Friday, March 10, 2006

Giff at Newsarama

One of those articles that reminds me how lucky I am to have Giffen schooling me in the four-color world.

Worth saying again, though, as I still see this confusion in both my comments and Newsarama. We did not kill Ted Kord. Ted did not die so they could introoduce a new Blue Beetle.

The DC Ed board though it would be a meaningful death for the storyline. It was after the plot was worked out, Dan Didio was talking to Keith and said "Hey, you know, the Scarab is still out there. If you had free reign, what would you do?" Keith called me up, and away we went.

Just, you know, for those of you still nursing emotional damage over the poor treatment of a person who never actully existed.

Also, and I believe Waid is putting this in the new DC History, Kord was secretly stealing the Birds of Prey's panties. So not the cool guy you all think.

(EDIT:
*sigh* The Powers That Be Wish me to make it perfectly clear, that Ted Kord being a panty-sniffer is not part of official DCU canon. So don't look for it in the backup pages of 52. Although I personally meant that Ted was wearing them. You're the ones who turned it from a perfectly normal way to feel pretty and safe into something weird.

People, people, I myself am a 39 year old man who shops for comics every Wednesday, knows the difference between an SM/Ruin and Dark Pact 'lock, and has a DMG on my bookshelf. But we have got to lighten up a bit if we're to hang at the Kung Fu Monkey House. I mean, I was pissed, too, but c'mon.)

29 comments:

Bill Cunningham said...

I knew Ted Kord was a "sniffer."

Dieter said...

That makes Ted even cooler in my mind...

jay in said...

I just want to go on the record as saying that a) I know you guys didn't kill Ted Kord to get a new Beetle, and b) even if I thought otherwise, I'm willing to let it go if the new BB is worth reading.

That crack in the Mike Alan Nelson post was just that -- me making a funny. Hope I didn't offend.

Noah Brand said...

Actually, a panty thief is pretty much exactly the kind of guy I thought Ted was, when I gave him much thought.

Bill Cunningham said...

"That makes Ted even cooler in my mind..."

Yeah, but Ted never got any play, so his beetle wasn't the only thing that was blue...

John Donald Carlucci said...

You know that Ted_Kords_Ghost is going to come back and kick your ass for that Bill.

JDC

Jimmy_Ellis said...

Ai, read about your blog in "The best of blog" book thingy today at the waldenbookstore. It said kungfu monkey so it was one of the the ones I wrote down. But I see no kungfu, nor do I see monkeys.

But the question is...would I have wanted too?

Jimmy_Ellis said...

Ai, read about your blog in "The best of blog" book thingy today at the waldenbookstore. It said kungfu monkey so it was one of the the ones I wrote down. But I see no kungfu, nor do I see monkeys.

But the question is...would I have wanted too?

Bill Cunningham said...
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GM Doug said...

Ted Kord was a great fun character. So he stole some panties... did he wear them? No. (At least I hope not)

The reason so many Fan boys like me miss him is because Ted was like many of us - the ultimate grown up would be student. Smart and funny. Enjoyed a good laugh but could get serious (like a heart attack). Eat pizza and put on weight.

Ted represented everything many of us were/are. Which is why he's missed so much. I mean who can relate to Spider-man? Sure he's got loads of problems and baggage - but he's married to a red head supermodel with a boss who gives him tons of cool stuff! Many of us don't have the looks of Booster Gold or have billions in the bank like Bats.

But Ted was one of us.

That being said.

There was never a chance he'd score with Babs. And Helena, ANOTHER cast off from pretty boy Grayson? Please... lets face facts. Ted knew he'd only ever get a sniff of a chance with any of those girls. I'm betting he hoped Power Girl would show up a few more times and that babs would put in a good word for him. He couldn't hang out with the JSA that would be WAY too obvious and like trying to get in with the parents.

Anyway where was I ?

Ted is dead. He is missed.

And on earth 948716937991 there is a DC comics publisher who didn't kill off Ted and he's now that universe's top hero and dating Power Girl. And many fans write into DC to complain they should have killed him off years ago!

Oh and I would love someone to bring Ted back in the DCU for a ghost story for him to tell everyone "Heaven is great I've got me some lovin. I'm happy! So get over it!"

