watch this show (which I want to watch) and also send some money in the direction of the people that made it, I have no chance to do so because I happen to live outside the US. Utter stupidity again. So we return to the age-old saying: piracy, the better choice, or, as in so many cases, the only choice.

And really, I _wanted_ to view it legally. I have no moral qualms about downloading something when I'm basically told: you live elsewhere, so fuck you.

Joshua James said...

I especially liked stealing a bill into Congress, for what it's worth. Great stuff.

Anonymous said...

Yay!

Wait, I can't access iTunes from work, and I have 7 hours and two snowy bus rides between me and my home Internet... DAMN YOU!

Oh, well. I'll have something to watch on the bus next week (and boy howdy, isn't that one of the things that makes the 21st century great?!)

Troylis said...

Anonymous@6:34 AM—Yeah, I'm in Canada and TNT doesn't want me to watch it either. Pirate Bay FTW!

I don't blame Rogers—he needed to deal with the devil to get it made in the first place. It would be nice if I could stream it instead of waiting an hour or so for the DL to finish. I actually use the Global and CTV sites from time to time to catch shows that I missed—4 15-second ads isn't a very high price to pay for free, on-demand content.

As for Leverage, I watched the pilot and I have the second episode on tap. I like the caper vibe, and appreciate that so far I haven't seen anything that would make me cover my kids' eyes. After a few years of following your blog, it's nice to see the fruits of your labours without a big studio to muck it up—or use as an excuse…[grin]

Emily Blake said...

I am enjoying the show and particularly Christian Kane and , but I was wondering something. If I remember correctly, Hustle also did a racing horse switch episode. Do you guys watch Hustle? Do you think about ways to prevent your stuff from being too similar or do you just do what you do and not worry about it?

Anonymous said...

Saw your show, 2 Horses, 1 Post.
It was interesting with all the turns and twists and all, and it's made me curious as to the creators go about researching these shows.
Anything to share???

TvNB

Anonymous said...

What the???

I can't find "The Two Horse Job" on the TNT website. Are they not airing it? Is there some weird delay? Or am I just blind?

Also, Just read through the Manual of The Planes. Awesome stuff, all around (Especially, the Feywild section, of course).

I'm thinking of adapting the old X2 Castle Amber module into a fey demesne--do you have any advice?

Anonymous said...

I am in a similar boat with the golden age green lantern above me.

I would very much like to watch the Two horse job, because i missed it on tuesday. (I work a third shift job and overslept.) I keep expecting it to turn up on the TNT site, but they aren't as timely as they were with the other episodes. Poke them. Possibly with a stick. You might point out that less than timely updates, will cost them ad revenues.

In a more serious note. Love the show. Would love to be ON it. Can't wait until they burn a movie studio for screwing a writer out of his just royalties on a project and Sophie gets to nail them with a vengeance.

Anonymous said...

>More clown killing, less baptisms!

More clown killing, FEWER baptisms.

nobodez said...

Just watched the first three eps from iTunes (yes, I did the HD season pass, even though I mainly watch on my iTouch. IT's my way of killing Blue Ray).

I loved all three episodes, and can't wait for more! Yes, and more Mr. Bunny! (and more of Parker's crazy). Of course, I knew I was going to love this show (not only because I love all things Rogers, even Catwoman, a bit) when they did Parker's intro in the Nigerian Job. That was classic.

Anonymous said...

>More clown killing, FEWER baptisms.

Bwaah.

Geoff Thorne said...

"We sodomize you with FUN!"

I think a t-shirt is in order.

Anonymous said...

I LOVE this show. I have been reading Kung Fu Monkey since Leverage was first mentioned and have been waiting for this show to come on.

What a delight! This is one of those shows where I think I shouldn't like it as much as I do but who cares?

This is a great show! Keep up the good work!

Kidsis said...

Wow. This is all getting very Star Trek convention. You going to start yelling at bloggers to get a life and move out of their mom's basement??

R.A. Porter said...

A pox on your house, Rogers!!!

(By pox, I do NOT mean this archeoptyrx flu I'm suffering from. That would be mean. This is a *nasty* bug.)

How dare you say you're stuck with Sheppard until "Javi writes another show." No, no, no! Fingers-in-my-ears and la-la-la-la I can't hear you! I refuse to accept rumors of The Middleman's demise.

Otherwise, great episode. :)

Here's my review.

Anonymous said...

Love the show - I just introduced it to my family (we're all fans of heist/con shows) and everyone involved approves. I do have some questions and comments, though:
- How did you get Gina Bellman on board? You didn't talk much about the casting, and when Sophie was introduced both my parents went "Oh my god! Her!" and are now pestering me to find out.
- Is there any way to buy this if you (a) aren't in the US and (b) hold opinions on DRM which are unprintable? iTunes and Amazon just don't cut it.
- My parents wish to inform you that the circular-track camerawork in the opening of the pilot made them nauseous, and that you should stop it :)

We'll be keeping a close eye on this one. It's tasty so far - keep it up!

Jim Wright said...

"The Bible Job"

Bibletopia. Bawahahahahaha! Rogers, you're a genius.

Anonymous said...

Hi John - just managed to catch the first three episodes and I really enjoyed them - the writing especially has had some laugh out loud lines.

"I'm going to punch them so hard that people who look like them will bleed" is brilliant.

Well done to the whole team; this is a great show!

Anonymous said...

John:
Fifth level tech geek question.
I've gotten the last two episodes of "Leverage" off of iTunes but I'm starting to run low on Hard Drive space on the laptop. (I was going to get an external hard drive this year but...) Is it possible to burn them on to DVD or am I out of luck?

Anonymous said...

"I want to get this over with so you can go back to being a bad memory."

We rolled over that one.

Anonymous said...

Loving the show more every week.

BTW, is anyone planning to sell those nifty "Leverage" latte mugs anywhere? I need to have one.

lummox said...

"I seem to be stuck with the bastard until Javi writes another show and takes him off my hands."

Damn you Rogers! Don't you dare imply that The Middleman is dead! It hasn't been officially announced so there's still a chance! I don't care how small and unlikely! THE MIDDLEMAN WILL NEVER DIE!!!

BTW Leverage is a pretty decent show. Once it's either out on DVD or there's some other way us non-Americans can buy it, I'll be happy to do so.

OhShinyTomato said...
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OhShinyTomato said...

(I'm retarded, and can't spell to save my life apparently, why the deleted post.)

I have to agree with the more Parker+Sophie (or Parker/Sophie *dreamy retarded fan girl sigh* lol) I'm sorry, but those two are just HOT together!

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Oh, Jooohhhn! Don't look now, but there's a Hungarian kerfuffle brewing on the TNT board, in the episode thread because you dared to use establishing shots of Budapest rather than Belgrade. We're trying to settle it down, but so far, no joy. Three new registrations, just to complain. Ugh.

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Unknown said...

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obat ambeien wasir paling manjur mengobati penyakit wasir ambeien tanpa efek samping terbuat dari bahan alami herbal seperti daun ungu mahkota dewa kunyit putih

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