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Folks dealing with them should understand that their racism and miscogeny aren't "personal", meaning that if they know you well, it doesn't matter that your a person of color, just that you could never be received as a guest in their house. Fine for you to wash the windows and diapers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-35673702919100519402009-06-14T00:16:17.956-07:002009-06-14T00:16:17.956-07:00The fact that it's harder to get into an ivy-l...The fact that it's harder to get into an ivy-league school than graduate from one actually works against Sotomayor. By her own admission she benefited from affirmative action and didn't have comparable scores on standardized tests to her classmates. But she's certain that the tests are culturally biased against her, so it balanced out. As someone who works in standardized test development, it gets a bit old to see allegedly open minded people operating from a a default or stubbornly held belief that the more sophisticated tests used as college entrance exams haven't had processes developed for decades to detect, account for, and reduce this. I can easily see why she'd irritate conservatives, her ruling on Ricci v. DeStefano confirmed the logically defective legal doctrine of disparate impact: if more minorities fail it than whites, it's legal proof of racism. In the meantime, psychometricians and test developers for years have quietly been studying how you actually tease out culturally biased questions, and accounting for them.<br /><br />In her defense, she is clearly intelligent and most of her rulings I have read about seem to reflect well on her to me. But between Ricci v. DeStefano and the repeated use of the "wise latina" comment she looks like she's got a great big blind spot that I don't want anywhere near the Supreme Court thank you. There are probably a lot of great candidates out there, but maybe not one with so much cache to people that get all excited by identity politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-51572086064995239902009-06-05T14:13:48.352-07:002009-06-05T14:13:48.352-07:00It just gets worse. Check out the June 22nd cover ...It just gets worse. Check out the June 22nd cover at http://nrd.nationalreview.com/<br /><br />(I'd direct image link but it's not allowed.)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00685767626875321321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-16165145222993133062009-06-05T01:59:25.832-07:002009-06-05T01:59:25.832-07:00I as I read it Pat Buchanan was trying to suggest ...I as I read it Pat Buchanan was trying to suggest she was reading children's books as part of her course work, as opposed to what she was actually doing which was improving her second language off her own bat. Which is laudible and a sign of a diligent perfectionist. Politics is the art of the sly innuendo that allows you say a lie without actually saying it.<br />As for jocks, my contemporaries on my Physics PhD at a middle rank UK university included a former professional soccer player, and an international swimmer. Some people do just have it all. They were good looking too (I am told). Swines.trail of breadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07404750750499578001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-74433688143762782572009-06-04T22:06:43.862-07:002009-06-04T22:06:43.862-07:00Firstly, though Harvard is one of THE hardest scho...Firstly, though Harvard is one of THE hardest schools to get into in the world, once your in, it can be a breeze. Harvard has grade inflation. Which means you don't really have to work hard to get a good GPA. Harvard wants all its students to do well. Many Ivys are like that. <br /><br />That said, Sotomoyer obviously has all the creds and more to do what she is doing. Who gives a shit that she learned from a children's book. Pat is just pissed he can't rule the world and that he can't speak two languages worth shit. And it truly is sad to see that so many people stand behind him. How can we tackle such important things like human rights and world hunger when racism, sexism, and poverty are at our own doorstep?<br /><br />And, yeah, the right wing would have torn down ANYONE Obama picked. UGGHHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-42491276978487753822009-06-04T19:56:09.243-07:002009-06-04T19:56:09.243-07:00Wrongshore:
I'm not racist, but that's ...Wrongshore: <br /><br />I'm not racist, but that's hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-78589582408070150272009-06-04T15:54:16.333-07:002009-06-04T15:54:16.333-07:00That's just not true. Sorry.