Cully Hamner said...

Yeah, but Oracle doesn't wear panties. She wears *diapers*...

Bill Cunningham said...

It 'Depends'...

Chalice In Ames said...

I ponder it, and I still cannot find any way that Ted Kord stealing the Birds of Prey's panties makes him any less cool.

Anyway, I expect the new Vertigo Blue Zombie title will rock hard.

Redjack said...

I hated that bastard Kord. Always with the jokes. Always with the hot chick on his arm. Always with the "OOOH, dig me. I've got a giant flying mechanical bug ship."

That shit gets old, man.

John Seavey said...

I'm not sure I'd say Ted Kord never actually existed. Sure, Ted Kord didn't exist as a biological entity, but...

Well, have you read 'The Blind Watchmaker'? In it, Richard Dawkins suggests that what we conventionally think of as "life"--ie, DNA with the capacity to self-replicate and reproduce itself--might have been, at some point, a component of another self-replicating entity that piggy-backed onto them until it learned how to do without the "ancestor" form so well that it could reproduce on its own.

He went on to suggest that ideas ("memes", as he termed them) and technology could, in a sense, be seen as the same thing, and could one day do the same thing. So in other words, Ted Kord was alive--he was a collection of concepts, living in our heads and extending his existence by making us write stories about him. He had no biological body, no DNA to replicate...but I think it could well be said that he's more than the sum of the stories written about him.

In that sense, yes, Ted Kord did exist. Hopefully, he'll exist again someday...after all, that's the nice thing about memes. They don't really die until they're forgotten. A bullet to the fictional head won't stop one. A single writer can't kill a meme, as luminaries such as Arthur Conan Doyle have learned.

But, of course, that's all a side note to your post, in which you just wanted to be clear that you didn't do it. That's no big surprise, given your previous discussions of DC's treatment of Silver Age icons. I certainly won't hold it against the new series. (Let me know when the first trade comes out, OK?)

Robot Porter said...

In a recent interview, Giffen said the death of fictional characters is easily fixed, and he offered something like this:

PANEL ONE: Ted Kord entering JLA HQ.

TED: Hey guys, what did I miss?

DecoderRing said...

As a fan of the old Blue Beetle radio show, can I just say that I miss Dan Garett too... but after a few decades, ya just gotta let it go....

But yeah... the odds of Ted having the good grace to stay dead aren't that good. Look at the number of guys in the DCU who have pulled monitor duty after pushing up daisies... I doubt he'll ever be Beetle again, but he'll show up somewhere... blown-out-brains notwithstanding....

Andrew Burton said...

Didn't he know that Stargirl's were going for sale on eBay?

Ted Kord's Ghost said...

[i]We did not kill Ted Kord. Ted did not die so they could introoduce a new Blue Beetle.[/i]

No, but you are the ones saying that the character is never coming back as long as you have anything to do with it, aren't you? Saying that it is 99% Ted Kord free as a selling point.

Ted Kord's Ghost said...

Also, I know he is probably just joking but if you can confirm it...Giffen was joking about killing cats, right? Keep in mind I work with animal shelters in the DC area, trying to keep cats alive and find them good homes.

Rogers said...

*sigh* The powers that be wish me to make it perfectly clear, that Ted Kord being a panty-sniffer is not part of official DCU canon. So don't look for it in the backup pages of 52

Oh, and Giffen may or may not be joking about killing cats. He frightens me. But we do know Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist used to adopt kittens from shelters to dissect. Which, frankly, is way, WAAAYYY more fucked up than whatever Keith had in mind.

People, people, I myself am a 39 year old man who shops for comics every day and has a DMG on my bookshelf. But we have got to lighten up a bit if we're to hang at the Kung Fu Monkey House.

Ted Kord's Ghost said...

I absolutely admit I am too sensitive when it comes to the cat thing. Right now I am trying working with a cat, trying to get her to a point where she can be adopted. Her previous owner tortured her and her sister (who did not survive). She is missing both her ears because they were burned off. :( That is why I am sensitive about the cat thing.

The blue beetle thing....yeah, I want my favorite character back but it is meant partly tongue in cheek. I will lighten up.

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