Craig Mazin eviscerates a magnificently bad article on the current Writer's Guild/Studio negotiations from, of all places, the New York Times. The stuff in there -- "lead writer" and "junior writer", that "most screenwriters" get an upfront payment of $1 million dollars per screenplay (!!!!) ...
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I am not exaggerating for effect. The Times article is precisely that stupid.
This goes into the file, by the way, for the next time I get into (another) discussion with a journalist about how the high fact-checking and editorial standards of the mainstream press are all that's keeping us from sinking into a morass of rumors and spin. It's not that I reject the mainstream press, a some people do. I just don't much care for anyone's air of infallibility. And that "air of infallibility" is the attitude carried by so many journalistic establishments* without, frankly, any decent justification whatsoever. It is often a selling point, despite cries of self-modesty.
* (EDIT: professional journalist Flynn rightfully points out in the comments I overgeneralized here in the original post, lumping in all journalists with those specifically aggrieved by the challenge to their authority and the professional establishment that to a great degree depends for their business model that you only trust X sources of information. He's right, and I apologize for the thoughtlessness.)
Many Dirty Filthy Bloggers are assholes with attitudes. But sometimes we're experts in highly specialized fields, and there's nothing constructive in getting huffy and defensive about one's career as a generalist being threatened.
(Further Note: "bed of golden vaginas" tm Warren Ellis -- in a post about me, of all things)
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Nothing points out just how shallow our mainstream press is than reading a story where you have more expertise than the reporter. You can find all of the flaws, and as you point out here they're usually simple things that a few interviews should have cleared up - yet the misinformation is always there.
I think that's a good chunk of the reason why a lot of bloggers are "assholes with attitudes" about reporters - the bloggers are experts in a particular field (like domestic policy, foreign policy, technology, Spider-man, bendy straws, etc.) and they've watched reporters mess up basic facts about their pet obsessions for years without having their own pulipt to speak out from.
So, one badly written, poorly researched article is held up as the standard of journalism in a publication that has a vastly impressive record over the last century (barring, of course, a few nefarious recent scandals)?
Jeez, good thing screenwriters aren't held to the standards of their lowest common demoninator *cough*catwoman*cough*.
Yeah, we make mistakes, and I don't see an "air of infalibilty" looking around this office. I see an eviscerated staff working with bare-bones editorial oversight trying to pull together a news report that lingers around the truth.
There's no illusion of infallibility in the mainstream press, we're all treading water in a hostile pool of acid.
Lord knows I'm one of the biggest critics of my industry around, but Johnny boy, it's pistols at dawn.
Yes, reporters mess up facts on a daily basis. I boil with fury on a nightly schedule as I watch national newscasts in Canada shred the truth and blithely warp reality.
That being said, there's a core of solid, smart people in here trying desperately to do what the press is supposed to do and let me tell you bub, it ain't gettin' easier.
We face a similar boundary between reason and utter chaos that a writer sees when sitting down around a table with producers - ours falls at the senior editor level. When they're stupid, setting editorial policy and standards, we're stupid. That's the nub of the crisis here.
So beware, lest you tar us all with the same brush. Outpoint mistakes, write to editors, blog against the media but for Christ's sake you have to get it right in your criticism if you want us to get it right in the paper. Oh, and go buy a paper. We need the money to hire more smart people.
So, one badly written, poorly researched article is held up as the standard of journalism in a publication that has a vastly impressive record over the last century (barring, of course, a few nefarious recent scandals)?
Yes, and the Republicans are the Party of Lincoln. So they must presently be very deeply committed to civil rights.
Ah, Flynn, now, you've taken me the wrong way. There's a difference between the Canadian press market and the American Market, and indeed the comparative business models and even power relationships.
What I'm focusing more on here are screeds such as the CULT OF THE AMATEUR, and the vehement criticism and dismissal of bloggers by mainstream American press. What the American media scene has that's particularly different than the Canadian media scene, as I understand it, is a massive and decades-established professional punditocracy. You cannot in any way compare the working parameterss of the CP, or even the night-time network news or major newspapers of Canada with the corporate/power relationships in which the American media dwells. Or, you can, but I don't think it's productive.
That is, there are two layers of American journalism -- the folks out finding the facts, and the folks involved in protecting the reputation of the system. My issue is that the folks invested in protecting the system often do so by attacking anyone who questions the system rather than by shoring up the standards of the system.
Perfect example, the famous Brian Williams quote:
"You're going to be up against people who have an opinion, a modem, and a bathrobe. All of my life, developing credentials to cover my field of work, and now I'm up against a guy named Vinny in an efficiency apartment in the Bronx who hasn't left the efficiency apartment in two years" — Brian Williams, anchor of the "NBC Nightly News," speaking before New York University journalism students on the challenges traditional journalism faces from online media.
