Thursday, February 08, 2007

Well Good for Them

Edwards washes their mouthes out with soap and keeps 'em. I'm "meh" on the response. Solid, but not a lot of fire in that belly. (Then again, there's a reason people like me don't run for office.) We're a year out -- if he's keeping his powder dry, I'll give him benefit of the doubt. And hell, maybe eight years as Clark's VP will season him.

Now call me nuts, but we may wish to drag public discourse over to the 11 soldiers who died in the last two days while the Senate jerked around on the Iraq vote. Or, for those of you who've done your counterinsurgency reading, why the sudden spate of helicopter shoot-downs is a very, very, very bad sign. Or, for the more economically minded, how this year will see record numbers of mortgage foreclosures. But hey, Billy Donahue, don't worry about working class people losing their homes. Like the poor were ever on Jesus' agenda.

59 comments:

Doc Nebula said...

Were you aware that just last month, the GOP tried to completely eliminate the minimum wage?

s'true.

http://mydd.com/story/2007/1/25/164258/077

That'll wash the taste of Chuck Hagel right out of y'r mouth, sonny jim.

Woodrow "asim" Jarvis Hill said...

Seconded, John.

I have a lot of respect for Edwards, overall -- starting his run in New Orleans says a lot about what he's aiming for. I felt like he was running for something, and not against, if you get my meaning. And now, that feeling's kinda drifted.
This is the sort of navel-gazing dreck that mired Gore and Kerry. Almost got Clinton, too, if Carville and Begala, bless their toein' the line souls, hadn't kicked him in the rump and told him to just keep runnin', and don't look back.

Hopefully someone in this running-for-Democratic-nomination crowd'll figure out that lesson.

Anonymous said...

Edwards caved. He accepts the premise of the extreme right jackasses entirely. He's just not brave enough to fire them.

What's next?

"I was a rich trial lawyer, but I wasn't one of the really bad ones."

"The insurgency was already emboldened when I changed my mind on the Iraq war."

"I hired offensive bloggers, and then didn't fire them, but I didn't mean to offend anyone and I can make decisions".

He's toast as a candidate.

Jennifer Ouellette said...

I'm with you on the "meh" reaction. Glad he kept them, but I'm disappointed in the milquetoast "official statements" -- clearly drafted by committee, and containing none of the personal voice and passionate fervor that make these two such excellent bloggers -- and his obvious distancing of himself from Melissa and Amanda.

If the political machine wants to exploit blogs, it's going to have to learn not to muzzle them and kill the very thing that makes blogs a powerful tool. I think this will prove a less-than-successful "experiment" -- not because of Edwards' choice of bloggers, but because the campaign is too stodgy and fearful of offending to come out firmly in support free speech.

I'm disappointed in Edwards...

Pooh said...

I Edwards response is exactly right. While part of me wants nothing more than a knock-down dragout with the Wingers, Edwards is essentially saying "piss off. Next question?"

Pooh said...

er "I think Edwards'"

Me fail English? Unpossible.

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nolo said...

There's nothing here to be disappointed about, and Edwards certainly didn't cave. He kept Amanda and Melissa while at the same time defusing the right wing nutjob's ability to use this issue any further.

Kevin Wolf said...

I'm disappointed in Edwards's "statement" too. But because he kept Amanda and Melissa on staff I'll cut him some slack and assume that he's choosing his battles.

But if he doesn't fight at some point, he won't survive the campaign.

Anonymous said...

Edwards completely legitimized the right-wing attack by agreeing with it's fundamental premise. He's trying to appease them by agreeing with their points.

So now he's up for six months of explaining why he doesn't just fire staff members who he finds personally offensive.

Anonymous said...

So now he's up for six months of explaining why he doesn't just fire staff members who he finds personally offensive.

There's a fresh, new outrage ready to plop out of the winger colon. I don't know what it is, but it's there. This one will be flushed by Monday. I garonteee it.

Xactiphyn said...

Silly boy, Obama is Clark's VP.

Been there, done that with Edwards in that slot -- didn't help.

Anonymous said...

Nice to see that I'm not the only one that would like to see a Clark/Edwards ticket.

Unfortunately, it never came to fruition in 2004 and I don't think 2008 is looking any more promising.

Peter L. Winkler said...

Why the enthusiasm for Wesley Clark? He couldn't win one Democratic primary in 2004. Why do you think he'll perform better among an even more crowded field this time?

Anonymous said...

Another great political post. I, too, think Senator Edwards would make a good VP for General Clark. Too bad Senator Kerry got in the way last time.

The religious right is wrong about most of their agenda. Jesus would kick ass and take names with those guys.

BadTux said...

Well, I don't think there's enthusiasm for Wesley Clark as much as there is LACK of enthusiasm for the so-called "front-runners". Even Obama, once you quit jizzing all over yourself because he mentioned that whole "vision" thing, is when you boil it right down to it cut right out of the same mold as Clinton and Eddwards. Like them, he has even said regarding Iran that a military strike against them is an option. Just what we need, another freakin' pro-war Democrat pandering to mouth breathers...

-BT

Anonymous said...

I was disappointed with the response as well. I want a candidate like a Hackett or a Webb who would actually return fire and point out what a bigoted creep Donohue is.

Maybe if everyone Donohue attacked responded by repeating a few of his own choice quotes, he might be a little more reluctant to make an ass of himself. Okay, probably not - but at least everyone would be repeatedly *reminded* of what an ass he is. It's not necessary that he *realize* that he's a laughingstock, just so long as he becomes one. And that goes for everyone else like him.

Anonymous said...

I think that the negative reactions of some people to what they see as Edwards' triangulating and/or flip-flopping are not seriously considering the notion that he means exactly what he says. Maybe he doesn't care for the way that those particular blog posts are written. (Disclaimer: I like Pandagon and Shakespeare's Sister, generally, but I don't agree 100% with what any blogger whom I follow writes, including Your Royal Monkeyness.) And he makes the important point, which seems to go whistling right over most people's heads, that Amanda and Melissa are working for him, not the other way around. Anyone working for a serious presidential contender, in almost any presidential campaign before this one, who had said something like what they wrote would have been out on their asses. Edwards is saying that, while he may not agree with what they say, or even dislike it, he's not going to kick them to the curb. People that want to see him put on his cleats and stomp all over Donohue and Malkin are also, I think, missing the implied snub of those self-important little toads.

I think that the net affect of this little affair will be to prepare Edwards for the nigh-inevitable swiftboating to come. The wingnut bloggers and their MSM allies are still trying to come to grips with the election results, and they're shooting their wads way too early.

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