I thought we wer...<i>That's just not true. Sorry.<br /><br />I thought we were discussing matters of opinion, as opposed to factual statements regarding temperature. I don't consider people I disagree with to be "insane," as Anonymous puts it.<br /></i><br /><br />Mere agreement is necessary but hardly sufficient to form an echo chamber. Again, agreement on things that are not particularly controversial does not constitute an echo chamber. That includes objective facts and widely held opinions.<br /><br />Now, if you could point out the opinions or statements that could be controversial and why others could plausibly disgree with them, then you might have something. (Like, maybe, we all agreed abortion is solely the province of the woman, no ifs ands or buts [as opposed to total opposition as opposed to reserving it to when the fetus is not viable]).gwangunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00743626777447874196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-72846246306942932262009-06-04T14:15:10.023-07:002009-06-04T14:15:10.023-07:00>>>If you didn't get into Harvard, an...>>>If you didn't get into Harvard, and all the black and Hispanic Americans suddenly disappeared, odds are you would still not be getting into Harvard.<br /><br />Well the hell with Harvard then!<br /><br />Brilliant post, Rogers. Nice work.Mike Canehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12396654716615965650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-4329868995631600332009-06-04T14:06:40.250-07:002009-06-04T14:06:40.250-07:00"So, in order to admit athletes with low SATs..."So, in order to admit athletes with low SATs, the SAT and other requirements at state schools are set so that <i>many kids who should not be in college get admitted</i>, and without private tutoring they wash out" (emphasis mine). <br /><br />Wow.caseyssisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-67739507226748981662009-06-04T13:02:58.196-07:002009-06-04T13:02:58.196-07:00I thought we were discussing matters of opinion, a...<i>I thought we were discussing matters of opinion, as opposed to factual statements regarding temperature. I don't consider people I disagree with to be "insane," as Anonymous puts it.</i><br /><br />I don't consider disagreement proof of insanity either, but take a look at the GOP over the past eight years or so and take a look at their fan club. Do you really think history is going to look back on them and say, "Now there's a bunch of people who had their act together"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-11586641883808935822009-06-04T12:55:58.328-07:002009-06-04T12:55:58.328-07:00"And, to be fair, we need more Democrats who ..."And, to be fair, we need more Democrats who will openly admit that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid seem increasingly unfit to run a sidewalk lemonade stand."<br /><br />I wouldn't trust those two to make change for a quarter. Even when they're not on the wrong side of the issues, they're completely incompetent at managing the message.<br /><br />I think I first advocated Obey and Dodd for leadership when Obey was threatening to hold up war funding and Dodd was filibustering telecom immunity.Joe Helfrichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15851317082348875206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-76077492337045292772009-06-04T12:28:00.688-07:002009-06-04T12:28:00.688-07:00I really worry that our professional politicians h...I really worry that our professional politicians have lost the ability to see beyond party lines. We need more Republicans who are willing to look at Sotomayor's record and go, "Hey, she tries a lot of cases based carefully on the facts at hand, rather than any overriding ideology. And hey, bonus, she might bring a novel perspective to a court that interprets law for the benefit of all Americans. That sounds all right to me." <br /><br />And, to be fair, we need more Democrats who will openly admit that Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid seem increasingly unfit to run a sidewalk lemonade stand.Natohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13199868144674022165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-8869009433005997912009-06-04T09:50:05.331-07:002009-06-04T09:50:05.331-07:00TrentC: Awesome! I forgot about that one.