Uh, yeah, bloggers like Christy Hardin Smith, prosecutor, or Phil Carter, who got his law degree in between his two deployments to Iraq, or Jon Robb, former Air Force intelligence and now insurgency expert or Juan Cole who unlike 99.999999% of the people covering the Middle East actually speaks and reads Arabic and knows the history, or perhaps Craig Mazin and John August and I in screenwriting, who have a couple or thirty movies between us ... God help us those people should get involved in calling bullshit in our specific fields.
The principle reaction to the blogging/citizen journalist movement in mainstream American media has been "how dare you?" -- Not a reaction in Canada, really, unless I'm mistaken. Media in America was a one-way transmission of information for a long time, and sadly while some personality types are drawn to journalism by the burning desire to inform, some personality types are subconsciously drawn by the implied power of that relationship.
I guarantee you, from previous experiences watching bloggers write in about factually inaccurate articles in major outlets, that the response from the Times (if there is one) a.) will be "Oh, my those nasty bloggers!" rather than b.) "Jesus Christ, how did we let a totally inaccurate, factually delusional article appear in our paper? Man, we will get right on that!" That's the issue I'm discussing.
(Also, it's hard to exaggerate just how bad this article is. It's on the standards of writing an article about Iraq and confusing the conflict between Shia and Sunni with Jews and macroherpetophiles. It's "moon made of cheese" territory, not "citation needed" territory.)
Listen, it's a bit like how I talk about screenwriters. My rule of thumb is to never trust the guys who have a lot of pictures of themselves with the actors at movie premieres on their IMDB page. I know it's reverse snobbish of me, but that implies that they've bought into the bullshit. That hey, we're screenwriters of fabulous movies, we're part of the fame machine!
No, we're not. We're fucking writers. Let the pretty people do their pretty people thing and don't chase fame that'll never be ours, because that's what leads to very, very bad choices in your craft. Again, YMMV, but it's how I think about it.
(That's not to say a certain amount of branding isn't necessary now, in order to establish an independent creative identity and further control. But you know the difference)
So there's an entire subculture of "reporters" with their pictures next to the stars, people like Richard Cohen, Tim Russert, Bob Novak, and Chris Matthews and even Brian Williams who are out here getting the FACTS dammit, they dedicated their LIFE to this, and there's NO WAY they're letting the heady air of pseudo-fame distort how they approach their jobs. No WAY, mister.
And that has nothing to do with the fact that they're not going to let you get away with the implication that just anybody, with enough training,time, and talent, could do their jobs. No sir.
So, do I think that all reporters are scum? That's ridiculous. There are literally thousands of hard-working reporters out there risking their lives to bring us facts that we would otherwise never know if not for their dedication. That job is completely irreplaceable.
But am I supposed to not laugh when a reporter from Maclean's asks me how we're supposed to function as a society if we don't have magazines and newspapers we can hold up as trustworthy, authoritative sources of information? When that same reporter is horrifed that while I depend on facts gleaned by hardworking reporters, I might turn to analysis from experts in those fields rather than the same reporter who may be either
-- our heroic, overworked, reporter who just doesn't have time to chase down every nuance or aspect fo the case
-- a reporter who's worked this beat for years, who is a legitimate expert, and somehow is allowed to express this expertise even when it contradicts the editorial intent of the paper
-- a total prat who's covering the story for whatever reason strikes their fancy.
Are the blogging experts better? Well, that depends on the expert, and individual judgement and taste. But to dismiss that choice as reckless or irresponsible, as so many media personalities in America do, is plainly ridiculous.
In the States, the War of MSM vs. Bloggers wasn't started by the Bloggers, despite what it may appear. And while there may be no illusion of infallibility in the newsroom, there's an entirely different public attitude generated by major corporate media in the States.
In a country where a sizeable percentage of the population thinks Saddam Hussein was involved with 9/11, some of us have grown short with lectures about attitude from the press tasked with informing the public.
The good thing is, I firmly believe -- unlike many people -- that the job of journalists will never "go away" or be replaced, etc. It requires too much time and training to become a good reporter for a purely amateur press to ever really replace a professional system (and yes, I know of good counter-examples, but this is where I fall on the subject)
What may disappear is the big, top-heavy talking heads industry, which has somehow fooled people into thinking it's a legitimate part of journalism. There are an awful lot of American reporters covering the national scene who are rewriting press releases instead of asking questions.
One could probably derive from this and my other writing my deep, abiding love of an adversarial approach to authority. In my ideal world, every morning, the President wakes up, his eyes pop open, he sighs and whispers "Fucking reporters." In the same way, in this same ideal world, every editor at every news source wakes up every morning, his eyes open, and whispers "Fucking readers."
So take my opinion in that context.
To bring it all the way around, most of the people who created that "impressive record over the last century" for THE NEW YORK TIMES are both a.)dead and b.) not working for the paper anymore.
I don't instinctively dismiss the idea that an organization that has been successful over a long period of time has certain institutional processes in place which help reinforce and perpetuate that tradition of success. But I don't think those processes are magical and immortal, either.
Oh, and CATWOMAN? we're friends, man. That just fucking HURTS. Just for that, you buy the first round.
OK, OK, we both get points for knee-jerkism. We may well be on the same page. Just seemed there were some all-encompasing statements in there that rankled.
I'm hip-deep in shit at the moment so must be necessarily brief. We can rochambeau each other over pints later.
Point form quasi-rebuttal:
- Canadian media not U.S.: true, but ever growing closer like slugs in a courting ritual
- Media attitude to bloggers: true, same attitude Hollywood likely has to smartass upstart indie directors. BUT Just as in film, the blogosphere will be absorbed into the mainst' media hivemind and soon. We're already starting to embrace citizen journalism at the highest levels in my company and others.
- BAD bloggers, DOWN boy: yeah, the crusty old journofarts want to protect their turf and what is WITH the clothes these kids are wearing.
- NY times pedestal: believe it or not, they still have many of the finest minds working journalism today, particularly on the national editing desks. I often weep like a little girl with a dead kitten when I read the quality of prose in that paper. Well, yeah, they hired Jayson Blair etc., but I still love its craftsmanship. So hands off my icon.
- Catwoman: Aw, ya big sissy, you know I'm just pulling the other one. Deliberate poke at the soft parts because I know the provenance of the thing. HURT? You shouldn't be unless you had more to do with the badness than you let on....
Like I took the CATWOMAN thing seriously. consider that the "remember THIS old girlfriend -- OOOOHHHH!" mandatory bar response.
There's actually a good article -- geesh, was it Harpers, about how smaller American newspapers are actually adapting to the web at much higher speed with much greater efficiency. I'll have to hunt it up.
It's totally true. Same in Canadian markets. Small papers get it, it gives them the ability to publish more material than a small print run allows. They're hungrier.
Oh, and two words...
Dedorah. Henke.
and I can't spell nor edit my posts here.
I repeat:
Deborah. Henke.
tee hee!
Sweet Lord, that's a terrible piece of journalism. Puzzling too, screenwriter salaries are fairly easy to check. A phone call or two to the WGA would have disproved those crazy notions....
Better yet, it's awfully easy to track down screenwriters in person. I understand one or two of them even have blogs.
Alas, as a full time critic I've seen some horrifying inaccuracies see print. I remember years ago trying to explain to a journalist why describing the Chernobyl accident as a "Nuclear explosion" wasn't entirely accurate...
Me? I try to verify every single fact. But then I am writing TV reviews and that's obviously the most important sphere of print journalism.
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See, now THIS is why I love the web - you just don't know how things really work in this wide world of ours, otherwise. ;-)
This is pretty much the central point in my "why everyone hates the media" theory.
It goes like this:
Nearly everyone is an expert (or at least highly knowledgeable) in at least one reasonably esoteric subject. For any given person, eventually, the media will do a story that features that subject, and due to various reasons (see below) will portray that subject in a way that person finds incorrect (specifically in a spectrum that ranges from misinformed to wildly insanely inaccurate). From this point on, the person will regard the media as incompetent and clueless.
Eventually, this process will happen at least once to everybody. And thus everybody thinks the media are incompetent.
Unfortunately, in my experience a large part of the problem is not that the reporters in question are incompetent, but that the editorial policy is to simplify any "technical" subject for "the masses". This simplification process invariably mispresents the technical information - to the immense frustration of the knowledgeable person as described above.
My personal experience relates to TV news in a country that's not the US, so I'm probably overgeneralising in a way that will upset somebody (see above :) ).
...I thought it was warp drive crystal dust and a bed of WET golden vaginas...
Am I misinformed or is this yet another case of sloppy reporting?
I forgive you. But now you must be shorn and cast to the pharisees. Or something like that.
You're absolutely right about journalists, but have you ever seen somebody use a computer in a movie? The only people as stupid as reporters are screenwriters.