Anonym...TrentC: Awesome! I forgot about that one.<br /><br />Anonymous @ 1:44pm-- <i>I don't know that this makes for an "echo chamber", though: for an "echo chamber" to be recognizable as such, it requires a lot of people who believe things that no sane and informed person would on his own.</i><br /><br />I guess I always thought it simply meant a group of people who all agreed unanimously, reinforcing one another's beliefs. Maybe I've been misusing it this whole time.<br /><br />Gwangung-- <i> Bet you'd say this if all comments said it was hot in Death Valley. Intelligent comments. PLEASE.</i><br /><br />That's just not true. Sorry.<br /><br />I thought we were discussing matters of opinion, as opposed to factual statements regarding temperature. I don't consider people I disagree with to be "insane," as Anonymous puts it.<br /><br />This is al well off-topic, for which I apologize. This was a very well-written post, John, and I totally agree. (Yes, I am part of the echo chamber.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-38261054984947507042009-06-04T09:23:08.145-07:002009-06-04T09:23:08.145-07:00We live in a country where a 14 year old 6th gener...We live in a country where a 14 year old 6th generation citizen who speaks no Spanish and lives in a wealthy neighborhood and goes to a privleged school can be approached by a fellow classmate who backs her into a corner and demands to see her green card. <br /><br />Of course I reported it to the school authorities, the little shit got a three day suspension. This was back during the Proposition 187 bull, but I've had complete strangers approach me on the street and demand my green card, too. <br /><br />The funny thing, it all stopped when I moved to Oregon. They don't 'see' many Hispanic people here, so they're less likely to be able to pick out my Hispanic features and more likely to assume I'm part black. <br /><br />Apparently, there was a famous University of Oregon football player with a similar last name in the 1960s who was black, and my very, very pale skin is attributed to a mixed marriage.Mary Suehttp://eatdrinkandbemarysue.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-33549305870050770932009-06-04T07:59:37.744-07:002009-06-04T07:59:37.744-07:00My wife was an illegal immigrant at one time, and ...My wife was an illegal immigrant at one time, and after the amnesty of 1986, when she knew she could go to college, she spent all her spare time when she was working the desk at a Chinese restaurant to read vocabulary and grammar building books from SAT manuals to the NYT crossword. Being Chinese, her math was stellar ;-). You have to be motivated get proficient at a foreign language, and to criticize Sotomayor for that is ugly, stupid, and just plain petty. <br /><br />I read Russian children's books myself before living in the USSR in the late 80s. It not only builds vocabulary, grammar, and gives the rhythm of everyday speech, it provides a cultural background that adult language classes do not provide. We speak only Chinese to our kids at home, and I have a completely different vocabulary map in Chinese than in Russian - I could not name a single dinosaur in Russian, and I know most of the famous ones in Chinese.John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-67957441069607991742009-06-04T07:51:32.003-07:002009-06-04T07:51:32.003-07:00The school where I teach is full of kids whose par...The school where I teach is full of kids whose parents speak no English, and who very rarely read anything in any language. As a result, my students can speak English and write on a basic level, but their grammar is terrible because they are always trying to transpose the rules of Spanish.<br /><br />I do the best I can, but by the time they get to me my job is to teach them higher level thinking skills, not grammar. So many of my students - even the brightest ones - end up graduating without a strong grammar background.<br /><br />Sounds like Sotomayor was smart enough to realize her weakness and correct it. How many of us can say the same?Emily Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02163221455899041141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9380399.post-88580778714047935422009-06-04T07:11:46.698-07:002009-06-04T07:11:46.698-07:00While I agree with your post, you did get one thin...While I agree with your post, you did get one thing generally wrong:<br /><br /><i>If you think that any coach of the women's basketball team at any major university has the clout to grade pad, you're adorable.</i><br /><br />They don't have to pad directly, but they do it indirectly.<br /><br />I was a TA in a weed-out General Chemistry class in a Big East school. While the athletes were rarely at the top of the class, they rarely failed unless they really tried at it.<br /><br />The reason was that the Athletic Department provided tutors, some of whom sat in the damn class and took notes for the athlete in question. I never witnessed any grade padding, because the professors and TAs in the academic departments would have had an anaphylactic reaction and sprayed any attempt to coerce us all over the press. However, I was asked to give those tutors help by providing sample problems and other materials for cram sessions for the athletes who were doing poorly. I told them to kiss off.<br /><br />Those students who needed tutors to take notes for them never would have survived in college without the support of the Athletic Department, and they retained almost nothing from their classes.<br /><br />The other unfortunate side effect of athletic programs is the slide in admission standards - the standards for athletes have to be the same as the gen pop. So, in order to admit athletes with low SATs, the SAT and other requirements at state schools are set so that many kids who should not be in college get admitted, and without private tutoring they wash out. Washing them out quickly was the role of the huge (400+ student) Freshman-level weed-out classes that I TAed my first two years in the Ph.D. program.<br /><br />I don't want to slander all the athletes I had in my classes - I had divers and swimmers I specifically remember who were at the top of my classes, actually some of them should have been in the Honors program, and I told them so. <br /><br />It's also interesting to note that when I did teach the Honors sections a few years later, there were no athletes in any of my classes.John the Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03467337009577733553noreply@blogger.com