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Wasir atau ambeien adalah penyakit yang terjadi pada bagian anus, jenis wasir atau ambeien sendiri ada dua yaitu wasir atau ambeien dalam dan wasir atau ambeien luar. Dalam penangananya sendiri wasir atau ambeien dapat disembuhkan dengan dua jalan yaitu pengobatan medis dan pengobatan non medis atau pengobatan alternatif. Pengobatan alternatif disini salah satu pilihanya adalah dengan menggunakan tanaman herbal atau dengan ramuan tradisional. Ambeclear dan Salep Salwa adalah hasil pengolahan tanaman herbal daun ungu, kunyit putih, dan mahkota dewa yang telah terbukti ampuh mengatasi wasir atau ambeien baik wasir stadium satu, stadium dua, stadium tiga maupun stadium akhir atau stadium empat. Wasir berdarah, wasir yang telah kronis, semua dapat diatasi dengan menggunakan obat ini selain ampuh obat ini juga aman dan tidak menimbulkan efek samping apapun bagi penggunanya sehingga obat ambeclear ini aman dikonsumsi oleh penderita wasir yang sedang hamil maupun menyusui.
Penyakit ini umumnya muncul karena penderita mengejan terlalu keras pada saat buang air besar. Dengan mengejan terlalu keras, maka pembuluh darah di sekitar anus dapat melebar dan pecah menimbulkan infeksi dan pembengkakan yang berakhir pada masalah wasir atau ambeien tersebut.
Penderita Penyakit kondiloma atau Kutil Kelamin yang telah terinveksi disarankan untuk segera melakukan pengobatan secepat mungkin sebelum Virus HPV penyebab kutil kelamin makin banyak berkembang biak di dalam sel darah makin lama dibiarkan akan memperparah kondisi organ vital karena kutil kelamin akan terus membesar sehingga terlihat seperti jengger ayam untuk penderita yang baru tertular kurang dari satu bulan biasanya akan lebih cepat ditanggulangi obat kutil kelamin Paling ampuh dari De Nature dan terbaik ada hanya di http://obatkutildikemaluan.blogdetik.com/ untuk mendapatkan informasi yang lebih jelas mengenai pengobatan kutil pada kelamin silahkan kontak langsung di nomer 0852 808 77 999 atau 0859 7373 5656 Bagaimana mengobati Ambeien itu sendiri. pengobatan yang terbaik untuk Ambeien adalah dari luar dan dalam sehingga Ambeien benar benar tuntas dan tidak akan kambuh lagi. obat Ambeien terbaik "Ambeclear dari De Nature" AlamiAdalah obat Ambeien herbal yang memang terbaik untuk mengobati Ambeien, dan sudah terdaftar di badan obat dan makanan (BPOM) dengan nomer registrasi POM TR: 133 374 041. terbuat dari bahan alami antara lain terdiri Daung Ungu, Mahkota Dewa dan Kunyit Putih.
cara yang alami menyembuhkan penyakit wasir ambeien secara alami dengan menggunakan daun ungu serta mahkotadewa aman untuk ibu hamil tanpa operasi cukup dengan menggunakan obat wasir herbal ambeclear terbuat
wasir ambeien bisa sembuh tanpa harus di operasi maupun injeksi cukup dengan obat wasir ambeien herbal ambeclear herbal de nature dari daun ungu serta mahkotadewa aman untuk ibu hamil
Bukan hanya pengobatan medis saja tapi ada juga pengobatan rumah alami yang dapat digunakan untuk menyingkirkan penyakit kutil kelamin ini. Intinya, karena kutil ini muncul di daerah yang sensitif, maka anda harus mencari pengobatan yang terbaik pada kulit Anda dan jika diperlukan juga dibantu dengan tenaga medis yang professional. Sebab dokter akan menjadi sumber informasi yang baik untuk mengobati penyakit ini.
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Cara yang sering di lakukan untuk menghilangkan kutil kelamin adalah dengan cara pembedahah atau operasi, cara ini tentu memerlukan dana yang tidak sedikit. metode Pilihan pembedahan yang dapat Anda lakukan
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Bukan hanya pengobatan medis saja tapi ada juga pengobatan rumah alami yang dapat digunakan untuk menyingkirkan penyakit kencing bernanah ini. Maka anda harus mencari pengobatan yang terbaik pada penyakit Anda dan jika diperlukan juga dibantu dengan tenaga medis yang professional.
Kadang disertai
dengan sakit saat kencing, perih, organ intim terasa panas menyiksa,
gatal,..
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penyakit yang ditularkan melalui hubungan seks : vaginal, oral dan anal. Juga dapat menular melalui persentuhan kulit dengan daerah yang terinfeksi.
Obat Ambeien Resep Dokter Ambeclear dari De Nature Ampuh Tuntaskan Ambeien Sampai Tuntas
Sebelum kita membahas tentang pengobatan ambeien, dalam kesempatan ini
saya ingin menjelaskan sekilas tentang ambeien, agar kita semua bisa
memahami benar apa itu penyakit ambeien
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obat ambeien wasir paling manjur mengobati penyakit wasir ambeien tanpa efek samping terbuat dari bahan alami herbal seperti daun ungu mahkota dewa kunyit putih
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